Post: #2251

(06-21-2015 04:03 PM)germany Wrote:  There was a public protest in Bydgoszcz, do you know anything about this?

You got that pic out of Wikipedia and one of the first of those events in Bydgoszcz. Quite fitting to know that Butterfaces in the 3-5 category are the greater activists. Pretty girls have better things to do.

They started with the Day of Silence campaigns as soon as entering the EU in 2006. It's directed to "enlighten" the Polish people and at least indoctrinate the youth against homophobia and violence against homosexuals. It does not stop there and now includes the entire "gender is a social construct" agenda.

Nothing new - they have been force-feeding their diet to the population for years now. And it certainly works among the young generation - they even have trans politicians:


Elected member of parliament Grodzka or whatever he calls himself.

Behind her is a rainbow flower field in Warsaw that sits right in the city center in order to remind the population to be always aware that gays are the better human beings. It is a fixed installation that gets burned each year - sometimes several times. Now that the Ukraine is in the EU circle the push left will begin there too.

Post: #2252

Going to be in Szczecin for a week next week. First experience of a smaller city in Poland. Should be good. Anyone have any info on here?

Post: #2253

I'm in Bialystok Poland, about 400K population I think. Mid sized city.

I am disappointed by the talent here so far. There are definitely some hotties but:

1) There are an ever increasing number of overweight women. I have never seen so many people eating ice cream inone day. The problem is sure to become worse.

2) Butterfaces. The best looking girls seem to be ages 16-21. In the mid 20's or older, it seems rare to find girls with good bodies and faces.

3) Very few women speak fluent english. It's hard to game when they can't even understand you.

4) Found a girl last night that seemed as messed up as any western girl. Started telling me how she was always depressed and addicted to painkillers. This was like a twilight zone, where Toronto's women and Polish women switched brains.

I just want to meet a nice, wholesome 25-30 year old with a pretty face and decent body. Do they exist anymore?

Post: #2254

(06-24-2015 11:53 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I'm in Bialystok Poland, about 400K population I think. Mid sized city.

I am disappointed by the talent here so far. There are definitely some hotties but:

...

2) Butterfaces. The best looking girls seem to be ages 16-21. In the mid 20's or older, it seems rare to find girls with good bodies and faces.

...

I just want to meet a nice, wholesome 25-30 year old with a pretty face and decent body. Do they exist anymore?

In such cities you have to game 18-22 mostly or some FSU import. The really pretty ones above a certain age are either married by 25 or have moved to the bigger cities or abroad. Depending on your looks you can still score with the young ones up to age 40 or slightly beyond.

Poland is not a country to game 26+ year olds.

Post: #2255

(06-24-2015 01:37 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 11:53 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I'm in Bialystok Poland, about 400K population I think. Mid sized city.

I am disappointed by the talent here so far. There are definitely some hotties but:

...

2) Butterfaces. The best looking girls seem to be ages 16-21. In the mid 20's or older, it seems rare to find girls with good bodies and faces.

...

I just want to meet a nice, wholesome 25-30 year old with a pretty face and decent body. Do they exist anymore?

In such cities you have to game 18-22 mostly or some FSU import. The really pretty ones above a certain age are either married by 25 or have moved to the bigger cities or abroad. Depending on your looks you can still score with the young ones up to age 40 or slightly beyond.

Poland is not a country to game 26+ year olds.

Acknowledged. I will have to force myself (sarcasm) to game the younger girls. I just thought generally, it was easier to game the slightly older crowd.
I haven't seen any girl I thought was older than 25 in any bar/nightclub I have been to in Bialystok.

Post: #2256

(06-25-2015 03:39 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 01:37 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 11:53 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I'm in Bialystok Poland, about 400K population I think. Mid sized city.

I am disappointed by the talent here so far. There are definitely some hotties but:

...

2) Butterfaces. The best looking girls seem to be ages 16-21. In the mid 20's or older, it seems rare to find girls with good bodies and faces.

...

I just want to meet a nice, wholesome 25-30 year old with a pretty face and decent body. Do they exist anymore?

