(07-31-2015 07:06 AM)h3ltrsk3ltr Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 06:43 AM)vinman Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 06:40 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  I didn't realize Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Peter Schiff and Vince Vaughn are/were naive college students.

Ron Paul is an American hero for bringing the corruption of our central bank to the national discourse after nearly a hundred years of media blackout since our Central bank was established in 1913 and the banks bought up all the newspapers in the 1920's.

Yeah, and how dare he talk about ending the drug war while promoting peace, and individual liberty. Fuck him, right?

The blatant media disrespect he receives would have be laughable if it wasn't so effective. Apparently anyone who speaks in cogent arguments is "not electable"...actually that kind of makes twisted, weird sense.

Speaking of cogent arguments this just came in via email from Mr. Ron Paul and his C4L PAC so I am sharing it here among men who get it - the new Obamunist Atty General is a CAF NAZI and the Obamunists are looking to crush as many middle class success strivers as possible - this I am sure means YOU and I both - it astounds me how much the leftist Marxist Socialist Feminist LGBTQstds Obamunists have demolished the Constitution of the United States of America to embed their deviant degenerate philosophy - CAF has morphed from a war on drugs tool to a tool to crush Alpha masculine Neomen that REFUSE to kowtow to the Obamunist's Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals thought control police state:

This FAIR ACT by Ron and Rand Paul is designed to protect Red Pill Manosphere Neomen everywhere...

If not US then who? If not NOW then when? Liberty belongs only to men who defend it.

From: Ron Paul <[email protected]>
To: Deepdiver
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Legalized Theft

Campaign for Liberty – Please support the FAIR ACT by Ron and Rand Paul

Dear Deepdiver,

One reason the Founders crafted the 5th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was to stop government from depriving citizens of their life, liberty, or property without due process of law.

In fact, when discussing these rights in 1772, Samuel Adams wrote, "Now what liberty can there be where property is taken away without consent?"

But today, government policing for profit operations are set to ramp up around the country.

I'm afraid they're going to follow the lead of our new Attorney General Loretta Lynch who confiscated nearly a BILLION DOLLARS worth of civil assets as a U.S. prosecutor!

This is bad, bad news.

According to the Department of Justice's statistics, it seized over $4.4 BILLION from American citizens in 2012 alone.

It's just ONE of 12 federal agencies throwing "innocent until proven guilty" out the window to make seizures!

And these figures don't even include the tens of BILLIONS local governments seize from innocent law-abiding Americans every year!

This can of worms was originally opened to give law enforcement more power to fight their Drug War.

Now, it's spiraling out of control as government increasingly looks for any excuse to confiscate anyone's property to pad their own coffers.

Many times, it's the poor who are targeted -- because government officials know they often can't afford high-priced attorneys or the court fees it takes to fight back.

How long until these rogue police powers are used to target citizens whose growing gun collections government believes are "suspicious?"

Or carry cash on family vacations instead of credit cards to help keep track of spending?

With money-hungry government goons becoming even more brazen with the backing of President Obama's new Attorney General, Loretta Lynch -- I'm counting on your IMMEDIATE action to help me stop this madness.

As you'll see, I've created petitions to your U.S. Representatives and Senators insisting they cosponsor and vote for the Fifth Amendment Integrity Restoration (FAIR) Act, S. 255/H.R. 540.

If passed, the FAIR Act, introduced by my son, Senator Rand Paul, would finally END the policing for profit operations around the United States that is bleeding innocent Americans dry.

That's why I'm counting on your action in support of the FAIR Act today!

With a tidal wave of grassroots pressure, I believe you and I can FORCE Congress to act to restore the Fifth Amendment.

But even if you and I can just force a vote, it's a win/win situation.

Let members of Congress try and defend their votes to allow rogue government agencies outright theft of innocent -- and often poor -- Americans' property.

They'll pay a steep price at the polls in 2016!

So please, take a moment to sign your petitions in support of the FAIR Act today.

As former Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen once said, "When I feel the heat, I see the light."

