I re-read some of the thread. Linux did a lot of online (tinder) game his first weeks in Columbia. Online game is all about written communication and setting up the initial date. I am sure he's got some good "one-liners" to pick these sluts off of Tinder that he is not sharing with us.

I am at the gate and about to board in a few minutes so that's a wrap on Colombia. I am fairly certain my final notch count is 27.

Cali: 2 - 1 Nightgame (Yeah! culture night), 1 Tinder
Medellin: 1 - Social Circle
Barranquilla: 5 - 4 Tinder, 1 Nightgame (Frogs) from Carnival but laid next trip
Bogota: 19 - 1 ONS threesome nightgame (GTs), 8 ONS nightgame (GTs, Hotel V, Irish Bar, Misc), 9 Tinder

No Daygame lays but a few make outs. Had some form of main girl for nearly all of my trip which kept my new notch count down a bit but I prefer that. Spending time with my main girls was probably the most enjoyable part of my trip. New notches are fun but I love spending time with a girl you already know well - eating food, laughing all day, great sex and just chilling out. I think one girl will be visiting me in Ireland and another in Canada later this year.

As a whole I love Colombia. It is a very enjoyable country to spend some time in and the people in general are friendly are highly amusing. The music is good, the food is cheap and tasty and the women are beautiful. Great place for working online or taking time off from a demanding lifestyle to recover.

The guys I have met off the forum down here has also been a great experience. Some of the most driven, smartest and friendliest guys I have ever met. I learned a lot from watching their game, talks on business and life and just general exposure. One or two guys I didn't get to meet but hopefully another time or place. Thanks to all the guys who did take time to meet up.

That's it for now. I might chime back in on specific questions but I think this thread has covered nearly everything already.

(06-11-2015 01:39 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  I am at the gate and about to board in a few minutes so that's a wrap on Colombia. I am fairly certain my final notch count is 27.

Cali: 2 - 1 Nightgame (Yeah! culture night), 1 Tinder
Medellin: 1 - Social Circle
Barranquilla: 5 - 4 Tinder, 1 Nightgame (Frogs) from Carnival but laid next trip
Bogota: 19 - 1 ONS threesome nightgame (GTs), 8 ONS nightgame (GTs, Hotel V, Irish Bar, Misc), 9 Tinder

No Daygame lays but a few make outs. Had some form of main girl for nearly all of my trip which kept my new notch count down a bit but I prefer that. Spending time with my main girls was probably the most enjoyable part of my trip. New notches are fun but I love spending time with a girl you already know well - eating food, laughing all day, great sex and just chilling out. I think one girl will be visiting me in Ireland and another in Canada later this year.

As a whole I love Colombia. It is a very enjoyable country to spend some time in and the people in general are friendly are highly amusing. The music is good, the food is cheap and tasty and the women are beautiful. Great place for working online or taking time off from a demanding lifestyle to recover.

The guys I have met off the forum down here has also been a great experience. Some of the most driven, smartest and friendliest guys I have ever met. I learned a lot from watching their game, talks on business and life and just general exposure. One or two guys I didn't get to meet but hopefully another time or place. Thanks to all the guys who did take time to meet up.

That's it for now. I might chime back in on specific questions but I think this thread has covered nearly everything already.

Atlantic, Im curious in which city you think, there was the most high quality women available. Where would you go, if you were forced to pick one city in Colombia for girls.

Last night was the first time in a nightclub in years where I had take a few steps away from the crowd, smoke my cigar, and realize where exactly I was.

Where I wasn't was Colombia. I found myself looking around the crowd for a Colombian or Venezuelan, but the most I could find was a chubby Mexican who didn't speak Spanish. I'm hearing all these conversations around me, the annoyance is overwhelming me. One girl is complaining about a guy following her around, another girl is crying for some unknown reason, and two other are talking about how hard their job is as a hairstylist . A guy taps me on the shoulder and says, "Can I bum a smoke for my buddy?" I say, "No" and turn away.