In such cities you have to game 18-22 mostly or some FSU import. The really pretty ones above a certain age are either married by 25 or have moved to the bigger cities or abroad. Depending on your looks you can still score with the young ones up to age 40 or slightly beyond.

Poland is not a country to game 26+ year olds.

Acknowledged. I will have to force myself (sarcasm) to game the younger girls. I just thought generally, it was easier to game the slightly older crowd.
I haven't seen any girl I thought was older than 25 in any bar/nightclub I have been to in Bialystok.

The 25+ woman is mainly married/off market. Your best option for that is Warsaw where there are a lot more 25+ 'career girls'

Post: #2257

(06-24-2015 11:53 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I'm in Bialystok Poland, about 400K population I think. Mid sized city.

I am disappointed by the talent here so far. There are definitely some hotties but:

1) There are an ever increasing number of overweight women. I have never seen so many people eating ice cream inone day. The problem is sure to become worse.

2) Butterfaces. The best looking girls seem to be ages 16-21. In the mid 20's or older, it seems rare to find girls with good bodies and faces.

3) Very few women speak fluent english. It's hard to game when they can't even understand you.

4) Found a girl last night that seemed as messed up as any western girl. Started telling me how she was always depressed and addicted to painkillers. This was like a twilight zone, where Toronto's women and Polish women switched brains.

I just want to meet a nice, wholesome 25-30 year old with a pretty face and decent body. Do they exist anymore?

Don't worry mate. I am constantly disappointed by the talent here when I'm walking around in the day time. But as soon as the sun goes down, the hot ones come out.

Post: #2258

(06-27-2015 10:30 AM)spalex Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 11:53 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I'm in Bialystok Poland, about 400K population I think. Mid sized city.

I am disappointed by the talent here so far.

1) There are an ever increasing number of overweight women. I have never seen so many people eating ice cream inone day. The problem is sure to become worse.

2) Butterfaces. The best looking girls seem to be ages 16-21. In the mid 20's or older, it seems rare to find girls with good bodies and faces.

3) Very few women speak fluent english. It's hard to game when they can't even understand you.

4) Found a girl last night that seemed as messed up as any western girl. Started telling me how she was always depressed and addicted to painkillers. This was like a twilight zone, where Toronto's women and Polish women switched brains.

I just want to meet a nice, wholesome 25-30 year old with a pretty face and decent body. Do they exist anymore?

Don't worry mate. I am constantly disappointed by the talent here when I'm walking around

Guys you just have to get drunk, that´s how polish men are doing this.

Then all the polish butterfaces will seem acceptable

Post: #2259

For all the guys (especially from USA) who will be in Wroclaw around July 11 maybe you will be interested in checking this out - http://www.superfinal.pl/

Of course it's not NFL and difference in quality is so f'n huge, but based on previous finals I've attended it's well organized event and a decent place to spend a few hours on Saturday afternoon/evening.

Post: #2260

In the summer months Poland is quite dead, all the young girls are going to their summer holidays (Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Italy, Spain)

Things return to normal in October when the school restarts

Post: #2261

(06-27-2015 04:26 PM)germany Wrote:  In the summer months Poland is quite dead, all the young girls are going to their summer holidays (Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Italy, Spain)

Things return to normal in October when the school restarts

Polish families have the money for summer homes in southern Europe? I know thins have improved here but I don't think it's that much.

It's weird, the shopping malls are modern with pretty upscale stores. But the malls are relatively dead. I was in one this afternoon and it was just dead. I still think the Polish economy has a way to go.

Post: #2262

Ok I am sticking to ages 18-24 when going out now. My results have improved. The younger I go, the better my results. I'm 41, but can pass for 35. I usually just say I'm "30-something" to keep it unspecific and never get challenged.

I don't think these Polish girls are really "sweet" like described in Bang Poland. I am switching to cocky funny and making fun of Polish girls when they talk to me and this is working surprisingly well.

What the fuck is happening to this country?

Post: #2263

westernisation and the flood of erasmus+foreigners+wizzair+ryanair

did some damage,but it's still ok .

Post: #2264

(06-27-2015 04:34 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  Ok I am sticking to ages 18-24 when going out now. My results have improved. The younger I go, the better my results. I'm 41, but can pass for 35. I usually just say I'm "30-something" to keep it unspecific and never get challenged.

