(07-31-2018 06:05 AM)Fortis Wrote:  They say this to you? Interesting. I'd probably just move on? Why bother trying to turn a 'no" into a "yes" when there are so many other women out there.

There are some chinese chicks who pull a similar thing on black dudes. They'll say something like "why are you pretending to be an American" or some slick shit like that.

You can chop them up verbally and teach them about themselves but you don't really stand to gain much by gaming one of those types of girls.

Not really trying to turn this into a yes.. I really thought about giving some of these girls the business but like you said i just left that shit alone.

This has happened about 3 times here or so.

Funny I have heard the why are you pretending to be an American line before too.

What do non-American, non-black women know about “pretending” to be an American black man...especially when both of y’all (Fortis and kirdiesel) are American? Shaking my damn head.

@Iso: Generally speaking. The rules for interacting with girls at a club are different from interacting at a house party. Or a pool party.

Basically you gotta know who knows who. Girls are concerned about their reputation and looking cool. Dick is not a top priority for women. She might want to fuck you, but if you’re just some random dude, she doesn’t want to come off as a sloot. The hamster is strong.

Your approach will differ based on how you relate to the group.

Are you the “alpha”? Then you gotta hold court.

Alpha’s best friend? Even easier. Just make the alpha look good (w/o being a sycophant)

New guy to the group? Entertain, get others to respond to you.

But at some point if you’re tryna fuck, you’re gonna have to pull the girl away from the group so you can exchange more than just pleasantries.

Discretion is key.

I’ve hit a couple of broads just by making my presence known early on, leaving her group, then circling back later on at night as things are winding down. People are drunk, inhibitions are down, and you’ve already established yourself as a cool guy. Suggest an after party (hopefully you have some weed or liquor), and then you close.

That’s if you wanna go indirect. Some guys prefer and have success with direct. I really haven’t.

(07-31-2018 08:26 AM)BasketBounce Wrote:  What do non-American, non-black women know about “pretending” to be an American black man...especially when both of y’all (Fortis and kirdiesel) are American? Shaking my damn head

They know what the media has told them a Black American man is "supposed" to be, and its a very narrow definition. If you don't fit it they will have their doubts.

Many of them have probably been burnt in the past by some African brothas faking the funk before and their defenses are at an all time high.

I've encountered the skepticism at my American roots on 3 different continents. No one has been bold enough to call me a outright liar, per the examples given by Fortis and Kirdiesel but I have been hit with suspicion on occasion when outside the US of A.

@ISO

I agree with Basket.

I think you're asking about the racial aspect specifically.

Let's imagine 4 types of clubs
- Mostly black
- Mixed where everyone talks to each other
- Invisible White clubs - where blacks talk to blacks, latins to latins, indians and arabs to themselves, and white girls to white guys, white guys to asian and white girls.
- Straight up Segregation - 90% white, and you show up.

So in the black spots - those white girls be they on some Jada Stevens/Nina Kayy/Stripper shit or plucked straight out of suburbia shit - they are there for the bamboo. If you're not fulfilling that reality or that fantasy, you're not really exciting her.

In the mixed spots - it's just regular game. Assess, Step Up, spit your shit.

In segregated places that looks mixed - like a place that's frequented by gentrifiers. Tha'ts where you start to notice these invisible lines and unwritten rules. You can trample over those mf'ers if you want to.

In Aryan Playgrounds -

That's where shit gets dicey.

Say it's a frat party, The black STAR football player has his pick of any white pussy there. The weedman and the dj might be able to get some white bitches on the low, but the "higher end" white girls within whatever fucked up status games in and among white folks - she might want to, but she can't.

Not openly.

I already posted that case of the black guy in a white frat, who got some head from some white chick, and the white chick stopped, and then some other white girl got in her head, and so the dicksucker cried rape. That's the issue- in that girls can't be slutty - and if you add race to the mix along with members of the tribe knowing what the fuck is going on - you're just fucking yourself.

The reverse is also true. Dick Spencer can't go to the hood spot and grab him a Blac Chyna without grief. But Adolph n'nem rather fuck with a Chun Li (and I don't mean Nicki) so it's not really an issue.

That being said, some white guys have exquisite taste in black women, and I give them props for pulling em. Cause black chicks be skeptical as fuck.

WIA

Ha

Having been the d-boy in the lily white frat party plenty of times, WIA is pretty on point.

