Post: #101

(09-22-2014 01:32 AM)Tigre Wrote:  This show is coming back next month for a second season.

Preview video here.

One of the storylines is a fat 41 year old single mom bringing in a 26 year old Tunisian fiance.

Wow...just wow! The 41 year old's problem isn't her age - she looked like a monster at 21 probably! The real question I have - who would have sex with a monster like that to produce 3 children? My guess,this Moroccan guy will eventually hook up with one of her teenage daughters!

Post: #102

(09-22-2014 05:04 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 01:32 AM)Tigre Wrote:  This show is coming back next month for a second season.

Preview video here.

One of the storylines is a fat 41 year old single mom bringing in a 26 year old Tunisian fiance.

Wow...just wow! The 41 year old's problem isn't her age - she looked like a monster at 21 probably! The real question I have - who would have sex with a monster like that to produce 3 children? My guess,this Moroccan guy will eventually hook up with one of her teenage daughters!

Lol! The guys culture disapproves of something even remotely close to this. He is just looking for a ticket to Europe, Canada, or the US. She was just the first woman to bite.

Post: #103

(09-22-2014 06:48 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 05:04 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 01:32 AM)Tigre Wrote:  This show is coming back next month for a second season.

Preview video here.

One of the storylines is a fat 41 year old single mom bringing in a 26 year old Tunisian fiance.

Wow...just wow! The 41 year old's problem isn't her age - she looked like a monster at 21 probably! The real question I have - who would have sex with a monster like that to produce 3 children? My guess,this Moroccan guy will eventually hook up with one of her teenage daughters!

Lol! The guys culture disapproves of something even remotely close to this. He is just looking for a ticket to Europe, Canada, or the US. She was just the first woman to bite.

That's crazy. I wonder how that is going to make it past the visa office! That shit looks suspicious all over.

Post: #104

(09-22-2014 08:10 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 06:48 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 05:04 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 01:32 AM)Tigre Wrote:  This show is coming back next month for a second season.

Preview video here.

One of the storylines is a fat 41 year old single mom bringing in a 26 year old Tunisian fiance.

Wow...just wow! The 41 year old's problem isn't her age - she looked like a monster at 21 probably! The real question I have - who would have sex with a monster like that to produce 3 children? My guess,this Moroccan guy will eventually hook up with one of her teenage daughters!

Lol! The guys culture disapproves of something even remotely close to this. He is just looking for a ticket to Europe, Canada, or the US. She was just the first woman to bite.

That's crazy. I wonder how that is going to make it past the visa office! That shit looks suspicious all over.

This looks obvious,but the authorities can't deny fiancee visa based on their opinion. Thank God! Because many men would be denied too when they were applying for visas for their much younger girl friends! There is another hurdle however : once they get married,he will apply for the residence permit ( green card) and they will have an interview. Very often their faith will be in hands of hippo feminist pig who will decide that their relationship can't be legitimate.

Post: #105

(09-22-2014 09:22 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:10 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 06:48 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 05:04 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 01:32 AM)Tigre Wrote:  This show is coming back next month for a second season.

Preview video here.

One of the storylines is a fat 41 year old single mom bringing in a 26 year old Tunisian fiance.

Wow...just wow! The 41 year old's problem isn't her age - she looked like a monster at 21 probably! The real question I have - who would have sex with a monster like that to produce 3 children? My guess,this Moroccan guy will eventually hook up with one of her teenage daughters!

Lol! The guys culture disapproves of something even remotely close to this. He is just looking for a ticket to Europe, Canada, or the US. She was just the first woman to bite.

That's crazy. I wonder how that is going to make it past the visa office! That shit looks suspicious all over.

This looks obvious,but the authorities can't deny fiancee visa based on their opinion. Thank God! Because many men would be denied too when they were applying for visas for their much younger girl friends! There is another hurdle however : once they get married,he will apply for the residence permit ( green card) and they will have an interview. Very often their faith will be in hands of hippo feminist pig who will decide that their relationship can't be legitimate.

Actually they can. They deny shit all the time for litany of reasons. I just made a post about this in another thread here.

Their age is not the issue at all. Their relationship and the amount of proof they provide will most likely be the basis for a denial. The shit tests at the interview are also another thing, but that is heavily dependent upon the VO (Visa Officer). That said, I cannot imagine this show letting them fail, because that would hurt the ratings. A good lawyer is relatively cheap enough to prevent a paperwork/application snafu as well.

I dunno, they both seem retarded. Like too dumb to even provide the proper evidence correctly. Also him saying he wants to see what the women in the USA look like is a major red flag on camera, and could hurt him in the future like you just said.

Post: #106

No girl wants to date a boring guy with no game, no amount of 'traditional' will ever change that. What a treat it must be for a foreign women to meet a guy with game.

