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Men, who cares if you 40+, women don't care, they want you for your status, dollars and personality. If you are fun, have a good life, then you will be able to attract poon at any age. For the most part by age 40 you should not be so occupied with poon, unless of course you have nothing else going for you. I'm in my 40s, I tell girls my age, they say I look good, they want to be my girlfriend, I tell them NO, my life is very exciting and a girlfriend will just throw a wrench into the mix. I am not lying, this forum is anonymous so there is no reason to lie. Last week I had a date with this girl who saw my picture on facebook and was friends with my coworker who I have as a FB friend. This girl is 33, nice body, dark skin, sexy mama for sure. She told me her age, she knew I was in my 40s but she didn't guess correctly so I told her. Anyway, she told me straight out " do you want a relationship, do you want kids?" I said NO, I have a busy life, I've dealt with women in my life for too many years and I don't want to go through that again. The next day was the 4th of July and she wanted to come over to watch the fireworks but I ignored her call. I replied to her via text on Tuesday and she replied immediately asking, when can we hang out again??

Boys, hit the gym, take care of yourselves, stop worrying about the women, let them worry about themselves, you worry about you!! Women my age are getting botox and plastic surgery, men my age are hooking up with women 10-15 years younger so who has it better???? (Remember that when a woman tries to shame you for being single at 40).

Tell her you only hook up with girls in their late 20s and early 30s, see how she likes it. Anyway boys, my life is awesome, I go camping, bowling, fishing and I am learning a new language. Remember be happy that you are a man and don't worry about your age, have fun brothers. I will be in Rio in exactly 2 months from today. My life is occupied learning Brazil's beautiful language.

Peace my brothers.
07-10-2015 06:33 PM
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Interesting interview I would like to share with you.

Titled "interview with the real Hank Moody" Tom has talk with a guy in his late 40s, who divorced a couple years ago and then devoted himself to studying Game then and there.

He found Daygame more suitable to him (as you have to have a certain raw instant attraction in Nightgame and most men won't have that after a certain age - some very ugly or short men won't have that even when young). Did not listen to the whole thing yet, but he talks about having gone through 1000+ approaches in 2 years before hitting a milestone and starting to date and bang attractive 20 to early 30 year olds. Keep in mind that he is almost 50.

But he approached it like a skillset that needs to be learned - and he is right of course.
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07-11-2015 08:37 AM
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I'm 40 and I bang, date girls in their 20's almost exclusively. The key is to hit the gym, watch what you eat, have a youthful outlook and be positive and charming (Game). Shit guys, you should be slaying young pussy at this age but you have to look and dress good as a mature man. It throws the hamster off the wheel if you're looking good with some flecks of grey in your hair and solid game.

Most girls I bang don't even ask how old I am...They just know I'm older and don't seem to care. The ones that do know don't give a shit either.
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Yes, you need to pay more attention to diet, rest and fitness as you age. This needs to become regular habit.

A few things that will separate you from guys your age will be in the details of appearance for a clean, fresh and "put together" look.

I color my hair every 6 weeks. Haircuts every 2-3 weeks for a crisp look.

I get my eyebrows threaded every 6 weeks. Be careful not to get them overly sculpted.

As Forest Gump said, you can tell a lot of a person by their shoes. Buy expensive stylish shoes, but the key is to polish and shine them regularly.

I wear fitted dressed shirts Forget ironing, spend the money on dry cleaning.

By 40, you should have figured out your optimal facial hair/clean shaven and clothing brand that accentuates your body and look. If you haven't hire a personal fashion consultant. It will be worth the money.

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Disregard the source, but this is a good guide: http://sluttygirlproblems.com/column/25-...aO-h_kVj74
07-13-2015 08:35 AM
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(07-13-2015 08:35 AM)TheBowery Wrote:  Disregard the source, but this is a good guide: http://sluttygirlproblems.com/column/25-...aO-h_kVj74

#17 "You’re never going to have another, “Oops, I forgot my card, I’ll get it next time,” moment again. This goes along with the chivalry point. He’s a gentleman, he’s never going to let you pay for anything. This also goes along with my future point of spoiling you. Of course, it’s not so bad that you pay for him once in awhile, well, at least attempt to pay once in awhile."

