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redonion · 2016-09-01 12:15:00 · #39055
(09-01-2016 12:11 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  What is this lame ass excuse for a debate?!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/01/matt-l...y-clinton/

1 hour, trump and clinton will not be on stage at the same time.

I'd be shocked if Trump stood for this. He should just call out Hillary and refuse to do anything other than a classic debate. She'll look weak as hell if she declines.
Going strong · 2016-09-01 12:19:00 · #39056
(09-01-2016 12:11 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  What is this lame ass excuse for a debate?!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/01/matt-l...y-clinton/

1 hour, trump and clinton will not be on stage at the same time.

Shielding her from Trump's questions...

By the way, the "moderator" is a Clinton Foundation member, sorry, guest...
eljeffster · 2016-09-01 12:23:00 · #39057
(09-01-2016 11:57 AM)Jaydublin Wrote:  ^^^^ Giuliani has been a huge surprise. I have really began to like this guy with Trump leading the way.

And Trump, walking by the place he would raise his great wall, saw Giuliani, He called to him, who was casting a net into the sea of America: for he was a man of the media.

And the Donald saith unto him, Follow me, and I will make you a leader of men.

And he straightway left the cable news, and followed him.

And the God Emperor raised him up, and shined his light upon him, that he may spread the word. . . MAGA.
eskimobobseal · 2016-09-01 12:27:00 · #39058
The first debate was always scheduled for 9/26 not 9/7 - that doesn't mean Crooked Hillary Cunton isn't going to find a way to change the format of that one too.

Still, them not appearing on the same stage tells me the news on Hillary's failing health is accurate.
iop890 · 2016-09-01 12:30:00 · #39059
This is now a #TrumpSwag thread.

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Post em!
Canopus · 2016-09-01 12:48:00 · #39060
Unreal.

I can still remember the doubt, alarm, and outright despair after the post-DNC slump and am left shaking my head in amazement at how this swaggering son of a bitch just will not give up.

He readjusts, comes back firing, and starts turning the momentum around on seemingly nothing but his complete confidence in himself and an ironclad dedication to his campaign slogan.

Said it before. Saying it again, all the way to November:

This fucking guy.

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Foolsgo1d · 2016-09-01 12:56:00 · #39061
(09-01-2016 12:11 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  What is this lame ass excuse for a debate?!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/01/matt-l...y-clinton/

1 hour, trump and clinton will not be on stage at the same time.

They're protecting Hillary for sure. She might even go after just to be able to counter Trumps points and so her own are not dismantled like a poorly built wall.
Libertas · 2016-09-01 12:59:00 · #39062
(09-01-2016 11:04 AM)kaotic Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 10:59 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Guys, you should not be afraid to use what you've learned in this thread in the real world. If you've been part of this thread from the beginning you are an EXPERT on Trump and the Alt-Right. I'm most likely getting published, paid and all, (was before too), because of the knowledge from this thread. You know more from this thread than the local guy on radio or TV.

Absolutely right we have so many ways to counter and defeat Hillary supporters.

Let alone defeat the tactics of the left and adapt them to our own use to flip the script.

Our knowledge and views shouldn't be regulated to this thread but into the real world - I'm never afraid to make my views known.

It might trigger people, but being a minority for Trump, they literally have no logical answer they can throw at me - can't be a racist, a bigot, a xenophone, and I'm fucking intelligent.

Even if you're a "white male" that SJW's hate, you're still bulletproof with fucking facts.

Grab that knowledge and get in the shit, let your voice be heard, never let anyone silence you.

FUCK THEM.

Speaking of defeating them, here's where word-think comes into play (you were hitting on it but not quite getting it entirely). At the risk of too much self-promotion, I'll quote a post I put out today on this topic:

Quote:Many conservative pundits have asked, often while lamenting among themselves, why the left has generally been superior in the political and cultural clashes between the two, particularly in the past 50 years. Much of the answer has to do with the fact that the left has mastered the magic of word-think spells:

So and so is “racist.”
So and so is “sexist.”
So and so is “misogynistic.”
So and so is “pro-rape.”
So and so is “homophobic.”
So and so is “Islamophobic.”
So and so is “nativist” and/or “anti-immigrant.”
So and so “hates poor/old/disabled people.”

Continue on ad infinitum.

These words pair the accused with something emotionally bad, relatable, and often visual. Critical thinking shuts down completely. Confirmation bias takes over. The person or side being accused, having a frame imposed on him/them (and an ugly, emotionally-charged one), desperately tries to get out of it by denials. This only makes him look guilty. It also saps himself and his side of initiative, as supporters will try to look for “evidence” to deny the label, which won’t work anyway due to the shut down in analysis and the takeover of confirmation bias. All the space has been dominated.

