Hey, day 2 Here on busines. Pm me on line and let's hang or game whichever works. My line is same as my forum name.

Hey I came across this one here as well
http://www.condo-bkk.com
But it's all in Thai :/ haha

Looking for data on gentlemans clubs. pm me.

About finding a condo. It is much easier if you know where you want to stay. Hipflat is a good site to look, if choosing map view. When you know what/which condos you want to stay in you can contact the agents. Prakard is a good site. Google the name of the condo you want to stay and prakard do find the subforum. It's all in Thai but should not be too hard to navigate. Contact the owners and have them take you for viewings. Some of them like condo256 just have a few shitty rooms. Be clear with what you want, do not let them waste your time. I have some requirements like washing machine and good view. If they start showing you rooms which does not follow your requirements just skip that agent and speak to the next one.

What do you need to know about G clubs, I can perhaps advise somewhat.

After my recent trip to Bangkok (3rd year in a row, for a total of about a month), I can confirm that it's definitely no longer pussy paradise for a short-term bang trip unless you're only going after pros, semi-pros and 5/10 farang hunters who have taken 100 other foreign cocks before you. Not shamed to admit that I pulled my fair share of those, and it gets boring FAST. By short term I don't only mean a week either. Unless you're living there for a substantial amount of time to build social circles and form some type of status to separate yourself from the rest of the foreigners, you're going to struggle getting much quality. Not even dressing stylish fixes that problem anymore because the attractive middle/upper class Thai girls in RCA/Thonglor etc attitudes towards foreigners are that bad, and those attitudes are only going to get worse. I can still see good looking Koreans, Chinese and Japanese men with their shit together doing well in Bangkok, but there's just to much of a stigma against other nationalities nowadays so it's game over for us.

Like I said, you can probably still do well with the right connections and status but for the average visitor, even the young, attractive ones, it's probably not worth the battle. I actually back myself to do much better in the west as a good looking, white guy. At least there you're not fighting an uphill battle against stigmas and most bitches don't care about their reputation or are actually encouraged by their friends to get with "the hot guy".

In saying this, I did have a load of fun, have some memorable stories to tell, ate some amazing food, and banged a lot of average quality Thai sluts. The islands were better though and I picked up all sorts of different flags there.

Always funny when some guys come in and say that it's game over and us farangs are not wanted anymore. I read that a lot on ThaiVisa, usually it's a bunch of sad individuals with their panties in a twist because they don't got it anymore. Just because it's game over for you doesn't mean that it's game over for other men, Adrenaline.

Naturally Thais are going to be reserved towards foreigners, most nationalities in the world are reserved and have their opinions towards strangers. If you really are a decent looking young guy who has his shit together you won't get conflicted with the sexpat crowd, which i assume you're talking about. Must be something else going on.

The only girls you can bang are 5's, farang hunters or hookers? Says a lot more about you than the average woman in Thailand. This is my third time in Thailand and i've always gotten laid in the first three days with a girl that is a 6 or above that doesn't sell her pussy or hunts other white dudes for sport. Same for my friends.

Upper class girls are very hard to get in any country for the locals, why do you think that as a foreigner you would get with them? I wouldn't want anything to do with them in the first place. Give me a nice Isaan girl that cooks for me, treats me well and appreciates the little things. If i wanted stuck up bitches who think their pussy is worth gold i would go back to Europe.

Last monday in Bangkok i went to the local grocery store next to my pad to get some food and drinks and as i walked in i saw a really cute girl behind the counter giggling and smiling with her co-worker, it was obviously about me. When i got my stuff and approached the counter the co-worker had left so i pulled out my phone and opened the Line app and handed over my phone to her in order for her to type in her ID. I communicated with her throughout the day with some Google Translate help and ended up fucking her the same evening. That's how easy it can be here and i can provide many other examples, don't even get me started on tinder. And i'm not some exceptional looking guy or anything, i dress very sharp but looks wise i definitely wouldn't say i'm an oil painting.

I hope that the guys thinking of coming over to Thailand don't get discouraged by people like Adrenaline. Visit here first and then make up your mind. Still plenty of good pussy to be grabbed here.