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07-13-2015 09:54 AM
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When I first joined this forum 6 years ago, I was 33 years old, I could still pass for 28 or 29.

Things have changed, I can no longer pass for 29. I now look like a man in his 30's.

Dating cute college girls is getting more difficult, even though my look and my game are better then ever.

The reality is that I am an average, working class, middle aged guy. I don't have any special access or status or fame. I need to approach a lot of college girls in order to find one that likes me. That said, I still enjoy the process and I'm still having tons of fun.

I do lie about my age, Ive found more success when I say I'm 31 versus when I say I'm 39.

As things are getting more challenging for me, I will adjust and evolve by being more polarizing, more aggressive, more flashy, better dressed-- And, -- I will start using social media, "Seeking Arrangement", "Tinder", fetish groups, etc.

The game is getting harder so I will raise my level of effort, creativity, and passion.

I know I have a few more good years.
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(07-13-2015 11:02 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  When I first joined this forum 6 years ago, I was 33 years old, I could still pass for 28 or 29.

Things have changed, I can no longer pass for 29. I now look like a man in his 30's.

Dating cute college girls is getting more difficult, even though my look and my game are better then ever.

The reality is that I am an average, working class, middle aged guy. I don't have any special access or status or fame. I need to approach a lot of college girls in order to find one that likes me. That said, I still enjoy the process and I'm still having tons of fun.

I do lie about my age, Ive found more success when I say I'm 31 versus when I say I'm 39.

As things are getting more challenging for me, I will adjust and evolve by being more polarizing, more aggressive, more flashy, better dressed-- And, -- I will start using social media, "Seeking Arrangement", "Tinder", fetish groups, etc.

The game is getting harder so I will raise my level of effort, creativity, and passion.

I know I have a few more good years.
And.. you still have to wait a year to be on this thread making complaints! Idea
07-13-2015 11:11 AM
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(07-10-2015 06:33 PM)Pendejo41 Wrote:  Boys, hit the gym, take care of yourselves, stop worrying about the women, let them worry about themselves, you worry about you!! Women my age are getting botox and plastic surgery, men my age are hooking up with women 10-15 years younger so who has it better???? (Remember that when a woman tries to shame you for being single at 40).

Tell her you only hook up with girls in their late 20s and early 30s, see how she likes it. Anyway boys, my life is awesome, I go camping, bowling, fishing and I am learning a new language. Remember be happy that you are a man and don't worry about your age, have fun brothers. I will be in Rio in exactly 2 months from today. My life is occupied learning Brazil's beautiful language.

Peace my brothers.

Very accurate. I can't speak for others, but I pursue new girls with moderate effort, it is not all encompassing. Somehow new girls fall into place without a lot of effort now. I'm almost beyond the +1 thing as well. A new girl is great, but just because of a potential new experience...accumulating notches just for the sake of it has lost its appeal to me (and I have far far less than many here).

My life is better than it's ever been. Of course most of the guys I speak to (on-line or in person) are about the life...but most "normals" could not even comprehend that all of this is possible.

I think when you get older, you just become (or should become), more zen, more centered, grounded, whatever. Also, mindset and frame are crucially important to project positive and confident energy. Women pick up on all of this and find it irresistible.
07-13-2015 11:31 AM
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(07-13-2015 11:02 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  When I first joined this forum 6 years ago, I was 33 years old, I could still pass for 28 or 29.

Things have changed, I can no longer pass for 29. I now look like a man in his 30's.

Dating cute college girls is getting more difficult, even though my look and my game are better then ever.

...
As things are getting more challenging for me, I will adjust and evolve by being more polarizing, more aggressive, more flashy, better dressed-- And, -- I will start using social media, "Seeking Arrangement", "Tinder", fetish groups, etc.

The game is getting harder so I will raise my level of effort, creativity, and passion.