Remember the whole “War on Women” in 2012? That dogged Mitt Romney from beginning to end, and his fairly innocuous but sort-of-bad-sounding “binders full of women” quip in the latter stages of the campaign hit him extremely hard because the meme magicians on Obama’s campaign (probably including Robert Cialdini – Scott Adams’ “Godzilla” himself) had been programming word-thinkers to think of Mitt Romney as “anti-woman” for months, and that comment was just more confirmation bias. Note that the exact same language they’re applying to Donald Trump now, they were using on Mitt Romney, though the “War on Women” generally ruled the day among the word-think spells in 2012. Despite the fundamentals looking not-great for Barack Obama in 2012 (high unemployment, his signature achievement in the Affordable Care Act being unpopular), he won the election handily, in large part because of the word-think magic spells he and his team concocted against the opposition.

In contrast to this, conservatives have generally conducted themselves along these lines:

“Lower taxes.”
“Less regulations.”
Something something the Constitution.
Something something peace through strength.
Something something Israel.
Something something Ronald Reagan.
“Secure the border.”
Something something God.

A few of these things have some potency. For example, “the Constitution” sounds patriotic and is vague enough to let people fill in the blanks with their own ideas. Same goes for “Secure the border.” However, these things aren’t nearly as potent as the left’s things because…

They aren’t relatable to a lot of, in Nigel Farage’s words, “ordinary people.” Most people don’t think about the Constitution because it’s not something they encounter in their lives. At best, they encounter it in school. It has little to no meaning to them.

These things have little to no ability to program word-thinkers. At best, they can do so a little bit, like maybe saying someone is “against the Constitution,” a nebulous concept too distant to be extremely emotional or motivating. But if you’re a politician, and you tell people that your opponent is racist, they start to imagine all kinds of bad things because of the pairing of language with some feasible “evidence.”

This is why the left has tended to win in the long run. Democrats have won 5 out of 6 of the last presidential elections in terms of the popular vote. Republicans have often dominated state and congressional races, but this is often because turnout is lower and congressional (and state legislative) districts are heavily gerrymandered.

That’s not to suggest Democrats don’t gerrymander as much as their Republican counterparts when given the chance. My work in politics in New York has shown that both sides are equally guilty of the practice (in fact, my first big assignment at one of my jobs a few years ago had to do with the redistricting that was going on in New York just when I arrived). Gerrymandering just tends to benefit Republicans more directly than Democrats.

That’s simply a fact.

If you started to get emotional because I paired “Republican” with “gerrymandering,” which stands for the concept of being a politician that gets to select your own voters, and you started to object in some way, guess what? You were word-thinking, and I just programmed a reaction in you.

Basically, conservatives have gotten lucky a few times by sometimes casting a spell by accident, while leftists have all gone to the Sorcerer’s Guild and learned how to use magic. Their words aren’t random. They know how to say the words in the proper way to cast a spell. Conservatives don’t.

Leftists are trained. Conservatives, for all their professed intellectual, “facts over feelings” prowess, aren’t.

The real revolution Donald Trump is bringing to the Republican Party, far beyond any tone or policy, is an education on how to use magic (the tools to program word-thinkers) to win.

Learn about word-think and you see the key to literally the closest thing to magic. 99% of the world are word-thinkers, as Scott remarks on. Including on this forum. We've all been guilty. Persuaders are the people that program the word-thinkers of the world. That's why I knew they were going to use "dark" in association with the immigration speech.

Trump is just giving the right the tools the left has always used to win.
Nascimento · 2016-09-01 13:10:00 · #39063
Wait, what?

They changed the debate format so that they aren't debating each other?

BS if true.
RexImperator · 2016-09-01 13:11:00 · #39064
This is weird. Something is up with these debates.
Menace · 2016-09-01 13:16:00 · #39065
This appears to be an additional event. Debate will still take place with them on the same stage (it has to).
Libertas · 2016-09-01 13:19:00 · #39066
The debates were scheduled as they were since last year. This event next week is just a forum.
C-Note · 2016-09-01 13:37:00 · #39067
(09-01-2016 01:19 PM)Libertas Wrote:  The debates were scheduled as they were since last year. This event next week is just a forum.

