Post: #176

The song "Aurelie" by the German group Wir sind Helden comes to mind, it's essentially about Germans being unable to flirt and how people take much time to form relationships...

Post: #177

DAY 83 - 13/11/2014

POZNAN: DAY 6 NightGame Report

As night-time rolled around, I was trying to figure out which venue I'd try my hand hand at - I eventually narrowed it down between either Czekolada or SQ. From what I've read on the forum, it seems that the consensus is Czekolada on weekdays, and either SQ or Cuba Libre on weekends. Checking on each club's website, I saw that Czekolada was having a student's night promotion, while SQ was having a girls-get-in-free-before-11 promotion. I tried to weight one against the other - on the one hand, free girls entry might mean that SQ would have a good ratio early. On the other, Czekolada is far closer to my apartment, it would have a crowd closer to my age, and I figured that the larger the amount of people, the more approach opportunities I would have. So I went to Czekolada.

I probably should have gone to SQ.

I figure I ran something like 12-15 approaches in Czekolada from 10:30pm - 2:00 am - and only managed to have two approaches at all hook. Both times I got IOI's from the girls when making eye contact so it was bloody obvious that I should approach.

First girl was a petite redhead who was kino-ing me not 30 seconds into the approach. (This approach was about the seventh or eighth.) It was going smoothly, but I think she didn't think my backstory was legit (what I'm saying is that I work in some capacity at the Canadian Consulate in Poznan. I have ID that identifies me as an employee of the Canadian government - my military ID - so I figure it's a story that's both plausible and unique/interesting.) She walked off with her friends shortly thereafter. There were a couple instances afterwards where we made eye-contact and she was smiling at me - at one point I tried re-opening but she scurried off.

Second was on a girl standing alone at the bar - I glance over and she smiles at me. I approach, it hooks, and we start chatting, but her English isn't that good. I whip out my phone's Google Translate app (thankfully, Czekolada has free Wi-Fi, since I don't have data) and we go back and forth for a few exchanges until I take her to the dancefloor. Once we're there she starts grinding extremely aggressively on my crotch - I haven't fapped since I've arrived here so I went hard almost instantly. Within 10-15 seconds I was afraid she was going to actually injure me from grinding so hard Unfortunately, I could tell from dancing with her she was a tad heavier than I had figured at first seeing her - but she soon after solved the question of whether I should go for it or not by excusing herself and saying she'd be back in two minutes. I wait the two minutes and she doesn't come back, so I keep approaching.

Incidentally, I've noticed that my game-spitting ability seems to be affected by what I'm drinking for the night. Beer helps me ramble a lot, but I get sleepy soon after I start drinking it. Mixed drinks (I've been drinking a lot of Cuba Libre's here) seems to degrade my speech smoothness a lot. I was drinking vodka w/ Red Bull last night, and I noticed I was having less approach anxiety, but still was able to keep a smooth speech tone. Gonna start drinking that more.

At around 2:00am I got tired of being blown out constantly and switched over to Cuba Libre to see if there was any potential there. As I expected, by then almost all the people were on the dancefloor so there was little in the way of bar approaches. Ran one on a girl who did hook, and went for the isolation when I suggested sitting down on one of the couches - but a security guy tapped me and told me to go put my coat at the coat check. When I turned back to tell her to walk with me there she was gone.

So, my situation currently is: I have two days left here (Friday and Saturday) and no prospects in the funnel. So far this week I've gotten one makeout, one almost-pull (which I'm certain I would have gotten the flag), and maybe something like 6-8 numbers. Had two dates set but both flaked; had one girl on Tinder who wants to meet but I'll be gone before then.

Czekolada has some sort of deal tonight whereby if you show up in a skiing outfit before midnight you get free entry - which strikes me as kinda ridiculous. I don't think it's an Erasmus night, but it might be, I don't know. SQ has some event where the entrance is 45zl, whereas for Czekolada tonight it's 20zl. Frankly, I'm thinking Czekolada for both Friday and Saturday nights, since it's the closest nightclub with talent to my apartment I can get, and at this point the only way I'm going to get a flag is with an SNL. Daygame at this point is probably going to just be warm-up for the next two nights. Though I hate Cuba Libre at this point, I'm still going to use it as the last resort if Czekolada doesn't pan out - then go to street game if I have to. It's going to be a long shot, but I'm going to give it my all these last two days. Stay tuned ...

HSLD

Post: #178

+1 - Polish flag acquired.

HSLD

Post: #179

Good job, looking forward to the story!

Post: #180

DAY 84 - 14/11/2014

POZNAN: DAY 7 NightGame Report

.... also to be known forever-more as "The Night of the Devious English Groupies."