I could probably take home any one of these women but I don't want to. I throw down my whiskey and I pull out my cellphone. I take a look at my messages and it was just as I expected.

"Linux I miss you,"
"Linux, Are you still in Colombia, I want to make you dinner."
"Linux, I want to be laying my head on your chest right now."

I look back up from my cell phone and take a gaze at the street and see one man pissing on the side of the building and another two are getting into a fight. I look over at my boy Jay and tell him, " Man, I got to buy that house in Colombia and get the fuck out of here." He throws down his beer and says , "Me too dude, me too."

My heart is in Cali, Atlantic's heart is in Bogota, and Newgame's heart is in Medellin. No matter what city it is, Colombia is our home now.

I feel you man. My heart is in SEA.

This is why I'm hustling towards making enough independent income to get the fuck out of here.

(06-12-2015 12:40 PM)LINUX Wrote:  Last night was the first time in a nightclub in years where I had take a few steps away from the crowd, smoke my cigar, and realize where exactly I was.

Where I wasn't was Colombia. I found myself looking around the crowd for a Colombian or Venezuelan, but the most I could find was a chubby Mexican who didn't speak Spanish. I'm hearing all these conversations around me, the annoyance is overwhelming me. One girl is complaining about a guy following her around, another girl is crying for some unknown reason, and two other are talking about how hard their job is as a hairstylist . A guy taps me on the shoulder and says, "Can I bum a smoke for my buddy?" I say, "No" and turn away.

I could probably take home any one of these women but I don't want to. I throw down my whiskey and I pull out my cellphone. I take a look at my messages and it was just as I expected.

"Linux I miss you,"
"Linux, Are you still in Colombia, I want to make you dinner."
"Linux, I want to be laying my head on your chest right now."

I look back up from my cell phone and take a gaze at the street and see one man pissing on the side of the building and another two are getting into a fight. I look over at my boy Jay and tell him, " Man, I got to buy that house in Colombia and get the fuck out of here." He throws down his beer and says , "Me too dude, me too."

My heart is in Cali, Atlantic's heart is in Bogota, and Newgame's heart is in Medellin. No matter what city it is, Colombia is our home now.

Man. That was heavy.

Great writing too.

Fuck it. I'm coming to Colombia next summer.

You immersed yourself in America's cultural sewer pit too fast. Like a deep sea diver getting the bends from coming to the surface too fast.

(06-11-2015 03:27 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Atlantic, I'm curious in which city you think, there was the most high quality women available. Where would you go, if you were forced to pick one city in Colombia for girls.

For me its Bogota. I think it does have the largest amount of hot girls. A quick walk around Chapinero or Zona T and you see a huge volume of talent. Medellin and other cities probably have the same or maybe higher quality of talent but not the quantity. I am taking about the sheer number of 8+ girls.

Quantity helps with demand and I think that works its wys down to lots of little behaviors: ease of ONS, attitude of the girls, flakiness etc. Bogota girls in general treat you very well and put up very little drama. Any girl I had issues with was from somewhere else.

In other cities there is a higher percentage of guys with game and a lower percentage of quality girls. It makes it more competitive and the girls more in demand. If you got good Spanish, connections and some bank roll you can lessen that competition but it still exists.

In Bogota there are a lot of foreigners but most are there for professional work (busy office types) or they are cheap ass backpackers staying in hostels. The volume of guys with game, time on their hands and a decent playboy lifestyle is pretty minimal. There is a huge group of girls available for a guy who has his shit together.

Ironically Bogota also has the lowest barrier to entry with zero Spanish needed and a very manageable city for getting around. I feel like I should be on the Bogota tourism board but for girls I do think its the nicest city. As far as weather, things to do, air pollution and cost of living it doesn't fare so well though.