After you've signed, I hope you'll make your most generous contribution to Campaign for Liberty today to help them turn up the heat and end the practice of "civil asset theft"!

http://www.chooseliberty.org/assettheft.aspx?pid=0730

For Liberty,

Ron Paul
Chairman

P.S. Legalized government theft under the official-sounding euphemism "Civil Asset Forfeiture" is a racket that would make the mafia proud.

With government agencies around the country set to follow Attorney General Loretta Lynch's lead and ramp up their stealing of innocent Americans' wealth, I'm counting on your IMMEDIATE action.

Please sign your petitions in support of the FAIR Act and make your most generous contribution to Campaign for Liberty today.

Because of Campaign For Liberty's tax-exempt status under IRC Sec. 501©(4) and its state and federal legislative activities, contributions are not tax deductible as charitable contributions (IRC § 170) or as business deductions (IRC § 162(e)(1)).

http://www.CampaignForLiberty.org

What is the point of implementing voter ID laws again?

I never got the fascination of Republicans with the whole voter ID thing. Every time I go and vote, they already have my name, address and everything on record.

Whatever floats peoples boat.

The point of implementing voter ID laws is that certain groups who are more likely to vote Democratic, such as blacks and hispanics, are less likely than average to have proper ID.

(07-31-2015 12:53 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  The point of implementing voter ID laws is that certain groups who are more likely to vote Democratic, such as blacks and hispanics, are less likely than average to have proper ID.

In the states that implemented the voter ID laws, this was not found to be the case. The % of people who then had to apply for the state issued free ID were in the same % of the racial make up of the state.

This is just an excuse by the left, so they can keep trying to stuff the ballot box so they can push more feminism on our society.

I will give Trump his credit where it's due.

He's a genius at making money.

And I do get a big kick out of the fact that he basically shits all over these establishment candidates. They're terrified of him and don't really know how to deal with him...yet.

I like and appreciate that he's doing what the press should have been doing to these pathetic Republicans and Dems for the past 40 years. He's ripping them all new assholes. And the press should have been doing this job, instead of kissing ass for the past 40 years.

But I just don't think he's presidential material. He lacks the judgment and even temper that's required for the job. He's too thin-skinned, too egotistical, and too naive about world affairs.

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(07-31-2015 02:36 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  But I just don't think he's presidential material. He lacks the judgment and even temper that's required for the job. He's too thin-skinned, too egotistical, and too naive about world affairs.
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I would consider this, but after the last 7 years I think this point has gone out the window.

(07-31-2015 02:36 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  But I just don't think he's presidential material. He lacks the judgment and even temper that's required for the job. He's too thin-skinned, too egotistical, and too naive about world affairs.

I think everyone has a hard time believing extremely successful people like him can put on different personas for different people.

Do you think he acts the same with powerful Chinese businessmen as he does with these reporters?

No, because he has respect for the Chinese businessmen and can see a mutual benefit. These reporters and most of the candidates are indeed idiots and we all know it. He just has the guts to treat them like idiots.

You notice when he talks about Russia, China, Japan, and Mexico he never disses those countries, only the deals we have with those countries.

If he said "China is a disgrace and a joke". I wouldn't listen to him anymore. In fact he respects our competitors so much he builds them up as worthy adversaries and pays closer attention to them.

(07-31-2015 12:51 PM)MidWest Wrote:  What is the point of implementing voter ID laws again?

I never got the fascination of Republicans with the whole voter ID thing. Every time I go and vote, they already have my name, address and everything on record.

The goal is to stop voter fraud. There are people registered under multiple names who then vote multiple times. Or whose families still vote for deceased family members long after they're dead.Or fraud rings that just stuff ballot boxes with 100,000 manufactured votes. Or taking ballot boxes of precincts known to vote against you and just tossing them into the sea, uncounted.