I know I have a few more good years.

You are in tough dating market in the US in that regard. It is much much easier for older guys to score with girls in the prime in basically all countries except the Western ones.
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I'm currently in California, 38, bald, broke and am in an open relationship with a cute 18 year old girl. My ex-gf last year was 24 and my ex before her of several years was 24 when we first met. Prior to her, my ex-gf was also 18 so I will share what was successful for me in these relationships. I met all of them on the street.

1) I'm in sales which means I have to be aggressive by default with little to no fear and in my personal opinion, genuine and honest which isn't usually the first thing you might think of with salespeople. Now, when I say aggressive, I don't mean going all caveman, but rather, when I see a girl who I find attractive, I'll go up to her, look her straight in the eye, and tell her she has a beautiful smile. Girls are soooo fucking intuitive and they can sense the smallest aspect of your personality by your way of being and just being able to be a confident mofo can get you so far, whatever age you are.

2) I'm a musician who genuinely likes new music as well as old music, thus can naturally connect with younger people. I have a few old friends and know many older people (and even some slightly younger friends) who complain about new music and how it sucks (ex. trap, dubstep, EDM) and a younger person in that scene doesn't want to hear that shit. I think any OPEN MINDED artist can have an advantage in this because we can transcend "scenes" and organically connect with an artsy, creative girl. But even if you're an engineer, you can still work this because if you have a hobby that you feel a genuine passion for like say photography, you can connect with younger female photographers but you just have to go to the right places to meet them which leads to:

3) Logistics - If you live in Silicon Valley or any other sausage fest of a city/town, you will need to spend extra time and research to uncover the best traffic flows for your target demographic. If you're in Manhattan Soho or in Asia/EE/South America, you're good but anywhere else, bust out the excel sheet, notepad and start doing research. What do I mean by that? Well, one obvious place are the colleges. Using the example of photography, maybe either take a photo class there OR just now where the photo area is and stop by there during lunch DURING THE FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL, bring your fancy schmancy billion dollar camera and SERENDIPTIOUSLY (I spelled that wrong I know) meet some cute photographers. Or maybe find an art gallery opening where they're having cool photos on display.

4) Game - Kinda felt weird typing "game" as it could mean so many things. You could argue that the previous 3 all relate to game as they all fall under becoming a better person who is also employing strategies to meet more women but when I typed game, I meant specifically being aware of a girl's communications, body language, how to touch her, what to talk to her about, eye contact, body language, all that shit. I've been in this for damn near 7 years now that I think about it since the book "game" came out but the hard part about learning "game" is there's no one size fits all. I have both praise and disagreement with many "game" artists/gurus out there. So it's up to the individual to continue learning and exposing themselves to new points of views about interactions with women to see what fits with their personality. My most recent "game" concept that I feel has helped me with my new chica is that of MLTR open relationships which was influenced by JJ Roberts Sex 3.0 and Johnny Sapporno. How has this helped me specifically? Well, especially in sausagefest heavy areas, girls are constantly surrounded by needy guys so to meet someone who is emotionally and sexually mature enough to have open, honest, loving, passionate relationships (side note: if you felt weird reading those last few words, that is female language which would translate to freaky fuckfests for us guys. But you need to up your female communication skills), it makes you waaaaaay more attractive and rare than some zillionaire young buck driving a BMW who is still emotionally immature and needy. But now on the topic of zillionaires

5) I have a plan. Nothing wrong with being broke as long as you have a mission you're working towards. It's not the money but what it represents about you that matters. Now I'm not gonna pretend that having money doesn't fucking help. Duuuhhh.. But to just say it's PURELY MONEY isn't painting the whole picture. If you're pursuing your passion, that is probably the best reason to be broke as it shows you actually are more ALPHA I think since you don't give a shit about what society thinks and are willing to live life on your own terms. You will filter out some and many girls where money is important or place a high value on it but surpringsly, many rich girls and young cute girls will be drawn to you in addition to other girls who are also pursuing their dreams. In my experience, slightly older girls care more about money but the younger demographic from 18-24 will be more open to you so long as you're cool and fun.

