(08-11-2018 02:51 PM)Ogunn Wrote:(08-11-2018 04:21 AM)Noir Wrote: 99% of women are shit conversationalists and bad at flirting with intent. They're only good at responding to what you put out there
This is some serious gold.
I have noticed the hotter the girl. The more true this statement is.
(08-11-2018 12:40 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: *reads Noir's post*
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WIA
(08-10-2018 05:37 AM)papasco Wrote: Gentlemen
There you go with my contribution on Black Man Game Options.
I did some research trying to find out where my colour skin will not be an handicap on gaming (at least for the approach). You can agree or not and even though I’m proud to roll with this colour in this white world, I face - like most of the brothers - some discriminations just because I’m different.
Due to the recent migrant crisis in Europe, people will assume that you’re just another refugee until they know more about you… (Let’s be clear I’m not blaming the migrant, they’re just hustling trying to have lives!)
Of course rolling suit up can change people attitude towards you and I can see the looks I’m getting on my way to work, but to me it’s strange to hit a club with a suit especially when you have a dance game and you wear expensive suits. But I guess I’ll have to experiment it one day.
Anyway, I did some research trying to find out where in Europe, my skin color will not be an “handicap” on approaching and I find out a study from the European Union discrimination agency with some interesting findings.
Whether they have children or not, only 56% of European would feel totally comfortable if one of their children or potential children was in a love relationship with a black person.
In the meantime, 82% of them would feel totally comfortable if it’s with a white person.
I don’t know if you realize, but that’s a BIG difference.
Here is the top 5 of totally comfortable answers: Sweden, Netherlands, UK, France, Ireland
Here is the top 5 of totally uncomfortable answers: Slovakia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Cyprus
Focusing only on the delta between black and with person, the countries with the lowest difference are: Luxembourg, Sweden, UK, Netherlands and Denmark.
First thing I assumed seeing this is that it’s probably impacted by a high share of old people in the survey. So I look at the result per age group.
And to my big surprise not that big difference: 15-24 are comfortable for a black person at 65%, 25-39 at 59%, 40-54 at 58% and 55+ at 50%.
Then I checked the gender, assuming that maybe women were more open but disappointment again: men totally comfortable at 55% women totally comfortable at 57%.
There are plenty of additional interesting data but I will stop it here for now.
I don’t mean with this that we should all head to the Luxembourg, Sweden, UK, Netherlands, Denmark, France and Ireland and expect pussies paradises. But I can imagine that it should be easier for us to approach in these countries.
I’m French, I’ve visited all these countries except UK and Denmark and I can assure you that without game, nothing will happen.
BUT I think the gold mine is the flop 5. value. Their answer is for me the translation of their ignorance of what’s a black person and I can understand that people are scared of what they don’t know. Normally our exotic value should be higher in Slovakia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Cyprus.
I’ve only been to Czech Republic among these 5 but from now the other 4 will come on top of my list.
Have any of you ever been in any of these? How was the reception?
Additional notes:
- Unfortunately this study was conducted in 2015 and a lot of thing have change now. I think they will update the study this year so I look forward to seeing the results.
- This is based on declarative so it can just means that the top countries are the most hypocrite ones in Europe
- This is based on EU28. A lot of interesting Euro countries are missing. (I’m thinking Norway, Russia…)
(08-12-2018 11:02 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:(08-10-2018 05:37 AM)papasco Wrote: Gentlemen
There you go with my contribution on Black Man Game Options.
I did some research trying to find out where my colour skin will not be an handicap on gaming (at least for the approach). You can agree or not and even though I’m proud to roll with this colour in this white world, I face - like most of the brothers - some discriminations just because I’m different.
Due to the recent migrant crisis in Europe, people will assume that you’re just another refugee until they know more about you… (Let’s be clear I’m not blaming the migrant, they’re just hustling trying to have lives!)
Of course rolling suit up can change people attitude towards you and I can see the looks I’m getting on my way to work, but to me it’s strange to hit a club with a suit especially when you have a dance game and you wear expensive suits. But I guess I’ll have to experiment it one day.
Anyway, I did some research trying to find out where in Europe, my skin color will not be an “handicap” on approaching and I find out a study from the European Union discrimination agency with some interesting findings.
Whether they have children or not, only 56% of European would feel totally comfortable if one of their children or potential children was in a love relationship with a black person.
