(03-04-2019 03:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 03:29 PM)Sherman Wrote:  We are being played like a violin.

"Trump Touts Legal Immigration System for ‘Our Corporations’ at Expense of American Workers"

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...porations/

No, Trump wants legal immigration for the people who can pay for themselves.

He wants less immigration of people who can't pay for themselves.

Trump sees H1-B as somewhat falling into the people who can pay for themselves camp.

While far from ideal, Trump's position is far less destruction than the Democrat's or GOPe position.

I remember Trump having people at his campaign rallies who talked about being layed off by foreign workers. So, is doing an about face on this. The interests of corporations "trump" the citizens.

(03-04-2019 08:31 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 03:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 03:29 PM)Sherman Wrote:  We are being played like a violin.

"Trump Touts Legal Immigration System for ‘Our Corporations’ at Expense of American Workers"

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...porations/

No, Trump wants legal immigration for the people who can pay for themselves.

He wants less immigration of people who can't pay for themselves.

Trump sees H1-B as somewhat falling into the people who can pay for themselves camp.

While far from ideal, Trump's position is far less destruction than the Democrat's or GOPe position.

I remember Trump having people at his campaign rallies who talked about being layed off by foreign workers. So, is doing an about face on this. The interests of corporations "trump" the citizens.

I think youre conflating loss of jobs due to corporate relocation of manufacturing /operations overseas, (for example) , and being replaced by immigrants

If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

NeverTrumpers and REEEsisters are trying to gaslight us on the Russian hoax and dossier. Back pedaling like fuck.

The Mueller report must be coming out soon, and of course will exonerate Trump on collusion.

Here’s this National Review cuck , never trump puke David French.

No one is buying his gaslighting.

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 08:31 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 03:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 03:29 PM)Sherman Wrote:  We are being played like a violin.

"Trump Touts Legal Immigration System for ‘Our Corporations’ at Expense of American Workers"

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...porations/

No, Trump wants legal immigration for the people who can pay for themselves.

He wants less immigration of people who can't pay for themselves.

Trump sees H1-B as somewhat falling into the people who can pay for themselves camp.

While far from ideal, Trump's position is far less destruction than the Democrat's or GOPe position.

I remember Trump having people at his campaign rallies who talked about being layed off by foreign workers. So, is doing an about face on this. The interests of corporations "trump" the citizens.

I think youre conflating loss of jobs due to corporate relocation of manufacturing /operations overseas, (for example) , and being replaced by immigrants

If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

No, I am talking about high skill workers being replace by H1B visa recipients.

(03-04-2019 11:07 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 08:31 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 03:33 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 03:29 PM)Sherman Wrote:  We are being played like a violin.

"Trump Touts Legal Immigration System for ‘Our Corporations’ at Expense of American Workers"

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...porations/

No, Trump wants legal immigration for the people who can pay for themselves.

He wants less immigration of people who can't pay for themselves.

Trump sees H1-B as somewhat falling into the people who can pay for themselves camp.

While far from ideal, Trump's position is far less destruction than the Democrat's or GOPe position.

I remember Trump having people at his campaign rallies who talked about being layed off by foreign workers. So, is doing an about face on this. The interests of corporations "trump" the citizens.

I think youre conflating loss of jobs due to corporate relocation of manufacturing /operations overseas, (for example) , and being replaced by immigrants

If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

No, I am talking about high skill workers being replace by H1B visa recipients.

Yeah, the equation is pay half for someone who is slightly better than half as good. Hard to compete with third world scrubs working for pennies unless you are a higher level worker in your field (and I would hope forum members are trying to be the best at whatever they are doing but not every America has the necessary IQ etc)

(03-03-2019 09:11 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Quote:This is why I have said I wish Trump would just pull the pin now and do a peaceful break-up of America while we still have leverage and the numbers somewhat on our side. But fat chance that happening. Maybe we'll get a real deal guy in 2024 who will do what REALLY needs to be done (i.e. martial law and/or peaceful break-up of America). Not counting on it though.

