(09-04-2016 10:50 PM)nek Wrote: I'm in the Midwest for a bit but I'm still registered to vote in Virginia. Was thinking about getting my registration out here but Virginia looks like it's going to be close in Virginia, somewhat to my surprise, so I'll probably just go back there to vote. Not sure how/when Virginia became more democratic in its voting patterns.
Because the Obama administration has increased the size of Federal workers in DC by a huge amount. They vote Dem so they can keep their jobs.
True. It always saddened me to hear parents encouraging their children to aspire for gov't jobs. Our work culture has definitely changed.
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09-05-2016 12:03 AM
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(09-04-2016 01:49 PM)komatiite Wrote: What in the name of Fuck is this question:
I wish Dr Carson was more of a combative motherfucker, he could have lit up (((Wallace))) real bad for that loaded BS question.
And that's the 3rd and final debate moderator, ladies and gentlemen.
While I'm sure he'll keep things classier on the main debate stage (with 100 million plus people watching), just wait for bullshit inappropriate and/or gotcha questions...
Also: I know it was mentioned recently in the thread but I'm very surprised by the Virginia polls too. Wrote that state off as hopeless with the combination of demographic shifting and Tim Kaine on the Hillary ticket, yet suddenly there's polls showing it in the margin of error? That's certainly nice!
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(09-04-2016 01:49 PM)komatiite Wrote: What in the name of Fuck is this question:
I wish Dr Carson was more of a combative motherfucker, he could have lit up (((Wallace))) real bad for that loaded BS question.
And that's the 3rd and final debate moderator, ladies and gentlemen.
While I'm sure he'll keep things classier on the main debate stage (with 100 million plus people watching), just wait for bullshit inappropriate and/or gotcha questions...
Also: I know it was mentioned recently in the thread but I'm very surprised by the Virginia polls too. Wrote that state off as hopeless with the combination of demographic shifting and Tim Kaine on the Hillary ticket, yet suddenly there's polls showing it in the margin of error? That's certainly nice!
He's one of the fox crew who pretends to be non-partisan, and to an extent he does roast Clinton, be he most certainly cannot stand Trump. I've seen his show quite a few times and what gives it away, is his sulky reactions when someone proves him wrong on a certain fact.
The most recent one which springs to mind, is when he said Trump has been proven to discriminate against black people in his hotels. In that one segment, this host used a leftist strawman tactic, name calling, and also visibly sulked when he was corrected on his bs statement.
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Michigander here. It is most definitely in play. Many blue collar people here across all demographics who lost union auto jobs (60k plus benefits), now struggle in seasonal work or much lower wage manufacturing.
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09-05-2016 01:04 AM
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(09-04-2016 08:07 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: I was Googling how Pepe became associated with Mr. Trump, and it has everything to do with the You Can't Stump The Trump videos. Both that Trump Pepe and a link to the fourth episode of You Can't Stump The Trump were tweeted to Mr. Trump. When he retweeted it, that Pepe became permanently associated with him.
I like the mission statement of the Alt-Right, as well as our strategy of being either intellectually philosophical or trollingly demoralizing depending on who we're taking to. The only downside is that Mr. Trump can't officially endorse our demoralizing tactics.
We are his secret shock troops.
I have been watching news videos about the Alt-Right, one common theme you see in the people on the left and journalist is, they point out how tech savy and smart the Alt-Right is, how they are winning the cultural war, even Time Magazine had a cover about it:
The left is used to deal people on the right who only listen to radio, and maybe some hours of Fox News, not people with knowledge to track Hillary's handler identity to the point to force her to disappear him, or knowing what a meme is, the left has never deal with the other side in the same battlefield, they have dominated online since always, they simple do not know what to do with people who outperform them at what they believe to good.
A person like Milo or Lauren Southern hit the left in America in different ways the left did not expect, both are young, Milo is gay European and Southern is Canadian, we all know how the left price Europe and Canada as epitome f hat America should be, having people from these countries and supporting Trump, gun rights etc.
I've always thought that the biggest reason why the left has been so successful with the cultural war and resonates so much with millennials isn't with the much maligned "leftist Marxist college professors" but because of people like Stephen Colbert and John Stewart as well as other "cool" celebs, cultural figures, and media. I'm sure Colbert has done more to turn the country left then all of the gender studies classes in colleges. The very reason why now see a bit of a resurgence of right wing ideas (though of course very different from the neo-con Moral Majority conservativism of the 80s and 90s) is now the right finally has figures like Milo and Gavin. For the first time in forever, right wingers are in the position of being the scrappy, rebellious counter-culture street fighters, a position that the left has traditionally occupied and which has allowed them to control the minds of the young.
Articles like that are just a buttering-up for the eventual introduction of mass internet censorship (not just on Facebook/Twitter and in news portals' comments like it is now). They will definitely take concrete steps in the next two years.
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There needs to be some "thread-out" feature, whereby the mod can tick all the budding off-thread posts, seal them from replies, and push a copy of them to a new thread.