Don't think it's me. I've literally been asked to model on a couple of occasions, have done well in Bangkok previously and also clean up on the Thai islands and other places so certainly don't lack game. In saying that, my game is very passive, so maybe I need to be a bit more aggressive with higher quality Thai girls. I just think the stigma is increasing and the quality girls are aware that being receptive with a foreigner will get them labelled.

My 5s are probably your Issan 7 and 8s because I don't find them attractive at all, so that doesent surprise me. Getting those types is like shooting fish in a barrel, but I ain't interested in that anymore- aiming higher.

You're entitled to your opinion but I think we're playing a completely different game man with completely different goals.

I'm in BKK from 16th Feb, PM me if you're looking for a wingman or just want to meet up.

(02-16-2017 12:15 AM)Adrenaline Wrote:  Don't think it's me. I've literally been asked to model on a couple of occasions, have done well in Bangkok previously and also clean up on the Thai islands and other places so certainly don't lack game. In saying that, my game is very passive, so maybe I need to be a bit more aggressive with higher quality Thai girls. I just think the stigma is increasing and the quality girls are aware that being receptive with a foreigner will get them labelled.

My 5s are probably your Issan 7 and 8s because I don't find them attractive at all, so that doesent surprise me. Getting those types is like shooting fish in a barrel, but I ain't interested in that anymore- aiming higher.

You're entitled to your opinion but I think we're playing a completely different game man with completely different goals.

You're banging models and i'm banging rice farmers, got it. Even though it's you that can't attract any decent looking women in Bangkok.

There is not a country in the world where a girl won't get looked down upon by certain segments of society for dating a foreigner. That being said, i would much rather be in Thailand with my Thai girlfriend than in Europe where i always get snide remarks from friends and family like "oh, you're with one of those Thai girls", implying that she must be a prostitute or a slave laborer on a rice farm. The most i've gotten here in Thailand is a nasty look once or twice and that was out in the sticks.

Isaan girls can be very beautiful and make great girlfriends. A lot of Thai men i've spoken to want to go to Isaan to find a wife because they are still traditional and not as Westernized as Bangkok women. Even some of these hi-so girls or their wannabe's are not that hard to get either. Again, if you really are that good looking and have your shit together it shouldn't be all that difficult, to say the least.

I don't doubt your opinion, Adrenaline. But saying that it's game over for farangs and the only girls we can attract are the bottom of the barrel is just not true. Some guy thinking of going to Thailand might read that and make up his mind that it's not good anymore and you could potentially rob him of the experience of a lifetime, so i felt a correction was in order.

(02-16-2017 10:38 AM)Dirty Harry Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 12:15 AM)Adrenaline Wrote:  Don't think it's me. I've literally been asked to model on a couple of occasions, have done well in Bangkok previously and also clean up on the Thai islands and other places so certainly don't lack game. In saying that, my game is very passive, so maybe I need to be a bit more aggressive with higher quality Thai girls. I just think the stigma is increasing and the quality girls are aware that being receptive with a foreigner will get them labelled.

My 5s are probably your Issan 7 and 8s because I don't find them attractive at all, so that doesent surprise me. Getting those types is like shooting fish in a barrel, but I ain't interested in that anymore- aiming higher.

You're entitled to your opinion but I think we're playing a completely different game man with completely different goals.

You're banging models and i'm banging rice farmers, got it. Even though it's you that can't attract any decent looking women in Bangkok.

There is not a country in the world where a girl won't get looked down upon by certain segments of society for dating a foreigner. That being said, i would much rather be in Thailand with my Thai girlfriend than in Europe where i always get snide remarks from friends and family like "oh, you're with one of those Thai girls", implying that she must be a prostitute or a slave laborer on a rice farm. The most i've gotten here in Thailand is a nasty look once or twice and that was out in the sticks.

Isaan girls can be very beautiful and make great girlfriends. A lot of Thai men i've spoken to want to go to Isaan to find a wife because they are still traditional and not as Westernized as Bangkok women. Even these hi-so girls or their wannabe's are not that hard to get either. I'm with one right now. Again, if you really are that good looking and have your shit together it shouldn't be all that difficult, to say the least.