I don't think these Polish girls are really "sweet" like described in Bang Poland. I am switching to cocky funny and making fun of Polish girls when they talk to me and this is working surprisingly well.

What the fuck is happening to this country?

It's Westernizing. And you are right - go for the young things - they are easier to bang than 28 year olds.

Also as far as summer is concerned - July and August is Sopot great. You have also the beach in Gdynia. Plenty of local girls go there from the area and even from the entire country. Most cannot afford to go to Croatia. Many work abroad now - those that have the time just drive over to the Polish beach and fill the clubs in Sopot. Plenty of local PUAs are having bootcamps there because the talent is just massive.

I will be there end of July with a bunch of friends - most of them Game aware. Should be fun.

Post: #2265

I like being in a tier 2 city like Bialystok where foreigners are rare.

The drawback is that English is not as widely spoken.

Post: #2266

(06-27-2015 04:56 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(06-27-2015 04:34 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  Ok I am sticking to ages 18-24 when going out now. My results have improved. The younger I go, the better my results. I'm 41, but can pass for 35. I usually just say I'm "30-something" to keep it unspecific and never get challenged.

I don't think these Polish girls are really "sweet" like described in Bang Poland. I am switching to cocky funny and making fun of Polish girls when they talk to me and this is working surprisingly well.

What the fuck is happening to this country?

It's Westernizing. And you are right - go for the young things - they are easier to bang than 28 year olds.

Also as far as summer is concerned - July and August is Sopot great. You have also the beach in Gdynia. Plenty of local girls go there from the area and even from the entire country. Most cannot afford to go to Croatia. Many work abroad now - those that have the time just drive over to the Polish beach and fill the clubs in Sopot. Plenty of local PUAs are having bootcamps there because the talent is just massive.

I will be there end of July with a bunch of friends - most of them Game aware. Should be fun.

Despite my limited experience with Polish girls , i don't think westernization is really going to affect Polish females that much. Or atleast become as messed up and degenerate as the Anglosphere ones.

Would you say Poland will become as bad as places like UK and USA ?

Because, here in Brussels, i went to school with alot of EE minorities, Polish, Romanian, Albanian, Ukrainian and Russian. The girls were all exposed to feminism, smartphones (who doesn't these days?), carrousel riding and sex and the city lifestyle. Yet, most, if not all of these girls i know decide not to take part in this process. They all seem to just want a 'good' boyfriend and have low standards (except for the Russians) , particularly the Polish girls who seem to only go after ugly and average guys, even here.

Is that the case in Poland aswell?

Post: #2267

(06-27-2015 05:36 PM)Driesinator Wrote:  Despite my limited experience with Polish girls , i don't think westernization is really going to affect Polish females that much. Or atleast become as messed up and degenerate as the Anglosphere ones.

Would you say Poland will become as bad as places like UK and USA ?

Because, here in Brussels, i went to school with alot of EE minorities, Polish, Romanian, Albanian, Ukrainian and Russian. The girls were all exposed to feminism, smartphones (who doesn't these days?), carrousel riding and sex and the city lifestyle. Yet, most, if not all of these girls i know decide not to take part in this process. They all seem to just want a 'good' boyfriend and have low standards (except for the Russians) , particularly the Polish girls who seem to only go after ugly and average guys, even here.

Is that the case in Poland aswell?

Difficult to say - given enough time then everything can change. But no - I don't expect Poland to become the UK in the next decades. As long as the gender ratios are balanced as they are now, social security is non-existent and wages are low, then women will be looking for Mr. Right at age 25 and not 35. The carousel riding will be mostly limited to 18-25 even if she is career minded. Plus the catholic church and closeness to the core family plays a role too to curb further excesses.

Keep in mind that if gender ratios are fine, then women behave much better even in the US. NYC is highly different to the rest of the country just because of that.

Post: #2268

(06-27-2015 04:29 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  Polish families have the money for summer homes in southern Europe?

