Damn, this thread moves fast! I got busy for a couple of days, woke up this morning, and found myself more than 150 pages behind. I've been reading most of the day, and am still 105 pages behind.

If it hasn't been posted yet, there's a new "Can't Stump The Trump" out today:

(03-16-2016 05:45 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  Some heroes don't wear capes

(03-16-2016 10:03 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Scott Adams on Trump vs Clinton: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/14114658921...rsus-trump

Quote:Prediction: I predicted on Twitter that Trump would solve his “third act problem” (of being an accused racist) by going to the high ground of love. He already says he loves his supporters, and he loves his family, and wounded veterans, and his country. But that won’t be enough. To solve for being an accused racist he would need to say he loves the groups that hate him. And he would have to say it often.

Why would people believe Trump? Simple. Racists can’t say in public that they love the people they really hate. They can’t sell that kind of lie, so they would avoid the situation entirely. On some level you know that.

So expect some love coming soon. That’s the ultimate high ground. You can’t mock it and you can’t top it.

This is the single most perceptive thing I've read from this guy. The ludicrous idea that Trump is some kind of racist or bigot will be destroyed in the general election when he says with emphasis and feeling: "I love blacks", "I love hispanics" -- and very obviously means it. The heads of SJW pundits will be spinning so f'ing fast that they will be at risk of detaching from their thin necks and taking unseemly and miserable flight.

"Love" is the hardest word to use in the English language and Trump owns it like few others. He can say "I love you Ohio" or "I love you Alabama", or (distributing it) "we love our veterans" and it sounds right and natural every single time. It's a deadly weapon that no one else in the arena possesses; and it goes a long way towards explaining the Trump supporters' amazing devotion to him which you can see in the rallies he very correctly refers to as "lovefests". The media commentariat is, as always, deaf and blind and exactly wrong about everything.

The reason that Trump has any kind of chance in this election -- not necessarily a great chance, but a real chance -- is that, in addition to bringing out the blue collar whites who are his base, he will do far better with minorities, blacks in particular, than anyone imagines. He will do significantly better with Hispanics than current polls show.

The really tough part of the electorate for Trump -- and Adams covers this in the first half of his post, but his argument there is less convincing -- is going to be women, particularly unmarried women of all ages. They will back the Hag in overwhelming numbers and they will be very tough to sway with rhetoric and persuasion of any kind. Trump will need to show rhetorical brilliance, deftness and shamelessness that go beyond anything he's done so far to make real inroads with that crew. I'll be fascinated to see what strategy will be attempted with them.

Do not be surprised by any degree of Trump pandering to women in the general election, no matter how shameless and over the top; it should always be instantly excused and even applauded because without doing it and then doubling down and tripling down on it there is no chance of winning at all.

(03-16-2016 06:11 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 10:03 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Scott Adams on Trump vs Clinton: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/14114658921...rsus-trump

Quote:Prediction: I predicted on Twitter that Trump would solve his “third act problem” (of being an accused racist) by going to the high ground of love. He already says he loves his supporters, and he loves his family, and wounded veterans, and his country. But that won’t be enough. To solve for being an accused racist he would need to say he loves the groups that hate him. And he would have to say it often.

Why would people believe Trump? Simple. Racists can’t say in public that they love the people they really hate. They can’t sell that kind of lie, so they would avoid the situation entirely. On some level you know that.

So expect some love coming soon. That’s the ultimate high ground. You can’t mock it and you can’t top it.

This is the single most perceptive thing I've read from this guy. The ludicrous idea that Trump is some kind of racist or bigot will be destroyed in the general election when he says with emphasis and feeling: "I love blacks", "I love hispanics" -- and very obviously means it. The heads of SJW pundits will be spinning so f'ing fast that they will be at risk of detaching from their thin necks and taking unseemly and miserable flight.

"Love" is the hardest word to use in the English language and Trump owns it like few others. He can say "I love you Ohio" or "I love you Alabama", or (distributing it) "we love our veterans" and it sounds right and natural every single time. It's a deadly weapon that no one else in the arena possesses; and it goes a long way towards explaining the Trump supporters' amazing devotion to him which you can see in the rallies he very correctly refers to as "lovefests". The media commentariat is, as always, deaf and blind and exactly wrong about everything.

The reason that Trump has any kind of chance in this election -- not necessarily a great chance, but a real chance -- is that, in addition to bringing out the blue collar whites who are his base, he will do far better with minorities, blacks in particular, than anyone imagines. He will do significantly better with Hispanics than current polls show.

The really tough part of the electorate for Trump -- and Adams covers this in the first half of his post, but his argument there is less convincing -- is going to be women, particularly unmarried women of all ages. They will back the Hag in overwhelming numbers and they will be very tough to sway with rhetoric and persuasion of any kind. Trump will need to show rhetorical brilliance, deftness and shamelessness that go beyond anything he's done so far to make real inroads with that crew. I'll be fascinated to see what strategy will be attempted with them.