On a side note I got grilled coming back through security in Toronto last night. Three bag searches and two full back room interviews. I fit the exact profile: late twenties, Irish, visa nearly up for Canada, 4 months in Colombia, technically unemployed, no real reason to be traveling and strange travel patterns. In the end all was good but I got a decent interrogation.

We all want you to go back to Colombia too.

Your posts give the impression to me that you are very honest Linux, and I think that is a part of your game too. Women connect to your honesty, women make connections easily, and honesty or authenticity facilitates the connection.

Thanks to all the RVF guys who have been in Colombia for making this an inspirational thread.

(06-11-2015 01:39 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  As a whole I love Colombia. It is a very enjoyable country to spend some time in and the people in general are friendly are highly amusing. The music is good, the food is cheap and tasty and the women are beautiful. Great place for working online or taking time off from a demanding lifestyle to recover.

Colombian food is neither tasty, nor healthy, and not even that cheap in most places, particularly Bogota. Next time I'm down there I'm getting a place with a decent kitchen and cooking for myself getting some chicas to cook me dinner.

Props to LINUX and all the guys contributing to this epic thread. You guys are simply awesome!

Colombia is definitely on my list. Pre-arranged plans to travel there next year!

RedGuard

(06-12-2015 04:19 PM)getdownonit Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:39 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  As a whole I love Colombia. It is a very enjoyable country to spend some time in and the people in general are friendly are highly amusing. The music is good, the food is cheap and tasty and the women are beautiful. Great place for working online or taking time off from a demanding lifestyle to recover.

Colombian food is neither tasty, nor healthy, and not even that cheap in most places, particularly Bogota. Next time I'm down there I'm getting a place with a decent kitchen and cooking for myself getting some chicas to cook me dinner.

You got to find the good home cooked stuff. Good healthy soup, some grilled Chicken or Pork, lots of vegetables and fruits. Also the juices are delicious. Most places are terrible but if you find a good spot it can be very cheap and quite tasty.

(06-12-2015 01:16 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 03:27 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Atlantic, I'm curious in which city you think, there was the most high quality women available. Where would you go, if you were forced to pick one city in Colombia for girls.

For me its Bogota. I think it does have the largest amount of hot girls. A quick walk around Chapinero or Zona T and you see a huge volume of talent. Medellin and other cities probably have the same or maybe higher quality of talent but not the quantity. I am taking about the sheer number of 8+ girls.

Quantity helps with demand and I think that works its wys down to lots of little behaviors: ease of ONS, attitude of the girls, flakiness etc. Bogota girls in general treat you very well and put up very little drama. Any girl I had issues with was from somewhere else.

In other cities there is a higher percentage of guys with game and a lower percentage of quality girls. It makes it more competitive and the girls more in demand. If you got good Spanish, connections and some bank roll you can lessen that competition but it still exists.

In Bogota there are a lot of foreigners but most are there for professional work (busy office types) or they are cheap ass backpackers staying in hostels. The volume of guys with game, time on their hands and a decent playboy lifestyle is pretty minimal. There is a huge group of girls available for a guy who has his shit together.

Ironically Bogota also has the lowest barrier to entry with zero Spanish needed and a very manageable city for getting around. I feel like I should be on the Bogota tourism board but for girls I do think its the nicest city. As far as weather, things to do, air pollution and cost of living it doesn't fare so well though.

Atlantic, I have never given Bogota a real try, mainly because of logistics and the supposed rolo attitude, that is infamous in all of Colombia.
As a foreign man with some bankroll, under 35 and without fluent spanish, Bogota is the obvious choice.
Though, I still think for an over 35 man with fluent spanish and who isnt white, there are better options than Bogota. But unless I stay a month there, I cant say for sure.
Great thread, and I think you guys have proven that Colombia, is the best country to live in Latin America, and still in the top 5 in the world.

(06-12-2015 01:06 PM)Dusty Wrote:  You immersed yourself in America's cultural sewer pit too fast. Like a deep sea diver getting the bends from coming to the surface too fast.

