(11-20-2018 11:10 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 09:53 AM)Sherman Wrote:  Federal judge halts Trump asylum ban

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/2...an-1005767

Expected. They don't call it the 9th circus for nothing. They went judge shopping and got the result they wanted.

Needs to be taken to the Supreme Court immediately. This is precisely why the left fought so hard against Kavanaugh.

The problem is that the Department of Justice would have to file the lawsuit. So far, I haven't seen any evidence that Trump has any control over the Department of Justice. I won't believe it until I see criminal charges against at least one of the elites.

The DOJ should file by the end of the week.

My expectations are for the SCOTUS to require guidelines to resolve the problem because indefinite suspension of asylum requests likely is not constitutional. Very familiar to the judgements on the Muslim country ban. It has to be temporary with working procedures to resolve.

(11-20-2018 03:12 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 01:05 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  @ms224 "For that kind of money why don't we just buy Mexico and make it civilized?"

Why buy it when it is begging to be taken over and saved for much less... Simple Plan; wipe out the Narco-Terrorists, reinstate Christian/Catholic morality less the little Boy Butt Buggering by HomoFag pedophile priests, and reestablish freedom and democracy with a NorAm Peace Keeping Contingent focusing on birth control and economic stabilization Making All the Americas Great Again.
...

You can't stop illiterate, unarmed Hondurans from climbing your national fence.

Your military is not yours to command. It will go where elites tell it to go and do what the elites tell it to do.

Still bombing Syrians and Iraqis while dropping supplies and trainers in to prop up ISIS, aren't you?

At what point are you going to accept that either Trump is on the take or he's powerless to command this juggernaut you think is going to save the day?

Leonard I normally have respect for your Down Under point of View but WTF Mate???

This is the most Anti-American-Troops shite I ever read:

Still bombing Syrians and Iraqis while dropping supplies and trainers in to prop up ISIS, aren't you?

You clearly do not understand how American fighting men are trained and what we believe... I have many younger lads in my circle of veterans who are combat vets that fought against the radical Islamists who are invading your Country, the EU and attempting with ((((Soros et.al. NGOs)))) funding to pollute the USA.

Not one of them would consider training the enemy ever - we have long tradition of not following illegal or immoral "war crime" orders - in the fog of war mistakes happen but accusing the US Military of Supplying and Training ISIS is far beyond the pale and hateful towards Veterans who have served with Honor and I call total Bull Shite on this statement... General McMaster a CFR 3 Star demanded that Trump put 150K troops on the ground in Syria and Trump heroically resisted getting mired down in another complete Middle East Arabic quagmire... preferring special forces and drones to keep ISIS on the run while avoiding nuclear war with Russia over a shitehole country.

Would MI6, the FSB(Modern KGM) or even the CIA be involved in arming the Enemy? If ISIS Sunnis were beheading Persian Hamas and Hezbollah fighters perhaps - yet most of the ISIS atrocities were against Westerners and Muslim Young Girls who refused to become ISIS wives (sex slaves). So even the intelligence agencies have their moral limits.

Barrack Hussein Obama and Crooked Hillary basically ignored the ISIS Takeover of the Iraq and Syrian Oil Fields and subsequent Oil sales by Tanker Truck Convoys to the Turkish Pipelines for massive cash flows and subsequent surrender/compliance of the Iraq Army with the seizure of their (US) Armored Vehicles, Tanks and Humvees. Thus the wild idea fake news that the USA supplied and trained ISIS when it was the Iraqi Army surrender monkeys under Barry Hussein Obozo - an individual with plenty of Political Skulduggery experience but NO Military Competency who fired all of our competent Conservative (Republican leaning) Generals and Admirals and tried to create a Politically Correct Socially Engineered pro-TransFag proFeminist Military.

This has been completely reversed under Trump with orders to hunt down and terminate ISIS wherever they may scatter and try to hide. ISIS is no longer in control of substantial lands and oil fields as a Nation State Caliphate... So Supplying And Training ISIS was a hysterical bit of Fake News especially now that the Patriots are in control of the DoD. DoJ and CIA will take a bit longer to flush out the Obama embeds and holdovers.

