Post: #76

Fisto Wrote:I hope you're right.

Because all you're going on is a photo that's in a Berlin museum and not the fact that it was Tuthmosis himself who said he's been jailed.

IT'S NOT PRISON why is that hard for you to understand??

I was just in a Dominican holding cell and I had my own cell phone with me.

If you're drawing the conclusion that this is a hoax based on what you're pointing out, even if you turn out to be right, your reasoning is fucked up.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I got thrown off when someone cross-pollinated this thread with the Berlin data sheet picture. It appears those pictures are mutually exclusive and only the original posted by Tuth has any relevance to the situation.

Post: #77

(03-02-2014 02:23 PM)placer Wrote:  Does anyone know how corrupt things are in Poland? Is this a question of paying a bribe to the right person, or is this a question of making bail?

It's not Ukraine dude, it's in the E.U - so I'd expect him to be treated fairly etc.

Post: #78

Tuth if Roosh needs money for legal defense please post the paypal account or some other way to get it to him. I will contribute a significant amount immediately.

edit: also if it's bail money, bribe money (possible depending on the situation) etc.

Post: #79

I think someone from Poland on the forum said gypsies have a sort of protective status that they exploit in the legal system. I don't know anything about the confrontation, but my guess is the gypsy isn't particularly upset at the outcome.

Gypsies have no honor in the traditional sense. Has anyone seen dirty harry? Where the criminal pays someone to beat himself up to blame the police? That's kind of the feeling I have about this whole situation....Gypsy is stalking Roosh, harassing him, Roosh finally confronts him, gypsy pushes Roosh, Roosh punches back, gypsy starts crying, police arrest Roosh, gypsies friends point to Roosh as being the aggressor.

Post: #80

(03-02-2014 02:23 PM)placer Wrote:  Does anyone know how corrupt things are in Poland? Is this a question of paying a bribe to the right person, or is this a question of making bail?

If he's already in the jail, then there's no bribing anyone at this point. That's only possible with the arresting officer(s).

He needs a lawyer.

Post: #81

I would be very,very surprised if this is a hoax. We're not feminist attention-whores. My guess is he was jailed for some garden-variety bar altercation, will pay a fine, have to appear in a polish court, etc. Worst case: The femnags in Poland use his material against him and he is asked to leave the country. Just a guess.

Post: #82

(03-02-2014 02:26 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-02-2014 02:23 PM)placer Wrote:  Does anyone know how corrupt things are in Poland? Is this a question of paying a bribe to the right person, or is this a question of making bail?

It's not Ukraine dude, it's in the E.U - so I'd expect him to be treated fairly etc.

He will be treated fairly but on the flip side, money won't get him off the hook like it could in Ukraine.

In Ukraine, the police report goes to the highest bidder, especially in times like these.

Post: #83

I'd like to ask a favor to Tuthmosis and any other moderaters to not ban any of the poster who doubted this as being fake!! Sometimes us rational people are simply being too damn rational in emotional situations, myself included!! Now let all focus on Roosh and is wellbeing!!

Post: #84

Who is in Poland that go and check on him in person? Surely there is someone in the area Roosh is in.

Post: #85

If Roosh got jailed that's fucked up and it's our hope that André gipsy spends the rest of his days in Alcatraz. I heard horrible things about gipsies and gipsy behaviour, but unfortunately they're protected by some laws. This doesn't mean they can do about anything they want so I'm positive Roosh will get out of this trouble soon.

Post: #86

(03-02-2014 02:28 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  I think someone from Poland on the forum said gypsies have a sort of protective status that they exploit in the legal system. I don't know anything about the confrontation, but my guess is the gypsy isn't particularly upset at the outcome.

Gypsies have no honor in the traditional sense. Has anyone seen dirty harry? Where the criminal pays someone to beat himself up to blame the police? That's kind of the feeling I have about this whole situation....Gypsy is stalking Roosh, harassing him, Roosh finally confronts him, gypsy pushes Roosh, Roosh punches back, gypsy starts crying, police arrest Roosh, gypsies friends point to Roosh as being the aggressor.

underlined thing is true.

