Post: #2951

Excalibur, I have a very close friend that both him and his Wife had virtually no chance of having children. They had IVF I believe around 8 times he did not care actually and it did put them well into debt but in the end they had 2 perfect children, with her eggs and his sperm.

Personally I would 100% try this first if I could afford it. Also not sure how it works where your at but adoption in Australia takes years and some serious bureaucratic red tape. Unless you are a tranny with a gender queer lover with a disability or something, its prob. pretty straight forward then

Post: #2952

(10-04-2018 06:03 AM)Hypno Wrote:  However, someone pointed out that a lot of kids who get adopted come from tough situations, so genetically and health wise you don't know what you are getting. The mother might have drank during pregnancy, might have a history of substance abuse, etc.

This part of Hypno's critique of adoption needs to be seriously contemplated and focused on.

There are so many genetic variables in regards to child development, which are scientifically proven facts. There have been studies on this where parents have adopted with zero information about the child's parents and the children turn out to be sociopaths/psychopaths--just like their mom and/or dad.

It brings up the "nature vs. nurture" argument and the facts of that argument have been largely decided by science. You can't "nurture" the psychopath out of a child, nor the drug addict, the alcoholic, etc. You can nurture a child without those genetic inclinations into one of the above by raising them harmfully, however.

That's a risk that I, personally, would be unable to accept. If you know a considerable amount about both parents, then you can use your own judgement. But, if you "blindly" adopt some random child, you could have just condemned yourself to many years or permanent emotional, legal, and financial misery, if not ruin.

Post: #2953

I would do surrogacy over adoption if IVF were not an option simply for genetic reasons. But I am proud adoption. I have relationships with several people who were adopted so I know the pros and cons

Post: #2954

I will try not to hijack the thread into a issue about me. But FYI for guys who are postponing father hood. Your sperm count will decline. I think I had a bad bout of prostitis 5-6 years ago. That is most likely the reason causing my decreased sperm count.

In your 40s your health can change dramatically. My total Testosterone was 800 just 3 years ago, and now its 400. WTF.

Hate to reveal this to you guys, but someone needs to say it, after age 50, the chance of your offspring having autism and ASD increases dramatically. Please don't quote me on this. Do you own research.

The long term health of IVF babies are also unknown. The oldest is only 40 y/o by now. So far they seem ok. You figure if you are OK by you 20s and 30s, mostly likely your life expectancy would not deviate too far from standard. Take a more extreme example, a type I diabetic who takes insulin shot since teen age years. That's a lot of metabolic disturbance on the body, and these guys if they take care of themselves will still live into their 70s with a rewarding life.

The bottom line, there's consequences to delaying fatherhood. Do not think man can postponing fathering indefinitely. My co-worker's husband who is 50 y/o just had a heart attack.

Adoption definitely can be a crap shoot. Interesting the adopted adults I've met in my life all seem very well adjusted. Maybe the f-ed up ones don't go out into normal social environment??
My friend's ex-GF was this tall beautiful, cool Chinese girl. Her Caucasian parents adopted her from China.

My wife and I visited another IVF doctor who will take more difficult cases. We might go for it despite the risk.

Post: #2955

^Men are dying earlier due to stress, bad diet, lack of exercise etc.

I had a mate die last month at age 47, another who led a rough life drinking and smoking had a serious stroke which has left him paralyzed. For the last year it has been one death every other month, men in the 45 - 52 age group.

There are cases of guys in their mid 30s who are dropping from heart attacks, strokes, brain aneurysms and cancer.

Reaching 50 is a serious landmark, it is the new 70.

As for sperm count, there are natural remedies you can use to increase it. If you still have trouble then there is always TRT, which I am staying clear of for now.

Post: #2956

A question for the assembled elders: what is the effect of having an expensive residence on (young) women you bring home? Does it work against you in that they see your wealth and start scheming for the long-term? For younger women it may be intimidating, and an expensive neighborhood often has an older demographic which isn't the best vibe. I'm thinking a slightly bohemian neighborhood just away from the wealthy enclaves may be better overall.

Post: #2957

(10-05-2018 07:37 PM)RawGod Wrote:  A question for the assembled elders: what is the effect of having an expensive residence on (young) women you bring home? Does it work against you in that they see your wealth and start scheming for the long-term? For younger women it may be intimidating, and an expensive neighborhood often has an older demographic which isn't the best vibe. I'm thinking a slightly bohemian neighborhood just away from the wealthy enclaves may be better overall.