Now that the Patriots have majority control on the SCOTUS and US Senate the battle against the entrenched Globalist pro-communist China Traitors continues.

Report: ‘Proud Boys’ Classified as ‘Extremist Group’ by FBI

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/11/2...up-by-fbi/

A peaceful conservative group is labeled as extremist by the FBI. But, Antifa continues to terrorize people with violence while wearing masks. So far I still see the full power of the state leveled against normal Americans, and the thugs are 100% protected. At the end of the day, words and symbolic actions mean nothing.

(11-20-2018 12:07 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 03:12 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(11-20-2018 01:05 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  @ms224 "For that kind of money why don't we just buy Mexico and make it civilized?"

Why buy it when it is begging to be taken over and saved for much less... Simple Plan; wipe out the Narco-Terrorists, reinstate Christian/Catholic morality less the little Boy Butt Buggering by HomoFag pedophile priests, and reestablish freedom and democracy with a NorAm Peace Keeping Contingent focusing on birth control and economic stabilization Making All the Americas Great Again.
...

You can't stop illiterate, unarmed Hondurans from climbing your national fence.

Your military is not yours to command. It will go where elites tell it to go and do what the elites tell it to do.

Still bombing Syrians and Iraqis while dropping supplies and trainers in to prop up ISIS, aren't you?

At what point are you going to accept that either Trump is on the take or he's powerless to command this juggernaut you think is going to save the day?

Leonard I normally have respect for your Down Under point of View but WTF Mate???

This is the most Anti-American-Troops shite I ever read:

Still bombing Syrians and Iraqis while dropping supplies and trainers in to prop up ISIS, aren't you?

You clearly do not understand how American fighting men are trained and what we believe... I have many younger lads in my circle of veterans who are combat vets that fought against the radical Islamists who are invading your Country, the EU and attempting with ((((Soros et.al. NGOs)))) funding to pollute the USA.

Not one of them would consider training the enemy ever - we have long tradition of not following illegal or immoral "war crime" orders - in the fog of war mistakes happen but accusing the US Military of Supplying and Training ISIS is far beyond the pale and hateful towards Veterans who have served with Honor and I call total Bull Shite on this statement... General McMaster a CFR 3 Star demanded that Trump put 150K troops on the ground in Syria and Trump heroically resisted getting mired down in another complete Middle East Arabic quagmire... preferring special forces and drones to keep ISIS on the run while avoiding nuclear war with Russia over a shitehole country.

Would MI6, the FSB(Modern KGM) or even the CIA be involved in arming the Enemy? If ISIS Sunnis were beheading Persian Hamas and Hezbollah fighters perhaps - yet most of the ISIS atrocities were against Westerners and Muslim Young Girls who refused to become ISIS wives (sex slaves). So even the intelligence agencies have their moral limits.

Barrack Hussein Obama and Crooked Hillary basically ignored the ISIS Takeover of the Iraq and Syrian Oil Fields and subsequent Oil sales by Tanker Truck Convoys to the Turkish Pipelines for massive cash flows and subsequent surrender/compliance of the Iraq Army with the seizure of their (US) Armored Vehicles, Tanks and Humvees. Thus the wild idea fake news that the USA supplied and trained ISIS when it was the Iraqi Army surrender monkeys under Barry Hussein Obozo - an individual with plenty of Political Skulduggery experience but NO Military Competency who fired all of our competent Conservative (Republican leaning) Generals and Admirals and tried to create a Politically Correct Socially Engineered pro-TransFag proFeminist Military.

This has been completely reversed under Trump with orders to hunt down and terminate ISIS wherever they may scatter and try to hide. ISIS is no longer in control of substantial lands and oil fields as a Nation State Caliphate... So Supplying And Training ISIS was a hysterical bit of Fake News especially now that the Patriots are in control of the DoD. DoJ and CIA will take a bit longer to flush out the Obama embeds and holdovers.

Now that the Patriots have majority control on the SCOTUS and US Senate the battle against the entrenched Globalist pro-communist China Traitors continues.