But you know what?

I'd rather just walk away if it's all going to go to shit so bad. Life is too short and the entire world will likely not be in total chaos. America might spend decades in decline but that doesn't mean other places aren't going to be on the upswing. The Founding Fathers didn't try to reform the UK, they left and started anew elsewhere. Maybe instead of trying to reform from within the rot, do what the Founding Fathers did and find a better foundation for your ideal country.

Usually, it's better to retreat and regroup than go down with the ship.

Exactly where to?

Australia is worse. Europe is being literally overrun by hostile Middle Eastern "refugees" resulting in a wave of violent crime. South America is collapsing wholesale as socialist regimes run out of steam and go broke. Africa is in a state where politicians are openly calling for white genocide.

Asia isn't great either:

China is getting steadily worse for non-Chinese. Most of the other Asian states are great if you're in a tourist-friendly "pussy paradise" and considerably less friendly to Westerners who try to integrate with the economy.

Exactly where are you going to go?

Japan
Singapore
South Korea
Czech Republic
Hungary
Thailand
Vietnam

A few notes:

1. These are just candidates as of 2019. They all have flaws and trade-offs. Circumstances and conditions can always change. China might have been pretty decent for westerners in the 2000's but it's really going to shit now for them as you point out. Can easily happen or already be happening with my above candidates.

2. I have no intention of just leaving at the first sign of trouble. Things have to get very bad with no real path out for me to even consider it. That means, if the libtards get their super majority and go nuts AND there is no real fight in a decent amount of the country to burn things down and rebuild, it might be worth ejecting.

Samseau clearly has the fire, many people on this forum have it, but will enough people have crossed the rubicon in-time to unfuck things and rebuild? The demographic trends along with the prevalence of many self-hating white people doesn't bode well for any sort of conflict or war; at least a war where we realistically win.

Best case is maybe getting a low-population state or group of states like Wyoming that is very deep red/pro-Trump 2016 politics, has natural resources, tons of land, no/minimal income taxes, pro-business policies, is fiscally in good shape, and is leading the charge on cryptocurrency banking regulations/laws and having a great migration of MAGA people push to have it become its own country. Peaceful separation.

The idea that places like California and many blue/purple states can be saved is pretty far-fetched in my view. It would take a red pilling on a massive scale to save those places. Samseau thinks a global economic collapse will cause this in a sense; I'm not as convince that will be the case. Many places in Latin America have economic crises every decade or so and they don't transform into great societies; they just repeat the cycle, become total dumps, and/or stay being relative shitholes with tiny pockets of first world living.

Guess what?

All those people from Latin America are here now (along with other low quality immigrants), are breeding like rats, and they are largely bringing the worst of Latin America with them. Unless you deport them all and strip their kids of voting rights at a minimum, the only other option is a genocide. Aside from the obvious ethical issues, you'd be trying to do a genocide from a weaken position where the democrats have a super majority at the federal level and within most states, many states would be majority-minority and/or anti-MAGA, and one wrong-think crime could destroy your professional/personal life and result in having your money seized/stolen. I don't mind a good fight but I'm not interested in a suicide mission.

3. If we get America 2.0 in some form or fashion once the dust settles, I'd like to see this new state or state(s) take the best of places like Japan and Singapore and combine it with the best aspects of America 1.0. Or just the best aspects of America 1.0. If I see a path towards something like that, that's worth fighting for. But if people are going to fight for basically a christian theocracy for example (again, just an example... there are other forms of government I don't support), I don't have any interest in that. The point being, its not just about whether a significant amount of people have a willingness to fight or the feasibility of winning... but what the majority is fighting for ultimately.

4. If I had it my way, Trump would declare martial law TODAY and kick out every goddamn illegal immigrant and arrest every elected official who has created a sanctuary city/county/state and put them up on charges of treason for supporting a foreign invasion force. I dare say, I would almost support summary executions per the current penalty for said criminal act unless they agreed to a plea deal to never enter politics again (after some time in prison) and then go fuck right on off eating frozen burritos. A message needs to be sent that is loud and clear: you don't sell out your own citizens.

