(02-02-2013 04:55 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote: Ok so you've been to Warsaw since you were a kid, which makes me think you are probably Polish yourself.
Then you also mention your social circle was mainly upper middle Class ???
On this, you make conclusions about how the people of Warsaw think of foreigners, particularly those from North America? NO offense Bro, but to me this doesn't make sense. You aren't really a "Foreigner". Your exposure to Warsaw was as a Polish guy hanging out with Warsaw's privileged few. Of course you think the way you do. If you go to the states and hang out with the privileged people of New York City, for example, you will get a highly skewed view of how New Yorker's think of themselves compared to the rest of the country.
All I can say is that thanks to Roosh, there are going to be Hundreds or Maybe thousands more people trying out Poland. Would it not be worth the Ryanair flight from any other major polish city to Warsaw to try it out for a few days?
I went to Krakow, I struck out. I went to Bialystock, I struck out. I got cockblocked like crazy in those cities. I went to Warsaw, I scored. Not once, but multiple times. Simple and straight forward. No matter what your view on Warsaw at the end of the day, North Americans can pick up there and I'm living proof.
Warsaw deserves a chance.
Without being a prick I'll have to resort to being pedantic, which pretty much makes me a prick, still, i will procede.
Yes, you are right. Such a clique would no doubt influence my view. However, i already accounted for it.
I've already indicated that the fact that in Warsaw i hang in upper middle class circles is likely to bias my view, but, as i anticipated that this was going to be your line of response, rather obvious as it was, i already said in the previous post that you ought not to assume that i have formed my perspective purely on the back of that. To have done so would have been naive on my part, and for you to assume that of me, when i have indicated otherwise, would have been naive on yours. And yet you still responded and pointed it out. Ok.
So, I'll have to elaborate even more.
I'm not Polish in any meaningful way. A grandmother was, yes, but she lived in the Mediterranean or London most of her life. I don't look Polish. I speak it well but i do so in the way that it is obvious i'm not Polish. My 3 other grandparents were all Mediterranean. My speech, in Polish, (although not only, as my sentences here are proof towards) is riddled with grammatical errors. My interactions there are not as a Polish guy. They are those of a guy who has been there several times before. When i am there, i am a foreigner.
Now, the final point where my pedantry will touch. You have transformed your argument. Whereas before you were of the view that 'girls in Warsaw were eager to get out' , now your tone, or words, are that of 'If i'm in that region anyway, then i might as well take a cheap flight to Warsaw because as an American guy i can get off with girls there.'
You see, that's an entirely different argument.
I'm not sure i could agree with you more on the latter. Yes. Indeed. Absolutely. Without prejudice and even a sense of relief, i agree with you. If you're American then Warsaw can be plenty of fun. The girls will want to bang, to add you to their checklist, just as you add them to yours. Messr, you are right.
Only that was not your original point.
Your original point was that girls in Warsaw were looking, eagerly, to get out. That is where you are wrong. They are not.
Sure, the girls in Warsaw will bang an American, just as they want to bang a Brit, an Italian, a Greek, a Spaniard, a Brazilian and a Frenchman. But that's not the same as imagining they want to get out and leave the city.
They are, for the most part, quite contented there and not looking for a prince to come and rescue them, as your 'eagerly looking to get out' post suggested.
I mean, do you realise what those types of words imply?
It makes it sound like Warsaw is Moscow 1998, or Kiev 2004, or Brazil 2000. One of those mythical times when all girls were waiting on a prince in satin armour (Soprano's slip). It isn't like that at all and to write that it is is giving the wrong impression to people who haven't been to the city.
Sure, should you happen to be American, by all means go there and bang. But it isn't as easy as that. They are not chickens in a coop. These are girls who will be swayed by the exotic appeal of the somebody different, but they aren't imagining or 'eagerly' wanting you to take them to Missouri or New York away from the hell hole that is Warsaw. No. They are, as i said, by and large, quite content in Warsaw.
Anyway, it is the weekend. I wish you no harm, just bangs and more bangs. I'll step back, qualify my statements, and let it be. Giving the wrong impression of a city helps nobody. I was reacting to your statements. I'll acknowledge that the reactionary man is typically the 'more' wrong man, at least in any sensible psychological analysis, but not here.
Peace.