Post: #87

(03-02-2014 02:30 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  Who is in Poland that go and check on him in person? Surely there is someone in the area Roosh is in.

All joking aside (and this is certainly no joking matter), the "throwing shit on girl" guy and possibly Greek kamaki.

Post: #88

(03-02-2014 02:28 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  I think someone from Poland on the forum said gypsies have a sort of protective status that they exploit in the legal system. I don't know anything about the confrontation, but my guess is the gypsy isn't particularly upset at the outcome.

Gypsies have no honor in the traditional sense. Has anyone seen dirty harry? Where the criminal pays someone to beat himself up to blame the police? That's kind of the feeling I have about this whole situation....Gypsy is stalking Roosh, harassing him, Roosh finally confronts him, gypsy pushes Roosh, Roosh punches back, gypsy starts crying, police arrest Roosh, gypsies friends point to Roosh as being the aggressor.

I'd say that's a pretty good guess at how things escalated.

I've heard of a couple strange circumstances surrounding gypsies and fights.

1. In Paris, gypsies will "fake fight" to get your attention while they pick your pockets.

2. In Ukraine a friend told me there is a "gypsy king" who is like some sort of kingpin. The gypsies pay him protection money and he bails them out of prison.

Like D&P said, you never know if someone has a knife....so go for the eyes.

Post: #89

I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke--even if it meant me having egg on my face--but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I've personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.

Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What's more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don't know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.

Post: #90

Hope it's nothing too serious.

Post: #91

If Roosh is still in prison a couple months from now. Ill make sure to visit him when I get to Poland.

I feel bad for his girlfriend though...

Post: #92

^ OK, so the picture is a bit strange, but I think we can all agree that he's definitely been arrested.

Edit - the post I was replying to seems to have disappeared?

Post: #93

I don't know anything about Polish cops, but I hope they are smart enough to get all the details from every witness and can see that this Andre gypsy probably started and found a way to escalate this altercation.

Post: #94

(03-02-2014 02:39 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke--even if it meant me having egg on my face--but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I've personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.

Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What's more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don't know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.

Scary stuff. I've travelled extensively in the region, and gypsies aren't well thought of in Eastern Europe. Sounds terrible, but that's the way it is. I guess an analogy for Americans would be like if a white dude got into a fight with a black guy in the 1940's in the South. As wrong as it may be, the white guy would be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Roosh will get the benefit of that with regard to a fight with a gypsy. Then again, he's not a Pole - so he's not gonna get much "home team" advantage.

Thank you for keeping us posted, Tuthmosis.

Post: #95

It sounds like he needs the best local lawyer available asap. If there is a trusted source who is there on the ground we need to get him the financial resources to go and get one -- like I said I'm ready to contribute now just tell me how. Would be good to have someone on the ground who speaks the language well.

Post: #96

I knew all this roided Super Alpha, MMA, juicing, know-how-to-fight unrelated-to-game bullshit would end badly, but I never thought it would affect Roosh himself. This sucks.

Post: #97

(03-02-2014 02:39 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke--even if it meant me having egg on my face--but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I've personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.

Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What's more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don't know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.

All of here who know the story of this scenario could only surmise that Roosh was acting in self defense.

Either way, I know that if you start shit with the gypsies, their family will come after you pretty hard and they don't give a fuck and might even try to kill you.

Post: #98

BTW, you mentioned "serious injuries". Can we confirm that Roosh is not injured? He seemed OK in the picture. Legal trouble is bad, but physical harm is worse. I'm hoping Roosh is ok physically and emotionally. Seems like a strong-minded dude so I presume he's coping well enough.

Do we have any idea as to the extent of the injuries to the other guy?

Post: #99

Fuuuuuuuck.... I was just hoping this was a troll job or a minor offence like hes just in jail for a few hours for questioning or something. Now its sounding pretty serious tho.

I hope everything ends up being ok!

Post: #100

This is just a test! He's trying to figure out who are his loyal rooshites and who are not when shit hits the fan.