Couldn't of said it better myself man.

My buddy is off to Cuba next month, lord I wish I could join him.

Tinder has made Bogotá much easier than before. Now a good-looking guy can easily have 2 or 3 dates scheduled a day. Closing those dates is up to game, but it's overwhelmingly challenging.

I remember when I was in Bogotá in early 2014 and there were 30 girls total on Tinder. Tinder back then was like Tinder in Tegucigalpa today.

(06-12-2015 04:19 PM)getdownonit Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:39 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  As a whole I love Colombia. It is a very enjoyable country to spend some time in and the people in general are friendly are highly amusing. The music is good, the food is cheap and tasty and the women are beautiful. Great place for working online or taking time off from a demanding lifestyle to recover.

Colombian food is neither tasty, nor healthy, and not even that cheap in most places, particularly Bogota. Next time I'm down there I'm getting a place with a decent kitchen and cooking for myself getting some chicas to cook me dinner.

It depends, you can find the cheap local places serving menu del dia for 8-10.000 pesos and the dishes are relatively healthy, they will definitely fill you up but of course its Colombian food so its a bit bland. You are right though, eating out at the better restaurants, even at the malls, can be a bit pricey down there. My issue with a lot of the rental apartments I found down there was that non of them had an oven, I tried to buy a slow cooker down there but no one knew what I was talking about, in the Exito stroe they had over a dozen different rice cookers but no slow cookers!

^ Start renting better places. I'm sure there's Canadian grocery/pharm stores down there you can buy all the poontine gravy you want.

How bad is the food really? Dominican food is awesome. They use the same cuts for every meat dish. Say you order a sirloin steak? The beat it for 2 minutes then change your order to filet? Beat for two more lol.

(06-12-2015 06:03 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  ^ Start renting better places. I'm sure there's Canadian grocery/pharm stores down there you can buy all the poontine gravy you want.

How bad is the food really? Dominican food is awesome. They use the same cuts for every meat dish. Say you order a sirloin steak? The beat it for 2 minutes then change your order to filet? Beat for two more lol.

There are better places but they were a bit out of my budget, for example, the place I rented in Cali was 1.2 million pesos ($475 USD) which was decent, I would have paid more for something a bit nicer but there really wasn't much in the city for under $1000 USD which was over budget. Actually in Cali a guy could probably make some decent money by renting out a few apartments, furnishing them and renting short term to foreigners, there's lots of rentals like that in Medellin but its really lacking in Cali. As far as food goes, there's lots of healthy options and good meat, chicken and fish to buy at the markets but again, the apartments I rented didn't have very good utensils and appliances so I ended up eating out a lot.

I spent most of my life in the gym throwing down shitty tiliapa, dry oatmeal, and liquid egg whites. I thought the food in Colombia was great.

Sure, some of it is tasty and healthy, but the majority is fried - fried meats, chicharron, fried empanadas, fried potatoes including french fries as well as fried mashed potato cubes, fried corn arepas, just not stuff you want to be eating often. Eating out all the time would get repetitive compared to cooking for yourself. Any exito or la catorce will have quality and variety of cheap fruit and vegetables, which you rarely get in a restaurant. It's rare to get more than two bites of shredded cabbage and probably some potatoes which are almost definitely fried.

Restaurant meat can be really poor quality, which you would avoid by shopping yourself.

Also, even the food courts at malls have painfully slow service and take forever to buzz you. I got some fish on a styrofoam plate at one of these joints, and the plate had partially melted and solidified back onto the fish. Not the healthiest meal if I had eaten it.

There are some very good places in Zona T but that's going to blow through your budget if you're eating there constantly.

There are definitely decent restaurants in Colombia, but there's so much upside to preparing your own meals there that it would be a priority for me to get a place where I could cook.

edit: If you like Colombian food, enjoy it, everyone has different taste. Personally, I'm a big fan of Colombia but the food is a negative in my book. I'd still go back and live in a house up in the mountains near Cali in a heartbeat.