6) I'm a freak in the sheets and make a good first sexual impression. That's right. When you do get your shot, you better fuck them well. If you can't, you better eat them well. Do some freaky shit to get them off. If you're all about yours and not hers, she'll feel it. I'll never forget what my ex said after I first ate her out. She said "you're sweet". Your sexual style says something about you. Now granted, if you meet a true M, she might want an aggressive S type guy to suck but then therefore you better have your dick be strong and fuck her good to make her cum multiple times. If you're older, it gets harder to salute the flag than it was in your younger years.

7) Dress stylish that is hip yet not out of whack with your age range. An example could be if you have to wear suits to work, you can either have a salary man look or you can have a nice, fitted, tailored suit. I'm bald but have rocked a cool looking hip hat when out and about. This can take a lot of time and research but well worth it when you're making your point of sale pitch to a girl. I've been lucky in that I've leveraged my ex-gf's tastes in my current wardrobe. I have a few pieces of clothing that I would've never ever bought myself but my exes really liked so I will bust those pieces out when I'm out hunting.

8) WORK OUT! - This is the easiest thing any old fart can do to increase their odds in the sexual race. It will give you more energy, chisel your face to look younger and you'll just feel better about yourself.

9) Lastly and I slightly mentioned this in the logistics part, MOVE TO A COUNTRY WHERE AGE DIFFERENCES DON'T MATTER AS MUCH. If you are an older guy and do have some coin to spend, why the fuck are you still in bumfuck wherever USA? That is the dumbest thing and you deserve to not get pussy. Seriously. I'm a believer in positive thinking and making the most out of your situation, appreciating today ie Power of Now Eckhart Tolle but cmon brother. If you're old and have money, fucking go to a market where your odds are better. It's like if someone wanted to make an iPhone app and they lived in Texas. Dude, you gotta go to Man Francisco or Man Jose. Or if you're an actor and live in Florida. Dude, you gotta go to LA. And similarly, if you want hot young pussy, get the fuck outta the US and go to EE, SEA, LA and all the other well known spots mentioned on Roosh on a daily basis.

Okay, peace out my senior brothers. Bust out the viagra and horny goat weed and venture forth!!!
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^ Also not 40 yet. Come back in two years.

You're giving advice to guys over forty and you're 38 which is not 40.
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Damn el mech, you policing this thread like a Florida condo board screening tenants...
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(07-13-2015 02:04 PM)Menace Wrote:  Damn el mech, you policing this thread like a Florida condo board screening tenants...
Think about it. Do you need a 37 year old mech giving advice here?

OK..

Just buy any boat then pull up to a tiki bar all ripped and tan then tell the hottest girl to get on. Have alcohol. Easy.

The pre 40 guys here on this thread are acting like they are over 40 which is 40 to?? So could be 50 or 60 year olds here too. Do you think they want to hear the whoas of 30 somethings?
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There a another good podcast by Tom Torero entitled “Daygame for 30-plus guys.”  Its good stuff, echoes the points made on this thread. WL (would listen).  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f69rn7uSqQ

he he he......
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Fantastic thread but the further I go back in the posts the more I think El Mech might actually be going senile already.

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You're 100% correct. I'm in my late 40's and have realized the body is the key that opens the door. Drinking more than 2 drinks a night will age your face and slow down your workouts. Not to mention numerous other health problems. Let the girls do all the drinking. This has been difficult for me because i like to drink right along with the early to late twenty somethings before we bone down. I do notice the older girls, late 30's, like to suck down the box wine of which i will not touch. Death in a plastic lined cardboard box.

Money. let's face it, there'll always be and always has been a somewhat even exchange. You want to fuck a young hot girls they like presents. Surprise them with a gift(s). They love it. You're fooling yourself if you think they're not after something besides the dick. They can get that anywhere they want anytime.