But I doubt a significant amount of the population has the stomach for that.

Bottom line:

Trump ran on a anti-immigration platform and did fuck all for two years with a technical majority. Obama got Obamacare done when his political capital was at its highest shortly after getting elected. We got tax cuts for multi-national corporations so they could do stock buybacks and failed healthcare reform. Some wins and potential wins on trade and some big wins on judges. But on the BIG ONE - immigration - Fuck. All. Nothing. Scraps at best. We have a shit mini-immigration bill and a Congress that is close to fucking him over on the national emergency declaration. A few more GOPe senators and it's game over on that front.

Some say Trump has to work with the GOPe and he can't go against them. Then or now.

I say he should call out every anti-MAGA traitor, deprived them of all GOP monies/support, fervently support MAGA primary candidates, and burn the house down if needed. Michelle Malkin seems capable of doing it; why can't Trump, especially after how hardcore the GOPe has fucked him over?

At least instead of getting punts and half-measures on key MAGA agenda items, we could finally shed a BIG light on the rot within the GOP ranks that no one could ignore anymore. And THEN if people still continued to vote in the rot after having no more excuses in being oblivious to their respective GOPe reps/senators anti-MAGA ways, at least I would know that it's probably worth abandoning ship.

Quote:No, I am talking about high skill workers being replace by H1B visa recipients.

Right, the concern is that a Silicon Valley company will hire an Indian to bring in engineers from India to save a few bucks(or few million). The Indian hires 5000 of his cousins, none of them have training in coding or engineering as they were all working at call centers, they will get some training when they get to Silicon Valley.

Instead of hiring American Engineers or coders, we are saddled with another 5000 IRTs in Silicon Valley and all of them have h1b visas and none of them are leaving.

We have been doing this for decades now. We are not getting the best and the brightest, for the most part, when we hire abroad. Sometimes sure.

Samseau,

Quote:It's not about the GOP. It's about the right men getting experience in the political system so the right moves can be made when the time comes.

It's totally possible that the GOP will die someday. In such a case, the next party formed will see old GOP party infrastructure as valuable in helping to form the new party, and you will be able to control its policies and structure.

I don't know if getting a ton of experience, especially federal oriented political experience, within a broken and corrupt system is really worthwhile; certainly not worth dedicating years of your life to. Some exposure, sure... but not worth wasting significant time on. Time and energy is a finite resource.

I think the better strategy is to focus on a few very strong MAGA oriented states that act as foundations (Wyoming, Tennessee, West Virginia, etc) and direct the majority of energy on local/state positions. Take over the GOP AND the democrats in those states.

From there, set things up for a peaceful separation from the United States. Consider a union with a few other states that follow the same baseline MAGA agenda.

Quote:I know the states will take a big hit. The point is, they can afford to take the hit.

I agree California would blow up fast without the Feds. But even California is downright rosy compared to the Federal Government's situation.

No, many states cannot afford a violent dissolution of the federal government and the union. They can barely keep the lights on as is. A peaceful separation of even the most fiscally healthy states, that didn't result in massive strife and economic turmoil for said sates, would be a ambitious objective alone.

Violent end of the federal gov't? Total chaos in vast majority of the country. Irrecoverable damage across the board.

Quote:No phone numbers. But mass e-mail campaigns are still better than calling with an unknown number and getting ignored. We should have gotten at least a few volunteers.

Too bad about no numbers; that's terrible marketing/documentation people on a epic scale. I disagree in concept that mass e-mail is better than calling people with regards to the specific objective you had: gain local volunteers. But oh well.

Quote:All I can say is that I personally spoke with many dozens of people who said they didn't vote in midterms, or they only would vote for Trump, etc. Many were demoralized, and if a Republican volunteer spoke with them there is a good chance they would have voted.

People may not realize it, but having someone stop by your house to offer a "survey" and then end up with a chat about politics is actually quite a morale booster if you are a smart and smooth talker. I've fetched hundreds of votes. The district I worked in, for example, went solid Republican.