(06-12-2015 06:32 PM)getdownonit Wrote:  There are definitely decent restaurants in Colombia, but there's so much upside to preparing your own meals there that it would be a priority for me to get a place where I could cook.

There's a forum member with a very low post count who is doing it right in Medellin. He spends $250 a month on a maid that goes to his place from 9-4 (or something like that) and prepares him breakfast, lunch, and dinner (to be heated up later). She does all the shopping for him and also keeps his place clean.

This seems like the ideal setup to me to avoid the restaurant cost and to also get a choice in your food. The markup on the food in restaurants is going to cost you more than paying a maid. Once I get settled in more permanantly, I plan to do the same.

(06-12-2015 07:04 PM)newgame Wrote:  [q

There's a forum member with a very low post count who is doing it right in Medellin. He spends $250 a month on a maid that goes to his place from 9-4 (or something like that) and prepares him breakfast, lunch, and dinner (to be heated up later). She does all the shopping for him and also keeps his place clean.

This seems like the ideal setup to me to avoid the restaurant cost and to also get a choice in your food. The markup on the food in restaurants is going to cost you more than paying a maid. Once I get settled in more permanantly, I plan to do the same.

Does that include the cost of groceries ?

(06-12-2015 07:07 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 07:04 PM)newgame Wrote:  [q

There's a forum member with a very low post count who is doing it right in Medellin. He spends $250 a month on a maid that goes to his place from 9-4 (or something like that) and prepares him breakfast, lunch, and dinner (to be heated up later). She does all the shopping for him and also keeps his place clean.

This seems like the ideal setup to me to avoid the restaurant cost and to also get a choice in your food. The markup on the food in restaurants is going to cost you more than paying a maid. Once I get settled in more permanantly, I plan to do the same.

Does that include the cost of groceries ?

No. He makes a shopping list or a list of meals he wants and then gives her the money to go buy groceries.

What he's paying her is the minimum wage in Colombia (600,000 cop more or less). Plus, he has a roommate, which makes it an even better deal.

(06-12-2015 01:30 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  Your posts give the impression to me that you are very honest Linux, and I think that is a part of your game too. Women connect to your honesty, women make connections easily, and honesty or authenticity facilitates the connection.

Lizard, your post really stuck out to me, because I immediately thought of this post from LINUX's original Cali thread:

(01-08-2015 08:54 PM)LINUX Wrote:  Lying:

Lie!! Lie about everything. Lie about your job, how many times you have been married, when your last relationship was, and what you are looking for. Don’t go to Colombia telling these women you work at Staples and came here to get laid. It’s very easy to pull off an Oncologist if you are in your 30’s, dress decent, and know how to shine your shoes and also tell them you are here for a job interview and you are looking for marriage. If you are looking for a relationship, you can be a little more genuine. I was just looking for lays. If they want to see a picture of your house, take one of the nicest house in your neighborhood and send it on whatsapp.

I also told most of these girls that I wanted them to have my children. The best pick up line is, “ I want my daughter to look just like you. “They had no problem having a unprotecting sex with me because I own 2 homes, makes 500,000 a year, and want to get married to them and have a family... Unfortunately, that was all bullshit because I don’t own a home, lucky if break 40k a year, and had a vasectomy a year ago. Oh well. Everyone lies.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-44032-...#pid926638

It appears to me that the backbone of dude's game is the opposite of honesty, it's extreme dishonesty.

Before I break that down, let me say, I live in a city where the women are highly superficial. What part of the city you live in matters to them. What car you drive matters to them. The brand of your shoes matters to them. Those are things that women notice and that you kind of want and need to have on point, especially when you're trying to pull the type of woman who would make you pinch yourself while you long stroke from the back because that moment she looks back at you, with the sweat glistening off her face as she is gritting her teeth and clutching whatever she can find with her hands, is the moment you realize you're fucking a type of woman that you thought only existed in a world afar, but at that moment, she's there in your bed, busting all over your dick.