British and US SF were training the head choppers right up to Trump's victory , I have that from the horses mouth.
Alot of the weapons and fighters themselves were funded by the Qataris and Saudis but all of it, white helmets et al., was with the connivance of MI6 and Langley.
Everyone who was Anyone Knew. And if they didn't know everything, they knew enough that they really didn't want to know anymore.

With Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain, Britain, the US, Turkey all major players and half the Muslim world contributing in their own way .. then how was it supposed to remain a secret for too long?

(11-20-2018 11:56 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  The DOJ should file by the end of the week.

My expectations are for the SCOTUS to require guidelines to resolve the problem because indefinite suspension of asylum requests likely is not constitutional. Very familiar to the judgements on the Muslim country ban. It has to be temporary with working procedures to resolve.

But they're not suspended at all. They just have to be politely submitted at official points of entry rather than sneaking into the country.

That's like saying that issuing driving licenses is suspended because people have to make a quick trip to DMV to get them.

(11-20-2018 12:07 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Leonard I normally have respect for your Down Under point of View but WTF Mate???

This is the most Anti-American-Troops shite I ever read:

Still bombing Syrians and Iraqis while dropping supplies and trainers in to prop up ISIS, aren't you?

You clearly do not understand how American fighting men are trained and what we believe... I have many younger lads in my circle of veterans who are combat vets that fought against the radical Islamists who are invading your Country, the EU and attempting with ((((Soros et.al. NGOs)))) funding to pollute the USA.

Not one of them would consider training the enemy ever - we have long tradition of not following illegal or immoral "war crime" orders - in the fog of war mistakes happen but accusing the US Military of Supplying and Training ISIS is far beyond the pale and hateful towards Veterans who have served with Honor and I call total Bull Shite on this statement... General McMaster a CFR 3 Star demanded that Trump put 150K troops on the ground in Syria and Trump heroically resisted getting mired down in another complete Middle East Arabic quagmire... preferring special forces and drones to keep ISIS on the run while avoiding nuclear war with Russia over a shitehole country.

Would MI6, the FSB(Modern KGM) or even the CIA be involved in arming the Enemy? If ISIS Sunnis were beheading Persian Hamas and Hezbollah fighters perhaps - yet most of the ISIS atrocities were against Westerners and Muslim Young Girls who refused to become ISIS wives (sex slaves). So even the intelligence agencies have their moral limits.

Barrack Hussein Obama and Crooked Hillary basically ignored the ISIS Takeover of the Iraq and Syrian Oil Fields and subsequent Oil sales by Tanker Truck Convoys to the Turkish Pipelines for massive cash flows and subsequent surrender/compliance of the Iraq Army with the seizure of their (US) Armored Vehicles, Tanks and Humvees. Thus the wild idea fake news that the USA supplied and trained ISIS when it was the Iraqi Army surrender monkeys under Barry Hussein Obozo - an individual with plenty of Political Skulduggery experience but NO Military Competency who fired all of our competent Conservative (Republican leaning) Generals and Admirals and tried to create a Politically Correct Socially Engineered pro-TransFag proFeminist Military.

This has been completely reversed under Trump with orders to hunt down and terminate ISIS wherever they may scatter and try to hide. ISIS is no longer in control of substantial lands and oil fields as a Nation State Caliphate... So Supplying And Training ISIS was a hysterical bit of Fake News especially now that the Patriots are in control of the DoD. DoJ and CIA will take a bit longer to flush out the Obama embeds and holdovers.

Now that the Patriots have majority control on the SCOTUS and US Senate the battle against the entrenched Globalist pro-communist China Traitors continues.

You are delusional if you believe that BS you just posted.

US assets haven't trained ISIS and Al'Qaeda have they? They haven't given funding to the White Helmets (Nusra aka Al'Q). ISIS and their fellow jihadis robbed some US weapons store in the ME and got some MANPADS and fancy M16s/M4s etc?

Or may be you are blinded by these people using American patriotism as a whacking stick for your precious boys in uniform?

Do you ignore how the Gulf states arm and fund Sunni terror groups because it doesn't fit your patriotic agenda.

I suppose the Russians just made up the fact the Mujahideen were not trained, armed and funded by the CIA?

I suppose the US industrial complex was surprised to find 1 trillion dollars worth of shit buried in Afghanistan huh?

