Been with 3 Jgirls since I arrived (one of them is a regular now), and all of them have those "vampire teeth". For me as long as they are not yellow or have brown stains all over them then I'm fine with that. Honestly skin complexity is much more of a deal breaker for me than "uneven" teeth, and as most people know Jgirls have amazing skin.

The vampire teeth thing is called "yaeba". Just a trend. Some girls even pay to have their teeth fanged. It's a mix lately of straight and yaeba girls.

Sorry to keep blowing up this thread, but I'm really trying to flush out my plans for this Summer.

I read through the first 15-pages of this thread and it seems like Osaka is the best gaming city in Japan. Cheaper than Tokyo and fewer foreigners. Do you guys agree? I'm thinking I'll hit up Osaka for a 5 days, then Kyoto, then Tokyo. In September I'll return to visit my favorite city, and if I really like Japan I'll return a 3rd time in December to see another few cities.

Is this a good plan? Again, I'm sorry for having so many questions, I just want to start booking flights and shit.

I wouldn't say Osaka is anywhere near the best city for game, although you should definitely visit. It's a cool city and the food is great. Locals are also pretty outgoing. The nightlife is beyond abysmal though. It's been a while but even Nagoya clubs were better than Osaka.

There may be less foreigners in Osaka but honestly you aren't going to be very exotic there. Plenty of English teachers. Cheaper? Maybe marginally for hotels yes. Food is the same price.

If you want to have more exotic value then hit up pretty much any other place...Sapporo, Hiroshima and Fukuoka come to mind for day game. If you are in decent shape with style you should do OK.

Hedonistic Traveler:

Sorry for the delay in responding to your earlier follow-up questions.

I am gratified that you found some of my advice useful and that you dropped Mt. Fuji from your itinerary. Trust me, you'll be happy you did. Further: Don't give a second thought to Obon -- your schedule is perfect and will nicely miss the holiday.

In my opinion your proposed plan for a first foray into Japan is excellent. Chase some tight little Japanese ass with great relish in Osaka, pause ever so briefly to take in a bit of refined culture in Kyoto, and then close out like a poon-hound champ in Tokyo.

Now, to answer your earlier question up-thread: There are indeed two outstanding second-tier Japanese cities for pussy -- Fukuoka and Sapporo -- but I would strongly advise you not to visit them this time. Simply because you don't have a lot of time; they are rather expensive round-trips from Tokyo/Osaka; and most importantly the girls in both these cities are markedly more "provincial" and consequently English-language skill -- piss-poor as it is even in Tokyo! -- is generally abysmal. Without a good working base in Japanese I think you'd be mightily frustrated trying to score there. Push ahead with your plan just as you've conceived it.

I would be up for meeting you here in Tokyo but from late July to early September I'm decamping to a breezy coast of a Hawaiian island. And this ties in to your other question: Yes, Tokyo is hot and humid as all fuck in August! When I was a young man living in American cities with similar summer climates to Tokyo I somehow thought that over the years I would acclimate myself to the heat, but in reality it has only gotten more miserable for me with each passing year. So I'm reverse-defecting temporarily, lol.

But you're a young guy -- you'll probably thrive in the summer weather. Japan is a mesmerizing place. Take it all in!

Be well.

(05-15-2015 12:18 PM)Hedonistic Traveler Wrote:  Sorry to keep blowing up this thread, but I'm really trying to flush out my plans for this Summer.

I read through the first 15-pages of this thread and it seems like Osaka is the best gaming city in Japan. Cheaper than Tokyo and fewer foreigners. Do you guys agree? I'm thinking I'll hit up Osaka for a 5 days, then Kyoto, then Tokyo. In September I'll return to visit my favorite city, and if I really like Japan I'll return a 3rd time in December to see another few cities.

Is this a good plan? Again, I'm sorry for having so many questions, I just want to start booking flights and shit.

TokyoJoe's comments are on point.