Started off the night around 9:00 walking up and down Ulitsa Wroclawska trying to warm up my approaches for the night. Opened a couple chicks and got nowhere - until who should I run into incidentally but Shikulu! Turns out he's in Poznan for the weekend - we exchange phone numbers to coordinate for the rest of the night if we can.

I decided to check out Slodownia/SQ and see if there was a good crowd. Looked at Slodownia and it was a reasonable-sized crowd - checked out SQ and it looked dead. Went with Slodownia. First approach was on a petite redhead who didn't speak much English but desperately wanted to practice - so I figured I could keep going. The club had free Wi-Fi, so I busted out my smartphone and pulled up Google Translate so we could at least have something of a conversation. I made sure to ask early if she had a boyfriend, and she said she was single. Suggested we go to the dance floor after she finished her drink and she said yes. However, after she finished she said she had to go over to the washroom. I let her go, thinking that she was going to eject and not come start. Start looking for another target and 5 min later I see her come back out of the corner of my eye. I grab her and head over to the dancefloor. Run standard dancefloor escalation but I get push-back once I get close. Go for the kiss and she face-turns - and walks off.

Go back to the bar area and see a leggy chick with blonde-ish hair who I thought had been eyeing me earlier. I open, she hooks. Apparently she's an English teacher and also is desperate to speak English - so I indulge her Within 5 minutes I've verified she is single as well - broke up with her boyfriend last week. She's with her cousin and her cousin's husband, and I suggest we go somewhere quieter to chat since it's loud - she consults with a friend for a minute before we walk off. We chat together until she finishes her beer - until then we swapped stories and I got into a semi-involved rant on how the girls in Poland are so much better than in Canada - which she seemed to like. She finished her drink and we head to the dance floor - and, same like the last one, pushes back at the kiss-close and walks off. I'm kinda miffed at this point - that's two approaches where the time could have been used elsewhere. At least I didn't buy them drinks.

Rattled off at least three or so more approaches but at this point it felt like it was getting too filled. I look down at my watch and it's 12:55. Decide to bounce and head over to Czekolada. I go there, praying along the way that there isn't too long a line - there isn't, thank God. Step inside and wait for the group ahead of me to clear - a three-set of girls come in behind me. I open the most attractive of the group and what do you know, she's .... an English teacher!! I was attracting them like flies at this point, it seemed. Did the same shtick as above - verified they were single, made clear I was single and that we should talk, isolated from her friends, and whatnot. We were sitting together on the first level of the bar when her friend comes over - they have to go to the washroom together. She asks me to stay there and leaves her drink with me.

At this point I have to evaluate. It doesn't seem like she's trying to eject, but given the first two approaches and how they went, my luck isn't doing too good so far. Still, at least she's pretty cute. I elect to stay.

Soon enough they come over, but now they want to head upstairs. I go with them - only to see these three girls get mobbed by a group of about 4 Polish guys, who, apparently, are mutual friends through someone, and thus don't know the three girls. I'm realizing that this is not going well, but through sheer force of rambling in English am I able to keep the guys off of her. Unfortunately, at some point she tells me she has to walk off with her friend for a while - but I can talk to her beta orbiter who's been standing close-by uselessly for a while!! Eject.

Run a couple more approaches but nothing hooks. Start to curse what I'm sure is about to be imminent failure for the night - with only two nights left.

Until I see a slim, leggy girl with sandy-brown hair and heels standing alone at the bar ordering a drink. I wait a few seconds to see if there's anyone with her - there isn't. I go over and open her. Her face lights up - guess what, she's an English teacher as well. Apparently she's here with some English-speaking Russian guy from Israel (his name was Mikhail) but is desperate to get away from him because he's drunk as hell. I ask if she's single - she is. I say I'm single and we should talk, and she laughs and looks coyly at me. It's on.

She finishes her drink and we go to the dancefloor afterwards. She immediately starts dirty-dancing against me - I don't even need to do anything in the way of escalation. I resist kissing her for as long as possible to heighten the tension until I physically can't anymore. Thankfully, I laid down only one short kiss which I pulled away from - not at all like the extended makeout from Monday night.

I look at my watch - it's getting close to 3am. I suggest we go somewhere else for a drink. She asks where. I suggest getting a bottle of wine and drinking it somewhere. She agrees. We step off, go get our coats, and head outside. Along the way she asks where we will drink. I suggest my (close-by) apartment, where we can drink for a little and listen to some music, since there are police outside and it's illegal to drink in public in Poland. I get some resistance at first but she eventually relents - though she makes sure to tell me that "she isn't sleeping with me tonight." God, I love those words

We get a bottle, and head over to my apartment. We had to get red wine since it was all they had on selection, and she mentioned it made her sleepy, so I decided that once we got inside I had to move for the bed in under 15min. Once we're inside my door, we make out for a little before breaking out two glasses and having some wine. At about 10 minutes in I make my move, and she goes for it. We go over to the bed and are making out - she's into it but keeps stopping me with a smile on her face, saying "you're so bad, I just want to have a little bit more of the wine!" I pin her wrists above her head - and she starts moaning really loudly. Apparently she likes getting taken.

