Post: #1751

I have really revved up my cardio in 2017. I'm stuck at 250 pounds and I'm about 18% body fat. I want to get down to 230 pounds or so to be more agile. I'm running about 3 days a week, rowing 5,000 meters 2 days a week, and carrying a rucks sack and a 10 pound sledge hammer one day a week. I haven't lifted at all this year, because I muscle up and maintain muscle pretty easily. My diet is ketogenic, so I'm eating clean and getting adequate sleep. But it's a STRUGGLE at the age of 48, soon to be 49.

Post: #1752

Anyone else incorporated Apple Cider Vinegar in their supplements/diet, any input? I've heard a some great feedback elsewhere. I just bought a gallon of Braggs ACV and drink a shot every morning. Shits been tearing my guts up though.

Post: #1753

(01-25-2017 12:52 PM)vinman Wrote:  I'm running about 3 days a week, rowing 5,000 meters 2 days a week, and carrying a rucks sack and a 10 pound sledge hammer one day a week.
...

But it's a STRUGGLE at the age of 48, soon to be 49.

Wow. That's awesome.

I wish I could be in the same shape you are.
Just turned 43. I lift and swim 1.5-2 Km 3 times a week.
Keep it up.

Post: #1754

(01-25-2017 12:52 PM)vinman Wrote:  I have really revved up my cardio in 2017. I'm stuck at 250 pounds and I'm about 18% body fat. I want to get down to 230 pounds or so to be more agile. I'm running about 3 days a week, rowing 5,000 meters 2 days a week, and carrying a rucks sack and a 10 pound sledge hammer one day a week. I haven't lifted at all this year, because I muscle up and maintain muscle pretty easily. My diet is ketogenic, so I'm eating clean and getting adequate sleep. But it's a STRUGGLE at the age of 48, soon to be 49.

Stairmaster for 1 hour a day 5 days a week-The fat just melts off of you. Slowly work your way up from level 1 to level 20 and alternate the speed-fat runs away from the Stairmaster.

Post: #1755

(01-25-2017 12:55 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  Anyone else incorporated Apple Cider Vinegar in their supplements/diet, any input? I've heard a some great feedback elsewhere. I just bought a gallon of Braggs ACV and drink a shot every morning. Shits been tearing my guts up though.

I try to have a smoothie every morning to replace a less healthy breakfast. (2 servings of kale, 1 serving of celery, some blueberries and an apple). I add an ounce of ACV because that is an easy way to take it. When I first started taking it I felt more energy, probably because I had yeast in my gut or something. I don't notice much impact anymore but i still take it. Its cheap and natural so why not?

Post: #1756

(01-25-2017 12:52 PM)vinman Wrote:  I have really revved up my cardio in 2017. I'm stuck at 250 pounds and I'm about 18% body fat. I want to get down to 230 pounds or so to be more agile. I'm running about 3 days a week, rowing 5,000 meters 2 days a week, and carrying a rucks sack and a 10 pound sledge hammer one day a week. I haven't lifted at all this year, because I muscle up and maintain muscle pretty easily. My diet is ketogenic, so I'm eating clean and getting adequate sleep. But it's a STRUGGLE at the age of 48, soon to be 49.

We are basically the same age. I feel it too, the way that the fat will cling to you and not want to go away. I got my abs showing about two years ago and want to get back to that.

I have done ketogenic also, had the best results with Slow Carb (4 Hour body - Tim Ferris) and only brown lentils for carbs. But with kids, work, etc. I don't stay on it all the time.

One thing that was good for me while on a cut was cold exposure by going outside in the cold, and some cold water swimming. I was pretty much just doing eggs, spinach, some lentils, daily morning kettlebell, and cold exposure when I got my abs showing.

One major issue can be reward eating. When I up my cardio I also end up cheating more (reward eating).

Your post has me inspired. I'm going to hit it as I want some fucking pictures from the beach this summer where I don't have fucking fat poking over my board shorts.

G

Post: #1757

The older I've become, the more I've found value in doing cardio -- and that holds true as I approach 40 here very soon. I don't enjoy doing cardio in the moment, as to me it's just a long boring grind spiked with discomfort. But the post-workout buzz is a nice plus, and the physical effects are well worth the effort. I'm in much better shape now than I was at 30, though that is due to hard work and improved decisions about what I eat.

