(03-03-2016 11:10 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  The thing is, Rubio's statements made more logical sense.

But people don't decide based on logic. They decide based off feelings.

In that regard Rubio came off like the try-hard beta you always see hanging out at clubs wearing a Tapout shirt.

I was not making these statements based on logic.

I was making them based off the negative feelings associated with a con man.

There's some evidence to suggest that the Trump U attacks had some effect on closing the polls in some cases on Super Tuesday, and now major Rubot donors are gearing up their SuperPAC to have a barrage of negative ads for the next two weeks before the 15th.

It wasn't good. Will it be enough? I don't think so, but it wasn't good. Trump lost the exchange. No way he could have won.

I liked the comments about Trump made about being flexible and how it plays into his deal-maker persona but that's not what's going to be talked about tomorrow. Trump's frame crumbled tonight and his campaign depends a lot on him portraying strength and dominance. Maybe it won't be too bad since he did lose the first state of the primary but his frame recovered from that.

   

O'Reilly didn't like Trump criticizing him. That stung him.

Who caught Trump after the debate telling Bill O'Reilly "I don't know, ask your psychiatrist" when asked why he thinks Bill became negative on him.

(03-03-2016 11:10 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  In the general elections I'll either be doing Colorado or Virginia.

Both swing states. If the situation seems dire I'll vote Trump.

Stop the groupthink and admit he got stumped today. I love him as a businessman and as a person but the only reason he was my guy is because i want to see liberals in excruciating pain come November.

Otherwise it's either Rand Paul, someone from the Libertarian Party or Virgil Good Jr/ of the Constitution party.

No more Trump worshiping from me!

Trump lost your respect by claiming Trump University is a success, which is not even provably false, yet you still respect Rand after his months of petty comments and going against his own principles. Makes sense.

Rubio a strong last place in every poll

Perfect finish tonight.

President Trump tells O Reilly "You should ask your Psychiatrist"

(03-03-2016 11:13 PM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  

(03-03-2016 11:10 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  In the general elections I'll either be doing Colorado or Virginia.

Both swing states. If the situation seems dire I'll vote Trump.

Stop the groupthink and admit he got stumped today. I love him as a businessman and as a person but the only reason he was my guy is because i want to see liberals in excruciating pain.

Otherwise it's either Rand Paul, someone from the Libertarian Party or Virgil Good Jr/ of the Constitution party.

No more Trump worshiping from me!

I don't know anyone who could stand up to hours of character attacks and lies from every direction and keep their cool.

Even watching from the safety of my home on a television screen I could feel myself get emotionally worked up. I think he did get stumped tonight but with such a long campaign it was bound to happen at some point. What really matters is how he rebounds from that. It's like being a championship boxer it's not about keeping that 0 at the end of your record it's what you do after that 0 turns into a 1. Trump's had other hard times such as when some of his firms went bankrupt but he recovered and came back stronger then ever.

Kasich's hard on for starting WW3 with Russia is a nonstarter for me, completely invalidates anything else he talks about.

Also Rubio and Cruz revealed themselves as typical politicians at the end there. Spent 2 hours talking about what a con man Trump is, yet they say they'll support him at the end.

Also this Kayleigh girl on CNN is pretty good, definite WB.

Rubio is done. Men watching him tonight saw a preening high school dork trying to talk tough to guys who are his obvious superiors in the art. Women saw a posturing, closeted tryhard who can't take command of a conversation.

I remain mystified as to what the hell the Republicans were thinking even flirting with the idea of rallying to this ponce.

(03-03-2016 11:17 PM)TheThinker Wrote:  Who caught Trump after the debate telling Bill O'Reilly "I don't know, ask your psychiatrist" when asked why he thinks Bill became negative on him.

Roger that. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Palpable hit.

I feel like the last 2 debates have been Trump's worst two debates, which is disappointing to me b/c I felt that prior to these past 2 he'd been showing remarkable improvement.

I am also surprised that the moderators were so tough with him - I had been fairly certain from reading the tea leaves that Fox News may have signed off on Trump being the nomineee.

Objectively speaking, religious zealot and weirdo Ted Cruz crushed it tonight. Glad to see that Trump still dominating the Drudge poll per normal and hoping that not so many people feel the way that I do about how tonight went.

Kasich did grow on me tonite

I think I've been wrong about him

(03-03-2016 11:10 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  In the general elections I'll either be doing Colorado or Virginia.

Both swing states. If the situation seems dire I'll vote Trump.

Stop the groupthink and admit he got stumped today. I love him as a businessman and as a person but the only reason he was my guy is because i want to see liberals in excruciating pain come November.

Otherwise it's either Rand Paul, someone from the Libertarian Party or Virgil Good Jr/ of the Constitution party.

No more Trump worshiping from me!

That is fine but let me just tell you that if you learned anything new tonight then you were only blindly following Trump and never really knew anything about him in the first place.

In the future if you stand behind somebody I suggest you have an idea of there strengths and weaknesses as well as their past and projected future.

Remember that the later part of the primaries has states that heavily favors Rubio so if there's one good thing about this debate is that he seemed so list-less and despondent and it was mostly Cruz doing the savaging. Cruz isn't going to be able to win anything outside the evangelical states many of which have already had their primaries. Kasich doing good too also helps out Trump since it just further makes the establishment second guess about going all in on Rubio.

Rubio is doing terrible in the debate polls and Kasich is competing with or defeating Cruz. That is odd.

Of course Donald is killing it but mainly because of the type of support he has.

(03-03-2016 11:15 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I was not making these statements based on logic.

I was making them based off the negative feelings associated with a con man.

There's some evidence to suggest that the Trump U attacks had some effect on closing the polls in some cases on Super Tuesday, and now major Rubot donors are gearing up their SuperPAC to have a barrage of negative ads for the next two weeks before the 15th.

It wasn't good. Will it be enough? I don't think so, but it wasn't good. Trump lost the exchange. No way he could have won.

A look at the headlines:



What people get from the headlines is Trump's opponents are ganging up on him. That's what they are going to remember. His opponents drown themselves own with thousands of accusations thrown at Trump. Maybe people will vaguely remember something bad was said about Trump university, but most of them are not going to pay attention to the details, they are not going to research it. At this point, people are just going to see the Trump university thing as "oh well, just another line of attack from his opponents'. Trump's refusal to admit it was actually a failure may actually be good. If he said "I admit it was a failure, ok', that statement is so out of character that it is going to sink into people's mind more than anything his opponents said about him.

(03-03-2016 11:05 PM)greekgod Wrote:  If Trump could just own some negatives like TU, it would take the steam out of their traps. Acknowledge and move on.

His campaign is based on unabashed honesty. People forgive mistakes but by failing to acknowledge it, he lets them continue henpecking. His base is strong as shit. He has to start capturing the more "principled" albeit misguided conservatives.

They need to start planning for the rug being pulled out from underneath him.

Strategy is there, tactics need more focus.

I totally agree with this - Trump University is shady as shit and will be a goldmine in the general election for Hillary. I realize that Trump hates "losing" and I know there is a suit pending but I wish he could distance himself from that dumpster fire.

Trump University's last rating was a D- in 2010 because that's when he changed the name, it had a higher rating afterwards but wasn't named "Trump University" anymore.

Kelly is such a weaselly cunt.

Debate highlights in a nutshell:

*The Donald told everyone he has a big penis in answer to little Marco.
*Cruz ate some booger off his lip that now has it's own Twitter account.
*Rubio sweat like a piglet and laughed at his own jokes while popping yet another mystery pill.
*MeGYN Kelly’s fake eyelashes will soon have their own zip code.
*Faux debaters prepared an entire PowerPoint/video attack on Trump and Trump alone, because moderating is just too damn boring.
*Kasich triggered the onset of narcolepsy in a number of unsuspecting viewers who tried to listen to him.

Good night Donald Trump and sleep well. After a day of relentless attacks, you deserve it.

(03-04-2016 03:53 PM)zeitgenosse Wrote:  What does Forummembers think about this?

Clinton and Trump - a big show ..

Hans Kolpak assumes that Trump is just a puppet, who hast the function to help Clinton to become president. If he becomes candidate, Clinton will win, because he will behave so extreme, that majority won't elect him. In the article are some disturbing facts, which show that the Trump and Clinton families are not so much in hate as the make one believe.

http://www.dzig.de/Clinton-und-Trump-Per...ierte-Show

This was an interesting theory - six months ago.

(03-04-2016 03:56 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  ... he's trying to bring technological manufacturing jobs back to America.

A very goog idea, but do you think that works. Will American people do the hard work Chinese slaves are doing for very small money for us western decadent people?

(03-04-2016 04:26 PM)zeitgenosse Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 03:56 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  ... he's trying to bring technological manufacturing jobs back to America.

A very goog idea, but do you think that works. Will American people do the hard work Chinese slaves are doing for very small money for us western decadent people?

Yes, because the companies will be forced to pay more. Liberals will weep when they have to pay more for iPhones and ethnic food. Too fucking bad.

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This was an interesting theory - six months ago.
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OK. But I would much more like to know, what do think about it?