Once I was there I got virtually zero LMR.

I'd like to point out - this chick was fucking depraved. Was down for every dark fantasy I have when banging a broad - and then some.

Choking? Yup.
Hard slapping across the face? Check.
Hair pulling, biting, spanking? You bet.
Dirty degrading name-calling? Oh yeah.
Deepthroat, facials, getting spat upon? She actually begged for all three.

If Polish girls are like that in bed, then ... damn. I need to make me some bank and expatriate here ricky-fucking-ticky.

HSLD

Post: #181

ahem!

Nice job and you created the tension.

Post: #182

(11-15-2014 09:36 AM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  DAY 84 - 14/11/2014

POZNAN: DAY 7 NightGame Report

.... also to be known forever-more as "The Night of the Devious English Groupies."

Started off the night around 9:00 walking up and down Ulitsa Wroclawska trying to warm up my approaches for the night. Opened a couple chicks and got nowhere - until who should I run into incidentally but Shikulu! Turns out he's in Poznan for the weekend - we exchange phone numbers to coordinate for the rest of the night if we can.

I decided to check out Slodownia/SQ and see if there was a good crowd. Looked at Slodownia and it was a reasonable-sized crowd - checked out SQ and it looked dead. Went with Slodownia. First approach was on a petite redhead who didn't speak much English but desperately wanted to practice - so I figured I could keep going. The club had free Wi-Fi, so I busted out my smartphone and pulled up Google Translate so we could at least have something of a conversation. I made sure to ask early if she had a boyfriend, and she said she was single. Suggested we go to the dance floor after she finished her drink and she said yes. However, after she finished she said she had to go over to the washroom. I let her go, thinking that she was going to eject and not come start. Start looking for another target and 5 min later I see her come back out of the corner of my eye. I grab her and head over to the dancefloor. Run standard dancefloor escalation but I get push-back once I get close. Go for the kiss and she face-turns - and walks off.

Go back to the bar area and see a leggy chick with blonde-ish hair who I thought had been eyeing me earlier. I open, she hooks. Apparently she's an English teacher and also is desperate to speak English - so I indulge her Within 5 minutes I've verified she is single as well - broke up with her boyfriend last week. She's with her cousin and her cousin's husband, and I suggest we go somewhere quieter to chat since it's loud - she consults with a friend for a minute before we walk off. We chat together until she finishes her beer - until then we swapped stories and I got into a semi-involved rant on how the girls in Poland are so much better than in Canada - which she seemed to like. She finished her drink and we head to the dance floor - and, same like the last one, pushes back at the kiss-close and walks off. I'm kinda miffed at this point - that's two approaches where the time could have been used elsewhere. At least I didn't buy them drinks.

Rattled off at least three or so more approaches but at this point it felt like it was getting too filled. I look down at my watch and it's 12:55. Decide to bounce and head over to Czekolada. I go there, praying along the way that there isn't too long a line - there isn't, thank God. Step inside and wait for the group ahead of me to clear - a three-set of girls come in behind me. I open the most attractive of the group and what do you know, she's .... an English teacher!! I was attracting them like flies at this point, it seemed. Did the same shtick as above - verified they were single, made clear I was single and that we should talk, isolated from her friends, and whatnot. We were sitting together on the first level of the bar when her friend comes over - they have to go to the washroom together. She asks me to stay there and leaves her drink with me.

At this point I have to evaluate. It doesn't seem like she's trying to eject, but given the first two approaches and how they went, my luck isn't doing too good so far. Still, at least she's pretty cute. I elect to stay.

Soon enough they come over, but now they want to head upstairs. I go with them - only to see these three girls get mobbed by a group of about 4 Polish guys, who, apparently, are mutual friends through someone, and thus don't know the three girls. I'm realizing that this is not going well, but through sheer force of rambling in English am I able to keep the guys off of her. Unfortunately, at some point she tells me she has to walk off with her friend for a while - but I can talk to her beta orbiter who's been standing close-by uselessly for a while!! Eject.

Run a couple more approaches but nothing hooks. Start to curse what I'm sure is about to be imminent failure for the night - with only two nights left.