Take a look around you..90% of the guys our age have Zero game. Look like shit and act like shit. Turn around those 3 and if nothing else you're gonna feel way better. Once you start feeling better about yourself girls of every age will become attracted to you. Sucks getting old just have to work harder and separate yourself.



(07-13-2012 08:23 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  Ok, I am 59. Last summer I was banging a 20 year old college sophomore.

Such things are rare for me.

But let me tell you, the 40 something gym rats, pilates addicts, and yoga obsessed babes are great. They fuck like animals and suck your cock like it is a coke lollipop.

I don't go to clubs. I do on-line almost exclusively. I have 2 married babes in rotation (I like the marrieds primarily). IN the last three years I have banged 10 different women. I have a nice sex life. I don't do clubs.

I work out hard...have a 34 inch waist and lift hard. I don't have a six pack but I have cut pecs and arms. I can fuck for 3 hours. (ONe of my babes, a 39 year old, says I am the best fuck she has ever had..and she's had a few).

I intend to go hard for the next 10 years. I have good genes, so I look late 40s.

So, here's what I suggest. Drink moderately. Work out hard...HARD. Make money -- it doesn't have to be a lot (I don't have a lot) but enough for a place of your own. Learn to be a charming bad boy. Learn game.

You will fuck into your 70s and beyond. I will be on this board in 10 years and be living proof.
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This one is an easy solve. She's Hot, drinky, she knows guys/girls round the pool. You left, she boned down. Fell asleep? my fuckin ass she did. She and her gang of friends had a fuck fest for an Hour in a guys room. You had her when she said you're super cute. That moment you say lets go to my room and order room service..champagne and strawberries.




(06-17-2015 09:45 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  I've been at a work conference with a terrible ratio the last week. All week this super cute 30 year old flirted with me. I'm 42, in shape and good looking. Today everyone finished early so I invited her to my very nice hotel pool. She comes but we are surrounded by collegues and she seems to know everyone. When we have a moment she tells me she thinks I'm super cute and she sleeps with other guys even though she's married. She was pretty buzzed.
Two hours go by hanging out with everyone at the pool. I was bored and just wanted to isolate. I also needed to pack so I tell her I'm going to my room and she should join me. She gives positive vibes and says text me. I text her 15 minutes later.
Me: I'm in room... would be cool to see you and no pressure if you come.

45 minutes later Her: I fell asleep. When did you send this?

Me: I'm still here.

Her: When do you leave?
Me: in two hours.
Her:I'm a little drinky.
Me: No worries.
Her: I'm passing out
Me: good night then.

I'm not sure what went wrong here. My gut tells me I should have texted right when I got to my room. Any advise/ feedback is appreciated.
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I agree. What I do on occasion is go Monk. Celibate. Clear the mind of girls 100% as a sex objects. And you know what I have told them this. Drives them crazy. Complete bat shit crazy. They'll want you in ways you've never experienced. Longest i've gone is 6 months. Was awesome. Felt great, looked great, slept great. I'd go on a date like i was going with a freind. However, still very respectful, treat them like a lady but before we went out i told them i'm celibate. I'd love to have sex with you but i've vowed to myself not to. I'd also say it's not you..Its me. Very perplexed look on their face. They could see i was being very honest not a scam or trick to get them in bed. Changes your perspective on life and you know what..when you've achieved X amount of days you will be better at everything to do with a girl. Everything.



(05-10-2015 04:53 AM)Roosh Wrote:  It's not low T, as I learned since I was having the same issue. It's a matter of tolerance and that comes from having ten lifetimes of experience chasing women in one. I suspect that men are made to deal with a certain limit of female energy and when he goes over, he just gets tired of them. Some men can handle a lot more than others but he will hit the limit eventually and his interactions with women will actually DECREASE his horniness.