I don't doubt your opinion, Adrenaline. But saying that it's game over for farangs and the only girls we can attract are the bottom of the barrel is just not true. Some guy thinking of going to Thailand might read that and make up his mind that it's not good anymore and you could potentially rob him of the experience of a lifetime, so i felt a correction was in order.

Define "Hi-So" girl. I hear this term being thrown around all over the place on girls who'd be considered middle class at best in the US. These are the 0.001% of the population in Thailand, and hang out at Siam Paragon and Emquartier. They are hard to get, and damn near impossible to meet besides social circle.

I had one fluke date with a Hi So. Her jewelry cost more then my entire monthly western salary, probably her watch could pay a yearly salary for most Thais. If i had more time, would have closed, but alas flew out before could close the deal.

From my very limited experience, upper tier in Thai culture is reserved for local guys / American Thais or guys who can look the part (Chinese Mix).

As a EA looking AA, it takes SERIOUS game to pull anything of quality in BKK. Aka you must have good enough game to pull girls in your 1st world EA country or back in the west. There is so much LMR to over come, and to be honest the sex is just not that good (in line with other EA local girls)

But I did manage to bed a few 7's and what I consider to be an 8. No way I could do that in a week in 1st world EA.

Isaan girls are the exception, and very easy to get in bed, and fuck like champs. But their mannerisms in my limited experience were all terrible, and not date worthy at all.

It's like Isaan vs rest of Thailand. Night and Day. Subconsciously they must know they are on the bottom of the food chain in Thailand. If you can find an EA looking Isaan girl, you hit the gold arbitrage jackpot. She will act like a 4/5 when she might be a 6/7.

Traditional Thai Chinese girls are in line with difficulty of Japan / China, but thankfully if you can get them a little booze, things loosen up significantly.

And Adrenaline has a very valid point, Western guys like the Tanned look, which is a -1 to -2 for the locals here, so you may think you're banging 7's and 8's when its 5's and 6's in real life.

Ever occurred to you when you're in Europe, your lady is giving that poor farmer / weird vibe. I've traveled around with a few light skinned SEA and never got any comment once, never.

My hunch is Adrenaline is giving a more accurate picture. All the foreigners I met randomly while at the nightlife massively over inflate their ratings. If she's skinny, at least a 6+. Makes sense coming from Anglosphere where half the girls are damn pigs.

Which is why I make a point to only date Asians who've never lived abroad in a Western country. Even one year in a thirsty country completely inflates their ego.

Still for any good looking EA guy with game, you're gonna pull decent quality that's better then your home EA country. The cheap food and booze is an added bonus.

The real hi-so's are the upper class of Thailand. You're right, as a foreigner you will probably never interact with them in a social setting or fuck their women. Then you have a class below that which is made up more of new money types. I know a guy from my home country married to one of these women. They have money but are not considered as the real upper class.

I've never brought a girl back to Europe but it doesn't matter. They don't care what the girl looks like. As soon as they hear i'm in Thailand they've already made up their minds. My next door neighbour is married to a Chinese woman, he got shit on all the time and his wife is light skinned, their kids got bullied in school.

Tanned or light skinned i really don't care. If she's hot i will want to fuck her. I know most Asians prefer light skin but i'm not most Asians. I'm not here to get a higher standing in Thai society because i'm not Thai so that is closed off to me already. The girl i'm with right now is light skinned and i would consider her middle class. It won't be long before i kick her to the curb i can tell you that. Constant status whoring on Instagram and Facebook, entitled attitude. These girls are good for a fuck and to brag to some Thai dudes but other than that, not much.

I don't think he painted an accurate picture Putin Closes, it doesn't match my experience here and what i see around me. We all have our different opinions. There is still a significant niche for Western men with their shit together and i see an increasing number of Western man/Thai female couples compared to 2 or 3 years ago. Lots of younger guys too. Ofcourse, it goes without saying that if you're a real piece of work or just simply undesirable you're going to get women at your level or you have to pay for it. Law of attraction and all that.

How much money a girl have or which social class she belongs to do not matter to much to me. As long as she is not dirty poor and have to take the public buss to see me or work a shitty job 60 hours a week, I could not care less. Actually does really rich girls are more stupid than the normal girls because they pay someone to do their school work.