One thing I want to add, if you are coming from outside of Japan, you can pick up a JRpass. So if you wish to travel it is well worth the money. A 1 week pass costs about 230$? but simply using the Shinkansen 2 times is the same price if not more expensive. You could easily hit up various areas on the cheap by with that.

Honestly though, you'll probably just want to follow the suggested itinerary, time flies by too fast.

ANA has 10800 yen (less than $100) one way domestic ticket for non-residents. One piece of baggage is included so it will be cheaper than low-budget airlines and you can fly from convenient airports such as Haneda instead of Narita. It has some conditions but I think you will qualify if you are a non-resident. I believe Japan Airlines also has such a deal. Google if you are interested.

http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/wws_common...index.html

Just a few random-ass thoughts. I actually have some free time at work for once.

I have trimmed my girls down to just 2 with another in consideration for slot number 3. I think I talked about this before, but everything was getting really unwieldy and interfering with new product acquisition.

Tonight is my first free night in ages, and I'm going to hit up a few bars in the Umeda area. This will be my first time with a new wing. His game is pretty weak, but he's fashionable and ripped as fuck. Hopefully I'll have some awesome stories to share tomorrow.




I've been experimenting with a couple of new things. Nothing revolutionary, but hopefully someone will get some use out of them:

The first is putting a J-ho's hand on my dick during a date. You can never go wrong giving a girl a thrill. In Japanese, that heart flutter/pounding you get is described by the onomatopoeia, doki-doki. Girls here pursue that feeling relentlessly (ドキドキした〜い！). One lady I went out with recently was stroking my boner at a bar about an hour into our date. I just ramped up the handsiness as we sipped cocktails, put her hand on my thigh, and then moved it to my peen a bit later. She was so turned on that I just skipped the next place and took her straight to my apartment.

The key points here are close seating, having a good read on your date, and discretion (Japanese girls are super conscious of the gaze of strangers). This kind of runs counter to the Tuthmosis school of thought that says kisses and whatnot should be saved for later (the thinking being that if you show your hand too early, she'll expect the next step to be sex and be more resistant to going somewhere private), but it's fun enough that I definitely want to experiment with it more.

The second thing is a little bit more difficult to explain, and maybe even more difficult to implement, but I feel like there's something there. I'll explain as best I can.

Last week I had a date with a new girl, but I had a monster migraine and wasn't really feeling it. The whiskey bar by my house is very dark and has a ludicrously talkative bartender. I decided to take girl there, rest my eyes, and let him do all the talking. I just sat there, gradually increasing physical contact and chiming in whenever it felt right. After a bit, the girl was curled up under my arm, hand on my dick under the table, talking with him. All I did was listen to the baseball game and nurse my head. We left, grabbed a light bite at a takoyaki place, and went to my apartment to bang.

Now, my sample size is just one, but it got me thinking about using other dudes to game my dates. Maybe women don't really care where lingual stimulation comes from. Maybe it's enough to just be in command of the situation and display dominance over her. I'm going to keep experimenting with this.

I love it Skotch! Keep these reports coming.

Another reason to ALWAYS choose the "counter" seats over the tables. Easy kino. Waiters might give you a knowing look or maybe I just imagine they do. But yeah, always plan your dates around bars where you can sit next to each other, not opposite. Another thing is to not order food. I'm not saying to get them outright drunk (a common J-guy mistake), but drinking on an empty stomach speeds things up big time.

I scored a Japanese flag again yesterday and just woke up after spending the night at a love hotel and taking an early train home to crash again. Had my breakfast at 5pm in the evening and feeling alot better. I want to explore a new direction of J-girls: Japanese girls who grew up overseas but are now back in Japan

Because they are ethically Japanese, they look and will range across the looks department like a normal Japanese person minus the bullshit passive aggressive and weird radio silence bullshit. I met this girl at an international party a few weeks ago and went on a date with her before seeing her again yesterday night at another international party at Roppongi. None of the native J-girls I have banged have ever allowed me to kiss them much in public, much less in a party where everyone is watching. This one literally jumped on me in the middle of everyone and when I suggested we left the party, she was down immediately.