By using this format it was probably an easier sell to both candidates because facing off against each other would have involved much more preparation.
Sam Malone · 2016-09-01 13:58:00 · #39068
(09-01-2016 01:37 PM)C-Note Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 01:19 PM)Libertas Wrote:  The debates were scheduled as they were since last year. This event next week is just a forum.

By using this format it was probably an easier sell to both candidates because facing off against each other would have involved much more preparation.

Agreed, but I don't like it.

What are the odds that, the day after, this format will be suggested for the real debates ?
Enoch · 2016-09-01 14:23:00 · #39069
The debates will unfold one of two ways. 1. Trump crushes Hillary. Trump wins. 2. Hillary chickens out in some way. Trump wins. My bigger concern is that the current voting security issues are a CIA operation meant to invalidate Trump's victory.
AneroidOcean · 2016-09-01 14:43:00 · #39070
(09-01-2016 12:19 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 12:11 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  What is this lame ass excuse for a debate?!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/01/matt-l...y-clinton/

1 hour, trump and clinton will not be on stage at the same time.

Shielding her from Trump's questions...

By the way, the "moderator" is a Clinton Foundation member, sorry, guest...

Fucking lying media. That article states that it'll be the first forum between the two candidates. WHAT THE FUCK kind of word-twisting is this? A forum is WITH two candidates. They won't be on stage at the same time. How is it POSSIBLE that there is any "between" the two candidates other than the empty stage and dead mic that will be "between" them. They are trying to paint this as a first debate or contest/competition between the two which is is absolutely not.

Quote:1. a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

This can't even be classified as an exchange because they won't be on stage or responding to each other.

What a crock.
Hotwheels · 2016-09-01 15:43:00 · #39071
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She's done.
Deepdiver · 2016-09-01 15:48:00 · #39072
And the pivot results are:

September 01, 2016, 11:21 am
Rasmussen poll: Trump leads Clinton nationally
By Mark Hensch

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...nationwide

Donald Trump has jumped ahead of Hillary Clinton nationally in the race for the White House, according to a new poll.

Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, has 40 percent support to Clinton's 39 percent, according to a poll by the right-leaning Rasmussen Reports released Thursday.


Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson got 7 percent, and Green Party nominee Jill Steins got 3 percent.
Last week's edition of the same poll showed Clinton, the Democratic nominee, ahead by 4 points, 42 percent to 38 percent.

Clinton's support is down 5 points from a high of 44 percent in the Rasmussen poll taken in early August, shortly after the Democratic National Convention.

The TREND is our FRIEND... BIG LEAGUE!

Looks very much like a late peaking that worked for both Ronald Reagan against Jimmy Carter and GW against Climate Gore.
Going strong · 2016-09-01 16:00:00 · #39073
(09-01-2016 03:43 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  [Image: xScreen-Shot-2016-08-31-at-12.37.13-PM.p...hPqVIY.jpg]

She's done.

Frightening. I mean, she looks like a ghost. And not a funny Walt-Disney one.

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Soon to be?:
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Dusty · 2016-09-01 16:11:00 · #39074
I guess our immigration policies need to be adapted so as to not trigger neurotic fears in (((3% of the population.)))

   
Dusty · 2016-09-01 16:22:00 · #39075
Oy vey, with the drama and the hysterics. What mashuginna.

   
Adonis · 2016-09-01 16:29:00 · #39076
Came home from a 2 week TDY to find this at my door waiting for me!

Had no connectivity so I have lots of catching up to do.

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Tactician · 2016-09-01 16:31:00 · #39077
(09-01-2016 12:19 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 12:11 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  What is this lame ass excuse for a debate?!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/01/matt-l...y-clinton/

1 hour, trump and clinton will not be on stage at the same time.

Shielding her from Trump's questions...

By the way, the "moderator" is a Clinton Foundation member, sorry, guest...

The comments in that article are hilarious:

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Edit: Nice collection. So jelly right now.

Trump's chances to win, taken from the betting markets, improved a lot since his big speech and meeting with the Mexican President yesterday.
Latinopan · 2016-09-01 16:31:00 · #39078
Well, I discovered Hope Hicks, she is the person journalist have to contact before they speak with Trump, interesting she keeps a low profile for somebody in her position.





She used to work for Ivanka, Ivanka and Tiffany are off the table as dating materials, given how much security they must have as daughters of Trump, Hicks is the closest thing to a Trump girl.

If any guy has the chance don't miss.

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Slim Shady · 2016-09-01 16:33:00 · #39079
Gary Johnson is one of the biggest con-troll jobs out there, taking away votes from Trump. A libertarian in name only to boot. People voting for him are absolute idiots.
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