Anyone who's actually voted in America can see a hundred different ways to hack the current voting process and manufacture whatever vote turnout you want. Going by the Gervais Principle, the crappy, antiquated system of balloting we have currently is not being improved precisely because the power elites are using it to stay in power, and know that they'll end up out of office if the system was improved.

Changing voter's minds is pointless when someone else is still creatively counting the ballots to total up to whatever number they want.

(07-31-2015 02:50 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 02:36 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  But I just don't think he's presidential material. He lacks the judgment and even temper that's required for the job. He's too thin-skinned, too egotistical, and too naive about world affairs.

I think everyone has a hard time believing extremely successful people like him can put on different personas for different people.

Do you think he acts the same with powerful Chinese businessmen as he does with these reporters?

No, because he has respect for the Chinese businessmen and can see a mutual benefit. These reporters and most of the candidates are indeed idiots and we all know it. He just has the guts to treat them like idiots.

You notice when he talks about Russia, China, Japan, and Mexico he never disses those countries, only the deals we have with those countries.

If he said "China is a disgrace and a joke". I wouldn't listen to him anymore. In fact he respects our competitors so much he builds them up as worthy adversaries and pays closer attention to them.

This is true.

Trump doesn't suffer fools. The media? Mostly fools.

He also knows a damn sight more about world affairs than the current second term occupant ever did before becoming candidate.

He obviously knows how to comport himself when he's in the presence of intelligent, capable men. Be they business leaders or world leaders.

He wouldn't use the same 'throw your elbows' verbiage and tone a lot of us are seeing with him on TV. The reason he's conveying this now is because he's being attacked on all sides (even his "own" side) and he plays hard ball when attacked.

The fact that he's been highly successful negotiating real estate deals all over the world including one of the toughest real estate markets, New York, all but proves he is more than able to get things done effectively with intelligent and successful people....ergo leaders. I mean, if he has the temperament to negotiate and achieve his goals in real estate deals, why wouldn't he with world leaders? Surely, he's not going in these board rooms and just 'bullying' people left and right and being a blow hard. Different medium, same skills and principles apply.

Ronald Reagan was president of the Screen Actors Guild long before he got into politics. After becoming POTUS, he remarked that after negotiating with Hollywood big wigs and producers on behalf of the actors he represented while on the Screen Actors Guild, negotiating with the Russians on nuclear arms issues wasn't so tough.

Trump's tax reform idea from 2000

1,5,10,15%

0-30k: 1%
30-100k: 5%
100-1M: 10%
1M+: 15%

One time tax of 14.25% on individuals and trusts with net worths over 10M and use the proceeds to pay down national debt and refund social security.

If trump stays with this tax reform, I'm voting for him no doubt about it.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_...Reform.htm

(07-31-2015 03:49 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  Trump's tax reform idea from 2000

1,5,10,15%

0-30k: 1%
30-100k: 5%
100-1M: 10%
1M+: 15%

One time tax of 14.25% on individuals and trusts with net worths over 10M and use the proceeds to pay down national debt and refund social security.

If trump stays with this tax reform, I'm voting for him no doubt about it.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_...Reform.htm

Wow, that would be amazing. You can hear people like Buffet, who call for higher taxes, squeal and scream when he finds out he will get his wish. But it will not be on his income, but on his net worth that he thinks will always be safe so he can spout off.

(07-31-2015 02:36 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  But I just don't think he's presidential material. He lacks the judgment and even temper that's required for the job. He's too thin-skinned, too egotistical, and too naive about world affairs.

He couldn't be any worse than Obama, who was similarly thin-skinned, egotistical, and suicidally naive about world affairs (even after 8 years in the job - I really don't like the Iran deal, but let's leave that aside for the moment). And Trump has had perhaps the more significant work experience: he's had to actually manage people in a for-profit business. And the US Presidency is basically the most important managerial job on the planet. You can still be egotistical and run a place well. Trump would not still be in business all this time if he didn't know how to pick and manage the right people.

(07-31-2015 02:50 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 02:36 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  But I just don't think he's presidential material. He lacks the judgment and even temper that's required for the job. He's too thin-skinned, too egotistical, and too naive about world affairs.