I'm convinced now that man's goal is not to sleep with as many women as possible because when you do that, you start disliking them, especially via the more casual style of modern relationships. The dose is the poison so you simply may need a long break to detox and miss the feminine again (if your city even has feminine women).
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I agree. What I do on occasion is go Monk. Celibate. Clear the mind of girls 100% as a sex objects. And you know what I have told them this. Drives them crazy. Complete bat shit crazy. They'll want you in ways you've never experienced. Longest i've gone is 6 months. Was awesome. Felt great, looked great, slept great. I'd go on a date like i was going with a freind. However, still very respectful, treat them like a lady but before we went out i told them i'm celibate. I'd love to have sex with you but i've vowed to myself not to. I'd also say it's not you..Its me. Very perplexed look on their face. They could see i was being very honest not a scam or trick to get them in bed. Changes your perspective on life and you know what..when you've achieved X amount of days you will be better at everything to do with a girl. Everything.



This is interesting. This could be a separate thread if you want to go into more detail. What are the reasons you give for being celibate?

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(07-04-2015 06:11 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  My bad if this has been brought up before, but how do you older(35+) gents deal with disclosing your age to younger people? Last night I was out and next to the bar was a group of 4 chics, all looking college aged. One was cute, one ugly and the other two average but only one of them lived in town and the others were visiting. It was the birthday of the one in town. I asked how old she turned and she said 22. I wasn't trying to game them and was curious to see how they'd react to my age as young women. So I said, "damn, you're young". And she asked how old I was and I said 39. She said something like "you should've lied". I chatted for another moment then went back to my circle.

I'm torn on how to deal with the age issue going forward. I can either lie about it or I can just own it and use it as a screen for girls that actually enjoy older men. All along I typically just dodge disclosing my age by changing the subject, or lie if push came to shove. But sometimes I get tired of feeling like my age should be a liability. I'm in decent shape, I have no wrinkles, I'm not bald, most people think I'm 10 years younger than I am and are usually rather surprised to find out my actual age.

I also often find myself hanging out with younger people in general. Mainly because they are the ones more likely to be active and want to go out and do things. Most people my age are now homebodies if they aren't married/LTRed with kids. So if I want to find fun and active people to do shit with, they are typically going to be in their 20s. I don't even like telling these people my age either. Because then they'll start asking personal questions like why I'm not married or maybe feel awkward that they are hanging with someone older. Which are conversations I don't care to have. So I just try to avoid the subject of age entirely.

I'm 44 (but look younger) I ALWAYS steer away from a direct answer to the age question. No reason to let their preconceived notions or limiting ideas get in the way of our mutual pleasure. My last LTR was 15 years younger than me and it was never an issue

When the age question come up what's she's really asking is "Are you too old for me?"

One way of deflecting the issue if it comes up pre bang is to "pivot" the conversation to related subject without directly answering the question (The same principal applies to shit tests) "

You need to have this dialed in advance else it comes across as awkward. Politicians are experts at this (just watch any interview of Bill Clinton...he was a master of the pivot)

One example of this might be (and I've used variations of this one)

Her "How old are you?"

Me "Old enough not to be attracted to immature or superficial women"...then pivot wherever I want it to go and can get naturally. Or "A better question is are you mature enough for me?" Ideally she ends up qualifying herself to me

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When it comes to age, whether or not she will care often isn't about how you look, what kind of shape you are in, or the fact that many people might actually believe you're younger than you really are. The minute your true age comes out, the mental hamster calculations begin. If you are much older than 45, you are probably beyond the acceptable range of boyfriend material, absent significant wealth.

Fact is even though so much of the young western female population places very little value on their own fertility (until it is far too late of course), a small part of their biological imperative remains, and thinking of being married to a 75 year old when they are 55 just seems too odd.

Either that or - more likely - it's the effect you will have on their social circle. Bringing someone dad's age around to a party full of 20 somethings is about as awkward as it gets for them. But as with anything, there are always exceptions - women who just get along better with adults and/or are not tied to any large group of like minded twenty somethings.

As for people my own age, I agree - too many of them are either inactive or (especially the guys in my peer group) more satisfied sitting around bitching and moaning about the news all day, with no interest in doing anything to change their lives and constantly reminiscing about their past. It's ok in small does, but I'm just not ready to live like that yet.

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I got to say I started therapy a couple of months ago which involves rapid eye movement..I had a PTSD issue I ignored..