09-05-2016 01:40 AM
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(09-04-2016 08:07 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: I was Googling how Pepe became associated with Mr. Trump, and it has everything to do with the You Can't Stump The Trump videos. Both that Trump Pepe and a link to the fourth episode of You Can't Stump The Trump were tweeted to Mr. Trump. When he retweeted it, that Pepe became permanently associated with him.
I like the mission statement of the Alt-Right, as well as our strategy of being either intellectually philosophical or trollingly demoralizing depending on who we're taking to. The only downside is that Mr. Trump can't officially endorse our demoralizing tactics.
We are his secret shock troops.
I have been watching news videos about the Alt-Right, one common theme you see in the people on the left and journalist is, they point out how tech savy and smart the Alt-Right is, how they are winning the cultural war, even Time Magazine had a cover about it:
The left is used to deal people on the right who only listen to radio, and maybe some hours of Fox News, not people with knowledge to track Hillary's handler identity to the point to force her to disappear him, or knowing what a meme is, the left has never deal with the other side in the same battlefield, they have dominated online since always, they simple do not know what to do with people who outperform them at what they believe to good.
A person like Milo or Lauren Southern hit the left in America in different ways the left did not expect, both are young, Milo is gay European and Southern is Canadian, we all know how the left price Europe and Canada as epitome f hat America should be, having people from these countries and supporting Trump, gun rights etc.
I've always thought that the biggest reason why the left has been so successful with the cultural war and resonates so much with millennials isn't with the much maligned "leftist Marxist college professors" but because of people like Stephen Colbert and John Stewart as well as other "cool" celebs, cultural figures, and media. I'm sure Colbert has done more to turn the country left then all of the gender studies classes in colleges. The very reason why now see a bit of a resurgence of right wing ideas (though of course very different from the neo-con Moral Majority conservativism of the 80s and 90s) is now the right finally has figures like Milo and Gavin. For the first time in forever, right wingers are in the position of being the scrappy, rebellious counter-culture street fighters, a position that the left has traditionally occupied and which has allowed them to control the minds of the young.
Disagree. The reason the left has been so successful in the culture war is that they have used unconventional warfare aka fighting dirty, while the right has maintained the "high ground". The right has fallen for it hook, line, and sinker but with the rise of the alt-right (and all its iterations), fire is being fought with fire. Its akin to conventional maneuver units (cuckservatives) fighting a guerrilla force (transnational socialists, aka tranzies) and losing until special forces (alt-right) starts giving them the business in their sanctuaries.
Edit: Added quote tree to maintain context.
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(09-05-2016 01:27 AM)Wutang Wrote: I've always thought that the biggest reason why the left has been so successful with the cultural war and resonates so much with millennials isn't with the much maligned "leftist Marxist college professors" but because of people like Stephen Colbert and John Stewart as well as other "cool" celebs, cultural figures, and media. I'm sure Colbert has done more to turn the country left then all of the gender studies classes in colleges. The very reason why now see a bit of a resurgence of right wing ideas (though of course very different from the neo-con Moral Majority conservativism of the 80s and 90s) is now the right finally has figures like Milo and Gavin. For the first time in forever, right wingers are in the position of being the scrappy, rebellious counter-culture street fighters, a position that the left has traditionally occupied and which has allowed them to control the minds of the young.
The hypocrisy of those guys, is that as political humor shows, what is more humorous than a woman who pretends she doesn't know that 'c' stands for classified? Than mailing a fucking laptop? Than smashing a whole bunch of blackberries with a hammer, because that's just what you do??
The kids who 'revere' these leftist comedians, show just how little critical thinking they actually have by failing to question the fact that said comedians are essentially using them to shill propaganda.
Most of them were Bernie babies, jumping on his anti-establishment hype train, yet they're so mind numbingly dense that they buy into the very thing they are against... If Colbert can turn them left, then their minds have to be so under developed that something has gone really, really, wrong prior to them even watching an episode.
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I have tried it. But my medical and scientific training has removed the narcissm required to say, "Since it's good for me, it must be good for everyone."
And my depth of thinking makes me immune to arguments that ask, "Why should we prohibit people from taking substances that don't cause obvious harm to themselves, or others?"
" What does that tell us about drugs? That adults should be able to make informed decisions about what substances they choose to put in their body."
True, provided they pay for any negative effects that their drug use causes. But the majority of drug users are not socially responsible enough to do such a thing, and many of them aren't wealthy enough to do so.
The best line in the article that Ghost Tiger posted asserted that drug users are self-absorbed. Your reasoning is definitely self-absorbed (since no one's needs but the drug user's is considered). And so is the collective anti-scientific viewpoint that pro drug people take.
Geeze son, go look in a mirror. This post is the epitome of self absorbed and a logical fallacy to boot!
Went to bed and now got my bit in. Trump at you!
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09-05-2016 02:59 AM
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We are 3 weeks away from the first debate on Monday, September 26th.
I get so overwhelmed with excitement every time I think about it. To see Trump rip apart Hillary on live television.... I look like this every time I think about it:
I'm afraid Hillary will try to weasel out of the debates. She's playing the run out the clock strategy the best she can.
Even with the biased moderators, Trump gonna destroy that evil wretch.