I suppose the CIA, NSA, MI6 are not enemies of the people by creating the single biggest spying operation - thanks to the PATRIOT ACT and then getting off scott-free and ghosting anybody who tries to get to the bottom of it?

I suppose Saudi Arabia is our ally given it bombs the fuck out of Yemen with all those fancy toys we sell them, oh and they donate them to those poor farmers in Syria who are desperately trying to overthrow a so-called tyrant who just happens to border Israel and Iran and so happens to be sitting on a lot of oil and gas.

Those farmers really want that pipeline to go through Syria and to undercut Russia!

I think you need to step out of r/TheDonald a few days of the weeks and see for yourself how much shit is being wrought by the US military industrial complex.

Honestly, I really like Donaldo ... but this official statement is quite a joke..could have just let it go under the carpet until people forget about it:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-sta...di-arabia/

The world is a very dangerous place!

Quote:The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen, trying to destabilize Iraq’s fragile attempt at democracy, supporting the terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon, propping up dictator Bashar Assad in Syria (who has killed millions of his own citizens), and much more. Likewise, the Iranians have killed many Americans and other innocent people throughout the Middle East. Iran states openly, and with great force, “Death to America!” and “Death to Israel!” Iran is considered “the world’s leading sponsor of terror.”

On the other hand, Saudi Arabia would gladly withdraw from Yemen if the Iranians would agree to leave. They would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance. Additionally, Saudi Arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars in leading the fight against Radical Islamic Terrorism.

After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year, the Kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States. This is a record amount of money. It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, tremendous economic development, and much additional wealth for the United States. Of the $450 billion, $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and many other great U.S. defense contractors. If we foolishly cancel these contracts, Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries – and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business. It would be a wonderful gift to them directly from the United States!

The crime against Jamal Khashoggi was a terrible one, and one that our country does not condone. Indeed, we have taken strong action against those already known to have participated in the murder. After great independent research, we now know many details of this horrible crime. We have already sanctioned 17 Saudis known to have been involved in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi, and the disposal of his body.

Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi was an “enemy of the state” and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but my decision is in no way based on that – this is an unacceptable and horrible crime. King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi. Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event – maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!

That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi. In any case, our relationship is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They have been a great ally in our very important fight against Iran. The United States intends to remain a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia to ensure the interests of our country, Israel and all other partners in the region. It is our paramount goal to fully eliminate the threat of terrorism throughout the world!

I understand there are members of Congress who, for political or other reasons, would like to go in a different direction – and they are free to do so. I will consider whatever ideas are presented to me, but only if they are consistent with the absolute security and safety of America. After the United States, Saudi Arabia is the largest oil producing nation in the world. They have worked closely with us and have been very responsive to my requests to keeping oil prices at reasonable levels – so important for the world. As President of the United States I intend to ensure that, in a very dangerous world, America is pursuing its national interests and vigorously contesting countries that wish to do us harm. Very simply it is called America First!

That's so brutally cucked that it's hard to believe it's coming from the same person destroying cucks and warmongers in every other regard.

(11-17-2018 10:05 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  I actually agree with Gmac. Trump has to work within the constraints of the existing bureaucracy and therefore, as of right now, there is very little he can accomplish. That being said, he is a political version of a big baller troll. He has talked a big game as far as what he would do while probably knowing that he'd do very little of it. That makes him unreliable, to say the least. He needs to shut the fuck up a little. The people don't give a fuck about "record unemployment numbers" and how high the Dow Jones is while there is an opioid epidemic and an immigration onslaught.

It's called keeping up morale. If you ever held a leadership position you would understand this.

Someone post that list of all the accomplishments T has done so far so this guy chills out.

(11-20-2018 04:59 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 10:05 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  I actually agree with Gmac. Trump has to work within the constraints of the existing bureaucracy and therefore, as of right now, there is very little he can accomplish. That being said, he is a political version of a big baller troll. He has talked a big game as far as what he would do while probably knowing that he'd do very little of it. That makes him unreliable, to say the least. He needs to shut the fuck up a little. The people don't give a fuck about "record unemployment numbers" and how high the Dow Jones is while there is an opioid epidemic and an immigration onslaught.