There are plenty of men in my city who lie to women about being talent scouts, movie producers, photographers, and all other types of position in entertainment and other notable, sexy professions to try to get to pussy.

I myself have "fornicated on my status", especially when I was playing ball.

I often got invited to sex parties, was offered money to fuck dudes' wives and girlfriends, etc.

In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with running that type of game.

I feel like if a woman is going to give it up easier because she thinks she's fucking the "right guy", then it is what it is, because she's not fucking him solely because she wants to, she's doing it because she thinks that she can use the sex to get something that she wants out of it.

The Game is a dog-eat-dog game, and you better not be tamed.

LINUX is not a golden lab, he's a pitbull.

If he was what the Cuban people here call buena gente --good people -- then he wouldn't have as much success.

Good people here find their wives in high school. They literally become a part of their chick's family when they are teenagers. They go to the family barbecues on the weekends where they play salsa until the wee hours of the morning. They help pickup the little siblings from school. They do all the things that say, "I want to be here for the long haul, I want to be here for you."

Pitbulls are not playing that game.

Now, it's easy to misinterpret that game when there are inconsistent messages.

As Roosh noted, it's difficult for a guy to say convincingly that he isn't a hit it and quit it type of guy, yet he makes a concerted effort to get nearly 40 different lays in the span of two months, many of those lays coming on the same day, within hours of each other.

LINUX's trip was about getting as much pussy as he possibly could get in a the amount of time he had alloted -- he stated as much in the above quote.

Any assertions to the contrary are just straight up misconceptions, primarily due to ignorance of the facts.

Furthermore, there are suggestions of his game having some elements of hopeless romanticism, when again, that's just not the case.

I would go as far to say that LINUX is a dirty mack. There are a lot of elements to his game that are consistent to dirty mackin'. Dirty macks usually have deep histories of negative relationships with women who they were closest to, if you want to study dirty mackin' look up Usher's history with women, he's the Grand Poobah of Dirty Macks. At the end of the day, there isn't damn near anything that LINUX wouldn't say nor do, to get what he wants out of the game in the end. These interactions aren't about the women -- hopeless romantics get off on the highs of love and emotional connections -- they're about achieving the goals that he has set out for himself, one being to get lays.

It's one thing to tell a club rat at LIV that you're a producer for YMCMB while you max out your credit card on a couple of drinks. It's another thing to stage a life that you're not living, equipped with back stories and picture/video evidence, not only for the purpose of procuring sex, but to procure unprotected sex by presenting yourself as a lottery ticket, knowing all along that you can raw dog a chick, bust in her, and while she's hoping she might score and have a rich gringo's baby, you know you've had a vasectomy so unfortunately for her, she's holding a ticket that doesn't have any winning numbers.

That's the definition of dirty mackin'.

In fact, if dude wants to take his game and make some money off of it, he could write a book on dirty mackin'.

Now there are some who have already expressed criticism for the guy's efforts, and some who have criticism and have kept their words to themselves, and I can see exactly where they are coming from -- inconsistent messages will do that.

However, I've learned first-hand, that honesty in this game will have you at home with the baby lotion. Women themselves are not being honest, especially the ones who we're meeting out in the streets -- that includes dating websites. They make extreme efforts to present themselves as something they are not to get what they want out of the game. So it's understandable for a guy to take what women do naturally on a regular basis, and use it in his own way to take home court advantage and win the game.

A man in the Game has to make a decision, do you want to be good people or do you want to be good at getting what you want out of people?

Whichever path you choose will depend on what you want, the former will work for guys who can accept having a lower of number relationships as they strive for quality given their work and efforts, the latter will work for guys who are good at manipulating situations for their own gain from lower-quality, manipulative people who think they're the ones doing the conniving, only to find out that they're not playing the game, they're getting played.

A fisherman can always spot another fisherman from afar.