(03-07-2016 03:27 PM)Roosh Wrote: Foreign diplomats voicing alarm to U.S. officials about Trump
Quote:Foreign diplomats are expressing alarm to U.S. government officials about what they say are inflammatory and insulting public statements by Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, according to senior U.S. officials.
Officials from Europe, the Middle East, Latin America and Asia have complained in recent private conversations, mostly about the xenophobic nature of Trump's statements, said three U.S. officials, who all declined to be identified.
"As the (Trump) rhetoric has continued, and in some cases amped up, so, too, have concerns by certain leaders around the world," said one of the officials.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-el...EC37O1O8W3
Quote:This suggests that the shift probably wasn't a function of Ted Cruz's (clearly strong) get-out-the-vote effort. Field efforts like that result in relatively limited swings, and it's hard to see how they could have run a hugely successful turnout effort throughout the state uniformly.
Instead, this looks like the state of Louisiana bailed on Marco Rubio in favor of Ted Cruz.
(03-07-2016 03:27 PM)Roosh Wrote: Foreign diplomats voicing alarm to U.S. officials about Trump
Quote:Foreign diplomats are expressing alarm to U.S. government officials about what they say are inflammatory and insulting public statements by Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, according to senior U.S. officials.
Officials from Europe, the Middle East, Latin America and Asia have complained in recent private conversations, mostly about the xenophobic nature of Trump's statements, said three U.S. officials, who all declined to be identified.
"As the (Trump) rhetoric has continued, and in some cases amped up, so, too, have concerns by certain leaders around the world," said one of the officials.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-el...EC37O1O8W3
(03-07-2016 11:42 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote: To be fair to the American education system, the countries ahead of the United States on the attainment list do not have to deal with student bodies that are composed 40% of low achieving minorities. You make 40% of the students in Japan or Finland black and hispanic and see what happens to their vaunted performance metrics.
(03-07-2016 04:08 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote: I'd argue that 60% of American college students don't deserve to be there.
(03-07-2016 04:08 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:(03-07-2016 11:42 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote: To be fair to the American education system, the countries ahead of the United States on the attainment list do not have to deal with student bodies that are composed 40% of low achieving minorities. You make 40% of the students in Japan or Finland black and hispanic and see what happens to their vaunted performance metrics.
There is some truth to that.
But the American school system is still bad compared to other developed nations. Minored in Mathematics & used to be a TA for a College Algebra class at a 92 % white school my junior year.. Grading the papers was just SAD. 80% of the class was failing and the Professor has to curve the grades.
There are millions of college students throughout the country who can't do a simple algebraic simultaneous linear equations like this.
2x + y = 10
3y - 2 = 10 Find the value of x and y.
I learned that shit back home in 6th grade. Calculus was an option in 9th and mandatory by 10th grade. In almost no other country can someone even graduate highschool, let alone get into college without being able to do that. Basic algebra should not be a college class. Period! Outside of the Northeast and Mid-atlantic, it's also shocking how little Americans know or care about the rest of the world.
I'd argue that 60% of American college students don't deserve to be there.
Hope Trump cuts federal student loans so that Universities are forced to drop their outrageous tuition prices. Plus no more loans for non-productive degrees.
(03-07-2016 04:08 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:(03-07-2016 11:42 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote: To be fair to the American education system, the countries ahead of the United States on the attainment list do not have to deal with student bodies that are composed 40% of low achieving minorities. You make 40% of the students in Japan or Finland black and hispanic and see what happens to their vaunted performance metrics.
There is some truth to that.
But the American school system is still bad compared to other developed nations. Minored in Mathematics & used to be a TA for a College Algebra class at a 92 % white school my junior year.. Grading the papers was just SAD. 80% of the class was failing and the Professor has to curve the grades.
There are millions of college students throughout the country who can't do a simple algebraic simultaneous linear equations like this.
2x + y = 10
3y - 2 = 10 Find the value of x and y.
I learned that shit back home in 6th grade. Calculus was an option in 9th and mandatory by 10th grade. In almost no other country can someone even graduate highschool, let alone get into college without being able to do that. Basic algebra should not be a college class. Period! Outside of the New England and the Mid-atlantic, it's also shocking how little Americans know or care about the rest of the world.
I'd argue that 60% of American college students don't deserve to be there.
Which is why I am pro Common Core. You can't have evangelical nut jobs and dumb and slutty 25 year old female teachers set the standards as to what students are learning. Setting up nationwide British system style GCE A-level and O-level exams is absolutely necessary if America wants to compete in the 21st century.
Also hope Trump cuts federal student loans so that Universities are forced to drop their outrageous tuition prices. Plus no more loans for non-productive degrees.

(03-07-2016 05:13 PM)Wutang Wrote: I don't remember the details but I remember hearing about the German educational system and how basically by the time you hit high school there it's already determined if you are going to be on the track to a 4 year university education or if you're gonna be instead heading to a vocational school of some sort. German members please chime in with more details. Contrast this to American students many of which who go to university without even knowing what they are going to be majoring in. What this tells me is that a lot of middle to upper class American kids head to university just because it's what you're "supposed" to do if you are a member of that socioeconomic class. I know that was the case for me.
(03-07-2016 05:03 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote: However, America uses the universities as the sieve so they are much harder and more rigorous than their foreign counterparts, which is why more than half of the students drop out and why only 30% of Americans hold a degree...
(03-07-2016 03:16 PM)storm Wrote: Trump's wall reminds me of Napoleon's continental system.
I read in Napoleon's biography that ultimately the CS had the effect of increasing industrialization in France. However I am not able to find any sources for it. Wikipedia claims the opposite, citing rope sales.
Can someone chime in? Did the CS help French industry?