It's called keeping up morale. If you ever held a leadership position you would understand this.

Someone post that list of all the accomplishments T has done so far so this guy chills out.

President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments List:

What's wrong with Trump's statement? Seems like a good idea to remain allies with SA over this. The Kashoggi situation is obviously a deep state plan otherwise MSM wouldn't be pushing so badly for us to retaliate against SA. Who gives a fuck about some ME "journalist".

(11-19-2018 10:06 PM)Turnus Wrote:  Her name is Mareli Miniutti - looks like some no name actress

Well, at least he has excellent taste in thots.

(11-20-2018 06:36 PM)redonion Wrote:  What's wrong with Trump's statement? Seems like a good idea to remain allies with SA over this. The Kashoggi situation is obviously a deep state plan otherwise MSM wouldn't be pushing so badly for us to retaliate against SA. Who gives a fuck about some ME "journalist".

Exactly, he wasn't a journalist. He wrote a couple guest columns for the Washington Post as a M.E. expert or whatever. Besides, how do you define a journalist? Do you have an official card issued by a state or federal agency? "Professional journalist"

(11-20-2018 12:13 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Report: ‘Proud Boys’ Classified as ‘Extremist Group’ by FBI

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/11/2...up-by-fbi/

A peaceful conservative group is labeled as extremist by the FBI. But, Antifa continues to terrorize people with violence while wearing masks. So far I still see the full power of the state leveled against normal Americans, and the thugs are 100% protected. At the end of the day, words and symbolic actions mean nothing.

I was wondering why I hadn't been hearing from Gavin.

No thoughts on how DJT wanted to prosecute HRC but he couldn't cause DOJ wouldn't? Feel like that's info y'all eat up.

(11-20-2018 08:08 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  No thoughts on how DJT wanted to prosecute HRC but he couldn't cause DOJ wouldn't? Feel like that's info y'all eat up.

Was this leaked somewhere? If so, demonstrates a real insurrection against the President's Constitutional authority. Rule of Law must reign in the USA, which demands that HRC is prosecuted and jailed for her proven crimes. But it looks like the criminal "elite" we have won't permit this to happen.

(11-20-2018 06:36 PM)redonion Wrote:  What's wrong with Trump's statement? Seems like a good idea to remain allies with SA over this. The Kashoggi situation is obviously a deep state plan otherwise MSM wouldn't be pushing so badly for us to retaliate against SA. Who gives a fuck about some ME "journalist".

Every spy from every shithole is journalist. They know that when they fuck up, the retarded typists from the western media will run over fire to protect 'one of their own'.

Its so easy, its laughable.

But isn't that EXTREMELY bizarre? Usually the deep state is usually fellating the Saudis so hard that they're fucking choking themselves on Saudi cock.... While also taking some up the ass too and loving every second of it.

Something BIG has changed behind the scenes. First this situation, then demands for action against them, and now the Yemen ceasefire.

Hey can anyone access AnonymousConservative? The site is unavailable on my end through my mobile and through the internet. I noticed this a couple days ago, but got a different version of site down. To clarify the blog is down. The main site is open. Very strange.

They come for the WhiteNationalists, Vault-Co, Alex Jones, and now possibly AC. Who's next? Cernovich? Roosh? Sundance?

(01-10-2019 09:01 PM)durangotang Wrote:  In regards to the steel wall, the following article was featured on Drudge today. I can only conclude, based on that article, that the Democrats want a steel structure because they had access to a redacted DHS report that showed all eight prototype walls constructed were vulnerable to breaching. That said, according to the article, the steel bollard design has been internally updated subsequently to require multiple industrial tools to breach.

Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

A photo shows that the steel columns were breached with a common industrial tool.

From the article:

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The Trump administration directed the construction of eight steel and concrete prototype walls that were built in Otay Mesa, California, just across the border from Tijuana, Mexico. Trump inspected the prototypes in March 2018. He has now settled on a steel slat, or steel bollard, design for the proposed border barrier additions. Steel bollard fencing has been used under previous administrations.

However, testing by DHS in late 2017 showed all eight prototypes, including the steel slats, were vulnerable to breaching, according to an internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report.