Keeping the proper perspective on the whole age thing is important, I've found, as it plays a key role in maintaining a strong frame. The way I see it, my SMV has been going up slowly but surely, quite the contrast from women I know who are approaching 40. Even the girls who proved adept at wall-dodging at 25 or 30 or 35 find that, eventually, the wall cannot be avoided.

One bit of advice: if you meet an attractive woman in her late 30s who isn't married and doesn't have kids, be careful. And, yes, they really are out there. But in my experience they are all acutely aware of the ticking clock, and most are looking to cash in on their fading beauty before it's too late. And by cash in I mean she wants *your* cash.

It can be fun at first, and the perceived time pressure can help a late 30s woman to rationalize quick sexual escalation in her head. Fewer games. But, especially if she's the planning type, beware that you don't find yourself slotted in the "future husband" role in her grand long-term vision. If that happens and you see *any* sign of contempt from her toward you, be ready to bail. It's all downhill from there.

Many of my late 30s/early 40s friends who told me 15-20 years ago that I was too cynical about marriage have, one after another, eventually told me I was right, usually after their supposed dream marriage fell apart. And the ones who are still keeping it going are mostly either resigned to their fate or hiding their disappointment. Even if they won't say it, I can see it in their eyes -- or tell it from their actions, like having to ask their wife's permission to hang out.

In a related note, some of my friend's wives absolutely hate me. Not so much because of anything I did or said per se, but because of the freedom I have and the reminder I am to their husbands of the freedom they once had. Especially for women who read their husband's emails and see me talking about having three girls on three different sides of the city and a hookup in Vegas... it doesn't tend to go over well.

There are a few buddies of mine who are legit happily married, but that tends to be the exception and not the rule. And, with a few of them, I wonder if they're just particularly adept at hiding reality.

Post: #1758

(01-25-2017 11:46 PM)Kilgo Wrote:  The older I've become, the more I've found value in doing cardio -- and that holds true as I approach 40 here very soon. I don't enjoy doing cardio in the moment, as to me it's just a long boring grind spiked with discomfort. But the post-workout buzz is a nice plus, and the physical effects are well worth the effort. I'm in much better shape now than I was at 30, though that is due to hard work and improved decisions about what I eat.

Keeping the proper perspective on the whole age thing is important, I've found, as it plays a key role in maintaining a strong frame. The way I see it, my SMV has been going up slowly but surely, quite the contrast from women I know who are approaching 40. Even the girls who proved adept at wall-dodging at 25 or 30 or 35 find that, eventually, the wall cannot be avoided.

One bit of advice: if you meet an attractive woman in her late 30s who isn't married and doesn't have kids, be careful. And, yes, they really are out there. But in my experience they are all acutely aware of the ticking clock, and most are looking to cash in on their fading beauty before it's too late. And by cash in I mean she wants *your* cash.

It can be fun at first, and the perceived time pressure can help a late 30s woman to rationalize quick sexual escalation in her head. Fewer games. But, especially if she's the planning type, beware that you don't find yourself slotted in the "future husband" role in her grand long-term vision. If that happens and you see *any* sign of contempt from her toward you, be ready to bail. It's all downhill from there.

Many of my late 30s/early 40s friends who told me 15-20 years ago that I was too cynical about marriage have, one after another, eventually told me I was right, usually after their supposed dream marriage fell apart. And the ones who are still keeping it going are mostly either resigned to their fate or hiding their disappointment. Even if they won't say it, I can see it in their eyes -- or tell it from their actions, like having to ask their wife's permission to hang out.

In a related note, some of my friend's wives absolutely hate me. Not so much because of anything I did or said per se, but because of the freedom I have and the reminder I am to their husbands of the freedom they once had. Especially for women who read their husband's emails and see me talking about having three girls on three different sides of the city and a hookup in Vegas... it doesn't tend to go over well.

There are a few buddies of mine who are legit happily married, but that tends to be the exception and not the rule. And, with a few of them, I wonder if they're just particularly adept at hiding reality.

Yup, that's why the main focus of this thread is older guys trying to get with chicks in their 20s. With chicks in their late 30s and beyond, you can just pick your poison. A chick who's never been married and desperately trying to beat the clock or some chick who's divorced with a couple of kids. Sadly, I think if I had to, I'd chance the divorced chick because unmarried older women are some sort of crazy and have no idea of how to be in a long term deal whereas at least the divorced chick might make better of her second chance. But then you have to cuck up and raise her kids. And yours. Uggh, cold chill runs up and down my spine.