Until I see a slim, leggy girl with sandy-brown hair and heels standing alone at the bar ordering a drink. I wait a few seconds to see if there's anyone with her - there isn't. I go over and open her. Her face lights up - guess what, she's an English teacher as well. Apparently she's here with some English-speaking Russian guy from Israel (his name was Mikhail) but is desperate to get away from him because he's drunk as hell. I ask if she's single - she is. I say I'm single and we should talk, and she laughs and looks coyly at me. It's on.

She finishes her drink and we go to the dancefloor afterwards. She immediately starts dirty-dancing against me - I don't even need to do anything in the way of escalation. I resist kissing her for as long as possible to heighten the tension until I physically can't anymore. Thankfully, I laid down only one short kiss which I pulled away from - not at all like the extended makeout from Monday night.

I look at my watch - it's getting close to 3am. I suggest we go somewhere else for a drink. She asks where. I suggest getting a bottle of wine and drinking it somewhere. She agrees. We step off, go get our coats, and head outside. Along the way she asks where we will drink. I suggest my (close-by) apartment, where we can drink for a little and listen to some music, since there are police outside and it's illegal to drink in public in Poland. I get some resistance at first but she eventually relents - though she makes sure to tell me that "she isn't sleeping with me tonight." God, I love those words

We get a bottle, and head over to my apartment. We had to get red wine since it was all they had on selection, and she mentioned it made her sleepy, so I decided that once we got inside I had to move for the bed in under 15min. Once we're inside my door, we make out for a little before breaking out two glasses and having some wine. At about 10 minutes in I make my move, and she goes for it. We go over to the bed and are making out - she's into it but keeps stopping me with a smile on her face, saying "you're so bad, I just want to have a little bit more of the wine!" I pin her wrists above her head - and she starts moaning really loudly. Apparently she likes getting taken.

Once I was there I got virtually zero LMR.

I'd like to point out - this chick was fucking depraved. Was down for every dark fantasy I have when banging a broad - and then some.

Choking? Yup.
Hard slapping across the face? Check.
Hair pulling, biting, spanking? You bet.
Dirty degrading name-calling? Oh yeah.
Deepthroat, facials, getting spat upon? She actually begged for all three.

If Polish girls are like that in bed, then ... damn. I need to make me some bank and expatriate here ricky-fucking-ticky.

HSLD

Polish girls are very good in bed and way better than romanian girls. But the point is, that you put so much effort for one lay and that is the way it is on the ground.

Post: #183

(11-15-2014 03:14 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ahem!

Nice job and you created the tension.

Haha yeah, good point rudebwoy. I should have given you a shout-out for the points you sent me in that PM. +1 to you bud.

(11-15-2014 03:52 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Polish girls are very good in bed and way better than romanian girls. But the point is, that you put so much effort for one lay and that is the way it is on the ground.

You're right - it's always going to be a slog no matter where you go.

There's a section from Bang Poland that jumps out at me where Roosh described that with nightgame, the real task is not in approaching - since it's bloody simple to do so because of your foreigner status - but in escalating to the kiss/pull. Or, if you want to take that in a daygame context, the problem is not approaching, but finding a girl who's approachable and willing to talk at that exact instant. I'm noticing that daygame and nightgame here have become less about the precise words you say and more about approaching in sufficient numbers to generate an appropriate amount of girls who are interested in foreigners. No matter what I say or do or how high my status or looks are, a girl uncomfortable with the idea of talking with foreigners isn't going to reciprocate even if I persist in a given interaction.

So yeah - anyone coming here will likely find they'll have to put a lot of effort approaching until they find a chick willing to indulge them.

But the juice is definitely worth the squeeze.

Post: #184

Thanks for sharing HSLD... I'm heading into Poznan a few days after you're due out... I have a lot to live up to!
Hopefully my seminal post (see my post count) will be my own report series.

Post: #185

DAY 85 - 15/11/2014

POZNAN: DAY 8 NightGame Report

Started off the night by contacting Shikulu - he was out with a friend that had come to Poznan from Berlin with him and he invited me to join them at Stary Rynek for a drink. He mentioned having met a really cute brunette from daygame at Stary Browar and was planning on meeting her later for drinks that night - good on him for moving fast. I find them on the square already having opened a two-set. We chat with them before bidding our goodbyes and heading over to a corner pub. We barely start getting in before Shikulu spots a girl standing outside smoking and opens her before either he or my friend notice her. We watch him and do the inital get-to-know-you chat before he comes back to us - no dice. We walk inside the corner pub and it's packed with people - a good number of whom I can obviously tell are foreigners.