Yeah, I think this is a good question. I have two houses. One is a small house in a bohemian area of town, in the city, I have a couple of friends that use this house a couple of nights during the week when they are in the city working. I spend my weekends at the bohemian house and it is my stabbin' cabin haha. It is honestly a shitty little house. The other house is in the suburbs in a stuffy area of town, really a two story townhouse, much nicer but more stuffy. I never take girls to the burbs. And yes, the demographics are just as you describe.

Post: #2958

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Reaching 50 is a serious landmark, it is the new 70.

Yikes, so if 50 is the new 70...then 65 is the new 85

Post: #2959

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Men are dying earlier due to stress, bad diet, lack of exercise etc.

Yes, I am seeing this. Guys who had healthy old parents and grandparents, getting stressed, fat, etc. and dying.

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  There are cases of guys in their mid 30s who are dropping from heart attacks, strokes, brain aneurysms and cancer.

Reaching 50 is a serious landmark, it is the new 70.

I turn 50 in a few months. I am feeling it.

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  As for sperm count, there are natural remedies you can use to increase it. If you still have trouble then there is always TRT, which I am staying clear of for now.

My T was low about eight years ago (I think about 350). I eat about 7 to 10 serious steaks and avocados a week, grass-fed beef. I use one of those sleep apps to track my sleep. As long as I sleep, keep my body fat lower, manage stress and eat those steaks, my T seems to be good (I haven't tested in a couple of years but you can tell, after a while, by morning wood, response to sexual stimuli, etc.).

I'll probably start doing some baseline testing before i turn 50, for a reference moving forward.

Post: #2960

(10-05-2018 07:57 PM)Sgt Donger Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Reaching 50 is a serious landmark, it is the new 70.

Yikes, so if 50 is the new 70...then 65 is the new 85

The sum of the matter is that if you qualify for this thread, then "we are all going to be dead (or disabled), soon"... hahahahaha

In the past several months, I have been quite a bit more focused incorporating a better working out routine, which seems to take a whole hell-of-a-lot of extra time - even if I feel more energy, overall, there are only so many hours in the day.

It really feels good to see progress, though.. and a kind of realization that if we (quasi-elderly) don't keep at minimum attempting to maintain, then deterioration is taking place - and sometimes, we have to attempt to go beyond what would have previously been maintenance in order to actually maintain.

Post: #2961

(10-05-2018 08:02 PM)gmoneysauce Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Men are dying earlier due to stress, bad diet, lack of exercise etc.

Yes, I am seeing this. Guys who had healthy old parents and grandparents, getting stressed, fat, etc. and dying.

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  There are cases of guys in their mid 30s who are dropping from heart attacks, strokes, brain aneurysms and cancer.

Reaching 50 is a serious landmark, it is the new 70.

I turn 50 in a few months. I am feeling it.

(10-05-2018 07:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  As for sperm count, there are natural remedies you can use to increase it. If you still have trouble then there is always TRT, which I am staying clear of for now.

My T was low about eight years ago (I think about 350). I eat about 7 to 10 serious steaks and avocados a week, grass-fed beef. I use one of those sleep apps to track my sleep. As long as I sleep, keep my body fat lower, manage stress and eat those steaks, my T seems to be good (I haven't tested in a couple of years but you can tell, after a while, by morning wood, response to sexual stimuli, etc.).

I'll probably start doing some baseline testing before i turn 50, for a reference moving forward.

Is your sleep tracking device specifically dedicated towards sleep?

I'm thinking that something like this might not be a bad thing for me?

Several years ago, I recognized the value of sleep, but I go through stages of kind of disrespecting the sleep, so I am thinking that if I were to use a tracking device (since I can be a bit of a technical geek), then it might inspire me to become a bit more systematic about both measuring what happens and then trying to improve whatever I am doing.

Post: #2962

I don't mess with beef like that, I eat maybe 3 steaks in a year.

Greens are your friend. Beets are great for the wood and celery.

I should eat more fruit, but the fruit they sell has no seeds and tastes like chemicals where I live.

Morning wood is a great sign that things are working well.

Post: #2963

(10-05-2018 08:54 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I don't mess with beef like that, I eat maybe 3 steaks in a year.

Greens are your friend. Beets are great for the wood and celery.

I should eat more fruit, but the fruit they sell has no seeds and tastes like chemicals where I live.

Morning wood is a great sign that things are working well.