I gotta say, almost ALL of these relationships are setup for failure. You can't just spend a couple days with a person and decide that in those few days, you are meant for each other... I just don't see it.. I was a staunch anti-marriage guy before I met my wife and it took me going to the hospital and having her there standing by all the way to decide that I wanted to keep her and really start up a family. When the sh1t hits the fan, that's when the real person comes out and you really need those moments to understand the other person.

You guys know I'm no fan of China, but I miss my wife so much I'm ready to pack my bags and head on back, it's a little different being away from someone you've had in your life for 4 years vs a couple months. These guys? I don't think they've had much contact outside SKYPE and definitely never lived through any life altering experiences. Unless you live through the sh1t of their country with them, you can never truly understand why they act the way they do. If you are seriously considering marrying a girl, I think you should spend at least a year living in her country with her. I question the amount of fun a mormon guy can offer a Brazilian girl... he probably doesn't even know she would beg for the backdoor love that Brazilian girls go nuts for. I mean Brazil is not exactly a 'foreign' country... it's pretty westernized, I lived in Sao Paolo for 2 years and they're not all that much different from us, save they have sex ALOT MORE and they are WAAAY lazier.

And lets be honest here, all of these girls speak fairly fluent English, so they aren't from poor families. I don't think these guys really know what they are getting into but the women most certainly DO.

These guys all act like first month English teachers...

If you watch the first episode, the Mormon's girl is creaming her pants for a Johnny Depp look-alike. It's clear, she WANTS/NEEDS that type of guy, not this stick in the mud. He'll zig and she's going to zag.

Post: #107

Honestly, I bet if Pao the Colombian was to meet the fiances parents early on, they wouldn't have stayed together. I mean she's looking for a MAN with his own house and you can tell she's from money. Most south Americans live with their parents, grand parents, uncles and aunts... she's expecting a different standard of life than what this guy can provide. She's from money.

These guys simply don't have any command over their own lives and there is no way they can possibly keep their women in line.

Sorry I'm getting into this late in the game but I'm watching the second episode and Mormon dude is taking this girl to a grocery store as if she's from the jungle or somesh1t.. this is why its so important to live in the country where these women hail from. She must be thinking to herself " I'm not a fucking retard, YOU ARE". I mean there are grocery stores in nearly every small town in Brazil..are religious Americans really that ignorant?!?

"I can't wait to have kids with you", the girl says "Yeah, not yet".
Are you serious? You've got to be kidding. There is NO WAY this fat guy would have ever got a girl in the USA or ABROAD without using a 'service'. I mean, my wife says almost exactly that to me "I want a baby", me: "No fvking way, he happens by mistake or he doesn't happen". You can feel the desperation dripping off this guy. Any guy who wants to have kids within 30 days of meeting a woman, has NO fvking clue about women or LIFE.

I'm sorry, what the fvk did you just say? Haven't had sex yet?!?!!?!? How the fvck can you decide to marry some chick you haven't even plowed. And the chick who picks the most expensive sh1t out. I can tell you for a fact their relationship is finished, I was with a girl from Mexico who thought like that and in the end its what really tore us apart. You've got to think the same way about money with your girl or the entire relationship will suffer.

I can't believe how stupid these guys act, is this the standard for the American male? I thought Americans were a little more worldly than that? Maybe you guys just have a fuckton of betas walking around. Somebody mentioned that Pao would go off with a biker? I don't think it would even take that, just a guy with his head in the game. These guys are walking around oblivious to their surroundings.

Post: #108

The second season is on tonight. There is also a recap of three of the couples before the season premiere. Looks like they are running the first season right now. Just a heads up.

Post: #109

What are we giving this first girl?

Looks wise she is a WB...maybe 6.5

Guy is def dating below him


This second guy just wants a visa! No way he is in it for looks.

Post: #110

The one girl is dating a famous Nicaraguan pop star

Unbelievable

Post: #111

$20 bucks says the Tunisian guy tries to sleep with the 40 year olds daughter and take all of her money.

Post: #112

I watched the last few episodes near the end and recap last night.

Can anyone fill me in... did all the girls speak English that well to begin with or did their language skills improve during the 3 months ?

Post: #113

@ rishboy77 I think their English got better.

Recap Episode
It was fine, seems like that fat guy from Cleveland and the Russian actually might work, they are talking about a baby.

The Filipina and that fat guy didn't appear on the show.

The hot Brazilian chick is still together with the beta. What was crazy there was an image of her mom. They look totally different. You know that expression - something along the lines of evaluate the mother since she will probably grow up to be like/look like her. Yuck. Her mom looked bad.

I am not too excited about Season 2. The cast doesn't look that great, I really don't wanna watch a fat 40 year old woman. The 2 chicks from season 1 are better than the chicks here (the Brazilian and Colombian).