Before I even look around I can see both of them have opened separate groups - and here I was thinking we'd just get drinks together and chat about our recent stories I watch, somewhat bemused, as they go from group to group opening - I'm really not a bar/pub type of guy, and after the marathon banging from last night, sex isn't really forefront in my mind at this point, to be honest. After a few minutes and after grabbing beers for the three of us, I notice a three-set of hot chicks and point them out to the other two - Shikulu suggests I go open them. I head over but as I get there I can realize they're chatting intently with each other and not likely to be open to approaches. I cast around for another target and find one - a redhead sitting by herself at the bar. I switch targets and head over to her to open - but the response isn't that enthusiatic. Shikulu comes over and opens her as well, but he doesn't seem to get much of a better reaction. I step away to try and find a washroom, and when I come back Shikulu and his friend have tried to open the three-set I had earlier pointed out - again, with no seeming success. We eventually decide to head out and pick up free entry tickets that Shikulu was able to get from a promoter for Czekolada.

We start heading over and make it to the south side of the square - until Shikulu notices a two-set and heads over to open them. Shikulu's friend and I watch for a few minutes and then head over to chat them up - one of them is fully Polish but whom I don't really find that attractive, and a half-Polish, half-Chinese 7 whom I actually find kind of interesting. Shikulu excuses himself to call the promoter, and I chat with the half-Chinese girl while his friend talks to the Polish girl. Shikulu pulls me aside for a moment and says that he's secured a double-date with the earlier brunette and a friend of hers - he says that he and his friend are going over there and that we'll keep in touch for the rest of the night if things end up not panning out over there. We shake hands goodbye and go our separate ways. It's roughly 10:20pm at this point - my plan for further on this night is to head to Czekolada around 11pm and see what I can gin up for myself.

I'm hungry and cold, so I go get some fast food at one of the nearby vendors and go to my apartment to warm up. When I get to my door, my phone rings - once I get inside I look at it. I have a new match on Tinder (my phone has no data but I have Wi-Fi at my apartment.) I look at the match - her pictures are actually pretty smokin'. I message her my initial "you look like you speak really good English" opener and I get a response back - after a couple message cycles I tell her that I'm going to be at Czekolada and she should meet me there. She says she's in a hostel visiting for the weekend from Warsaw and that she doesn't know the city. I ask her to send me the address of the hostel - it's on Ulitsa Mielzynskiego, about 10 minutes west of me. I offer to walk over and pick her up, which she accepts. She asks if she can bring along her friends, and if I'm okay with that. I ponder for a bit, and eventually accept - if I end up not liking her I can use her as a social "in" to any of her hotter friends. She accepts and sends me her phone number so I can contact her once I'm there. I text Shikulu to tell him that if he needs an open that I'll have the girls at Czekolada.

I walk over there and meet up with her outside the front door - unfortunately, she's not as good-looking as she is in her photos. Mostly only because her hair is done up now but wasn't in her Tinder profile pic though. Still pretty thin like most Polish girls. We wait for about 5 or so minutes for her friends to come down in ones and twoes - by the end I have a group of something like 5-7 Polish girls with me. I make a joke about how there will be many Polish guys jealous at seeing a foreigner walking around with so many Polish beauties. They all laugh kind-heartedly, and the girl I matched with mentioned that all but one of them is Polish - she points out that one of them is actually Ukrainian. My interest is immediately piqued at the prospect of getting another flag.

I'll mention a quick descriptor of this girl (the Ukrainian one) - she was very pretty, but not in the obvious runway-model look. She had more of the wholesome, girl-next-doorsy look. She had a vaguely Mediterranean look that suggested she could have been Jewish. (There was an Orthodox Jewish girl I knew tangentially who was a close friend of my ex-girlfriend who looked very similar to her.) I set off with the group of girls in tow behind me - but it quickly turns out they want to go to another pub close by (apparently they were all psychology students at a university in Warsaw and were having some sort of class celebration there.) I figure I might as well go along with the ride, so we change plans and head over there. Once we're there, I manoeuver myself beside the Ukrainian girl so that we're giving our coats to the coatcheck at the same time, and off-handedly suggest we grab drinks together. She accepts, and we head over. I end up paying for mine and hers accidentally (I gave him a larger bill than I had anticipated and he, evidentally, thought I was paying for her drink since that seems to be the expectation here), but she immediately tells me (with a smile on her face) that she'll pay for the second round.

We chat for what feels something like 15-20 minutes about ourselves, our travel stories (I made her laugh really hard with some of the stories from my Cancun Spring Break trip with friends this past February) and generally just get to know each other better. She's asking me back lots of personal questions and initiating conversation when I let it trail off, so I'm thinking that I'm doing pretty well. Once we finish our drinks I suggest we hit the dancefloor, and she accepts. On the way I try to go for the handhold, but she pulls her hand away from me. Once we're on the dancefloor, she's smiling at me but gets increasingly robotic-like, styming my attempts to dance-escalate. She eventually excuses herself to go to the washroom.