Watching the Kavanaugh hearings is one thing. But having a person come up to your door, and ask, "Do you support Judge Kavanaugh?" forces that person to stop and think. If there is even the slightest positive response you build on it - "I don't think there is a case against Kavanaugh," and then the volunteer chimes in, "Yeah, no evidence and they try to destroy him. How can our country be coming to this?" You can be sure the voter now has positive reinforcement that he has a duty to vote and stop the madness. Small pushes create big ripples in normally apathetic voters minds.

The biggest challenge is getting people to work together, to understand that people care about their vote, and not to abandon the fight. And the best way to do this isn't by being a cheesy politician, but a real guy who can speak bluntly yet "P.C." enough not to get fired. I find morale the biggest issue. Voters know right from wrong, but feel hopeless and despondent even though it's the worst possible move they could make.

That said, I fully understand people are stupid and must learn the hard way, which is why of course the Dems will get back into power, the people will rally again with another Republican victory, then get demoralized, etc. The hard way is also why the country is going to go bankrupt, because people actually believe debt doesn't matter. It's like saying getting drunk every day doesn't matter.

Agree with the effectiveness in door-to-door selling in cases like this and I appreciate someone like yourself willing to do it. It's not easy and anyone that says otherwise is full of shit.

Unfortunately and you allude to this, people are stupid and the fact that many people need a door to door pep talk when something like the Kavanaugh witch hunt is occurring mere weeks before the midterms IS the problem in my view. Too ignorant and too lazy to make even a basic effort. Tactically to win voters, you HAVE to do this in the current paradigm. But I'm done trying to save those that aren't willing to save themselves. It's a hard lesson to learn in life but you can't save everybody and frankly, everybody isn't worth saving.

If I had it my way, I'd go to one of those top MAGA states I mentioned earlier, take over the state with MAGA people, get my own country via peaceful secession, and tell that lazy fucker when he wants to emigrate 10 years later to MAGA-Land: NOPE. Fuck off. You're lack of attention to detail is what fucked up the once great USA. You pissed away the golden goose and you can rot in Hell for it.

Quote:I agree, although Trump got sabotaged. Remember the "Make America Great Again" website he created after his election victory, and people could submit resumes for his administration?

Well, Cernovich reported back when it happened, around March 2016 I believe, that during the transition period someone from Trump's inner circle "lost" the data on the website. So all the tens of thousands of applications from patriots around the country was completely deleted by a malicious actor, and Trump was left with hiring from his inner circle.

Who knows who could have done it? But if it was Kushner, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Trump's presidency obviously has someone within his inner circle constantly fucking everything up, and Kushner seems to be a big constant. This isn't to say that Steve Bannon was good at his job though.

Interesting story about the data lost but Trump didn't get "sabotaged" exactly here.

He is a multi-billionaire real estate developer/celebrity, knows TONS of smart/competent people, could afford to buy the best talent in the world if he doesn't know them, is completely unburdened to traditional political money traps/obligations, has been an executive since he was in his 20s... and look at the inner circle he chose to surround himself with and what they have done. Who is gone and who remains.

That's ALL Trump.

He can't choose the GOPe in Congress but he can choose his inner circle; the people he delegates down to to carry out the MAGA agenda, protect him, and give him honest advice.

That's all him.

If Roosh made NASA TEST PILOT a forum moderator for instance, before the ban but during that phase when people were questioning his integrity, there would have been a revolt. Rightfully so. And the forum membership would have likely seen a massive decline if Roosh didn't reverse course. RVF would have died probably. Great leaders still need great lieutenants to carry out the agenda. A bad LT can do A LOT of damage.

So if Trump makes Kushner his right hand man though, it's just a "mistake" and I shouldn't make a big fuss about it. But Kushner is going to Kushner. It is Trump who I place 100% blame on. That's not sabotage from external forces (that we know of at least - I'm not going down the Kushner real estate blackhole here), that's Trump taking a gun to the MAGA agenda and pulling the trigger himself via poor personnel management and selection.