It changes a bit if someone with pull gives you an intro, cause now you’re “vetted” to some extent.

But really everything went down out of sight out of mind.

Meaning, my homies room at the house where we’d be pulling girls back to do lines. Or back at my spot with an invite for more of the same. Or at some later date after getting her digits and her outside of that social context.

If you hang around a scene enough eventually you can get an “in” and people care less, but there is always that one girl who won’t give you the time of day at the party but will get her friend to get your number so she can “come cop” by herself and set you up on the low.

@Kirdiesel.

When does the a Nazi shit come up?

Early, mid, after the bang?

(07-31-2018 10:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I already posted that case of the black guy in a white frat, who got some head from some white chick, and the white chick stopped, and then some other white girl got in her head, and so the dicksucker cried rape. That's the issue- in that girls can't be slutty - and if you add race to the mix along with members of the tribe knowing what the fuck is going on - you're just fucking yourself.

That was pretty much me in college. I was in a majority white fraternity and sarged hard for white chicks back then. They appeared attracted to me but stopped just short of dating or doing anything sexual and I could never figure out why.

Don’t be willing to be Mediocre out there my dudes.

Emotional stimulation and navigating a girl’s mental blocks came up on another thread.

Until you get the basic idea and can run stuff unscripted, it may help to have some kind of basic gambit down and follows up. Run it a few times and then you’ll get the hang and then you should stop running canned shit cause it will put you in a rut.

The idea is to conjure emotions and feels in a chick and then get her to relate with the positive ones to you and any negative ones to other things.

You want to come up with one for yourself but I almost always play off location and travel cause it’s central to my life and I usually lead with a related curiosity gambit that gets her to ask where I’m from and why I’m here (did this even in the states)

Then it’s like

“You ever get ready to do something new and then just before you’re mad excited but also like a little nervous, that’s always my favorite feeing because the nervous energy is like a little sign that you are about to step outside your comfort zone and then it’s like yo you really need to do this. That’s how I feel about traveling and going to new places and meeting new people. I know it’s always going to be an amazing experience if i just step outside that comfort zone.”

Etc etc

Knowing some NLP type stuff and how to use language to get to feelings and how to anchor these to yourself and how to emphasize some words with embedded commands. Ya all helpful but not really required if you get the basic idea.

Then you want to get her to draw out the same vibe in herself so she matches it. Usually will do this by turning that whole sequence above back on her with cold read.

“Yeah I bet you know how that is you seem like an adventurous type / love adventure / try new things often / etc”

Then she agrees and talks about it some and you probe her (what they call eliciting values) a bit with some questions or open ended statements.


For getting around hangups it’s mostly about having some empathy and being able to see where she is struggling a bit because she wants the cool guy experience and to be swept up in that feel but sometimes she needs some help getting there.

Disregarding logistics and other meat space stuff to just talk about mental things. A lot of it is social frame stuff cause she needs to know that you won’t judge her, won’t put her in a bad situation, that she won’t have blow back to her circle and that you won’t be some clingy looser once she gives it up.

So yeah once you realize where she is at you can work with her to get past those together. And usually it helps to throw in some non judgement frame where you can talk about how guys are always judging chicks and it makes it hard for girls to open up and yeah you think it’s wack.

There’s way better info about this stuff elsewhere once you know where to look and a lot of it is low key overkill at a certain point but yeah it is fun to run.

(07-31-2018 06:01 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  What is the correct response to "Sorry I only like tall, blonde haired, white guys?"

I have run into it a handful of times here in 'sometimes Nazi' Germany.

There is no response to that. Just have fun with it. You can reverse shame the lizard by saying "I only like black women but I'm just out to chill. If I buy you a drink do you promise not to let anyone see me with you?".

Many white lizards think black men are dying to be seen with them. I mentioned earlier on this thread and in one of the pods that I actually try NOT to be seen publicly with white lizards. I had one pick up on this and try to turn the tables and invite all her female friends to her place to see me walking around half naked in her flat. Just make fun of the whole incident. People will say any old hat at times, half the times they don't know what they are talking about.

I was out at an event recently and one of the lizards there (black American was yowling something about she doesn't like Africans). Mind you, it was an African event and she had been there all night. To my knowledge, she was being driven home by an African. One of my guys was becoming flustered by what she was saying but I was moving closer seeing if I could procure some privacy so we could fcuk..
I didn't get her number but you get my drift (water off of a duck's back).