I look around and see another one of the hot girls that was in our group to this pub and I try to open her on the dancefloor. She smiles and shakes her finger at me, saying she would probably need a couple more drinks before dancing with a guy. I suggest grabbing a drink together and she accepts, but one of her friends follows us to the bar. I pay for us both again and she gives me half of the bill in return. I banter with her for a bit before asking if she's single and she says "it's complicated." Shortly thereafter, she pulls me back to the dancefloor and tells me that one of the guys in this group (there's something like 50-75 students here from the same group) is going to lead us all in a group dance. I decline and stand off to the side bemused as I watch this guy dressed in (I shit you not) a dirty wifebeater and jean suspenders lead them in some corny dance moves. I really pity Polish girls if this is what they have to deal with for the local men. Then again, it does make me look way better by comparison.

I look down at my phone and Shikulu has sent me a text - he's at SQ with his friend. I surmise that their double-date, therefore, didn't end in their hotel room as planned.

After a few minutes I see the Ukrainian girl walking off towards the bar area. I follow her and playfully tell her she still owes me that round of drinks. She laughs and we go off to get our second round - which she pays for. We then head over to the couches. I try to manoeuvre myself to sit next to her on the sofa but she beelines for the nearby chair - again, another red flag. I ask and as it turns out she has a boyfriend, who apparently is Dutch. At this point I'm actually really just enjoying talking to her regardless of trying to pick her up or not, so I indulge her attempts at conversation. We ended up for a long time on the topic of dating culture, and I gave her my "Canadian-girls-are-shit-Eastern-European-girls-are-awesome" speech laced with a liberal helping of "Polish-girls-are-insanely-more-attractive-then-Polish-guys" spice. She laughs and says that the disparity between Ukrainian men and Ukrainian women is even huger than here in Poland. I wonder for the life of me what that would look like. She mentions how there are so many beautiful girls in Ukraine that if she were to go to a club she would be completely ignored. I tell her that if she were in Toronto she'd stop traffic and cause car accidents (only half-joking.) She thinks this is hilarious and refuses to believe me.

At around 2:00am she says she is wanting to leave and go back to the hostel but doesn't know the way back. I'm wanting to leave myself so I graciously offer, like a gentleman, to walk her back. At this point I've truly discounted trying to bang her, so I just want to make sure she can get back OK. She's grateful and accepts. Incidentally, the girl I matched with on Tinder comes over and wants to leave as well, so the three of us grab our coats and head out. As we're stepping out we dodge two groups of angry drunk Polish guys looking like they're about to get in a fight. I ask my Tinder match if the stereotype that Polish girls prefer foreigners to Polish guys is true. She sighs and says something to the effect of (whilst motioning to the two groups of guys, who are by now beating the shit out of each other) "yeah, but you can't really blame us, can you?"

I drop them off, and walk back to my apartment. I get back at about 2:30am. By 2:45 I'm in bed.

My phone rings. It's Shikulu. He wants to meet at Cuba Libre. I'm not really tired enough at this point to say no, so I decide to throw my clothes back on and head there (it's just around the corner in any case.)

I get there first and wait a few minutes for them. Once they arrive Shikulu gives me the laydown on his night's events. After the double-date where the girls didn't end up going to their hotel room, they went to SQ to try and score there. By his recounting, he and his friend managed to get to makeouts with five girls (I don't know how many specifically for Shikulu or his friend) but weren't able to pull. As previously discussed, they're trying to see if they can pull anything as a last resort. I bid them good luck and follow them around as they make multiple approaches only to get shot down. I don't know if I've made this clear enough before, but I really, really despise this club. After about 30 minutes of subjecting ourselves to such masochism, we decide to head back to our respective places. I shake Shikulu and his friend's hand goodbye and promise to keep in touch.

HSLD

Post: #186

HSLD,

Great stuff. Really appreciate the detail. I'll need to find a good couple hours and start reading from the first post!

Post: #187

"I drop them off, and walk back to my apartment. I get back at about 2:30am. By 2:45 I'm in bed.

My phone rings. It's Shikulu. He wants to meet at Cuba Libre. I'm not really tired enough at this point to say no, so I decide to throw my clothes back on and head there (it's just around the corner in any case.) "

@HighSpeed_LowDrag,

please enjoy every minute of your 20's! I can't believe how much energy you guys have to go out. After I hit 30, night-game became almost impossible for me, most alcohol just makes me fall asleep, now unfortunately online or day-game

Post: #188

Hi HighSpeed_LowDrag, lovely experiences you wrote about in Poznan, wish you luck!
Do you find, from what you've experienced so far that there are on the whole more cute, hot, outgoing and blonde girls in Poland than in Germany, even if Germany would probably be blonder in general?
And would you suggest learning Polish as a good investment?