Probably, if there are ways to measure woody consistency, then that would be good. I think I had a woody all through my highschool years, but after going into my upper 40s, it surely does not seem to come as easily.

For example, in my 20s, there were times of sex 5 times a day (I think even in my 30s), but currently, in my 50s, if I can perform a couple of times a day I am doing well, and if I see my gf - which might be over a three day period of time, I have to work various techniques to keep the woody coming - which sometimes just doesn't seem to work - even though I am turned on by her..

And this ability to woody can change with amount of rest, exercise and diet, and likely a good thing to measure health.

I personally have a different way of thinking that you, rudebwoy, at least in terms of the value of meat in regards to good nutrition. Likely there are aspects we could agree upon, such as the dangers of too many carbohydrates (at least the junk food aspects), but then there are also theories that if you eat too much meat without fat, then that is not good for you, either because if you eat too many proteins there is a Gluconeogenesis issue (which means turning the excess protein to sugar).

I personally consider that eating meat with its fat to be the best (I say, "don't trim the fat,"), and mostly I came to these conclusions into my mid-40s and after reading a lot about differentiating fats and about good fats versus bad fats (mostly the artificial ones - partially hydrogenated ones). Furthermore, , and trying to cook with natural oils to be good, such as coconut oil or animal fats, and not any of the oils that say partially hydrogenated on them...

I understand that some guys are still cooking with bad oils, even older guys, and surely if I go to a restaurant, frequently I expect that they are using cheap oils, so I do eat the "bad" stuff, too... while trying to be somewhat selective in minimizing some of what I believe to be oils that are harder for our bodies to process, especially when we are older we don't likely have as good of tolerance to abuses.

Of course, there are some folks with the carnivore diets who are moving completely over to meat, and that seems a bit extreme, too, yet I am suspecting that they will do fairly well on the woody test, at least in the first 6 months of changing to such diet... ..

Post: #2964

(10-05-2018 08:13 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  Is your sleep tracking device specifically dedicated towards sleep?

I'm thinking that something like this might not be a bad thing for me?

Several years ago, I recognized the value of sleep, but I go through stages of kind of disrespecting the sleep, so I am thinking that if I were to use a tracking device (since I can be a bit of a technical geek), then it might inspire me to become a bit more systematic about both measuring what happens and then trying to improve whatever I am doing.

I started using Sleep Cycle in 2011 or so and used it for about 14 months then fell off. I am using Sleep Cycle again the past few months. Not always but a lot of the time. I might look at devices. Or a dedicated, old iPhone to setup in the bedroom as it has to stay on a charger all night.

I also recorded my sleep with Audacity and a laptop a few times to see if I was snoring but they have that in the Sleep Cycle app now.

Post: #2965

(10-05-2018 08:54 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Greens are your friend. Beets are great for the wood and celery.

I should eat more fruit, but the fruit they sell has no seeds and tastes like chemicals where I live.

Morning wood is a great sign that things are working well.

Oh yeah, I just had a huge pile of greens for dinner tonight, with a couple of eggs cooked in the middle. I used to eat greens every day, spinach, collard, kale,etc. Cooked in a little oil or grease, but I got out of the habit and just got back to it recently.

Yeah, there is something to just waking up and feeling good (well slept and with morning wood). When you go years feeling like shit every morning then start feeling good again, it is magical.

Post: #2966

(10-05-2018 10:13 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  Of course, there are some folks with the carnivore diets who are moving completely over to meat, and that seems a bit extreme, too, yet I am suspecting that they will do fairly well on the woody test, at least in the first 6 months of changing to such diet... ..

I was just in Latin America for a month and I literally ate the same thing every weekday, small veggie omelet with a salad in the morning and a steak and an avocado in the evening or I fasted and one day a week I ate carbs for a six hour cheat period.

I was in full boner beast mode by the end of that and dropped a pant size.

Post: #2967

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Post: #2968

If you are 70 and still alive, you would look back at age 50 and think shit I really wasn't old at all. When I was 20 I thought my god 30 is old! At 30 I though my god 40 is old! Im 43 and feel pretty much the same physically as I did at 20, no where near as horny which is good. Apart from wishing I had of done things different.

I have always looked after myself to the point of obsession, If your not the type of person to do this, I guess things will be very different for you as you age.

Not trying to talk it up but to add perspective, I would say Im in the top 10 to 5 % of guys for my age looks and fitness wise. Its great, very powerful motivator for me. When I was 20 I was way outclassed, competition is fierce at this age. Guys I knew from my past that way out competed me and girls that were way way out of my league I still know, well, father time has been very cruel to. A guy that was the shit in high school looks a good bit like Winston Churchill now. lol.