Most of young girls in cities like Krakow, Wroclaw, will travel (2 weeks or so) or work abroad during summer time. But most of them will go back to their home towns that can be 50-100km away from the major cities.

Most of students staying in cities to work won't go out that much because they save money for the whole academic year to come.Thus, they won't be out partying a lot. In this case, daygame and internet game are better to ask them out.

Post: #2269

For the guys that live here:
What internet provider do you use? I'm about to get like 8 weeks off work and there is no way I am doing that with a shitty internet connection!

Post: #2270

http://www.upc.pl/

Very reliable, never had an issue.

Post: #2271

Just some recent observations on Poland to keep the thread fresh...

Katowice seems pretty empty to me at the moment, but it was hardly a hot spot at the best of times for me anyway.

Zakopane (southern mountains) is a nice place to visit for a couple of days, but the nightlife sucks and it's too family orientated, there are much better places to go in Poland.

Krakow, even in the start of the tourist season beats pretty much everywhere else I've been in Poland for average cute friendly girls. However, things aren't quite as good as last year so far. My favorite club has started charging an entrance fee on the weekend, which meant on a Friday night it was half empty, this never even happened on a Thursday night last year. Ratios feel a little worse, during the week last July, the ratios were pretty good to great (one ladies night, there was 10 guys and about 30 girls), the top bars and clubs are pretty busy most night, but there's a lot of guys. On my flight over, which has been around 75% polish most of the time, all of a sudden I'm surrounded by British guys wearing matching shirts with clever names on them....plus there was nearly 150 people on the local bar crawl on Saturday night (mostly guys of course), which basically took over whichever bar or club they rampaged into. Had a few rude girls, one which completely blanked me...which i think is a first for me in Poland...although maybe she was having a bad night and I was the 100th British guy to say hi...

Also, after spending 4 months in Poland, visiting random places over the course of a year, and after meeting literally hundreds of average Polish girls, I finally met what I guess most of you guys would call a 9.5. tall, early twenties, slim with good curves, pretty face, long blonde hair, long legs, smart and sexily dressed, confident, friendly and not bitchy. So where did I find such a rare beauty in Poland...was it in a nightclub in Krakow...or the business district of Warsaw...or maybe in a galleria in Wroclaw....no...literally in the middle of f**king nowhere...i couldn't even be totally sure if it was supposed to be a village or town or in between...it was like a wasteland with 1 alkohole some houses, a bar and a bus stop...

The point is, that I still don't buy the reports of guys coming and slaying model looking girls, morning, noon and night. I've seen a few pics guys are posting of slim girls...yes there are young, slim, friendly girls here. If you come from the another country where the average girl isn't slim or friendly, then you will probably think you've found heaven. But...I believe Roosh has it right...Poland right now is on a slippery slope, a lot of girls I talk to have a big entitlement chip on their shoulder, watch sex in the city, read the glossy mags on what life they should be living, party more than their friends and bang lots of "interesting" guys, while trying to lock down the one that can provide best for them before they hit 25 and stop taking care of themselves. A friend of a friend of mine who's 23 actually asked me to bring friends over so she could "pick a good one"...of the girls i've kept in touch with over a year, 1 has stopped being a stripper, got pregnant and found some random guy to look after her and her kid...another has become a stripper and is considering doing porn...another has gone to stay with an "internet pen pal" all summer at his expense...another has finally found her Italian guy that she hopes will take her to live in italy...etc

Having said all that, I still think Poland is an awesome place, if you adjust your expectations accordingly...

Post: #2272

Just spent the weekend in a place called Łeba.
It is up on the north coast, by the sea. Very nice. Actually the nicest and cleanest beach I have seen in Poland. I even went swimming! Which I wouldn't do in Sopot or Świnoujście.
The beach had lots of places where you could buy cold beers and food, so that was cool.
I had an awesome time and loved it, it was like 34 degrees all weekend. But I'm sure all of you guys would hate it.

The place was packed! You could barely find a place to lay down on the beach. There are shitloads of families, which I don't like because i fucking hate children.
http://i.imgur.com/oENcqVR.jpg
But the girls.... I guess this is the place where all the ugly and fat people go whilst they are trying to make themselves look more presentable. Then when they are good looking enough they are allowed into Sopot. Also, none of the guys bought swimming shorts, they just walk around in their dick stickers.
Plus it isn't really the place where single girls would go. Mostly everybody goes there on a couples trip.