Post: #189

(11-16-2014 07:35 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  And would you suggest learning Polish as a good investment?

Unless you're moving there permanently or on a long-term basis, absolutely not. Polish is one of the hardest languages for an English-speaker to learn - the time you spend doing that is probs better spent improving your game. I will say, though, that it would be a good idea to learn a few key phrases and have them down cold - this made my time there a lot easier.

Post: #190

Just wanted to say how much i'm enjoying the thread and to thank you for making it. It takes a lot of effort to update this i'm sure and its appreciated, VERY entertaining and comprehensive. Game saga journeys are the shit. I read this thread on my lunch breaks exclusively. Its just good solid entertainment. Have gotten to about page 5 (still in Hamburg) but every day is a lesson, successes and failures both have something to offer and its awesome you're putting in the work and effort to regale us.

Keep on keeping on dude. *thumbs up*

Post: #191

(11-17-2014 10:53 PM)jackflag Wrote:  Just wanted to say how much i'm enjoying the thread and to thank you for making it. It takes a lot of effort to update this i'm sure and its appreciated, VERY entertaining and comprehensive. Game saga journeys are the shit. I read this thread on my lunch breaks exclusively. Its just good solid entertainment. Have gotten to about page 5 (still in Hamburg) but every day is a lesson, successes and failures both have something to offer and its awesome you're putting in the work and effort to regale us.

Keep on keeping on dude. *thumbs up*

Thanks brah

HSLD

Post: #192

Hi,HighSpeed_LowDrag, pardon my somewhat curious questions about Poland!

From what you've experienced in Poznan and what you've experienced in Hamburg, would you say that the average look in Germany is more like this gorgeous Polish model Constance Jablonski or it's more likely to be found in Poland?

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Post: #193

^I've seen several girls in Hamburg who look pretty close to the girl above. Given that Polish girls tend to have higher levels of butterface, I'd say you're more likely to see a girl like that in Hamburg. As much as I've had difficulties gaming the girls here. I can't deny that the top quality here matches anywhere else in the world.


That said - I'd still much rather game Polish girls.

HSLD

Post: #194

DAY 90 - 20/11/2014

Epilogue ... and some final thoughts.

I started this thread exactly three months ago with what, initially, was a simple goal. I hoped that by recording my experiences applying game during my period of time here in Hamburg, that I could learn a bit about other countries, other women .. and maybe even a bit about myself.

At this point, I can honestly say that I've achieved, above and beyond, for myself the goals I set out to reach in creating and maintaining this thread.

- I've managed to improve my daygaming and have come a ways in overcoming my approach anxiety.

- I've managed to acquire the first two foreign flags of my gaming "career," such as it is.

- I'm now at 10 notches lifetime - which was the first goal (to hit double-digits) I ever really set for myself with game when I was still languishing in virgin-hood at 19. I'm now 21, set to turn 22 in a couple weeks' time. I know that ~3 notches a year is still peanuts compared to many of the experienced players on this forum, but to a guy who at 18 was wondering if he would ever get a kiss from a girl (seriously) I can say I've come a long way from where I've started.

- I've managed to start building myself a good reputation on this forum with my insights, stories and observations. It's something I had been hoping I could create with my writing - since I'm wanting to give back to this forum long-term and help others who've been in the positions I've been in.

- Perhaps most importantly of all, my eyes have been opened to exactly what is possible out there for me in terms of game and women if I work for it - not only how one can still find feminine, high-quality women in abudance abroad, but just how relentlessly toxic a lot of girls in the English-speaking West can be by comparison. I've managed to have success running game here in Europe on girls from whom I'd probably never get so much as the time of day were I to try gaming them in a nightclub or a street corner back in Canada. Coming here, to Europe, has made me realize there's so much potential to be had if one truly wants it.

As it were, though, the vicissitudes of reality have to be accepted, at some point.

I'm going to be dealing with a significant amount of academic work coming up in the next few weeks, with the end of my exchange coming soon. And, I must be frank at this point: gaming here in Hamburg just doesn't feel worth the expenditure of time, effort, and resources I've given it at this point anymore. The nightlife, in particular, does not sit well with me, for the reasons you've read in previous posts - the steep prices, the long distances, the hostile bouncers, and the girls that, again and again, seem to just not respond to game well.