In the meantime, 82% of them would feel totally comfortable if it’s with a white person.
I don’t know if you realize, but that’s a BIG difference.
Here is the top 5 of totally comfortable answers: Sweden, Netherlands, UK, France, Ireland
Here is the top 5 of totally uncomfortable answers: Slovakia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Cyprus
Focusing only on the delta between black and with person, the countries with the lowest difference are: Luxembourg, Sweden, UK, Netherlands and Denmark.
First thing I assumed seeing this is that it’s probably impacted by a high share of old people in the survey. So I look at the result per age group.
And to my big surprise not that big difference: 15-24 are comfortable for a black person at 65%, 25-39 at 59%, 40-54 at 58% and 55+ at 50%.
Then I checked the gender, assuming that maybe women were more open but disappointment again: men totally comfortable at 55% women totally comfortable at 57%.
There are plenty of additional interesting data but I will stop it here for now.
I don’t mean with this that we should all head to the Luxembourg, Sweden, UK, Netherlands, Denmark, France and Ireland and expect pussies paradises. But I can imagine that it should be easier for us to approach in these countries.
I’m French, I’ve visited all these countries except UK and Denmark and I can assure you that without game, nothing will happen.
BUT I think the gold mine is the flop 5. value. Their answer is for me the translation of their ignorance of what’s a black person and I can understand that people are scared of what they don’t know. Normally our exotic value should be higher in Slovakia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Cyprus.
I’ve only been to Czech Republic among these 5 but from now the other 4 will come on top of my list.
Have any of you ever been in any of these? How was the reception?
Additional notes:
- Unfortunately this study was conducted in 2015 and a lot of thing have change now. I think they will update the study this year so I look forward to seeing the results.
- This is based on declarative so it can just means that the top countries are the most hypocrite ones in Europe
- This is based on EU28. A lot of interesting Euro countries are missing. (I’m thinking Norway, Russia…)
Surveys are bullshit.
Studies are bullshit.
Just because you visited those countries and didn't have a good experience, it doesn't mean the next black guy will have the same experience.
No one here is trying to sex down EVERY European woman, yes many will not want you but luckily there are so many that will want you.
If you listen to other people, you won't go anywhere and miss out on lots of opportunities.
Luckily, I NEVER listened to other people and always went against the norm.
I travelled to a Greek island air only many years ago, probably before you were even born. I had the time of my life, see our first podcast on the first page of this thread for the details.
In 201, I travelled by myself to Iceland.
My co-workers kept looking at me funny and saying I should have gone to Vegas/Cancun etc.
Iceland blew me away, I had such a blast I returned later in that same year. I also went back in December 2016 and met up with a young black forum member, trust me WE had a good time.
That same member was also in Russia recently.
As you can see I have travelled to a number of places, the more off the beaten path the place is the better the reception.
I am sorry, your outlook is very negative.
I don't see black skin as being a handicap, maybe in a job interview but not when I travel. There are many young black guys on this forum who travel a lot and are enjoying life. CoverDoc posted a recent trip report from Barcelona, sounds like he had a good time.
This is a great time to travel, the internet makes things so much easier and their are many ways you can meet women. Many guys on this thread speak highly of Mexico City, not a place most of us would have even considered.
I talk to a few white forum members on a regular, they are always begging me to come meet them in certain places. Shout out to those guys, love you guys.
As I mentioned before I love F1, next year I would love to visit the race in Baku Azerbijan. I can guarantee you I will meet women, whether I get laid doesn't really matter. At least I can say I have been to Azerbijan.
The glass is always half full.
(08-12-2018 12:28 PM)papasco Wrote: Anyway, I did some research trying to find out where in Europe, my skin color will not be an “handicap” on approaching and I find out a study from the European Union discrimination agency with some interesting findings.
Whether they have children or not, only 56% of European would feel totally comfortable if one of their children or potential children was in a love relationship with a black person.
In the meantime, 82% of them would feel totally comfortable if it’s with a white person.
I don’t know if you realize, but that’s a BIG difference.
Here is the top 5 of totally comfortable answers: Sweden, Netherlands, UK, France, Ireland
Here is the top 5 of totally uncomfortable answers: Slovakia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Cyprus
Focusing only on the delta between black and with person, the countries with the lowest difference are: Luxembourg, Sweden, UK, Netherlands and Denmark.