This is all vain pretentious shit I know, but that is very much part of who we are as human beings. Personally as a single guy with no kids never married Im in a great place, but I do know I need to start acting soon to secure a quality mate and kids. And I do have many, many regrets.

Post: #2969

I'm just now (in the last year) discovering the benefits of intermittent fasting (IF). The real fact of the matter is that almost everything we--our generation--were taught about nutrition is utter nonsense. It was completely plucked out of thin air by a few doctors, scientists, psuedo-scientists, and the various food industries. The 3 meals/day, breakfast is the most important meal, fruits are "good for you," and eat lots of dairy products model was almost entirely incorrect and had very little scientific basis.

That gave away to fat-o-phobes, which in turn gave away to carb-o-phobes, which turned to "small meal 'grazing' all day instead of 3 large meals" supposedly to "kick-start and keep your metabolism going!"

When I started IF, I figured I would "give it a shot" because I had tried everything else and nothing worked for me. In the first month of IF, I lost 16 lbs and had to start breaking out the old clothes (thank God I didn't toss them when I got the mid-life chub-around beginnings of a "Dad Bod"). I'm still trimming down and staying healthy. I started making strength gains after years of stagnation.

There were unexpected benefits that I didn't foresee:

1. My sleep dramatically improved. I used to have to take quite a bit of sleep medication, but that is gone now.

2. I started saving time and money. Food preparation is simple now and I'm not constantly cooking and washing dishes. Just once per day.

3. All of my labs greatly improved. My blood work came back after a doctor visit and the doc was floored.. Everything had improved across the board.

4. My mental focus and clarity improved. This is most likely related to the improved sleep patterns which began when I started IF.

5. My energy went through the roof. I thought I'd be hungry and sluggish, constantly thinking of food. That's not the case. The first 4 days are a bit uncomfortable because you are so used to eating all the time. But, if you're familiar with fasting, you know this is only temporary. I now eat one meal a day and I do not have those pangs of hunger.

6. Morning wood became even more frequent and my libido increased.


It's quite simple and effective. I shared the concept (and specifically my variation) of it with forum member Godfather Dust who had asked for help this summer in the following thread (/thread-68678.html). He followed my advice and has lost more than 50 lbs and his health has improved. It literally changed his life as it has mine. Most of the assistance I offered him is in that thread, but there was a lot of auxiliary bits and pieces we hashed out through PM's.

I recently summarized the concept in another thread where someone was seeking advice on cutting and weight loss. If you're interested, here it is:

Intermittent Fasting with a 4-hour eating window.

Do not consume a single calorie outside that window. Keep the window the same each day, it can be any 4 hours you choose. Some people like eating at night, some like daytime. Doesn't matter at all. Make it work with your schedule.

Only things outside that window: water, black coffee, black tea (no herbal teas), substitute sweeteners are allowed if you want.

Avoid sugar at all costs. Even fruit! Fruit is largely nothing but sugar and fiber. Get your fiber elsewhere. Sugar is poison. Alcohol is poison (and full of sugar). Both should be avoided at all costs.





No junk food or typical snack food. No frozen dinner bullshit. You should eat clean and fresh food. This is pretty easy to do since you are really only going to prepare food once per day.

Eat as much as you want, but only in that 4-hour window.
No need to count calories--you, likely, won't be able to overeat in 4 hours if you're eating healthy food because you'll get stuffed.

Limit your carbs but don't ELIMINATE them.
Raise your protein and eat lots of vegetables (variety of colors). Get your fiber from lots of vegetables and cereal.

Take a multivitamin and drink a TON of water: your body is gonna need the water to process all the crap out of your fat stores. That stuff comes out in poop, piss and, sweat, so water is clutch. You can use flavored water (even the fizzy kind) if you want, so long as it has 0 calories. You can have diet sodas, if you drink that unhealthy junk, as long as 0 calories. I'd avoid diet sodas because of several other reasons, but one here and there isn't going to hurt you if you feel you must.

The zero calorie thing is most important--not because you're limiting your caloric intake!!! It's so your liver doesn't detect that you've consumed food and start producing insulin. That's what makes you drop the pounds.
________________________________________________________________________________​_________________________________________

If you want to try it and have any questions, feel free to PM me.