(02-16-2017 12:48 PM)Dirty Harry Wrote:  There is still a significant niche for Western men with their shit together

I did concede this in my initial post a couple of times, but to get the value from having your shit together, you need to stay long term and live in Bangkok for a substantial period of time. My observations were more related to guys who can't do that and only want to go to Bangkok for shorter bang trips, especially if they're solo and don't have friends in the city. I just found the attitudes of the higher quality girls that I'm interested in, whether it be the shopping malls, Thai clubs, or on the streets to be "Oh great, another foreigner who thinks they own the place". Not only are we no longer a novelty, we're an annoyance to anyone other than Issan girls and a percentage of poorer, low-average quality Thai girls. If you're happy banging them, that's great. I envy you; but I've been there, done that, and am over it. The other exception is mixed girls- I got with a half Thai/half Arab girl (7.5-8) and half Thai/half Japanese girl (7) and both their attitudes seemed much better than the pure Thai girls.

Out of curiosity, how long have you been in Bangkok?

(02-16-2017 07:23 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 12:48 PM)Dirty Harry Wrote:  There is still a significant niche for Western men with their shit together

I did concede this in my initial post a couple of times, but to get the value from having your shit together, you need to stay long term and live in Bangkok for a substantial period of time. My observations were more related to guys who can't do that and only want to go to Bangkok for shorter bang trips, especially if they're solo and don't have friends in the city. I just found the attitudes of the higher quality girls that I'm interested in, whether it be the shopping malls, Thai clubs, or on the streets to be "Oh great, another foreigner who thinks they own the place". Not only are we no longer a novelty, we're an annoyance to anyone other than Issan girls and a percentage of poorer, low-average quality Thai girls. If you're happy banging them, that's great. I envy you; but I've been there, done that, and am over it. The other exception is mixed girls- I got with a half Thai/half Arab girl (7.5-8) and half Thai/half Japanese girl (7) and both their attitudes seemed much better than the pure Thai girls.

Out of curiosity, how long have you been in Bangkok?

We do own the place, its Thailand, can't get any cheaper. Speaking of cheap - the price of pussy is dirt cheap. In fact, its so cheap you can actually buy it with a normal amount of money in your wallet if thats your thing. This translates to non-working girls too, its 100x easier to get laid in Thailand than say South Beach, Hollywood Blvd, Meatpacking district, etc. I think this translate to all levels of girls, depending on your game and looks.

Sure maybe you cap out just below the true hi-so level or whatever. But that's all bullshit anyway. Anyone with real money knows its all bullshit. People who obsess on "hi-so" are really just insecure people that want to be admired, grew up poor, or some other internal issues. It's the same with people who buy Gucci belts to flaunt it around as status. No truly wealthy person buys or cares about this shit, only "hood rich" people do. Plus rice farmer pussy is better than model pussy, it comes with free rice; my favorite dish.

Perhaps, the nightlife has maybe gotten a bit harder (not so easy to do RCA alone anymore), but you gotta shift up venues. RCA has declined because more Koreans have come through and fucked it up with their insular vibe, and the Thai girls that go there now are mediocre at best. I went over to Ce La Vie and it was shooting fish in the barrel. Girls were grabbing my dick. Were they 6/10 farang hunters, sure I guess. But a white, American guy with his shit together can still pull plenty high.

Overall, I'd say Bangkok is best not for pulling massive amounts of girls, but for grinding 12-18 hours a day on a venture. Cheap living, decent infrastructure, pussy dirt cheap (theoretically), good for grinding.

(02-16-2017 07:53 PM)Armogan Wrote:  Overall, I'd say Bangkok is best not for pulling massive amounts of girls, but for grinding 12-18 hours a day on a venture. Cheap living, decent infrastructure, pussy dirt cheap (theoretically), good for grinding.

Yeah that is so true. I've been saying that to all my friends. That's what I did for a good part of 2016. I worked on some projects, learned some new skills and developed my portfolio. Recently I came back to Europe and now I have 6 very good job offers I can choose from. I know that's only because of the stuff I did in Bangkok. Before I struggled to get jobs. I might write a data sheet on it, it really worked out very well for me.