First thing I assumed seeing this is that it’s probably impacted by a high share of old people in the survey. So I look at the result per age group.
And to my big surprise not that big difference: 15-24 are comfortable for a black person at 65%, 25-39 at 59%, 40-54 at 58% and 55+ at 50%.
Then I checked the gender, assuming that maybe women were more open but disappointment again: men totally comfortable at 55% women totally comfortable at 57%.
There are plenty of additional interesting data but I will stop it here for now.
(08-12-2018 03:47 AM)Noir Wrote:(08-11-2018 12:40 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: *reads Noir's post*
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WIA
re: allowing women time to think
I want your side of this, what do you think?
(08-13-2018 08:08 AM)BasketBounce Wrote: @rudebwoy, a lot of people my age stay playing video games, too. i’m worried about my brother, he’s got a girlfriend and he just got into pjarmacy school so he thinks gems good. he doesn’t realize his own potential, but that’s on him.
my mindset. medical school -> specialize -> leadership in a physician association. Connections take you to the next level. i’m tryna be the guy planning medical conferences, running multiple practices...maybe even dabble in some politics.
Any of y’all try your hand at politics? I think I’d get caught up in a scandal, I like the allure of strippers too much haha
Imm tryna make money for life. retirement’s not an option for me, not the way i see it. On some obama type mess. that dude makes money just speaking at events lol...yhat’s what I’m tryna do!
(08-13-2018 08:08 AM)BasketBounce Wrote: @rudebwoy, a lot of people my age stay playing video games, too. i’m worried about my brother, he’s got a girlfriend and he just got into pharmacy school so he thinks he’s good. he doesn’t realize his own potential, but that’s on him.
my mindset. medical school -> specialize -> leadership in a physician association. Connections take you to the next level. i’m tryna be the guy planning medical conferences, running multiple practices...maybe even dabble in some politics.
Any of y’all try your hand at politics? I think I’d get caught up in a scandal, I like the allure of strippers too much haha
I’m tryna make money for life. retirement’s not an option for me, not the way i see it. On some obama type mess. that dude makes money just speaking at events lol...yhat’s what I’m tryna do!
(08-14-2018 11:53 AM)thedarkknight Wrote: I don’t know how you brothers approach non-black women in Europe.
TDK
(08-14-2018 12:27 PM)Moma Wrote:(08-14-2018 11:53 AM)thedarkknight Wrote: I don’t know how you brothers approach non-black women in Europe.
TDK
What do you mean? I don't think it's that bad. Sometimes, if one imagines someone holds a prejudice about them, it bleeds into their vibe and they may presume that it exists. There are many people who don't watch the news or those people are actually attracted by the 'dangerous' element of a black migrant. At the end of the day, you have to own your vibe and go after who you want/desire. If you like white lizards, go for them. They come in different rankings and they are not all rated or perceived equally amongst themselves.
I don't know if one can consider Turkish as white but they have a particular liking for blacks.
One of my guys in university picked up a sexy one and sexed her well. She was so receptive, she let his roommates smash too but that's a whole other story...
The Danish also like blacks as well (speaking from personal experience). There may be certain 'black looks' they don't go for immediately but once you validate that you are a Western black, it's game on. There is a black guy on this thread for which Denmark is essentially his DR. If you can't go to Denmark (when I lived in the UK, it was about 30 quid for a return flight there), you can definitely find a Danish community in London and work it from there.
(08-14-2018 02:04 PM)thedarkknight Wrote: Speaking of which,
when I came back from Africa and Grenada earlier this year. Both times I was stopped at customs and asked to open my bags. They then thoroughly searched my bags and asked me shit like, where I bought the tickets, what job I do, where do i work etc etc. They asked me, both times, " Do you know its illegal to bring firearms and drugs into the country?"
This never used to happen. I had to show my passport (again) despite going through the nothing to declare. This was at London Gatwick. Of course, I was the only black male and yes, I was the only one subject to this "random" search.
Welcome " home" fellas.
My point: We cannot ignore the incredible social issues that are plaguing Europe. Particularly as we are one of the two groups that are most demonised. I couldn't care less if you dudes call me coon or whatever, we have to deal with reality before it deals with us. And trust me, it will.
TDK