Have any of you banged similar chicks? Foreign raised Japanese girls? They tend to be so repulsive of Japanese men's behavior as much as we are that they appreciate good old western game.

(05-16-2015 04:04 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  Have any of you banged similar chicks? Foreign raised Japanese girls? They tend to be so repulsive of Japanese men's behavior as much as we are that they appreciate good old western game.

I can assure you that the feeling is mutual. Japanese guys won't touch those kinds of girls with a bargepole.

I say just enjoy both. She sounds like a slut though. Personally I do prefer the traditional chicks overall but nothing wrong with having some fun with a dirty westernised one sometimes. Don't expect them to cook or clean up after themselves though!

The best part is she was born and raised in Singapore so she's fairly "asian woman" enough that she doesn't have western bitchshield. She's traditional enough, kind of a magical combination. I might LTR her but the fact she has the same background as me makes me uncomfortable. She knows TOO much about home.

Speaking of Japanese guys not touching these kinds of girls, have you been to an international party and see those thirsty Jap dudes who buy drinks but don't do a single approach? Now whenever I meet another foreigner in Japan, we talk about our experiences at these parties. It always gets a few laughs. I love this country.

Considering you met her at two different international parties where she is 99% likely hunting for foreign dick, I might slow down with the LTR talk. Bang her and see how you go. That's my advice. Then again, I'm not always the wisest decision-maker either haha.

So I'm loving this forum and want to understand more about the nuances of Japanese game. I'll explain a bit of my situation: I'm a new student of the game, and have only recently decided that I can't get laid forever just by standing around at frat parties looking pretty. So as soon as I got to Japan I started hitting up the nightlife. I'm studying in Kyoto on exchange for the coming year and just arrived in late March. I went raging around kiyamachi once or twice a week, every week, and didn't have any luck until 3 weeks ago with a girl from Osaka. So I figured I'd finally heed my senpai's advice and start hitting up the fabled Osaka clubs. [side note: I'm pretty good at Japanese; somewhere between JLPT 2 and 3, and always speak exclusively Japanese with girls unless they're learning English then of course I'l throw some English phrases in]

First night in Osaka two weeks ago, I get 3 LINE contacts after seriously approaching a total of 6 or 7 (not including eye contact and playful expressions alone, which has actually been a great pre-approach strategy so far) and keep a LINE conversation going with two of them over the next week. I met one last Friday here in Kyoto and we banged, and the other one I'm meeting sometime next week and presumably it'll go just as well assuming she doesn't flake. Last night, I went back to a different club in Osaka and hit it off with the first girl I seriously approached and ended up with her in a love hotel for a few hours before taking the first train home. So that's 3 girls in three weeks with one coming up next week, when back at my home university I only ever got 2 or 3 per semester. Needless to say I'm in love with Osaka now, and am looking forward to getting a rotation going of 3 or 4 girls. I can feel my night game getting tighter and tighter and I'm fucking loving it. As a recovering sem-Beta, I still make pretty few approaches but I'm seeing some wild success rates.

My main problems are: I've had zero luck with Kyoto girls, I'm starting to get worried that my game is just too specific to Osaka, my day game is weak, and I want to challenge myself more to make sure I can continue to slay when I leave Kansai and eventually Japan. My day game is very weak mostly because I've never really done it, and in part due to a slight concern over my ability to hold my own in conversation. I feel that the bar is much higher in terms of the amount of wit and humor and such I'll need to inject into a conversation to get the ball rolling whereas for night game I do and say some funny things and the girls says I'm かっこいい and then I pretty much know I'm set. But anyway I feel like the key to game in Kyoto is good day game, which can also be used in the bars and such, because I think they're less open than Osaka girls in general and don't have the same attitude of being down to hook up when they go out. Does anyone have any general advice on how to game in Kyoto and in general outside of Osaka? I'm talking mainly how to best approach and towards the end get them into a more sexual frame of mind and to want to come back to my place.