Do not be surprised by any degree of Trump pandering to women in the general election, no matter how shameless and over the top; it should always be instantly excused and even applauded because without doing it and then doubling down and tripling down on it there is no chance of winning at all.

(03-16-2016 06:11 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  "Love" is the hardest word to use in the English language and Trump owns it like few others.

The composer Quincy Jones once said that the motive for every human action can be reduced down to one of two emotions: fear or love. Trump's actions are motivated by the latter, his opponents' actions are motivated by the former. They don't stand a chance against Trump.

lol

Slate listed Trump's first believers who saw his rise early, including Mike Cernovich, Scott Adams and Mika.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2...xpert.html

Trump on the Jimmy Fallon Show: "Last time Hillary talked about me, I talked about her, and guess what, she suddenly stopped talking about me... And believe me, I haven't even started on Hillary yet!"

Trump taking on Hillary will be epic!

Actually, I see Donald VS Hillary as kind of a Djokovic VS Navratilova match: a very alpha, fun and cool hyper-energetic guy Versus a tired old lesbian... Guess who'll win 6-0 6-0?

(03-16-2016 06:47 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  Slate listed Trump's early believers who saw his rise early, including Mike Cernovich, Scott Adams and Mika.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2...xpert.html

I called it definitively in October. Ah, if only I'd done so a bit earlier.

To my knowledge, I'm one of the few "political people" to have called it prior to December.

(03-16-2016 04:27 PM)big poppa Wrote:  I'm a bit disappointed about the debate cancellation. Would have been a good opportunity for Trump and Cruz to go at Kasich about how he can't mathematically win and to GTFO of the way. Make it clear he is scamming the American people of their right to choose their leader.

Keeping Kasich in the race may actually help Trump, by preventing the anti-Trump votes from consolidating under Lying Ted.

https://www.rt.com/usa/335866-soros-demo...-election/

Quote:George Soros pumping millions into Democrats, alarmed by Trump’s rise

Multi-billionaire investor George Soros is pouring money into the race for the White House, particularly supporting Hillary Clinton, saying he’s alarmed by the rise of Donald Trump.

Having shattered political spending records in 2004, donating a whopping $27 million in an attempt to oust then-president George W Bush, Soros is now returning to form when it comes to political donations to try and stop the return of a Republican to the White House.

Soros has described the presidential campaigns of Trump and Texas Senator Ted Cruz as “deeply offensive,” primarily due to their “intense anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric.”
“There should be consequences for the outrageous statements and proposals that we've regularly heard from candidates Trump and Cruz,” said Soros, Bloomberg reported.
The statement echoes previous remarks by the 85-year-old, who told Bloomberg in January that “Donald Trump is doing the work of ISIS.”

Soros went on to describe Trump’s actions, as well as those of Cruz, as “fear mongering” and that ultimately it will lead to a “landslide for Hillary Clinton.”

He has committed over $13 million this year to Democrats, with the single biggest contribution being $7 million to Priorities USA, the main super-PAC behind Clinton. He donated $6 million to the same group in December.

Although Soros’ donations this election cycle have already surpassed those he made during the 2008 and 2012 campaigns, there is no single reason for the increase in spending, the billionaire’s spokesman, Michael Vachon, said.

"His support of Clinton is one reason. The tone of the other candidates is the other," Vachon said.

Soros, who is worth about $24 billion, has also donated up to $6 million to the Clinton Foundation through his Open Society Institute and Soros Foundation over recent years.

(03-16-2016 06:54 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 06:47 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  Slate listed Trump's early believers who saw his rise early, including Mike Cernovich, Scott Adams and Mika.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2...xpert.html

I called it definitively in October. Ah, if only I'd done so a bit earlier.

To my knowledge, I'm one of the few "political people" to have called it prior to December.

I liked Trump since the first time I saw his speech, that is, his announcement speech entering the contest. Blown away by his refreshing candor. Then I realized he's a skilled master of rhetoric and strategy, and predicted he'll win. This was as soon as August, but I was not a RVF member by then yet and had nothing to prove except my Facebook chatlog with a centrist friend.

Here is part of our (amateurish) discusion, in case anyone is interested:

(03-16-2016 07:18 PM)Mr. D Wrote:  https://www.rt.com/usa/335866-soros-demo...-election/

Quote:George Soros pumping millions into Democrats, alarmed by Trump’s rise

Multi-billionaire investor George Soros is pouring money into the race for the White House, particularly supporting Hillary Clinton, saying he’s alarmed by the rise of Donald Trump.