Edit: Seems like this season is going to have more heartbreak. Last season went fine overall, this one seems to have a few people with ulterior motives. That Filipina chick for one.

Post: #114

Just watched season 2, episode 1. I've actually had some thoughts of going the K1 visa route as well, though hopefully it'll be with an HB9 from Odessa (in my dreams). I think the show has officially "jumped the shark" as now they are featuring American women



Some thoughts:

Once again the first couple is a relatively good-looking American guy (Justin) and his hot Columbian girlfriend Evelin. TLC knows how to make a show popular, and the formula to that is to pick 2 hot people and show them making out and arguing (we can see preview of later shows and that happening a lot). Surprisingly it looks like this couple might make it.

Mohamed (25 year old Tunisian) and his beast of a Fiancee Daniel (41 years old) is a total disaster. Why are they even featured on this show? Is it for "gender equality" and to appease feminists?

The third couple is metrosexual Brett (just can't put my fingers on it but this guy looks beyond gay, yet he's not gay) and his decent looking Philippino fiancee Daya. I'd give her a solid 7, she has some awesome curves for an Asian. Of course you can see that Daya has ulterior motives, she is "too americanized" for her own good, has a gold-digger mentality, and obviously knows she is dating down. This relationship ain't gonna last!

Finally, the only couple which seems interesting Iis Chelsea (25years) and Yamir (28 years). This relationship doesn't make any sense since Yamir is a pop-star in Nicaragua and could definitely do better than Chelsea (though she ain't bad for a blonde chick). Chelsea is dating about 3 points up (though still not as bad as beast Daniel who is dating about 5 points up) but due to her age similarity and outgoing personality it seems she might do ok.

Post: #115

^^ ratings and probably SJWs screamed that they (fat asses) were not represented in last season's show.

Post: #116

Just watched it.
My thoughts mirror yours pretty much.

I'd want to say that Mohammed, there's no way he's going to stick with that land whale. I feel bad for her, but her situation is exactly the same as that of a fat, balding middle aged beta bringing a dime from overseas. Once she comes her and gets flooded with the attention of hotter, younger and richer guys, she will jump sheep in in no tme. The same feat awaits Danielle. I kinda feel bad for her as she put so much onto this, she wants to be loved but her hamster is blinding jer by going for a good looking young guy as opposed to something what her SMV would warrant her. But of course she doesn't want to settle, would she?

Daya does look americanzed with a sense of entitlement which is not a good sign at all.

Chelsea, could be sweet but her vocal fry speaking is making her totally unattractive. She's also shootng way higher than her SMV and Yammir is going to be swimming in hotter and younger pussy in no time. Good for him!

The colmbian chick, of all of them seems the one most likely to make it work IMO.

Post: #117

The guy Brett who lives with two (seemingly) really fat lesbians and is bringing the chunky Filipina back is the epitome of a pathetic beta.

He's spent 11 days with her and then decides to get her a K-1 visa But at the end of the day she's sweeter and better than the retarded women in the US I guess.

Chelsea who's dating the Nicaraguan pop star is a 5.5 / 6 at best and particularly pathetic. She's also got some serious vocal fry in English. Once that green card comes that guy Yamir is gone - back to Nicaragua to game once he figures out how bad the dating pool is in the US.

Almost can't watch this in fact it's too painful. Most of these guys actions go against practically every single gaming/LTR principle that has ever existed.

Post: #118

(12-28-2014 11:17 AM)Akula Wrote:  The guy Brett who lives with two (seemingly) really fat lesbians and is bringing the chunky Filipina back is the epitome of a pathetic beta.

You know it's bad when some guy's mom looks at her son with beta contempt and considers his judgement to be shit and she's exactly right.

That filipina is atrocious. Guys that say she's fuckable really need to get out of the U.S. She's a 4 maybe a 5 in the Philippines. She's fat, with a miss piggy face, and a horrible attitude you can see a mile away. Wouldn't be surprising if she worked in a bar before too.

Post: #119

While what you guys say is true, not all hope is lost for American men, once again the TLC show keeps it interesting by including an average guy who scores with a Columbian a point or two higher than him:

Post: #120

Moral of the show:

1. Don't live with 2 fat lesbians.

2. Look for fiance's from Colombia or Brazil they are hotter.

3. Don't mail order until you took the product for a test drive.

4. Don't bring back girls who look or act American

5. If you do # 4 chances are she will still be sweeter and a better cook than American chicks.

6. Live overseas if possible.

Post: #121

I agree with most of what you guys are saying. It is a bit frustrating watching this show though, that the vast majority of K1 Visas is for American men bringing back foreign wives and we have this stupid fucking show with two of the five couples being the opposite.