In addition, what are your thoughts on wingmen? The options being: Japanese, foreign, foreign but ハーフ, or none. I went out last night alone for the first time and it went better than before (but ofc sample size of 1 so no conclusions). But I also feel like Japanese girls would find a solo, obviously foreign (I'm white/American) club-goer a little suspicious. So I chatted up some charai looking dudes and went with one of them to talk to girls just so they'd know I wasn't alone until I met the one I later banged. We exchanged info and he wants to go out again, but I also have two other foreign wingmen (white/not American) and I can only go out with one at a time. What do you guys think about those options?

And lastly, what about age? I've had success on past trips to Japan with girls in the mid 20s, but the ones I've banged lately have all been my age- 20 to 21. I want to go older again because I feel like they'll be better in bed, but I'm worried about breaking my weekly streak if I change shit up. I guess my main question is; with older girls, should I say I'm 22 instead of 20? Should I alter my game in any significant way to focus on them? Anyway, I'm hitting up Osaka again tonight (literally cannot get enough) but haven't decided whether I should go somewhere in Shinsaibashi/Nanba or Picadilly which is near Umeda and full of girls in their late 20s.

Sorry for the super long post but game has been on my mind 24/7 the last month and this forum along with Bang Osaka has been my bible with Roosh as my Moses and Skotch as my Jesus. Peace!

(05-16-2015 04:04 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  I scored a Japanese flag again yesterday and just woke up after spending the night at a love hotel and taking an early train home to crash again. Had my breakfast at 5pm in the evening and feeling alot better. I want to explore a new direction of J-girls: Japanese girls who grew up overseas but are now back in Japan

Because they are ethically Japanese, they look and will range across the looks department like a normal Japanese person minus the bullshit passive aggressive and weird radio silence bullshit. I met this girl at an international party a few weeks ago and went on a date with her before seeing her again yesterday night at another international party at Roppongi. None of the native J-girls I have banged have ever allowed me to kiss them much in public, much less in a party where everyone is watching. This one literally jumped on me in the middle of everyone and when I suggested we left the party, she was down immediately.

Have any of you banged similar chicks? Foreign raised Japanese girls? They tend to be so repulsive of Japanese men's behavior as much as we are that they appreciate good old western game.

If you've been reading my thread in the newbie forum, you'll see that I've lately been having success with J-girls in the group you describe. In my opinion, it doesn't matter, men need to get laid with attractive women. Whether they're experienced outside of Japan or not is immaterial. Do what works for you. I know many Japanese dudes don't know how to handle J-women who have international experience, but what does that matter to any of us? I'm drunk when I wrote this so I hope it makes some sense.

Tribal meetups? If you all are game, why don't we try to have one in between Kansai and Tokyo in Nagoya?

(05-16-2015 03:28 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  Tribal meetups? If you all are game, why don't we try to have one in between Kansai and Tokyo in Nagoya?

I will be back in Tokyo in October for most of the month. Carlos, you and me are grabbing a beer, and also I have always wanted to party in Nagoya. Those chicks are hot, and have been elusive but I want to change that. This could be a good excuse.

edited due to privacy concerns

(05-16-2015 03:28 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  Tribal meetups? If you all are game, why don't we try to have one in between Kansai and Tokyo in Nagoya?

I'd be happy to see a tribe in Osaka/Kansai area.

So I am back to debauchery, and sad to report that I have yet to have success approaching the lone woman eating at the ramenya. I was originally interested because I figured any woman who likes ramen enough to courageously lone wolf it, surrounded by ojisans and salarymen, must be at least a little bit more interesting...or perhaps it's not the case at all. After trying direct, indirect, play the gaijin card, Japanese only, I'm thinking that its not bravery at all, just a person who wants to eat their ramen and get the fuck out. Or perhaps i just need to try more.