Having shattered political spending records in 2004, donating a whopping $27 million in an attempt to oust then-president George W Bush, Soros is now returning to form when it comes to political donations to try and stop the return of a Republican to the White House.

Soros has described the presidential campaigns of Trump and Texas Senator Ted Cruz as “deeply offensive,” primarily due to their “intense anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric.”
“There should be consequences for the outrageous statements and proposals that we've regularly heard from candidates Trump and Cruz,” said Soros, Bloomberg reported.
The statement echoes previous remarks by the 85-year-old, who told Bloomberg in January that “Donald Trump is doing the work of ISIS.”

Soros went on to describe Trump’s actions, as well as those of Cruz, as “fear mongering” and that ultimately it will lead to a “landslide for Hillary Clinton.”

He has committed over $13 million this year to Democrats, with the single biggest contribution being $7 million to Priorities USA, the main super-PAC behind Clinton. He donated $6 million to the same group in December.

Although Soros’ donations this election cycle have already surpassed those he made during the 2008 and 2012 campaigns, there is no single reason for the increase in spending, the billionaire’s spokesman, Michael Vachon, said.

"His support of Clinton is one reason. The tone of the other candidates is the other," Vachon said.

Soros, who is worth about $24 billion, has also donated up to $6 million to the Clinton Foundation through his Open Society Institute and Soros Foundation over recent years.

When this piece of shit finally dies i'm going to go buy the most expensive bottle of whiskey I can afford and then have a party.

A significant amount of Soros' fortune came from shorting currencies (especially in the developing world) and arbitraging positions from banking collapses and foreign government debt.

Soros claims Trump is doing the work of ISIS yet he's 100% for opening up borders to more muslim migration elsewhere. Does this make any sense?

He's pumped money into insurrection groups to destabalize eastern europe and other nations. This is why Russia wants his ass on a platter.

He supports the Clinton wing of the Dems because they are establishment and deeply zionist. They will follow his script. In other words they aren't altogether different from the Republican neo-con establishment. Dem establishment = Soros. Republican establishment = Koch bros.

673 delegates now according to this site.. I'd say we're in there. My prediction is Trump gets the 1237 needed.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...count.html

(03-16-2016 07:43 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  673 delegates now according to this site.. I'd say we're in there. My prediction is Trump gets the 1237 needed.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...count.html

Agree. When they finished counting he'll probably be at 685-690. He's sufficiently on track.
Even if he only 98-99% of the delegates needed, that's strong enough demand for the nomination. Riot will happen if the nomination is not given to him by then.

(03-16-2016 07:18 PM)Mr. D Wrote:  Soros has described the presidential campaigns of Trump and Texas Senator Ted Cruz as “deeply offensive,” primarily due to their “intense anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric.”

Where have we heard that a person or group is "deeply offended" as a reason to prohibit anything or oppress other groups before?

Perhaps anti-Trump rhetoric is "deeply offensive".

The language of their game needs to be snatched away from them.

Anyone have the meme of Ben Carson in his pajamas and the hat?
The "You've been visited by the Sleepy Doctor" one.

Lying Ted at it again.

On with Kelly right now claiming Trump is scared, he's ducking the debate and is running and hiding from the challenge of facing him.

Thought I would add this piece I saw on how even the Founding Fathers used insults during their Presidential campaigns:

Thomas Jefferson on John Adams:

Quote:"a hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

John Adams on Jefferson:

Quote:"a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

Quote:As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward.

Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."

(03-16-2016 08:08 PM)rainy Wrote:  Lying Ted at it again.

On with Kelly right now claiming Trump is scared, he's ducking the debate and is running and hiding from the challenge of facing him.

LOL. Is he going to call Kucksich a coward as well?

(03-16-2016 02:05 PM)weambulance Wrote:  Eat a dick, Shep.

Shep says that he's way, way ahead of you; since he's been 16.

I think we need more discussion (in a separate thread) on Trump's tax plan, by those who understand economics.

Samseau? scorpion? Who are the econ guys in here?

I have the news on in the background and the clucking hens are saying that Trump's tax plan will increase taxes on those making $50,000 a year by $300 per month, and that it will give the rich a huge tax break, and give us the largest deficit in history.

They then also went on to say that Cruz wants to introduce a flat tax, and inferred that he's the only one with this idea, even though Trump's plan is a flat tax.

Now, I know from reading on this thread that Trump's flat tax will not benefit the rich, nor will it create such a huge deficit, because he will be closing so many deductions and legal loopholes that the rich/elite will end up paying more taxes because of it. Or at least that's how I understand it.

I think if a few of you guys who really understand economics and his tax plan post here in the Trump policy thread (https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-54477.html) like Handsome Creepy Eel did it would go a long way in educating those of us who have not studied much economics.

I know this will be one of the main topics of discussion when I see my homo Bernie Sanders friends, so I'd like to understand the topic better.