(03-07-2016 04:29 PM)General Mayhem Wrote: Sometimes I wonder why he doesn't start going after Cruz since Rubio can't win anywhere. Then I remember how I wondered the same thing with Jeb!
(03-07-2016 05:03 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote: When Trump becomes president and starts looking over the DoE, I think he is going to realize how utterly worthless it is and how it only exists so that the politicians are appearing to solve a problem that doesn't actually exist, and that gutting it almost in its entirety will solve lots of the spending problems.
This may sound strange, but there is nothing wrong with the American education system. The differences you see are the results stemming from one of the huge cultural differences between America and essentially the rest of the world, which is the notion that failure should be tolerated and sometimes encouraged to bring success.
In most other countries, the school and education system start working as a sieve on the children very early in life (around kindergarten/grade school for Asian countries, slightly later for European countries), and start sending kids onto different tracks based on the sieve. For example in Japan, kids start taking entrance exams for middle school and high school, which essentially dictates their life from thereon out.
American culture simply won't allow for a system where an early failure in life essentially dictates fate. Thus, in America, the universities behave as the sieve for the American populous instead of the earlier schools, and children are allowed to screw up as much as they want in the earlier schools until they find their successes. There is a reason why almost all of the top universities in the world are American universities. In other countries, once you make it to university, the system knows that you went through the early sieve process and are thus much less rigorous and behave essentially as a stopgap between high school and employment. However, America uses the universities as the sieve so they are much harder and more rigorous than their foreign counterparts, which is why more than half of the students drop out and why only 30% of Americans hold a degree.
The results that you see when they compare test scores between American kids and the other kids are because those foreign kids are the product of the sieving system, and the rest are somewhat hidden from view or sent on a vocational track where they don't need to be counted as heavily. In America, it encompasses everybody. Which is also why the gap between Americans and their foreign counterparts essentially disappears around the university time.
The American education system is actually part of the reason why America is so prosperous. Because failure is tolerated so widely, it creates overly optimistic people who aren't afraid of failure and thus try to shoot for the stars. Even when they get smacked down in industry or schooling, they immediately bounce back and come for more, or try something else. There is no floor to how badly you can fall in America, but there is no ceiling as to how high you can go either. Whereas, if you fail in industry or schooling in a place like Singapore or Japan or Germany, you have a ceiling set on you for essentially forever.
(03-07-2016 05:41 PM)ElJefe Wrote: The Trump message on Chinese taking away US jobs is really stupid. American consumers took away US jobs when competition increased. If you can't win a competition when you have to compete, do you think not running the race is going to get you into better shape? The answer is unequivocally no.
Quote:When I look at the data, it’s clear to me that if I entered the race, I could not win.
(03-07-2016 05:41 PM)username Wrote:(03-07-2016 04:29 PM)General Mayhem Wrote: Sometimes I wonder why he doesn't start going after Cruz since Rubio can't win anywhere. Then I remember how I wondered the same thing with Jeb!
Not going after Lying Ted will be Trump's down fall. Rubio is pretty much dead and most of his voters are shifting to Cruz. Trump needs to show voters that Cruz is a terrible choice and nab those Rubio voters before they get to Cruz.
(03-07-2016 06:05 PM)Enigma Wrote:I agree or maybe we stop the boats and the Chinese junk with a 300% tariff and do the same to Mexico and Canada real fast you'll watch them open factories here real, real fast.(03-07-2016 05:41 PM)ElJefe Wrote: The Trump message on Chinese taking away US jobs is really stupid. American consumers took away US jobs when competition increased. If you can't win a competition when you have to compete, do you think not running the race is going to get you into better shape? The answer is unequivocally no.
What's really stupid is trying to compete directly with a country that doesn't play by the same rules and where the standard of living for the average factory worker is atrocious.
(03-07-2016 06:05 PM)Enigma Wrote:(03-07-2016 05:41 PM)ElJefe Wrote: The Trump message on Chinese taking away US jobs is really stupid. American consumers took away US jobs when competition increased. If you can't win a competition when you have to compete, do you think not running the race is going to get you into better shape? The answer is unequivocally no.
What's really stupid is trying to compete directly with a country that doesn't play by the same rules and where the standard of living for the average factory worker is atrocious.
(03-07-2016 05:41 PM)ElJefe Wrote:(03-07-2016 03:16 PM)storm Wrote: Trump's wall reminds me of Napoleon's continental system.
I read in Napoleon's biography that ultimately the CS had the effect of increasing industrialization in France. However I am not able to find any sources for it. Wikipedia claims the opposite, citing rope sales.
Can someone chime in? Did the CS help French industry?
Maybe, but only at the expense of European consumers.
The Trump message on Chinese taking away US jobs is really stupid. American consumers took away US jobs when competition increased. If you can't win a competition when you have to compete, do you think not running the race is going to get you into better shape? The answer is unequivocally no.
The real problem is that when a factory closes, those jobs disappear, and generating new jobs becomes difficult, because whereas a factory job was something anyone could do, the new economy pays big dividends for brains, but not much else. In effect, the global supply of cheap labor is virtually unlimited, and the breaking down of trade barriers and the triump of free market capitalism has lifted billions out of poverty. This has come at the cost of a massive increase in competition against American workers, especially lesser educated ones.
US manufacturing is higher than ever, but the NUMBER of jobs is down. Those jobs are gone anyway, as manufacturing becomes increasingly efficient and automated. That's no argument to speed up the process though.
The policy question is: how do we prevent the destruction and collapse of American communities as jobs are created and destroyed at increasingly fast rates, when the rewards to cognitive ability are higher than ever?
Bernie Sanders and Trump's answers are unimaginative and predicated on a totally false understanding of economics. I will vote for Trump on the immigration issue alone, but on this matter he is just wrong.