I've had a lizard tell me she thinks Nigerians are trouble only to be later situated upside down underneath me with the family photo staring me accusingly in the face while I stroked those walls...

(08-02-2018 07:17 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 06:01 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  What is the correct response to "Sorry I only like tall, blonde haired, white guys?"

I have run into it a handful of times here in 'sometimes Nazi' Germany.

There is no response to that. Just have fun with it. You can reverse shame the lizard by saying "I only like black women but I'm just out to chill. If I buy you a drink do you promise not to let anyone see me with you?".

Many white lizards think black men are dying to be seen with them. I mentioned earlier on this thread and in one of the pods that I actually try NOT to be seen publicly with white lizards. I had one pick up on this and try to turn the tables and invite all her female friends to her place to see me walking around half naked in her flat. Just make fun of the whole incident. People will say any old hat at times, half the times they don't know what they are talking about.

I was out at an event recently and one of the lizards there (black American was yowling something about she doesn't like Africans). Mind you, it was an African event and she had been there all night. To my knowledge, she was being driven home by an African. One of my guys was becoming flustered by what she was saying but I was moving closer seeing if I could procure some privacy so we could fcuk..
I didn't get her number but you get my drift (water off of a duck's back).

I've had a lizard tell me she thinks Nigerians are trouble only to be later situated upside down underneath me with the family photo staring me accusingly in the face while I stroked those walls...

When you come at white lizards like that, if does their head in.
They are use to so many guys grovelling at their feet, so when you flip the script her mind goes in overdrive.

The line could have been a shit test, what was your response and attitude would be more important. Moma has the best reply, laugh it off and tell her you don't normally date white girls.

Fuck those bishes. The same ones who act this way will go home and rub one out to BBC porn. With me, it’s clear, I just want to fuck, no relationships, no kids, no social circle mixing, and I’m damn sure not taking one home to meet my family.
I just fucked one this afternoon an hour after we met up. She confessed that she watches BBC porn constantly and was enthralled with my dyck. Bottom line, they just want this BBC and I just wanna bang. Period. End of story.

Agreed.

I’ve tried the dating non- black women thing. The energy is jacked up and draws envy/hate/ attention.

I’m a low-key guy and black on black relationships are a whole lot easier outside of the bedroom.

TDK

Do any of you guys have a affinity for hippie bitches?. Do some of you guys have any intel on them, have spent time macking them or simply has solid advice for gaming them.

I'm not talking about the flower-power goan trance festival suck 50 cocks on demand type of white bitch

I'm talking erykah badu pray to the orishas, natural hair Huey p newton reading, soft spoken passionate fucking type black ho.

In my eyes the latter ones are great for LTRs and as girlfriends in your young player days but are unworthy of me even considering locking them down

(08-04-2018 06:50 PM)Lowkey Wrote:  Do any of you guys have a affinity for hippie bitches?. Do some of you guys have any intel on them, have spent time macking them or simply has solid advice for gaming them.

I'm not talking about the flower-power goan trance festival suck 50 cocks on demand type of white bitch

I'm talking erykah badu pray to the orishas, natural hair Huey p newton reading, soft spoken passionate fucking type black ho.

In my eyes the latter ones are great for LTRs and as girlfriends in your young player days but are unworthy of me even considering locking them down

Rocked with both. Stinky ass patchouli white chicks that like to dome a brother up. And Lauryn Hills that keep the same schedules as the aforementioned.

LTR'd the Badu type, but turns out that's not really my speed. I really am a sucker for a headwrap and a phat ass.

Lot of chicks do that shit for "fashion".
Even the ones in the "conscious" community.

And I mean they haven't read Clarke, Rodney, about the Maroons, about all the resistance movements in Africa...the headwrap, the ankh earrings, and not eating pork is about not being like Them Hoes Over There. (Thots)

How many of those chicks have Gucci and shit on the low?
They want to live this fantasy of a African wife that is really some 1950's American with D'Angelo playing in the background and sweet potatoes in the oven.

A lot of Black Americans, in particular, really have this mythological idea of "Africa" - when the reality is that Africa is 50+ countries, and every country has all sorts of tribal, class, economic, and political divisions - and the color of one's skin isn't really part of the mental processing.

Our corrupt leaders, business and political, tend to be white.
So the American way of thinking is that if we just change out the leadership, shit's gonna be alright.