Post: #2970

I'm trying to change my eating habits at the moment, including changing to intermittent fasting (currently with an 8 hours eating window, though I've also done a few 24 hour fasts) and low to moderate carbs. I'm only a few kilos off my ideal weight, but the last few years my digestive system has been increasingly sensitive to all the shitty food that was no problem at all during my teens, twenties and most of my thirties.

I'm highly skeptical about the current craze claiming that carb induced insulin spikes are (one of) the root(s) of all dietary and weight loss evil though - it's been shown time and time again that a simple calorie deficit, regardless of whether it comes from a healthy, nutritious and varied diet (which it ought to for general well being) or chocolate cake, will make you lose weight.

My primary reason for trying IF is that it seems to help curb carb cravings (so in that regard insulin is indirectly involved in that fewer spikes make it easier to keep calories in check) - and I still have a truck load of those. And even eating bread - I love fresh bread - and pasta makes it tough not to jump straight on that chocolate cake afterwards.
I'm eating a lot more vegetables now than I used to, and also still some fruit or a primarily fruit smoothie in the morning (doesn't seem to kick off other wild carb cravings early in the day, and I do actually believe fruit has plenty of good micronutrients, even if it would be the ideal choice to get them from more vegetables instead). And then mostly fish and chicken for meat - though still occasionally beef or pork. I'm also hoping to add eggs back into my diet, but I've been a little sensitive to them the last year.

Post: #2971

(10-06-2018 10:57 AM)MikeS Wrote:  I'm highly skeptical about the current craze claiming that carb induced insulin spikes are (one of) the root(s) of all dietary and weight loss evil though - it's been shown time and time again that a simple calorie deficit, regardless of whether it comes from a healthy, nutritious and varied diet (which it ought to for general well being) or chocolate cake, will make you lose weight.

My primary reason for trying IF is that it seems to help curb carb cravings (so in that regard insulin is indirectly involved in that fewer spikes make it easier to keep calories in check) - and I still have a truck load of those.

Being skeptical is a sign of intelligence. You have to triangulate to see if what they are saying works for you. For me, I have a glucometer that I occasionally use to test my blood sugar after a meal and for a year, I tested my fasting blood sugar. In one year I lowered my overnight fasting blood sugar from about 135 to about 85-90, in my mid-40's (and my A1C also). For sure, I was insulin resistant at the beginning of that process and carbs induced a wild insulin cycle. Now, not everyone is insulin resistant or maybe some people would never develop type-2 diabetes.

There is this concept in science called Lethal Dose 50 or LD50. It means, what is the dose where 50 percent of the subjects (animals) die. Now, you might say a substance is poisonous but only 50 percent of the subjects dosed will die at a certain level.

Sugar consumption certainly has an LD50 where some will develop insulin resistance and some will not. You have to test yourself to really know. Maybe at a certain carb level, I would gain weight due to releasing insulin and you would not.

Post: #2972

(10-06-2018 11:07 AM)gmoneysauce Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 10:57 AM)MikeS Wrote:  I'm highly skeptical about the current craze claiming that carb induced insulin spikes are (one of) the root(s) of all dietary and weight loss evil though - it's been shown time and time again that a simple calorie deficit, regardless of whether it comes from a healthy, nutritious and varied diet (which it ought to for general well being) or chocolate cake, will make you lose weight.

My primary reason for trying IF is that it seems to help curb carb cravings (so in that regard insulin is indirectly involved in that fewer spikes make it easier to keep calories in check) - and I still have a truck load of those.

Being skeptical is a sign of intelligence. You have to triangulate to see if what they are saying works for you. For me, I have a glucometer that I occasionally use to test my blood sugar after a meal and for a year, I tested my fasting blood sugar. In one year I lowered my overnight fasting blood sugar from about 135 to about 85-90, in my mid-40's (and my A1C also). For sure, I was insulin resistant at the beginning of that process and carbs induced a wild insulin cycle. Now, not everyone is insulin resistant or maybe some people would never develop type-2 diabetes.

There is this concept in science called Lethal Dose 50 or LD50. It means, what is the dose where 50 percent of the subjects (animals) die. Now, you might say a substance is poisonous but only 50 percent of the subjects dosed will die at a certain level.

Sugar consumption certainly has an LD50 where some will develop insulin resistance and some will not. You have to test yourself to really know. Maybe at a certain carb level, I would gain weight due to releasing insulin and you would not.