I think everyone has a hard time believing extremely successful people like him can put on different personas for different people.

Do you think he acts the same with powerful Chinese businessmen as he does with these reporters?

No, because he has respect for the Chinese businessmen and can see a mutual benefit. These reporters and most of the candidates are indeed idiots and we all know it. He just has the guts to treat them like idiots.

Additionally, with a lot of the countries we're having conflicts with Trump would have an advantage. I can tell you from personal experience that the Middle Eastern culture favors aggressive, brash negotiators over those who come from an extremely passive mindset.

Which was Obama's mistake. The guy is only extremely aggressive when he has an absolute advantage over them (e.g. targeting conservatives groups who can destroy with DOJ and IRS powers). With Irana, Obama and the rest of his ilk entered negotiations with the mentality that they couldn't risk pissing off Iran or the Iranians would jump ship to ally with Putin (yes, that part is important) rather than an aggressive attitude confident in the value the US could offer Iran. Consequently they were shredded.

I've tried very hard to get to know Trump better as a candidate in the last few weeks, but he fails to rise higher than number 2 in my personal poll.

I think a lot of people are getting emotionally swayed by his jerkboy charm and getting away from real issues and solutions.

Due process and constitutional rights aren't just Tea Party talking points. These are the real things that will make sure men accused of false rape in colleges will be saved. Freedom is the ultimate thing for a man. I might even say it is higher than life itself. Live free or die.

Trump is certainly saying a lot of things that desperately needed to be said, be he is not saying all of the things that need to be said. He is only saying some of the important things very loudly.

In my mind there is no candidate except Rand Paul. Trump, however, is better than any of the others. If you have ever been arrested, or faced any sort of false accusation, you will hopefully see where I am coming from. The police state, which is very much related to feminism, is the biggest threat to us all.

I hope that the forum gets disillusioned of the pathos in the coming months.

(08-01-2015 01:09 AM)Slim Shady Wrote:  I've tried very hard to get to know Trump better as a candidate in the last few weeks, but he fails to rise higher than number 2 in my personal poll.

I think a lot of people are getting emotionally swayed by his jerkboy charm and getting away from real issues and solutions.

Due process and constitutional rights aren't just Tea Party talking points. These are the real things that will make sure men accused of false rape in colleges will be saved. Freedom is the ultimate thing for a man. I might even say it is higher than life itself. Live free or die.

Trump is certainly saying a lot of things that desperately needed to be said, be he is not saying all of the things that need to be said. He is only saying some of the important things very loudly.

In my mind there is no candidate except Rand Paul. Trump, however, is better than any of the others. If you have ever been arrested, or faced any sort of false accusation, you will hopefully see where I am coming from. The police state, which is very much related to feminism, is the biggest threat to us all.

I hope that the forum gets disillusioned of the pathos in the coming months.

(07-31-2015 11:02 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I just want Trump to stay in as long as possible to help wake up more young men. If we can get enough young men to wake up, maybe we can peacefully get women out of the voting booth and get the country back on the right track.

How?
Do you think it'll be this easy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1J8uX9_-Bg

(07-31-2015 12:51 PM)MidWest Wrote:  What is the point of implementing voter ID laws again?

I never got the fascination of Republicans with the whole voter ID thing. Every time I go and vote, they already have my name, address and everything on record.

Whatever floats peoples boat.

What's the point of showing ID when I go the airport? Every time I go and fly, they already have my name, address and everything on record.

(08-01-2015 02:29 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 12:51 PM)MidWest Wrote:  What is the point of implementing voter ID laws again?

I never got the fascination of Republicans with the whole voter ID thing. Every time I go and vote, they already have my name, address and everything on record.

Whatever floats peoples boat.

What's the point of showing ID when I go the airport? Every time I go and fly, they already have my name, address and everything on record.

Yeah, and why do we need to register our guns? Hell, why do we even need a government?