That 21 year old free spirit who uses the word "fam" in every other sentence and just wants to suck an older guys dick because she wants to YOLO is looking mighty nice compared to the nightmarish scenario of the more "mature and sophisticated" woman.

Post: #1759

(01-26-2017 12:14 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  That 21 year old free spirit who uses the word "fam" in every other sentence and just wants to suck an older guys dick because she wants to YOLO is looking mighty nice compared to the nightmarish scenario of the more "mature and sophisticated" woman.

Agreed -- if you're going to risk some crazy, better for it to be from the 20-something hot-bodied blonde with a wild streak than a 39-year-old woman who is playing beat the clock before her facade of sanity completely shatters.

You don't want to be the "old guy at the bar", but I've found that having younger friends is helpful in that respect. Those early 20s women in chance encounter situations tend to be less caught up about age. Especially if you have proper frame.

Some of my recently-divorced early 40s friends are baffled by the modern dating scene. It's somewhat like how Brooks from The Shawshank Redemption was after he was released from prison. Smartphones and social media and dating apps and the like have changed the game.

Post: #1760

(01-26-2017 12:51 AM)Kilgo Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 12:14 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  That 21 year old free spirit who uses the word "fam" in every other sentence and just wants to suck an older guys dick because she wants to YOLO is looking mighty nice compared to the nightmarish scenario of the more "mature and sophisticated" woman.

Agreed -- if you're going to risk some crazy, better for it to be from the 20-something hot-bodied blonde with a wild streak than a 39-year-old woman who is playing beat the clock before her facade of sanity completely shatters.

You don't want to be the "old guy at the bar", but I've found that having younger friends is helpful in that respect. Those early 20s women in chance encounter situations tend to be less caught up about age. Especially if you have proper frame.

Some of my recently-divorced early 40s friends are baffled by the modern dating scene. It's somewhat like how Brooks from The Shawshank Redemption was after he was released from prison. Smartphones and social media and dating apps and the like have changed the game.

Smartphones have fucked everything up. I work with a 33 year old, never married, no kids, and very low n HB6.5-This chick is on her smartphone on Tinder 24/7. She has no fucking clue how close she is to game over. She asked me for advice on how to hook up her Tinder pictures because her matches were low quality garbage and she was not getting good quality men-I had to dump all her bullshit pictures(family photos, group pictures, bullshit travel pictures) and put sexy ones up with her hair down showing she was thin and attractive. She went from bullshit matches to top 20 percent men overnight-Now she she is already disqualifying men she would have killed to get before, flaking on dates, and ghosting on dudes she went out with a few times-and she has started with my pet peev, the impossible fucking checklist(6'4, good job, no kids, interesting hobbies, ect.) all black women have. I hate technology sometimes....

Post: #1761

(01-25-2017 12:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:51 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  quote
I do not have an issue eating clean.. But, if NO ONE's body stays at those LOW BFs naturally then no point pushing it.. (unless some other motivation).



I am going to be honest here, I am fucking vain and narsassistic. When I was in Atlanta I was in the top 99 percentile in terms of my body compared to the top teir "people on the scene"-When women saw me they would stop and stare, comment on my height and body, and outright tell me how attractive I was. Then I moved to Miami, the most body concious place I have ever been(and I have been to LA and Brazil)-Everybody here looks amazing, I am nothing special. Everyone has low body fat, everyone is in shape, everyone has visible abs in their late 30's early 40's. When you go to the pool parties in Miami <12 body fat is the norm - That is my motivation to go so hard in the gym and maintian my weight, also I like making chicks tap out in the bedroom.

One more thing I will admit is I fucking love pull ups. When my body fat is low I can crank out more pullups at a higher rate. Pull ups,heavy chest bench press, deep squats, and deadlifts really bring the man in me out. Weighted pull ups and weighted tricept dips bring out the BEAST MAN in me.

THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!

Miami is an intimidating place to say the least, it is like swimming in the deep end of the ocean.

I also love pull-ups and the pissed of look of younger guys in the gym, when I crank out 100.

(01-26-2017 02:04 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 12:51 AM)Kilgo Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 12:14 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  That 21 year old free spirit who uses the word "fam" in every other sentence and just wants to suck an older guys dick because she wants to YOLO is looking mighty nice compared to the nightmarish scenario of the more "mature and sophisticated" woman.

Agreed -- if you're going to risk some crazy, better for it to be from the 20-something hot-bodied blonde with a wild streak than a 39-year-old woman who is playing beat the clock before her facade of sanity completely shatters.

You don't want to be the "old guy at the bar", but I've found that having younger friends is helpful in that respect. Those early 20s women in chance encounter situations tend to be less caught up about age. Especially if you have proper frame.

Some of my recently-divorced early 40s friends are baffled by the modern dating scene. It's somewhat like how Brooks from The Shawshank Redemption was after he was released from prison. Smartphones and social media and dating apps and the like have changed the game.

Smartphones have fucked everything up. I work with a 33 year old, never married, no kids, and very low n HB6.5-This chick is on her smartphone on Tinder 24/7. She has no fucking clue how close she is to game over. She asked me for advice on how to hook up her Tinder pictures because her matches were low quality garbage and she was not getting good quality men-I had to dump all her bullshit pictures(family photos, group pictures, bullshit travel pictures) and put sexy ones up with her hair down showing she was thin and attractive. She went from bullshit matches to top 20 percent men overnight-Now she she is already disqualifying men she would have killed to get before, flaking on dates, and ghosting on dudes she went out with a few times-and she has started with my pet peev, the impossible fucking checklist(6'4, good job, no kids, interesting hobbies, ect.) all black women have. I hate technology sometimes....

Why would you help her? !!! PS: Elbow flared, need to get back on my pull ups.

Post: #1762

Lol I am the old guy at the bar..and I love it.But the energy I give off is not "old guy" .I'm just a rock n roller with one foot in the grave.
I'll pass on the running .But I love lifting .I get really down now if I have not been in the gym.I don't really care about abs showing.I do have a 4 pack though...and it's important not to have a gut.
I'ts more important that I go out though.Sleep is massive also I've got no game ,no vibe without proper sleep.

I find running ages you.I look at my mates into running and they all look 10 years older than me .I do 5 or 6 km walks up and down hills in my area.I want to give yoga and pilates a try.One of my mates just got his black belt in karate at 59 .That is very inspiring.So is Mel Gibson and Mick Jagger lol.

Post: #1763

(01-25-2017 12:55 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  Anyone else incorporated Apple Cider Vinegar in their supplements/diet, any input? I've heard a some great feedback elsewhere. I just bought a gallon of Braggs ACV and drink a shot every morning. Shits been tearing my guts up though.

There is a pretty thorough thread on the benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar that has some great information.

Post: #1764

Your observation on the consequences of long-distance running is correct - it icreases oxidative stress. There's no need to run more than 3 miles/5 km two or three times a week. Walking like you do, short sprinting intervals or a couple of sets of kettlebell swings will give you all the conditioning you want.
If someone is keen on long-distance running - I suggest upping omega 3 intake and eating some nuts and seeds ( for the vitamin E ).

Post: #1765

LOL I was repped for theis post as Evil Genius regarding launching our own Trumpian baby booms.. so I thought I would share and update...

Saw your rep point and it made me chuckle so I went back and read the post about launching your own Trumpian Baby boom and the openers I have been using... so I reread the post and it was clearly one of my more inspired posts. So Evil Genius plan works for me ;-)

I was in a cocky give an eff attitude moment so I started using these lines below with SA Sugar baby banglerz figuring it would shock them and get me banned from SA for sexual harassment like in the work place.

Well to my surprise the more attractive and feminine the fine Fibonacci ratio face and figured female the more likely she was to respond very positively with comments like thank you, your sweet, or that was the best line I have ever heard.

Even if you do not want her to conceive right away it plants in her subconscious lizard reproductive brain that you are an anti-player as no player wants to be the winner of the Maury Povitch "You are the father!" baby daddy DNA sweepstakes to some slut baby momma.