Photos of the breaches were not included in a redacted version of the CBP report, which was first obtained in a Freedom of Information Act Request by San Diego public broadcaster KPBS....

Responding to the picture from the South Lawn of the White House on Thursday morning, Trump claimed "that’s a wall designed by previous administrations."

While it is true that previous administrations used this design, the prototype was built during his administration.

"It's very, very hard — the wall that we are doing is very, very hard to penetrate," Trump said...

"While the design currently being constructed was informed by what we learned in the prototypes, it does not replicate those designs," said Waldman. "The steel bollard design is internally reinforced with materials that require time and multiple industrial tools to breach, thereby providing U.S. Border Patrol agents additional response time to affect a successful law enforcement resolution. In the event that one of the steel bollards becomes damaged, it is quick and cost-effective to repair.

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So even the concrete prototypes were breach-able? Fascinating. Well, if these steel slats actually are effective then sure. I just don't want to see them being cut down when Trump isn't in charge anymore. Was really hoping we'd get a fancy two layer system like those middle eastern countries have but...oh well. Maybe someday we'll be as prosperous and fortunate as those nations.

Also, looks like the brother of Officer Ronil Singh next to Trump in that video. Very classy. That story still gets to me...

edit: quick video

(01-10-2019 10:20 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  There is also a rumor that the reason Bezos got found out and now faces divorce was because of Trump and his use of the National Enquirer to go after Bezos because of the attacks from the Washington Post. Trump is known to have very good connections to the National Enquirer.

https://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebri...exclusive/

https://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebri...exclusive/

I hope this is true. Please be true

Doesn't matter much.

Opposition to the Trump wall is based on (((Religion))). Once the wall is up, the moral argument is beat. It will be much much easier to fix or upgrade the wall than to build the wall in the first place.

Republicans are right to say that federal programs, once started, never get ended and see ever increasing budgets over time.

(01-10-2019 10:09 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:  [quote='durangotang' pid='1920045' dateline='1547172071']

In regards to the steel wall, the following article was featured on Drudge today. I can only conclude, based on that article, that the Democrats want a steel structure because they had access to a redacted DHS report that showed all eight prototype walls constructed were vulnerable to breaching. That said, according to the article, the steel bollard design has been internally updated subsequently to require multiple industrial tools to breach.

Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

Building a weak wall could totally backfire. If we build a wall and then within a month, the cartels use tools to break pieces of the wall open and cut through, cnn will be all over that 24/7 airing "proof that Trump's wall doesn't work and is easily breached"



http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/p...r-saw.html

Quote:Donald Trump’s border wall is a monument to xenophobic paranoia. Its function isn’t to bolster national security, but to alleviate nationalists’ psychological insecurity.

If the wall’s proponents were sincerely motivated by a concern for Americans’ safety and well-being, they would acknowledge that illegal border crossings are in long-term decline; that American municipalities with large populations of undocumented immigrants have lower crime rates than those that do not; and that Americans who live within 350 miles of the U.S. southern border are more likely to oppose a border wall than those who live farther away from the putative border “crisis.” Further, such earnest defenders of national security would also recognize that a wall wouldn’t be a rational means of resolving an illegal immigration crisis, even if we actually had one.

But the wall was never intended to protect public safety. Its purpose is to fortify an embattled conception of American identity. Undocumented immigration has been declining for a decade. But thanks to legal immigration, demographic change has been rapidly accelerating. And some white Americans have perceived this as a threat to their sense of social status and belonging in “their” own country. In such voters’ eyes, Trump’s wall guarantees the durability of the boundary between their America and the nonwhite world — and thus, the stability of the group identity on which their sense of self is precariously balanced. Trump projects his base’s fear and hatred onto a brown-skinned other, and then promises to put an “impenetrable, physical, tall, powerful, beautiful” barrier between them (his supporters) and all human evil.

In other words, the wall is hella racist. And the attitudes it memorializes have fueled a broader set of needlessly cruel border enforcement policies, among them, the deliberate psychological torture of thousands of children.

So, that’s the main problem with Trump’s wall. One secondary problem: It is, apparently, very easy to saw through. As NBC News reports: