BRILLIANT!
All we can do is be proactive but hey if the GOP wants to play to lose we have to hightail it out of America. Only reasons why I read this board is to laugh and to get a trend of where everything is heading.
"For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop."
Nice point and I never considered that angle! I'm a nice person but that devil on my shoulder is gleefully rubbing his hands. I speak for myself when or if that day of reckoning comes and I'm safely tucked away with loads of money but man these never trumpers, cuckservatives, and liberal retards really had it coming. Learn new skills, stockpile money, make valuable connections! I never said it here but if Clinton won I would have been out of the country within months.
(09-21-2018 10:42 AM)TravelerKai Wrote: Just to play devil's advocate why do people think post Trump will be a disaster? Is he not stacking the courts in conservatives' favor (playing the long term game)? There's always Jim Jordan right? FYI I think he'll win 2020 and there's a 0% of him getting assassinated. In the latter case it probably would kickstart civil war.
On the other hand, the GOP has shown itself unwilling to help the average joe and beyond Jim Jordan I don't see anyone competent or trust them.
Pence: Koch brothers goon.
Trump Jr: Ok but Sr will always be better unless he gets a serious leg up from his dad. Could be why he's with that Latina.
And yes socialism is on the rise.
Still, wouldn't hurt to be proactive and stockpile money if leaving or other items and valuable connections if staying in America. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
There was an RVF post, maybe by Samseau or TK in detailing how all Trump is doing is offering everyone time. The correction and collapse are cooked and is not avoidable but instead of coming like a break it will be a slow boil but Trump is giving everyone time to get head and get ready. For the folks who stay ignorant and hating and not improving their situation during these Trump years, it will be bleak and cold once the good times stop.
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Yes and No.
There is a chance. Yes, a chance, that Trump can reset the empire clock back, in the form of making a new era/empire.
If you look at the Roman Empire, the ~246 year max rule for empire before they could collapse, a few different times. Augustus, Trajan, etc. There are quite a few examples the more that I think about it. The Roman Empire was 600-ish years old. Technically speaking they should have had at least 3 collapses, which you could argue that it did happen, but they managed to recover them until it was not recoverable.
After Trump we actually have a few guys that are solid as fuck, unlike the Democrats. All they have are celebrities like Dwayne Johnson. Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, are just the top two. Our bench is stronger than the Dem's main team. We have Trey Gowdy and others. With the exception of Jim and Matt, the rest are Trump-Lite for now, but that is better than what the other side has.
As for guys like Hypno and others suggesting that Trump do anything or go prosecute the bitch, etc. Just stop guys. Trump cannot do those things for the millionth time. That's outside the power the constitution grants him. Just let the process flow. It's messy for a reason. Why do you think Socrates disliked democracy? He knew it's weakness was the standards of education of the voters and that it made dumb people dumber.
Give a fool enough rope and they will always wring their own neck. The trolls on the forum, Nasa Test Pilot, Dragan, the pedo whose name I forgot, etc. all these guys hung themselves with only a little bit of work from us. Their arrogance and hubris was their downfall. Same thing with the Democrats. Their have grossly overplayed their own hand. Grassley and others are old enough and wise enough to notice this. They will maintain a fair process knowing that no matter what they are going to win, so why not get free political ad material? THEN after this circus is over, use the same footage to constantly remind voters of what the liberals did, in the form of ads, over and over.
American Politics is a game. ABC. Always Be Campaigning. You are never out of campaign mode. If your opponents are making massive mistakes, let em do it and use it for TV, internet, and radio advertisements.
Anyway as far as what Trump can do permanently to reset the clock for a while, is to shift American Politics to the right, so much so that the Democrat party would have to shift or stay dead or irrelevant for two decades possibly. They are likely stubborn enough to do that, but their base will make them get more radical as a reaction while shrinking in size. If they let pollsters and political scientists figure that out for them, they will shift more to the right and give up certain platforms until later.
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