These are my go to on-line opening lines now - 10% in the 18 to 20 yr old bracket block me giving birth is shocking to their millennial snowflake sensibilities - 80% of 21 to 31 year olds respond that they are flattered... the only others who block me are the ones who expect you to take immediate action to meet up (hook up?) and block me if I let more than a few days go by - so powerful - I let my hair and beard go natural Salt and Pepper most interesting man in the world look and it got me the best job of my life - interesting Cybersecurity work however the 21 to 25 yr olds go radio silent 50% of the time so I am locked on 25 to 32 year olds as I want a few kids and 32 to 42 they are at their sell by date regarding their old eggs and ovaries... feminists who ignore their mother nature only have themselves to blame - men age like good scotch whiskey and mellow over time - women age like milk and vinegar and just go sour.

/thread-60044...pid1473294
Been working this set of stealth baby boom approaches with many positive (LOL Style) responses - seems that most high SMV feminine women consider it a compliment when an Alpha male suggests that they make a mutual plan for her insemination if you do it right - immediately sexualizes the social intercourse without pedestalizing the target banglerz - their beauty is instead commoditized for the benefit of future generations. ... Bang on for America Men:

Variants of the D2 Stealth (Trumpian) Baby Boom Openers:

We should work on a plan to repopulate the world with more magnificent beauties like you!

We should make a plan to repopulate the world with more beauty like you...

We really should consider a plan to repopulate earth with an assortment of beauties - several little boys and girls - that look a lot like you!

Bang on for America Men!

Keep her ballz Deep - Diver out!

Post: #1766

Interesting fitting post by AnonymousBosch over a 22yo being all over a 60-something biker mate of AB:

/thread-61118...pid1506886

Sure - he is probably a tough-as-nails biker with long hair and an entire personality that fits with it, but still - you gotta realize the massive age-differential.

AB put it well - these are great times for older players so long as you play your cards right, stay in shape and have a persona and look going that still appeals:


Biker - leader of the Nightwolves - he is now closer to 60.


This works too.

Even this works, but the sexual triggers are all there:



That guy can still swim in pussy and have girls fall in love with him:


The reality is even that men who are not nearly as good-looking can fuck hot girls - sure the results will be worse than at age 37, but certainly still respectable:


I know the bald guy personally. Can attest for his Game skills as he is a pro - now even more overweight, but hiding it well. He has a stable LTR and hunts on the side since she lets him do it. That is how you can push frame.

What I have seen personally and observed is that older guys with increasing age better move stronger into one of the bangable archetypes:
Rebel/Rocker/
Traveler/Indiana Jones kind of guy
Older rich guy with class and style - if you have the dough - also "most interesting man in the world"

All of those men run daddy game with girls and amused mastery - coupled with iron frame of course. Well - that is how I personally plan to prolong my so-called player-lifestyle, so I certainly observe those things carefully.

Post: #1767

(02-13-2017 03:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The reality is even that men who are not nearly as good-looking can fuck hot girls - sure the results will be worse than at age 37, but certainly still respectable:


I know the bald guy personally. Can attest for his Game skills as he is a pro - now even more overweight, but hiding it well. He has a stable LTR and hunts on the side since she lets him do it. That is how you can push frame.

What I have seen personally and observed is that older guys with increasing age better move stronger into one of the bangable archetypes:
Rebel/Rocker/
Traveler/Indiana Jones kind of guy
Older rich guy with class and style - if you have the dough - also "most interesting man in the world"

All of those men run daddy game with girls and amused mastery - coupled with iron frame of course. Well - that is how I personally plan to prolong my so-called player-lifestyle, so I certainly observe those things carefully.

The guy on the right is the legendary Ross Jeffries. He's still walking the walk, from what I've heard. Though his seminars are expensive they supposedly work. Did your friend attend one?

I generally agree with your identified types for older guys. You can pretty much forget being just a regular guy with a job and his shit together, even more so at that age.

Post: #1768

'SlickyBoy'


The guy on the right is the legendary Ross Jeffries. He's still walking the walk, from what I've heard. Though his seminars are expensive they supposedly work. Did your friend attend one?

I generally agree with your identified types for older guys. You can pretty much forget being just a regular guy with a job and his shit together, even more so at that age.


He is not a friend, but I know him. We almost became eskimo brothers though - heh.

His name is Szabelski and calls himself The Adept. He learned Game as a practical virgin in his late 20s. Back then the only info out there was had in seminars of the likes of Jeffries etc. Now there is good material out there to learn Game. I think that he visited all of the pro PUA seminars.

By the way - Marcin Szabelski suddenly was able to create "chemistry" where before women said that he was a nice and smart guy, but they did not feel this kind of attraction for him. After learning Game they suddenly felt chemistry for him.


no chemistry

a bit later with massive chemistry:


He only offers material and courses in Polish, though foreign guys can probably hire him as a coach as well. He is now over 40, but still plugs on without missing a beat.

Post: #1769

A well-tailored suit and shirt will definitely show off your physique plenty to women. The V-shape announces itself.

The sub-12% bf in Miami is merely one aspect of game. If you're in your 40s, decent shape, dress stylishly and act with class, they all notice whether they're 21 or 30 or whatever. Most girls don't want a guy with less body fat than they have.

Regardless, there's gonna be 5-10 other guys at the big pool party showing off their abs, but only one guy like me. All it takes is Game.

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

Post: #1770

(02-14-2017 02:43 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  'SlickyBoy'


The guy on the right is the legendary Ross Jeffries. He's still walking the walk, from what I've heard. Though his seminars are expensive they supposedly work. Did your friend attend one?

I generally agree with your identified types for older guys. You can pretty much forget being just a regular guy with a job and his shit together, even more so at that age.


He is not a friend, but I know him. We almost became eskimo brothers though - heh.

His name is Szabelski and calls himself The Adept. He learned Game as a practical virgin in his late 20s. Back then the only info out there was had in seminars of the likes of Jeffries etc. Now there is good material out there to learn Game. I think that he visited all of the pro PUA seminars.

By the way - Marcin Szabelski suddenly was able to create "chemistry" where before women said that he was a nice and smart guy, but they did not feel this kind of attraction for him. After learning Game they suddenly felt chemistry for him.


no chemistry

a bit later with massive chemistry:


He only offers material and courses in Polish, though foreign guys can probably hire him as a coach as well. He is now over 40, but still plugs on without missing a beat.

anyone do a Ross Jeffries program?

Post: #1771

(02-13-2017 03:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Interesting fitting post by AnonymousBosch over a 22yo being all over a 60-something biker mate of AB:

(snip)

Sure - he is probably a tough-as-nails biker with long hair and an entire personality that fits with it, but still - you gotta realize the massive age-differential.

AB put it well - these are great times for older players so long as you play your cards right, stay in shape and have a persona and look going that still appeals:

Ok, I saw your post in the other thread asking for descriptions, so I'll do my best, whilst keeping necessarily-vague.

Our success with the young hottie was probably due to these factors:

- we both project an old-school, aggressively-masculine dominance; *

- we both look like we can handle any crap that comes our way without flinching;

- and we both have reached a stage in our life where we honestly don't give the slightest fuck what others think of us, in both style and attitude.

All of these factors are hugely-attractive to women, particularly if there's been a huge void of genuine-masculinity in their lives, particularly if there's now no real social consequences for banging a bad boy, even within a relationship.

The other big factor for the younger women would be 'Sons Of Anarchy'. Biker stock was drastically-raised after that with the Middle Class Women. It wasn't just the pretty boy lead actor who ended up being fantasied about - even the older, uglier cast members had their devoted fanbases, which didn't really surprise me, because they were all playing criminals, and that consistently attracts women. Hell, I remember seeing the Thor movie and seeing how bland the lead guy was and thinking "Ah, he's the perfect boyfriend girls would want on their Facebook profiles, but I bet you they're all sexually-fantasizing about the weird guy playing Loki." Which they did.

In much the same way I predicted the weird-looking guy in the BBC Sherlock reboot would end up a sex symbol to women due to the bored, sarcastic genius character he was playing.

When I was a teenager I used to tease girls with an urban legend that was doing the rounds at the time: that 'cute' actually means 'ugly, but interesting'. It seems apt: chicks consistently seem capable of wanting to bang 'ugly, but interesting'.

So, in a way, bikers are now just a bad boy, UBI fantasy for young women to tick off their list. Realistically, we're about as far from the Boring Dad-Bodded IT Office Worker Gay Upspeak Boyfriends they're stuck with as possible.

As for looks, Bill, the guy in his sixties, looks like a cross between a more tightly-ripped version of this guy:



and Sam Elliott:



Like Sam, he isn't balding and still has all his hair, and has a similar drawling stoicism about him.

Myself? A cheeky ex-girlfriend kept telling me I looked like 'if Tom Hardy went to seed':



I don't see it myself except I guess I'm kind of baby-faced, and chicks tell me I have 'soulful' or 'puppy' eyes. Since I've gone into Epic Beard mode this year, cross him with the physicality of fitness model Chad Lemons, add some grey streaks through the beard, and you'd probably be somewhere in the ballpark:



We obviously-pressed her buttons in different ways - because she was all set to bang him before she saw me. I guess we both look like virile guys who know how to get the job done in a way a Goony Beard Man never can.

I don't think either of us are something guys can really emulate. We just are, if that makes sense. The masculine presence we have comes from years of developing resilience from harsh adversity. My suggestions would be to always keep your fitness level up - Bill is one of the hardest workers I've ever seen, which explains how powerful his lean muscle is when put to use - and to make sure you put your child and young adult concerns way behind you. Differentiate yourself from the 'boys' she's lumped with.

As such, I'd say to project 'Daddy' tells like these:

Strength.
Control.
Power.
Gravitas.
Life Experience.
Wisdom.
Sexual confidence.

You could add intelligence to that list depending on the type of girl in question, though I drastically-downplay mine with most women.

------

* Especially if I don't smile. Bill said to me recently "Your problem [Bosch] is that you're too good-natured a bloke. Your eyes give you away. Far too much decency in them."

He had me there, so I could only nod in agreement.

He flicked his cigarette. "Stick with me, son. I'll train that the fuck out of you."

Post: #1772

^ Actually, thinking more about it, I think what I'm trying to say with 'We Just Are' is simply this:

There's some level of 'faking it 'til you make it' with Game in your younger years, but by the time you're in your Forties, you should be at ease enough with who you are to project your authentic self without being concerned about rejection.

If anything, I'm the one doing the rejecting over the last few years, because I don't see much point in banging girls with a mediocre spirit. If anything, I now am more consistently-judging them for whom they are as people - exactly as Feminists say we should - and by that measure, a lot of modern girls are poor examples of the human spirit where their uninspiring-company will most-likely be matched by uninspiring sex. It's not that my sex drive has gone down - I'd just rather wait for a quality woman for quality company and quality sex.

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(02-15-2017 06:21 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  * Especially if I don't smile. Bill said to me recently "Your problem [Bosch] is that you're too good-natured a bloke. Your eyes give you away. Far too much decency in them."

He had me there, so I could only nod in agreement.

He flicked his cigarette. "Stick with me, son. I'll train that the fuck out of you."

Love that. Women can sniff that out easily.

I gave an uber ride to a group of 20-something women a while back. Picked them up from a restaurant and had a nice long drive with 4 drunk chicks. One of them started talking about some guy they all knew and the girl in the front seat said something like "Sean is sweet, but he's a pussy". The girls practically wet themselves laughing. Then this girl started riffing on what it means to be a pussy, how emasculating it is to be called one... then she turns to me and apologizes. I look at her and say "you don't think I know all this by now?"

It's a brutal world out there and nice guys don't win. I'm not saying it's a contest to be King Asshole, but for god's sake, don't be a pussy.

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Nice guy with an edge is what most girls would love to have.

Strangely enough most Manosphere men become that over time. The psychopathic kind attract pussy too, but they lack stability.

Though women are often blind and don't see the difference between a man like AnonymousBosh, Roosh or Nick Krauser or a true fucked up and potentially dangerous one. They only find out when it is too late.

My tip for champions - do some sort of meditation, contemplation - that way you strengthen your 6th sense perception of vibrations that all humans in my opinion have. Dogs can sense danger and fear. Humans can sense far more than dogs if they train their senses. Vibration is something that humans cannot hide - it is the sum result of your actions, thoughts and feelings. I sometimes get a strong negative vibe with some men I meet on the street and mentally prepare combat options, but I also sense something nasty with certain women - those are to be avoided too. Very spiritual women also have that innate sense - there is something to the Nice Bad Boy prototype that certain pro-PUAs are pushing. You tick off certain boxes of Bad Boy, but ultimately women know this one won't leave you naked in the woods or lead you to a gang-rape for his buddies.

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I'm sure it's been said on the forum a thousand times before but it bears repetition. If you think you are 'too nice', then get into martial arts. This will train the niceness out of you, give you edge and hone your perceptions of those vibrations that Zelcorpion mentioned.

Hell, martial arts are good for you anyway.