I think I mistakenly came of as broadly skeptical about the potential insulin related risks of a high carb diet. I do think there are benefits to lowering insulin spikes and blood sugar, for instance in relation to avoiding or potentially even reversing type-2 diabetes.
It's mostly the frequently hailed supposed weight loss benefits I'm somewhat skeptical about. IF, low carb, keto most certainly get results, but I'm still of the old fashioned mind that in that specific regard it really is simply because you end up with the needed caloric deficit. Which could also unhealthily be achieved with daily trips to McDonald's and Dunkin' Donuts (albeit with fairly small servings).

Post: #2973

(10-05-2018 10:13 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 08:54 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I don't mess with beef like that, I eat maybe 3 steaks in a year.

Greens are your friend. Beets are great for the wood and celery.

I should eat more fruit, but the fruit they sell has no seeds and tastes like chemicals where I live.

Morning wood is a great sign that things are working well.

Probably, if there are ways to measure woody consistency, then that would be good. I think I had a woody all through my highschool years, but after going into my upper 40s, it surely does not seem to come as easily.

For example, in my 20s, there were times of sex 5 times a day (I think even in my 30s), but currently, in my 50s, if I can perform a couple of times a day I am doing well, and if I see my gf - which might be over a three day period of time, I have to work various techniques to keep the woody coming - which sometimes just doesn't seem to work - even though I am turned on by her..

And this ability to woody can change with amount of rest, exercise and diet, and likely a good thing to measure health.

I personally have a different way of thinking that you, rudebwoy, at least in terms of the value of meat in regards to good nutrition. Likely there are aspects we could agree upon, such as the dangers of too many carbohydrates (at least the junk food aspects), but then there are also theories that if you eat too much meat without fat, then that is not good for you, either because if you eat too many proteins there is a Gluconeogenesis issue (which means turning the excess protein to sugar).

I personally consider that eating meat with its fat to be the best (I say, "don't trim the fat,"), and mostly I came to these conclusions into my mid-40s and after reading a lot about differentiating fats and about good fats versus bad fats (mostly the artificial ones - partially hydrogenated ones). Furthermore, , and trying to cook with natural oils to be good, such as coconut oil or animal fats, and not any of the oils that say partially hydrogenated on them...

My problem with red meat is because of health reasons, I have issues with high blood pressure and meat doesn't help the situation.

With all animal products, there is an issue with parasites and worms being in fish, chicken and beef. The same parasites will sit in your stomach and feed of the food you are eating, this leads to a few health problems I could do without.

Yes, I eat fish and chicken but I make a conscious effort to have at least 4 meat free days per week.
I tried the vegan thing way back and it isn't easy to keep up.
I hardly eat dairy products because that creates mucus and I don't like having that feeling.

Please don't turn this into a big debate, I have done the research and it isn't a question of being right or wrong. It is a personal choice which I find is working for me somewhat.

Post: #2974

(10-05-2018 10:53 PM)gmoneysauce Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 08:13 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  Is your sleep tracking device specifically dedicated towards sleep?

I'm thinking that something like this might not be a bad thing for me?

Several years ago, I recognized the value of sleep, but I go through stages of kind of disrespecting the sleep, so I am thinking that if I were to use a tracking device (since I can be a bit of a technical geek), then it might inspire me to become a bit more systematic about both measuring what happens and then trying to improve whatever I am doing.

I started using Sleep Cycle in 2011 or so and used it for about 14 months then fell off. I am using Sleep Cycle again the past few months. Not always but a lot of the time. I might look at devices. Or a dedicated, old iPhone to setup in the bedroom as it has to stay on a charger all night.

I also recorded my sleep with Audacity and a laptop a few times to see if I was snoring but they have that in the Sleep Cycle app now.

Thanks. I downloaded a couple of apps that I am going to try with the Apple watch and the Iphone.

I gather that your 2011 sleep cycle would have had some kind of device that you hook up to your body for measuring your heart rate, at least? I am thinking that whatever I use, currently, will be using the apple watch to monitor.

Post: #2975

(10-06-2018 06:09 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  [edited out]

You make a lot of good points in your above post, but you don't really say how you treat fats and oils in your diet or perhaps the approximate percentages and types of fats and oils.

Further, I mentioned gluconeogenesis, and I think that decent contemporary thinking on the topic is that we need to get "adequate" protein - however, if we get too much protein (which is kind of assuming not enough fat - such as trimming the fat on everything), then there can be some issues with getting too much protein, both in terms of converting to sugar through gluconeogenesis... and seemingly over consumption of protein leads to over production of Advanced glycation End-products (AGEs) as referred to in this article.