Quote:Moreover, the idea that I'm blaming people or looking forward to carnage is just projection on your part. I never "blamed" anyone, nor do I want our wealthy world to die, I'm straight up telling you that people who want to survive and not get tax raped will be voting Republican. There will be very strong political forces in play helping Republican low-taxes look attractive, just as we see Howard Schultz try to run as an independent to stop Socialism from spreading further inside the Dem party.

That's why it makes sense to help ride this trend, uncuck the Republican party by rising through the ranks, and perhaps have a shot at creating a worthwhile country.

I might have misinterpreted your perspective and I do apologize if that is the case.

Anyhow, GOP and low taxes might look attractive to a small class of people. It always does.

It will not look attractive to the increasing amount of folks being made obsolete due to automation/AI/tech advancements and are not seeing a cut on that growth however. This is already happening and will continue to get worse over the next several decades. There is no indication that lower taxes will fix this. Broke people generally don't care about low taxes. You're selling 20th century solutions to 21st century problems.

If I'm joining any GOP organization, I'm doing it at the state/local level as a uniform effort with many others to ultimately break that state away from the United States. That strategy, for me at least, potentially makes some sense under certain conditions.

In the end, I had hope Trump would do what it takes to save the United States. But he can't or won't do it as of now from the looks of it. He had the mandate. He had a technical majority to work from within. He had the momentum. He had the drive and zero fucks attitude to actually get it done. And the window of opportunity has come and gone.

Could he still pull it off? Sure. But I'm not optimistic.

Will we get another GOP President of the MAGA variety? You say so but I have serious doubts about that given the demographics, the trends within the electoral college, and the big push for a simple majority vote on the presidency gaining steam in libtard states.

As I said in my last post regarding immigration:

All those people from Latin America are here now (along with other low quality immigrants), are breeding like rats, and they are largely bringing the worst of Latin America with them. Unless you deport them all and strip their kids of voting rights at a minimum, the only other option is a genocide. Aside from the obvious ethical issues, you'd be trying to do a genocide from a weaken position where the democrats have a super majority at the federal level and within most states, many states would be majority-minority and/or anti-MAGA, and one wrong-think crime could destroy your professional/personal life and result in having your money seized/stolen. I don't mind a good fight but I'm not interested in a suicide mission.

If Trump can't turn the tide, the focus should probably shift to salvaging the true MAGA crew of the USA and funneling them into a handful of states that are good foundations to becoming a MAGA independent state and/or union. That's a huge operation to pull off alone.

That all said: Trump is still President so it's not over for the old USA. I hope he does turn it around. But I really believe that laying the groundwork for some sort of peaceful separation/secession is warranted now; especially so if you don't see yourself ejecting to another country for whatever reason. I much rather be negotiating a peaceful separation for New MAGA-Land with a resigned but accepting President Trump in 2023 as oppose to President Harris/Warren/Libtard in 2024; who will no doubt be a world class pain in the ass to deal with.

Before Trump won in 2016 secessionist rumblings were pretty loud and they've started to pick up again only two years into his presidency. Texas, Louisiana and Utah IINM have passed laws recognizing precious metals as legal tender which is one of the first and most important steps in breaking away from the union.

At some point the federal debt-bucks heading into those states are going to be surpassed by the federal taxes going back in the other direction and those states are going to finally ask what DC actually has to offer except a steady supply of wetbacks and other assorted shitizens from the world's many shitholes. By that stage you won't need to worry about going abroad to rescue Venezuela. America will be Venezuela.

TBK has his head on straight. Demographics have politics wrapped up tight in any democracy. Even if you managed to win a few elections in the next couple of decades what difference would it make? Your Republican reps take their orders from Israel.

As per USAToday.

Quote:WASHINGTON – Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has made it clear to President Donald Trump that he has a choice: Move ahead with his declaration of a national emergency at the southern border and face a potential rebuke from his own party – or shift gears.

McConnell acknowledged Monday the Senate is likely to pass a resolution to block Trump’s emergency declaration.

In France they're rioting, ostensibly having been finally pushed over the edge by something as trivial as fuel prices.

Meanwhile the representatives Red America elected to solve their border crisis are standing in direct opposition to the President that was elected for the same purpose. Is DC burning? Nope.

Americans have spent two years watching the men they voted for systematically fuck them, either on behalf of their grotesquely wealthy donors or Israel or in many cases (((both at the same time))). There's no indication that that will change in ten years or twenty. The Jews want all white nations wiped out and they wont stop until they've achieved it so you can vote for whoever you like, but Shlomo will buy whatever outcome is for sale. This is no longer some kind of kooky conspiracy theory. The Trump election has put this fuckery under spotlights on center stage, as plain as the nose on everyone's face. If they wanted to make it explicitly clear that voting was irrelevant then I'm not sure what they'd be doing differently. Maybe it will take for McConnell to fellate Soros on the steps of congress before people finally wake up. Maybe even that wouldn't get the message across.

I've got nothing against Samseau but it seems like he's been huffing the fumes in DC a little too long and he's gone native. Can't see the forest for the trees, as they say.

I really hope heritage America manages to break away and salvage some of what made the US such a great nation before the globalists tax the whites into total childlessness and use the windfall to import every degenerate parasitic tribe from across the world that they can convince to come wipe whitey out.

(03-04-2019 01:53 AM)Samseau Wrote:  ...Trump got sabotaged. Remember the "Make America Great Again" website he created after his election victory, and people could submit resumes for his administration?

Well, Cernovich reported back when it happened, around March 2016 I believe, that during the transition period someone from Trump's inner circle "lost" the data on the website. So all the tens of thousands of applications from patriots around the country was completely deleted by a malicious actor, and Trump was left with hiring from his inner circle.

Oh my, poor Trump... he was sabotaged and couldn't possibly hire anyone decent



Lets be clear: if Trump were serious at all, someone should have been dumped into a Supermax prison over this. That's not some tiny procedural issue, it's a major national security incident.

What's next, "someone from Trump's inner circle" inexplicably losing the bills the President is about to sign? Deleting the security arrangements for a peace summit? Misplacing the nuclear codes?

Please go get a job at any company, be it a small family enterprise or a global corporation, delete their website and let me know how it goes. Not only would you be found instantly, you'd be fired and sued for millions, that is assuming the enraged business owner didn't pummel you to death first.

I can go back on my computer to find the contents of my cache from a week ago, and a team of elite website administrators supported by professional data centers somehow can't retrieve a bunch of server logs? Seriously?

Worst case, what about simply repeating the call for applications?

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

What's next, learn how to code?

If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you you're doing "having a country" wrong.

So (((Nadler))) The hideous mini Jabba the Hut of NYC has decided to proactively impeach Trump but slowly and under the veil of "Congressional Oversight" because the scope of Mueller's investigation was too narrow... therefore he has given 81 Trump Admins, Associates, Family and Campaign members 2 weeks to produce reams of docs at their own expense under threat of subpoena.

https://www.infowars.com/trump-slams-sto...xpedition/

This is a dangerous wild goose chase to invent process crimes across the spectrum of these 81+ individuals to remove any competent campaign support staff for Trump in 2020.

This is clearly Politically motivated Harassment of a sitting US President. Mueller is under pressure to wrap up his fishing expedition very soon under the new AG (Likely had his budget clipped back significantly so many of the pork gobblers on his witch hunt team have moved on to greener pastures).

Radical Leftist Attacks require radical proactive solutions... fight Fire with Fire.

As soon as Mueller's investigation is complete and his findings submitted to the new highly experienced GOP AG. Trump should immediately innoculate all 81 persons plus Manafort, Flynn, Roger Stoner, Dr. Corsi et.al., by issuing mass comprehensive federal Proactive Presidential Pardons including himself his wife and his Kids to protect them from years of leftist progressive communist anti-capitalist persecution. He should as he is doing now declare that he cooperates with "everyone" and then use stealth executive privilege to stonewall and stall all of these investigations (Redact Everything under National Security Concerns like Mueller and the FBI and DoJ do regularly). Investigations predicated upon the Cohen Testimony that Orange Man is bad even though it is clear Michael Cohen is desperate to cooperate in order to get imprisoned in a (((White Collar Criminal))) friendly Club Fed where he can see his wife and kids and plan the rest of his life and how he plans to feed and provide for his family now that he has been disbarred from the legal fixer profession.

Cohen is the one Rat Trump should never Pardon as the damage he has done has opened the door to Nadler's and the Demoncrat Deep State Progressive Red Chinese Communist death by 1,000 cuts attacks on Trump and by extension the USA.

Trump needs to issue a secret National Security investigation into the ownership of all MSM, Media Studios (Hollywood) and Major Social Media outlets and proceed to strong Anti-Trust breakups which will swamp the swamp media in endless investigations, discovery and disclosure of real ownership (Chinese Red Communists and CPUSA Stalwarts) who are trying o overthrow the US Constitution and implement Bernie/AOC Green New Steal Chaos across the USA.

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

Serious question PattayaTapper, do you believe that anyone can do what you have done if they just apply themselves?

Because I don't believe that for a second. Let me tell you about Northern Europe, the Netherlands and Scandinavia in particular. They've had a goal to eradicate poverty and bring education to the masses for 100 years. Literally, it's been the goal that everyone should be educated, for 100 years.

There are still many, many people in those countries who are not smart enough to code or run their own business.

It's because they are born like that.

Genetics.

(03-05-2019 10:41 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

Serious question PattayaTapper, do you believe that anyone can do what you have done if they just apply themselves?

Because I don't believe that for a second. Let me tell you about Northern Europe, the Netherlands and Scandinavia in particular. They've had a goal to eradicate poverty and bring education to the masses for 100 years. Literally, it's been the goal that everyone should be educated, for 100 years.

There are still many, many people in those countries who are not smart enough to code or run their own business.

It's because they are born like that.

Genetics.

No. I dont. But that's the point of America. It was founded on the concept of "rugged individualism" and its greatness was achieved through the collective result of those individuals that:

1. Worked hard,
2. Took risks
3. Persevered when shit got hard.

Equal rights and equal opportunity. That's America's promise. Always has been.

Equality of outcome has NEVER been "guaranteed".

I'm not looking for government to solve my problems. All I really need is for it to stay out of my way (in the broadest sense).

(03-05-2019 11:15 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 10:41 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

Serious question PattayaTapper, do you believe that anyone can do what you have done if they just apply themselves?

Because I don't believe that for a second. Let me tell you about Northern Europe, the Netherlands and Scandinavia in particular. They've had a goal to eradicate poverty and bring education to the masses for 100 years. Literally, it's been the goal that everyone should be educated, for 100 years.

There are still many, many people in those countries who are not smart enough to code or run their own business.

It's because they are born like that.

Genetics.

No. I dont. But that's the point of America. It was founded on the concept of "rugged individualism" and its greatness was achieved through the collective result of those individuals that:

1. Worked hard,
2. Took risks
3. Persevered when shit got hard.

Equal rights and equal opportunity. That's America's promise. Always has been.

Equality of outcome has NEVER been "guaranteed".

I'm not looking for government to solve my problems. All I really need is for it to stay out of my way (in the broadest sense).

I'm just trying to understand you on a personal level. Why you feel no sense of shared destiny with your lesser brothers.

I don't like low class whites either to be honest. I think their destruction has been city living and entertainment. I can deal with rural low class whites just fine. Low class urban whites, definitely not.

Maybe it's because I know those rural whites, that I know low class, underachieving people are not just annoying losers, just out of their habitat.

(03-05-2019 11:15 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 10:41 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

Serious question PattayaTapper, do you believe that anyone can do what you have done if they just apply themselves?

Because I don't believe that for a second. Let me tell you about Northern Europe, the Netherlands and Scandinavia in particular. They've had a goal to eradicate poverty and bring education to the masses for 100 years. Literally, it's been the goal that everyone should be educated, for 100 years.

There are still many, many people in those countries who are not smart enough to code or run their own business.

It's because they are born like that.

Genetics.

No. I dont. But that's the point of America. It was founded on the concept of "rugged individualism" and its greatness was achieved through the collective result of those individuals that:

1. Worked hard,
2. Took risks
3. Persevered when shit got hard.

Equal rights and equal opportunity. That's America's promise. Always has been.

Equality of outcome has NEVER been "guaranteed".

I'm not looking for government to solve my problems. All I really need is for it to stay out of my way (in the broadest sense).

That America has been dead since the early to mid 1900s. Today's America is even more socialist and less capitalist than even Scandinavian countries.

What irritates me is this Muslim bitch who joined ISIS, had a child with a terrorist, openely advocated murdering Americans, and now she is trying to get into the United States so the taxpayers can pay for her spawn. In an interview, she was told that Trump didn't want her in the US and she said that he should study the law, she has a right to enter. The arrogance is just over the top. They openly lecture the President of the United States and taunt him because they know the leftist judicial system has more power than the president. If she would have mouthed off like that to a Roman magistrate, she would have been put on a cross the next morning. I'm tired of the niceness. Fuck nice guys.

(03-05-2019 11:15 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 10:41 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

Serious question PattayaTapper, do you believe that anyone can do what you have done if they just apply themselves?

Because I don't believe that for a second. Let me tell you about Northern Europe, the Netherlands and Scandinavia in particular. They've had a goal to eradicate poverty and bring education to the masses for 100 years. Literally, it's been the goal that everyone should be educated, for 100 years.

There are still many, many people in those countries who are not smart enough to code or run their own business.

It's because they are born like that.

Genetics.

No. I dont. But that's the point of America. It was founded on the concept of "rugged individualism" and its greatness was achieved through the collective result of those individuals that:

1. Worked hard,
2. Took risks
3. Persevered when shit got hard.

Equal rights and equal opportunity. That's America's promise. Always has been.

Equality of outcome has NEVER been "guaranteed".

I'm not looking for government to solve my problems. All I really need is for it to stay out of my way (in the broadest sense).

The problem is that those values are part and parcel of the Anglo-saxon Protestant Christian work ethic. This more libertarian value driven self-determination will be gone with a big POOF when Hondurans and Somalis are in your country - it will crumble as if never been there. And at that moment it won't matter whether they can compete for your job.

(03-05-2019 07:54 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 09:05 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a Honduran or Somali immigrant can come in and supplant you...youre doing "career" wrong,,,whatever it is

What's next, learn how to code?

If youre digging ditches or mowing lawns then yes, Id say learning to code would be a step in the right direction.

However being in a position to hire coders for your equity benefit would be immensely better

(03-05-2019 12:15 PM)Sherman Wrote:  What irritates me is this Muslim bitch who joined ISIS, had a child with a terrorist, openely advocated murdering Americans, and now she is trying to get into the United States so the taxpayers can pay for her spawn. In an interview, she was told that Trump didn't want her in the US and she said that he should study the law, she has a right to enter. The arrogance is just over the top. They openly lecture the President of the United States and taunt him because they know the leftist judicial system has more power than the president. If she would have mouthed off like that to a Roman magistrate, she would have been put on a cross the next morning. I'm tired of the niceness. Fuck nice guys.

They should let her back home alright. Back home so she can be arrested the second she steps off the plane, her kid put into CPS, and she gets federally charged with aiding and abetting terrorism. She can be put into a Supermax for all I care.

TravelerKai I don't want the terrorists son being raised on welfare.

(03-05-2019 03:56 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  They should let her back home alright. Back home so she can be arrested the second she steps off the plane, her kid put into CPS, and she gets federally charged with aiding and abetting terrorism. She can be put into a Supermax for all I care.

This costs money, best to leave her out of the country therefore costing ZERO dollars.