Props to HCE for this: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-54477.html

(03-16-2016 03:14 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  An effective taxation policy is where Donald Trump excels and will make a big difference. In order to be effective, such a policy must be done in a smart way - and that automatically excludes atrocities like a 90% tax on anyone making over $200k or a 50% corporate tax.

Low-hanging fruit like corporate tax would be the easiest to pick. It is well known (although not nearly enough) that many major corporations pay almost no taxes. While the corporate tax rate is nominally at 35%, the average corporation pays just 13%, with the largest corporation paying even less. Furthermore, 90% of all corporations (including 15 Fortune companies) pay no taxes at all!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/...fed5654e2f
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/...eed94052c4
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/04/09...Taxes-2014

Let's examine one of the most famous tax evaders: Apple. Apple might be the most famous and valuable corporation we have ever known, but it has paid ZERO taxes for years now. To pay that zero, Apple engages in many shenanigans and wastes a ton of its money to cycle it around the globe. It has subsidiaries in Ireland, Asia, Caribbean islands and practically everywhere you can imagine. This allows it to, using various tax loopholes, present all of its income as "foreign" and not subject to taxation.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/leesheppard/...0df226d6f7

But why does Apple go through all those shenanigans? Well, obviously because the corporate tax rate of 35% is highly discouraging and makes if profitable. Even if you spend 30% to save the remaining 5%, you've still profited enormously.

Now imagine if the following exchange happened:

President Donald Trump: "Hey guys, come here and pay 15%, and you can stop engaging in those stupid shenanigans and wasting your money while hiding it."
Apple: "That's an attractive offer, but we need to think about it.
President Donald Trump: "By the way, if you refuse, we're going to slap your products with a 40% import tariff."
Apple: "..."
Apple: "We accept."

Result: Apples starts paying $8 billion/year in taxes instead of the 0 that it's paying now. Then apply the same method to companies like Ford, Nabisco, Google, Boeing... the potential is enormous.

Right now, the Cost/Benefit ratio of taxation is all screwed up. Paying taxes is very expensive and unrewarding. Avoiding taxes is very cheap and easy. If we upend it - if the prospect of paying taxes becomes easy/rewarding, and the prospect of not paying taxes becomes a terrible bet with severe consequences - you can bet that corporations will suddenly rediscover their zeal for being legal and obedient taxpayers.

Turn the motivation around and watch the tax receipts soar.

And this is not to even mention the increased employment and investment from companies suddenly having the motivation to operate plainly in the USA instead of God-knows-where in order to hide their manufacturing and R&D hubs and claim their income is "foreign". Major economic stimulus.

Other than this, Trump also has huge potential to reduce the outrageous federal expenditure that is spent on ridiculous stuff pushed by lobbyists. The prime example here is the famous F-35 lightning, whose cost has "unexplainably" climbed close to $2 trillion (whereas Russia's equivalent program will cost a few hundred million). Imagine how much you can save on healthcare, energy, farming subsidies and all other stuff if they are no longer controlled by lobbyists. The possibilities are simple staggering.

All we need is the will to try and Donald Trump, a candidate who doesn't accept campaign contributions from corporations and is not beholden to them.

Sorry if already posted, but TRUMP adds 3 swaggy delegates in Alaska after Rubio drops out. Lots of cuckservatives are butthurt about this since Cruz won the state handily but Trump now gets as many total delegates from AK (14) as does Lyin Ted.

http://www.alaskagop.org/delegate_count_...9ueskitjoa

(03-18-2016 09:54 AM)Patriarch Wrote:  Requiem you didn't like the latest one? I thought it was great, non-stop ripping on Yeb and Rubot. They will live on in our memories.

The funny thing about Volume 1 and 2 especially was the sheer number of people talking smack and then having to quit. Volume 3 was good also but it only had 3 people dropping out (naturally) and didn't seem as good to me personally as I've already seen all the scenes used numerous times in various other videos. I still like it though, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it.

(03-18-2016 06:10 AM)Aristotle Wrote:  Now that it's almost certain that Trump will be the candidate who goes against Hillary Clinton in the General Election, I'm going to preemptively start a thread on Trump Vs Hillary.

This thread will be somewhat of a combination of both the Donald Trump and Hillary threads. It's focus will be about comments they make about each other, and eventually focus on the debate highlights that occur leading up to the general election.

Any comments, memes, videos, attack ads, etc related to either The Donald hitting Hilary or vice versa are welcome here. I hope this thread grows and rivals the #HIGHENERGY of the Donald Trump thread, and provides all of us with much laughter, as well as ammunition to persuade Hillary supporters and undecided voters in the upcoming general election.

Without further ado:

Why did Hillary Clinton bark?

Because Wall Street told her to, and now she gets a treat