Meanwhile the cops, prosecutors, judges, law makers, and presidents in "Africa-Land" all look exactly the same as the criminals.

Back to the chicks - a lot of them just are not "bout dat life".

There are women in my family that been bout dat life, and prefer to get their coconut milk from the can, instead of grating that shit by hand. All that hard labor? All that denying yourself Western convenience?

To me a brother trying to find an LTR based on shea butter is like a white dude going to the Fatherland and trying to pull some yokel out of Vladivostok.

Maybe i'm just bitter though, lol.

WIA

But you wanted intel.

So it's about having all your shit straight before you start going to their events.
You need to be better read than they are, but that's not hard at all.
Name drop Audre Lorde and Fannie Lou Hamer.
Isis Papers if they happen to be more on the Hotep range.

You need to have your paper straight.
You need to have a job or something that's upwardly mobile, because you need to finance her fantasy of 4 kids while she works on her ankle jewelry business.

This is their dream




And if you watch any of these videos, as positive as this brother is, the reality of his economic situation will affect their lives in a big way.

WIA

You're right it's totally fake but due to me being eccentric non - emotional driven guy, this bitches are great for me in a way. They simply fill a certain purpose.

They make you high of emotions , They create an illusion of a connection. Their bullshit is more intriguing then a basic bitch, But still it's just as devoid of meaning.

(08-05-2018 12:03 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  But you wanted intel.

So it's about having all your shit straight before you start going to their events.
You need to be better read than they are, but that's not hard at all.
Name drop Audre Lorde and Fannie Lou Hamer.
Isis Papers if they happen to be more on the Hotep range.

You need to have your paper straight.
You need to have a job or something that's upwardly mobile, because you need to finance her fantasy of 4 kids while she works on her ankle jewelry business.

This is their dream




And if you watch any of these videos, as positive as this brother is, the reality of his economic situation will affect their lives in a big way.

WIA

I strive for this everyday.

Making money and being mobile is a dream, I have met a few guys who manage this lifestyle.

Been tossing the idea around of opening a restaurant, it is going to require more time than the 9 to 5 and I certainly wouldn't be upwardly mobile.

Dawg you can get that with most any chick if you spend a bit of time with her.

A girl with a bit of edge will always make you better.

Or go to the Motherland and grab yourself a girl, they will sell you on that in a minute and you’ll end up with 5 kids and as much Shay butter as you want.

For context the couple in the vid WIA linked moved to Ghana (that shit came up a lot when I was researching my stuff) but if you think every chick in Osu isn’t eyeing him cause he’s American ™ then you would be mistaken.

^ See that’s the thing. even if I went back to the motherland and got me a naija gyal, i would feel like she’s just using me for citizenship.

Nah dog there are chicks all over that have way more money than you if you know where to look. But there are also a lot of sharks. Keeps things interesting at least.

The Naija girls I had found in the states only come back for vacation and look at you crazy if you say you’re gonna go long term to the Continent but they still watch all the snaps wistfully.

Naija girls are money getters. They are born hustlers. I would avoid them

(10-28-2016 03:04 PM)Huey Wrote:  When are you going to drop that book? Quit teasing us.

Great Question!

Archie???

Whenever I glance at this thread, this sound comes to my mind.





(Damn at these ladies dancing beside Kelis...what a piece of asses)

Kudos to Rudebwoy, Moma, WIA and all the other great posters who make this thread one of the best and non toxical game threads in this forum.

(08-08-2018 11:35 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Whenever I glance at this thread, this sound comes to my mind.





(Damn at these ladies dancing beside Kelis...what a piece of asses)

Kudos to Rudebwoy, Moma, WIA and all the other great posters who make this thread one of the best and non toxical game threads in this forum.

LOL! RIP Ol' Dirty Bastard. That song is legendary & definitely one of his greatest mainstream hits. Well timed post bro. Especially a couple posts after Lowkey stated that Naija girls are money getters. I remember in high school I actually spent actual cash & bought O.D.B.'s 2nd album (N**** Please) on compact disc because I wanted the full package with the cover art, liner notes & all that. I rarely spent money on music. I bootlegged probably 99% of my music, so O.D.B. was certainly a soundtrack to a time in my life since I gave him & his record label some money.

And I agree this is definitely one of the best pure game threads left on the site.

"If you give her time to think, you're fucking up"

Mostly true or mostly false?