One other point is the issue of the typical K1 Visa is a well off older man bringing home an attractive younger wife. And this is not represented at all. I know a lot has been talked about here on this forum stating that the chances of this marriage working are slim. But I think the facts bear out the opposite. For instance the average US marriage stats show about a 50% success rate. Meaning the couple stay married. It has been talked about that FSU countries the marriage failure rate is even lower 60% to 70% divorce rates. Whereas folks that marry in the US with the K1 visa process the success rate is closer to 80%. And that is for the beta weak older men that are marrying overseas. Imagine that those men were not so pussified?

I believe with a man that is more red pill understands Hypergamy takes his time. And more importantly marries a woman that is at least a little close to his stature. Meaning some 65 YO bald fat guy marrying a 24YO HB9 is asking for disaster. But if you are 40 something and have your shit together, good shape, take care of yourself. Have a decent life and income. Understand the red pill world and maintain dominance in your household which is what these women want remember. Maybe keep the age difference closer to 25 years max. Your chances could be better than the 80% success rate.

One other strategy I have thought about that should increase your chances for success. Is marrying your sweet little honey get your K1 visa for things like visiting the US and for emergencies or health care. But set up residency in a third country of your choosing. For instance Costa Rica where you could live like a king for what your income is in the US. Now you have the best of all worlds. You can go to the US if you need to or travel there, or travel on multiple vacations around the world. You would also have the added benefit of hiding or partially hiding your income in your newly chosen home, protecting it from the hyenas at the IRS.

Or another location is the Bahamas cost can be a little expensive but it is not terribly bad if you pick one of the out islands. You can have your own private boat and cross the gulfstream in about 2 to 3 hours. From Bimini to government cut Miami in good weather is about 2 hours 59 miles. From Sailfish Marina in West Palm beach to West End Grand Bahama is about 68 miles. Awesome fishing diving and partying with the locals or the other expats.

I know you guys are mostly younger than me but you do have to be thinking about the future. How long can you do the traveling and whoring around before you just plain get tired. lol

Post: #122

^^^some corections:

FSU has among the highest divorce rate in the world. So an American marrying these women doesn't increase success rate considering they prefer their own.

K1 visa have rules. You have 90 days to get married or she is booted out. It isn't a get pout of jail pass to be used when you want. Plus you would have to show things like you are paying taxes, have a residence, etc to get one.

Post: #123

Actually I am going to have to disagree. It appears from stats I have seen marrying these FSU women from US men the sucess rate is much higher. Nothing is guaranteed. But the stats prove this out.

Not sure what you are talking about on the K1 visa rules. And not sure what you are talking about on get out of jail free card. You already live in the US. 1. Marry the chick. 2. Get the k1 visa. 3. and then live wherever you like. What does this have to do with get out of jail pass?

Post: #124

Any links to stats on divorce rates? Preferably longer term like 5 plus years?

Post: #125

This article is pretty interesting.

http://www.returnofkings.com/4658/dont-b...ign-brides

I have seen others that are on the same page as this one running about 80% success rate. I will see if I can dig them up. But this is not very politically correct stuff. So I doubt many sources will be easy to find.

But anecdotaly I think it just makes common sense. American men are for the most part fairly faithful husbands. All you have to do is spend a little time in Latin America or EE, or Asia to understand how the men in these places cheat at the drop of a hat. At the same time Latina's and EE girls especially Russian and Ukrainian women are all about wanting to get married. That seems to be what they are looking for. At least the ones I have met. Certainly by the time they are over 25 they think the must be married. This makes for a pretty god combination. The rest is knowing the person, having the same understanding of where you are going, good red pill frame in your home. And not too huge of an age/SMV difference.

Of course nothing is 100%. But I am just talking about trying to increase the odds of success not claim perfection. You are still dealing with human beings who change, have baggage even if they come from a good family, and are ultimately fallible.

Finally from personal experience. My dad is American and my mother is Latina from a very good family. They have been married 58 years, never even came close to divorce. And they live in an extensive community of US men and mostly Latin Women I am talking hundreds of couples over the years in long term marriages. And I can only think of one marriage that ended in divorce and in that case both spouses were fucking crazy.

While all this was going on during the sixties, seventies, and eighties all of my friends parents US marriages were splitting apart cheating and fighting and remarrying and divorcing again. Then their kids, who are my age range 40's and 50 YO are now going through their American 2nd and third marriages. What a fucking joke.

As another anecdote in my American neighborhood. Very affluent one of the most desired places to live in the US, we have a large number of foreign families mixed in, China, Vietnam, Russia, Jordan, India, Sweden, Turkey, Sweden, Japan,Columbia, Cuba, Panama, Mexico, Domincan Republic. And none of these couples ever get divorced. While at the same time our American neighbors are dropping like flies.

After a while of looking at this ridiculous mess. You start to realize. You would have to be crazy to marry an American woman. Why would you not marry someone from another country?