As long as someone has my name down on a piece of paper, we obviously do not need any government.

Soros donated $1 Million to Clinton already - do we need to know any more about this feminist SJW serial cleptocrat?

Democrats far behind GOP in raising money for '16 super PACs

Clinton’s supporters raise $15M while Bush supporters raised $103M

Clinton would appear to be a candidate readily able to land million-dollar donors to a super PAC backing her candidacy. She has more than two-dozen years in the presidential spotlight, dating to her husband’s first run for the White House, and strong ties to big-money power bases on Wall Street, in Hollywood and among organized labor.

And some of the top donors in Democratic politics have given massive checks to Priorities, including entertainment executive Haim Saban, whose $2 million gift makes him the largest donor to the super PAC so far, and hedge fund billionaire George Soros at $1 million.

But while Priorities collected from about 30 donors in the first six months of the year, the super PAC helping Republican candidate Jeb Bush persuaded 9,900 contributors to give a record haul of $103 million. Bush’s super PAC also has more than a dozen contributors who have given at least $1 million, with the top donor, Miami health care investor Miguel “Mike” Fernandez, giving $3 million.

The bottom lines for super PACs backing four other GOP contenders: $38 million for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, $26 million for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, $16 million for Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and $16.8 million for former Texas Gov. Rick Perry — who may not have the poll numbers needed to make the top 10 cutoff for the first GOP debate.

Trump is not impressed.

(08-01-2015 01:47 PM)SupaDorkLooza Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:02 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I just want Trump to stay in as long as possible to help wake up more young men. If we can get enough young men to wake up, maybe we can peacefully get women out of the voting booth and get the country back on the right track.

How?
Do you think it'll be this easy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1J8uX9_-Bg

Not at all. As long as women continue to vote, society will continue to stray off the path of normal/productive and into chaos. Women are the majority of voters, and women's minds simply are not designed for such decisions. Sure a few women here and there are designed to do so, but the % of women who can logically make choices over being swayed with emotion is very low.

So either we will get women out of the voting booth, or at least most of them, in a some what peaceful manner. Or we will wait until their voting collapses society and we have to pick up the pieces in a much more violent/chaotic fashion and try to put things back together.

(08-01-2015 01:15 AM)Dusty Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 01:09 AM)Slim Shady Wrote:  I've tried very hard to get to know Trump better as a candidate in the last few weeks, but he fails to rise higher than number 2 in my personal poll.

I think a lot of people are getting emotionally swayed by his jerkboy charm and getting away from real issues and solutions.

Due process and constitutional rights aren't just Tea Party talking points. These are the real things that will make sure men accused of false rape in colleges will be saved. Freedom is the ultimate thing for a man. I might even say it is higher than life itself. Live free or die.

Trump is certainly saying a lot of things that desperately needed to be said, be he is not saying all of the things that need to be said. He is only saying some of the important things very loudly.

In my mind there is no candidate except Rand Paul. Trump, however, is better than any of the others. If you have ever been arrested, or faced any sort of false accusation, you will hopefully see where I am coming from. The police state, which is very much related to feminism, is the biggest threat to us all.

I hope that the forum gets disillusioned of the pathos in the coming months.

Rand Paul would be the best candidate if every voting citizen in the US had half a brain and if the last book they read was more than 'whatever was mandatory reading in high school', harry potter of 50 shades of grey. He is an intelligent person's candidate and just makes too much damn sense for your average joe.

Trump, I don't think is as sharp as Rand, but i think is sharp enough but has something that Rand doesn't. Machismo, a favorite term of Mussolini. Its raw leadership charisma that gets the votes of women and mouth breathers. Rand doesn't have it, he's too smart and I would venture comes across as condescending to someone's who has an intellectual diet of facebook and the bachelor tv series.

Well if that's what you want, certainly Republicans aren't delivering any of that, so I'm glad we can cheer on their demise.

Iowa State Fair Press Conference.

He's batting 1000:

Trump is a badass.

Hopefully, he goes all the way.