If you're in BKK working on your stuff, you can still go out of course - or if you're too tired for that shit just hire a hooker - not advocating it, but if you're really grinding on some projects it can be relaxing to just hire a girl sometime. It can help with focusing on projects and getting shit done. Depends on what your goal is - if its mainly partying and girls yeah it's more fulfilling to hook up with "normal" girls, but if your main goal is grinding then you can just save time with a pro or semi-pro.

For what it's worth I'm also of the opinion most people inflate the quality of Thai girls, maybe it's the illusion of something "new". The average Thai is actually pretty mediocre at best, genuinely stunning women are few and far between, a lot of the "more attractive" ones have had enough work done to rival Michael Jackson. I imagine perceptions change as well depending on how long you've been here and the circles you move in.

Ah well eye of the beholder and all that, as long as people are happy who gives a shit about a subjective number.

I just returned home from my 3 week trip to Bangkok and i had a great time.. (as always )
I managed to shag 12 girls but i spend a lot of time with a couple who i became fond of (always happens doesn't it? )

Maybe i'm getting old (31 this year) but racking up the notches does little for me anymore.. i cannot be arsed with the logistical nightmare of keeping all the conversations on the go on my smart phone and arranging meets.. It's also dodgy as hell having loads of girls knowing where your room is! I had a bad experience when some salon worker assumed she could come back to my room after she finished work.. The girl i was in bed with woke up me suddenly.. she had a look through the door peep hole so i woke up suddenly to "hey hey there's a girl knocking at the door she's been there for a long time"

Things have changed from say.. 2012 times.. The girls are not as easy to meet up online.. they're more picky and not as easy. Still easy to get laid but not like it used to be.
I remember a few years ago waking up in my hotel room.. playing on some social media apps and managing to get some office worker girl to come straight to my room on her lunch break and fuck me then go back to work.. I would not be so confident of managing that these days

My facebook method worked a treat again.. however i had to go to Chon Buri town to meet my prized conquest 19 year old uni student.. I went into her dorm rooms where she had a basic fan room.. to herself. Those moments i will treasure for ever in my mind..

I just arrived in Thailand last week and the immigration officer told me I will need a visa next time, although she let me in this time without one. I am from the u.s., and I never had any problem here before. I haven't been here in over a year.

Has anything changed with visa on arrivals, and if so, what's an easy way to get a visa? Can I get one online?

Thank You!

(02-17-2017 03:33 PM)hudsonhicks Wrote:  My facebook method worked a treat again.. however i had to go to Chon Buri town to meet my prized conquest 19 year old uni student.. I went into her dorm rooms where she had a basic fan room.. to herself. Those moments i will treasure for ever in my mind..

Let's hope that we're not talking about the same girl - I did something like that 4 months ago in Chon Buri and I think she was 19 as well. If her Line ID starts with Z, there's a chance that we're eskimo brothers.

(02-19-2017 11:11 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  I just arrived in Thailand last week and the immigration officer told me I will need a visa next time, although she let me in this time without one. I am from the u.s., and I never had any problem here before. I haven't been here in over a year.

Has anything changed with visa on arrivals, and if so, what's an easy way to get a visa? Can I get one online?

Thank You!

They questioned me (I have had 3 visas before) and I just told her I work online and live in Thailand. She didn't really ask any more questions after that.

To get a visa you need to go outside the country and get one. Laos is easiest.

I'll be in Thailand for the first time in a day or so. If anyone wants to meet up for a beer or whatever then PM me. I'm starting off in Bangkok and then heading to the islands.

(02-16-2017 07:53 PM)Armogan Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 07:23 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 12:48 PM)Dirty Harry Wrote:  There is still a significant niche for Western men with their shit together

I did concede this in my initial post a couple of times, but to get the value from having your shit together, you need to stay long term and live in Bangkok for a substantial period of time. My observations were more related to guys who can't do that and only want to go to Bangkok for shorter bang trips, especially if they're solo and don't have friends in the city. I just found the attitudes of the higher quality girls that I'm interested in, whether it be the shopping malls, Thai clubs, or on the streets to be "Oh great, another foreigner who thinks they own the place". Not only are we no longer a novelty, we're an annoyance to anyone other than Issan girls and a percentage of poorer, low-average quality Thai girls. If you're happy banging them, that's great. I envy you; but I've been there, done that, and am over it. The other exception is mixed girls- I got with a half Thai/half Arab girl (7.5-8) and half Thai/half Japanese girl (7) and both their attitudes seemed much better than the pure Thai girls.