I wonder if they will let her sit down during the debates. I don't think she could make it through. Also a decent chance she short circuits on stage if there are actually 3 debates.
(09-05-2016 01:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: Articles like that are just a buttering-up for the eventual introduction of mass internet censorship (not just on Facebook/Twitter and in news portals' comments like it is now). They will definitely take concrete steps in the next two years.
That screenshot someone posted about O2 in Britain blocking RooshV website on their wi-fi hotposts was a very disturbing warning, of what type of totalitarian-style censorship are they preparing soon. If internet culture is a major challenge to them - they will block access of undesirables. Simple, cruel and effective.
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09-05-2016 06:19 AM
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(09-05-2016 01:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: Articles like that are just a buttering-up for the eventual introduction of mass internet censorship (not just on Facebook/Twitter and in news portals' comments like it is now). They will definitely take concrete steps in the next two years.
That screenshot someone posted about O2 in Britain blocking RooshV website on their wi-fi hotposts was a very disturbing warning, of what type of totalitarian-style censorship are they preparing soon. If internet culture is a major challenge to them - they will block access of undesirables. Simple, cruel and effective.
It would be interesting. Targeting a few select websites / addresses is easy enough.
Yet as the torrent crowd have demonstrated. Censorship methods are just as easy to circumvent.
All the while, 'they' have never shutdown the entire torrent crowd in one hit.
Quick question. With the various polls, are they only polling those who turned out to vote for the last election, or is it a cross section of everyone?
If it's the former, this could be a landslide, because anyone above the 55% [or there abouts] who turns out to vote, will be virtually 100% Trump.
09-05-2016 06:46 AM
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(09-05-2016 01:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: Articles like that are just a buttering-up for the eventual introduction of mass internet censorship (not just on Facebook/Twitter and in news portals' comments like it is now). They will definitely take concrete steps in the next two years.
That screenshot someone posted about O2 in Britain blocking RooshV website on their wi-fi hotposts was a very disturbing warning, of what type of totalitarian-style censorship are they preparing soon. If internet culture is a major challenge to them - they will block access of undesirables. Simple, cruel and effective.
It would be interesting. Targeting a few select websites / addresses is easy enough.
Yet as the torrent crowd have demonstrated. Censorship methods are just as easy to circumvent.
All the while, 'they' have never shutdown the entire torrent crowd in one hit.
Yes, but the effect is to isolate normies from our content, who barely bother with even simpler technological tasks. Yet, when exposed, they can "suck in" our narrative just as well as the establishment narrative.
(09-05-2016 01:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: Articles like that are just a buttering-up for the eventual introduction of mass internet censorship (not just on Facebook/Twitter and in news portals' comments like it is now). They will definitely take concrete steps in the next two years.
That screenshot someone posted about O2 in Britain blocking RooshV website on their wi-fi hotposts was a very disturbing warning, of what type of totalitarian-style censorship are they preparing soon. If internet culture is a major challenge to them - they will block access of undesirables. Simple, cruel and effective.
It would be interesting. Targeting a few select websites / addresses is easy enough.
Yet as the torrent crowd have demonstrated. Censorship methods are just as easy to circumvent.
All the while, 'they' have never shutdown the entire torrent crowd in one hit.
Yes, but the effect is to isolate normies from our content, who barely bother with even simpler technological tasks. Yet, when exposed, they can "suck in" our narrative just as well as the establishment narrative.
The question is can they keep themselves from getting "greedy" with censorship. If you block a few sites, no one cares. However, if you start mass shut downs like many Arab Spring countries did, you get the whole population angry at you. Essentially, for most people, "You can have my LOLcats when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!"
I would have thought the western left would have be sophisticated enough to be able to do this, but after seeing the DNC leak I'm not so sure.
09-05-2016 08:03 AM
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(09-05-2016 08:05 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote: If Hillary dropped out, would Kaine have a better chance?
I don't think it would be possible for Kaine to run as president since the ticket would be Pres: Hillary VP: Kaine.
All of the state's deadlines for having a name on a ballot have passed.
Such an event would throw the entire democratic party into complete disarray. We'd probably see the party collapse and coalesce around a different one.
09-05-2016 08:33 AM
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(09-05-2016 08:05 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote: If Hillary dropped out, would Kaine have a better chance?
I don't think it would be possible for Kaine to run as president since the ticket would be Pres: Hillary VP: Kaine.
All of the state's deadlines for having a name on a ballot have passed.
Such an event would throw the entire democratic party into complete disarray. We'd probably see the party collapse and coalesce around a different one.
Knowing the Democrats and their Republican allies, if Hillary were to drop out and as you say, Kaine is only the VP and not the POTUS candidate, would it be in their bests interests for the Supreme court and/or Obama to stop or at least slow down the voting process?
The Republicans get their way with Trump and the Dems get a better candidate in.
I'd put more money on Hillary being a dogged bitch who would let the earth burn, before giving up 'her chance' at POTUS.
As opposed to any potential drop out.
Only a complete physical incapacity would convince Hillary (& the Soros / Rothschild apparatus) to give up.
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