In other news, something a lot of fellow gaijin overlook in Osaka is the incredible live music scene. If you ever get tired of Pure, Giraffe or another weekend at the Hub. Check out a show, meet people, make friends, pull the lead singer of the all female punk band while all the neets look on in shock. Live shows almost always end before the last trains and its really easy to ride the energy of the show and get your new found "best friend" to do an all nighter with you.

I'm mostly into punk, ska and hardcore so my favorite venues cater more towards those genres. My favorite venues are:

Fandango in Juso - Absolutely fantastic staff, small crowded, mostly minor Japanese bands, tend to have a more eclectic crowd.

Club Quattro in Umeda - Soundwise pretty fantastic, better know bands tend to play here so a lot of the groupie types show up, and for some reason there is a shitload of bathrooms. Seriously, like seven of them.

King Cobra in Amemura - A pure punk/hardcore live house, gritty and small, the best thing is its right accross from sankaku koen so it's incredibly easy to bounce someone to a new venue after the show.

Mele in Namba - I love mele, it's so small and grimy, its got a weird "2nd floor" that you have to climb this tiny ladder to get up to, but it's a great place to chill out and escalate in between bands.

Also, if you are into rock, Cherry Bomb and Rock Rock are great bars. Oh, and if you are gaming an otaku, check out Space Station in nishi shinsaibashi, its a tiny bar with just about every single game console you can imagine free to play.

The list above really helps! I would be going to Osaka for a work trip on 6th June for 2D1N. Really hope to stay longer but unfortunately can't. Have a date in the afternoon that I hopefully close. Anyone interested to hang out in the evening of 6th June?

(05-16-2015 05:20 AM)Doge Wrote:  My main problems are: I've had zero luck with Kyoto girls, Does anyone have any general advice on how to game in Kyoto and in general outside of Osaka?

Don't have much advice, except to say it's not just you...Kyoto girls are something else. And not just the girls - I knew Osaka businessmen who hated the snobbish Kyotoites. Skotch may have cracked the code, but for most of us, Osaka girls are a better bet. Better still, girls from Kobe (classy but not too snobby) or Nara (more friendly, less big-city type girls).

Osaka though for trashy early 20s girls with the nails and the hair, and DTF no-nonsense late 20s ones...

(05-16-2015 03:28 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  Tribal meetups? If you all are game, why don't we try to have one in between Kansai and Tokyo in Nagoya?

Carlos100: Thank you for suggesting this. I'm up for joining a Tribal meetup anywhere between Tokyo and Osaka/Kyoto.

And for location Nagoya is a very fine pick. Not only geographically, but because historically it was one of Japan's Three Big Fuglie Cities (日本三大ブス) -- namely Sendai, Mito, Nagoya -- which were once upon a time robbed of their beauties by conquering samurai but in modernity serve up a nice platter of some very fucking sweet snatch. Nagoya in particular is home to the now famous Nagoya Princesses (名古屋嬢) who have been brought up on daddy's hard-earned Toyota factory money with great dentition and nutrition -- resulting in absolutely ridiculous asses, tits, skin and face with even leftover funds for early 18th Century French royal court outfits or whatever the hell else passes for the local fashion these days. No fucking joke! I used to travel monthly from Tokyo to Nagoya for business but lately I've only been down once or twice a year.

We should definitely make this happen. If I can help with the arrangements, please let me know.

Lol I suspect this link between 'daddys Toyota factory money' and 'absolutely ridiculous ass tits skin and face' is... mild.

Nagoya has its good points, I visited there a couple of times and found the girls enthusiastic. In fact I got a better response to my online openers along the lines of of "hey, I'll be in your city for couple of days, want to meet up?" than anywhere else in Japan. The city itself is a good size, not too big or small, and it's fairly close to both Tokyo and Osaka. A promising place for a visit, and probably a good base for an enterprising expat to set up.