Out of curiosity, how long have you been in Bangkok?

We do own the place, its Thailand, can't get any cheaper. Speaking of cheap - the price of pussy is dirt cheap. In fact, its so cheap you can actually buy it with a normal amount of money in your wallet if thats your thing. This translates to non-working girls too, its 100x easier to get laid in Thailand than say South Beach, Hollywood Blvd, Meatpacking district, etc. I think this translate to all levels of girls, depending on your game and looks.

Sure maybe you cap out just below the true hi-so level or whatever. But that's all bullshit anyway. Anyone with real money knows its all bullshit. People who obsess on "hi-so" are really just insecure people that want to be admired, grew up poor, or some other internal issues. It's the same with people who buy Gucci belts to flaunt it around as status. No truly wealthy person buys or cares about this shit, only "hood rich" people do. Plus rice farmer pussy is better than model pussy, it comes with free rice; my favorite dish.

Perhaps, the nightlife has maybe gotten a bit harder (not so easy to do RCA alone anymore), but you gotta shift up venues. RCA has declined because more Koreans have come through and fucked it up with their insular vibe, and the Thai girls that go there now are mediocre at best. I went over to Ce La Vie and it was shooting fish in the barrel. Girls were grabbing my dick. Were they 6/10 farang hunters, sure I guess. But a white, American guy with his shit together can still pull plenty high.

Overall, I'd say Bangkok is best not for pulling massive amounts of girls, but for grinding 12-18 hours a day on a venture. Cheap living, decent infrastructure, pussy dirt cheap (theoretically), good for grinding.

Comparing the easiness of the meatpacking district vs your average BKK bar is apples to oranges. I'd rate the average girl worse then NEA countries, girls that look like the girls found in some of these establishments would be easy to pull in NEA as the local guys would ignore them completely.

Also a significant portion of girls I met at Ce La Vie were either ladyboys or hookers / semipros, its not surprising you got your dick was being grabbed. Quality was terrible otherwise. This was on a Wednesday night for their infamous all you can drink ladies night. I can't agree with you there, unless you like that dark skin look.

Go to Thong Lor or Ekkemai and you can immediately see the difference in quality. I'd wager the getting a ONS out of Nung Len will be just as difficult as any top tier place in Asia, probably easier then meat packing, but the girls at meat packing are on a different level quality wise.

Saving grace is online dating. Really, just download Tinder and forget about the nightlife for any NEA girl, unless you a network to work with. I don't get why some guys here are so anti-online. A good looking young guy will get much better quality via Tinder. If you want to see the nightlife, take your tinder date out for a good time.

But if you like the rice farmer look the nightlife is a viable option if you don't mind banging a potential semi-pro. I pulled one such girl while extremely tipsy and highly regretted it after a drunk all nighter.

Putin (and others trolling this thread) if you like white skin so much then why go to Thailand? Japanese, Korean, Chinese...they are still just women (and many love having sex with foreigners).

White-skinned Thais are just women too. Who gives a shit? You're not saying anything new or novel and insinuating that forum members here are all just pulling "rice farmers" is out of line. We all have our preferences but it's classic fail when you try to force your own prejudices on others.

I myself never had any issues getting laid in Japan, Korea or Taiwan. But I happen to like SEA too. Stop with the mental masturbation already.

It's easier to get laid with pale girls online in Thailand. As stated before from my experience here on a short term tinder trip. Probably easier for 7s online then anywhere else. I banged quality girls but none from nightlife. Mental Masturbation? Different pale girl each night minus that one dark skin isaan girl on a drunken haze. I call that results.

You might want to read the member I was replying to who said he prefers "rice farmer" pussy. Of course I am not insinuating all guys are banging rice farmer girls.

If your gonna say you own a country, might as well back it up and give good advice then saying go to ce la vie and feel like a god where semi pros roll. You might want to take other people's perspective instead of putting out a troll comment. My advice:
Save your money use online. If you have anything to refute my point, go ahead and respond which nightlife places you think are easier to pull quality girls. Bangkok is great for quality online girls. For quality girls via nightlife, I think not.