The nightlife was interesting. I think I was there on a weekend that would have been one of the busiest weekends in the year for this area.
There were a lot of really good looking bars and clubs. But they were all empty. Most of them charge 10zl to get in, and I think that drives away most people. Or if it's not the cover charge, it's the Disco Pollo / Polish wedding music that they were all playing. I tried going into them at 11pm, 12pm and 1am and they were all dead. Most people I saw were drinking in the parks with their friends or drinking on the beach.
The only thing that I can think of is that the clubs and bars peak around 7-9pm. But at that point I was back at the hotel having a nap after drinking on the beach all day.

There is lots of carnival games and entertainment. It's a really cool place if you want to go on a trip with some girl. But don't go there if you are looking to pick up.

(07-06-2015 08:55 AM)averagebritguy Wrote:  The point is, that I still don't buy the reports of guys coming and slaying model looking girls, morning, noon and night. I've seen a few pics guys are posting of slim girls...yes there are young, slim, friendly girls here. If you come from the another country where the average girl isn't slim or friendly, then you will probably think you've found heaven.

Having said all that, I still think Poland is an awesome place, if you adjust your expectations accordingly...

Yeah I agree, even though I get a lot of criticism for bringing some reality to this thread.
The girls are just skinny.
But that's a new thing to most guys!

Post: #2273

(07-06-2015 10:39 AM)spalex Wrote:  Just spent the weekend in a place called Łeba.
...
http://i.imgur.com/oENcqVR.jpg
But the girls.... I guess this is the place where all the ugly and fat people go whilst they are trying to make themselves look more presentable. Then when they are good looking enough they are allowed into Sopot. Also, none of the guys bought swimming shorts, they just walk around in their dick stickers.

Heh - dick stickers and ass poppers.

Yeah - been there - a bit further east there is the national park with completely abandoned beaches. Been there with my GF a couple of years ago.

The people visiting there are overweight families. I called them GOFROWICZE. Gofry were the sweet waffles they sell everywhere and you would see an entire overweight family waddling down a street and munching on it.

Hel is where the richer people go to - Jastarnia. The BMI drops to acceptable levels there. But the women aren't there either. You would have to take them with you. I only saw occasionally some hottie walking around with her rich sugardaddy.

Sopot is where the hotties converge for the summer - there is literally nowhere else they go. The rest of coastal Poland is beautiful almost empty sandy beaches (the fat tourists there don't walk further than 500-700m from the village beach). You can drag your girl to the woods in the back and fuck her all you want, but you won't be meeting any new chicks. The only exception are drive-by beauties that walk around the country roads, but that is more luck than anything.

I even went to club back then and the only two single hot girls were paid to dance. Two guys approached them and were "lucky" to pay for their drinks, but it's slim pickings there.

Post: #2274

(06-28-2015 03:53 PM)spalex Wrote:  For the guys that live here:
What internet provider do you use? I'm about to get like 8 weeks off work and there is no way I am doing that with a shitty internet connection!

If you're in Poland for the summer, Orange provides "6GB for 6zl valid for 60days" package, so buy an orange prepaid sim and activate this package (*110*77#). That covers your mobile data. When you've exhausted your 6GB just buy another. It's valid until September or so.

Post: #2275

(07-08-2015 01:17 AM)Malo Wrote:  

(06-28-2015 03:53 PM)spalex Wrote:  For the guys that live here:
What internet provider do you use? I'm about to get like 8 weeks off work and there is no way I am doing that with a shitty internet connection!

If you're in Poland for the summer, Orange provides "6GB for 6zl valid for 60days" package, so buy an orange prepaid sim and activate this package (*110*77#). That covers your mobile data. When you've exhausted your 6GB just buy another. It's valid until September or so.

Just got fiber installed for like 100zl per month with Orange.
The price on the internet is higher, but if you go into the shop, every salesman will give you a "good deal". Plus if you put it on a business, you dont have to pay VAT.