The girl that I've been seeing here in Hamburg wants to keep seeing me for as long as I'm Germany - and to be honest, at this point I'm happy with that. One more notch in this city isn't worth the effort I would be expending at this point to get it. I'm only writing this because I'm here in Hamburg and not Poznan - if I were in Poznan right now for as long as I wanted you'd better believe I'd still be pounding out the daily reports like you've been used to. Because to be honest - the period of 9 days I spent gaming in Poznan was far and away more fun than the nearly 3 months I've been here in Hamburg. And at the end of the day, you have to be having fun for this to be worthwhile. Otherwise, what's the point?

So. What does this mean for this thread?

What it means is that, at this point, I won't be offering any more in the way of gaming reports or stories. If you look at the last month or so of reports from Hamburg, you will realize that they virtually all meld into the same stories told over and over again - of not getting let into venues by hostile bouncers, of girls who despite my best efforts don't understand I'm trying to game them, of dates flaked and messages ignored. I don't need to keep wasting your time by telling you the same story over and over again.

What this thread will become, though, is a place where anyone interested in my stories or wanting to ask me questions on my impressions of Hamburg/Germany or Poznan/Poland can ask, and we can have open discussion about them. I would drop separate datasheets for both of those cities, but there's already threads with more than enough info on both (Poznan in particular) that I doubt I could really add to.

In closing I want to thank those who've followed my thread and expressed their gratitude for my work, as well as those who have given me assistance during my time here that's helped tremendously. Thanks to all of you.

But I can say one thing - this won't be the last game saga thread you'll be getting from me. What potential the future holds

HSLD

Post: #195

You learned fast and early. You have a whole life, of banging young girls ahead of you. Congrats! I wish we had this forum 20 years ago.

Post: #196

Quote:gaming here in Hamburg just doesn't feel worth the expenditure of time, effort, and resources I've given it at this point anymore.

Quote:the period of 9 days I spent gaming in Poznan was far and away more fun than the nearly 3 months I've been here in Hamburg.

told you

Post: #197

(11-20-2014 12:45 PM)w00t Wrote:  

Quote:gaming here in Hamburg just doesn't feel worth the expenditure of time, effort, and resources I've given it at this point anymore.

Quote:the period of 9 days I spent gaming in Poznan was far and away more fun than the nearly 3 months I've been here in Hamburg.

told you

Haha, yup - lesson definitely learned there.

HSLD

Post: #198

Good job. I enjoy reading stuff like this. Like you noticed, Germany is not the greatest place for gaming girls. People here tend to not respond well to the North American-style of socializing but take it as a lesson in intercultural awareness. Also, it sucks to hear that you had such bad luck with the bouncers. It usually never happens to me that they don't let me into clubs, but then again I'm German and don't face the racial profiling at some places. Maybe Hamburg is a different animal than Berlin in that regard.

But if you can get laid in Poland and Germany, I suspect your success will multiply in SEA and Latin America. Maybe you should go there on your next trip. Or, if you wanna stay in your home country: What do you think about Montréal? I haven't been to the anglophone part of Canada and from what I hear, gaming sucks in cities like Toronto. But Quebec was amazing and the girls are exceptionally beautiful and slim for North American standards.

Post: #199

(11-20-2014 03:13 PM)Flint Wrote:  Good job. I enjoy reading stuff like this. Like you noticed, Germany is not the greatest place for gaming girls. People here tend to not respond well to the North American-style of socializing but take it as a lesson in intercultural awareness. Also, it sucks to hear that you had such bad luck with the bouncers. It usually never happens to me that they don't let me into clubs, but then again I'm German and don't face the racial profiling at some places. Maybe Hamburg is a different animal than Berlin in that regard.

But if you can get laid in Poland and Germany, I suspect your success will multiply in SEA and Latin America. Maybe you should go there on your next trip. Or, if you wanna stay in your home country: What do you think about Montréal? I haven't been to the anglophone part of Canada and from what I hear, gaming sucks in cities like Toronto. But Quebec was amazing and the girls are exceptionally beautiful and slim for North American standards.

I've been to Montreal - a long time ago. (Like a few years ago.)

I actually got my first ever kiss from a girl at Altitude 737 nightclub - the one that's on the top of the Place du Canada skyscraper. 48 stories up

I've never really done any game there but I assume that the received forum knowledge on Montreal is true - that it's the most European of the major NA cities, and thus is good for finding relatively friendly, feminine Euro-style girls.

At the very least, it's definitely way better than Toronto.

I should probably make a point to go back there soon...

HSLD

Post: #200

Wow dude, you are miles ahead of me at that age. I was clueless at that age.

I enjoyed reading the thread and got frustrated because I could see small mistakes you were making, but I had no idea you were so young and had little experience.

Hats off to you youngblood. You are going to be a warrior.