I knew I had it as I was diagnosed years ago but Veterans affairs and myself went to war so I got never treated properly or I thought I was ok but the anger built up hard when I split with my ex wife.Considering my jobs, I need to switch off emotion in order to operate.
This mate who is an ex cop said I was fucked.He got me so angry on purpose during a "set" that I was going to smash my scotch glass through his face..he just said "you see what I mean"as I had my glass raised, black rage closing in.I though fuck this is not me..So I went to see he's therapist..

Holy shit he was right..My life has changed,I see alot of beauty now but mixed with the red pill.The number of women I attract has shot up.I feel this therapy which has gone beyond PTSD digging out all the negative shit from my life is one of the best things I've ever done.We work on our bodies,talk about making money but we've got a lot of shit in our heads, in our minds, over 40 years worth.It's worth getting all the negative emotions and experiences out.The growth I've got in the last few months has been immense...My breathing, my gym work, my relationships have all improved.I'm very happy with myself
I got into game in order to grow for self empowerment...naaaa bullshit..I got into it for pussy but the by product has been growth and empowerment..

Clean your mind out.
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(07-14-2015 04:47 AM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  I got to say I started therapy a couple of months ago which involves rapid eye movement..I had a PTSD issue I ignored..

I knew I had it as I was diagnosed years ago but Veterans affairs and myself went to war so I got never treated properly or I thought I was ok but the anger built up hard when I split with my ex wife.Considering my jobs, I need to switch off emotion in order to operate.
This mate who is an ex cop said I was fucked.He got me so angry on purpose during a "set" that I was going to smash my scotch glass through his face..he just said "you see what I mean"as I had my glass raised, black rage closing in.I though fuck this is not me..So I went to see he's therapist..

Holy shit he was right..My life has changed,I see alot of beauty now but mixed with the red pill.The number of women I attract has shot up.I feel this therapy which has gone beyond PTSD digging out all the negative shit from my life is one of the best things I've ever done.We work on our bodies,talk about making money but we've got a lot of shit in our heads, in our minds, over 40 years worth.It's worth getting all the negative emotions and experiences out.The growth I've got in the last few months has been immense...My breathing, my gym work, my relationships have all improved.I'm very happy with myself
I got into game in order to grow for self empowerment...naaaa bullshit..I got into it for pussy but the by product has been growth and empowerment..

Clean your mind out.

The manager at my gym is a Marine. An artillery man in Iraq war. He described his PTSD, which he didn't realize he had until some testing since behaviorally he couldn't understand why he was acting the way he was uncontrollably. That was about 6 months ago. He was snappy with people, almost a bit whiney too, especially for a Marine which didn't gel with his presentation or accomplishments.

He openly told me about it and how he was getting treatment for it. You can really tell the guy is at peace with himself now, and he's made strides in all areas, from physique to women to just overall likability.
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(07-13-2015 02:16 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  
(07-13-2015 02:04 PM)Menace Wrote:  Damn el mech, you policing this thread like a Florida condo board screening tenants...
Think about it. Do you need a 37 year old mech giving advice here?

OK..

Just buy any boat then pull up to a tiki bar all ripped and tan then tell the hottest girl to get on. Have alcohol. Easy.

The pre 40 guys here on this thread are acting like they are over 40 which is 40 to?? So could be 50 or 60 year olds here too. Do you think they want to hear the whoas of 30 somethings?

I have to agree with El Mech here. To some degree women are idiots. Well, to a large degree.

So:

If your age begins with:

"3", it's not that bad unless she's focused on how cool being young makes her, or it's "39" and she comprehends that 39 is only one less than 40!! Imagine that!!

"4" OMG it's so naughty and dirty and only her besties should know , but she'll just slip in that you are so ____ and also own a ______ and did _____ to her for the first time... so she's still cool.

"5" --Ummmmm... is he a Kennedy? In the Rolling Stones? Oh all right , he must be a Billionaire, right? NO?!! EEEWWWWWW

Someone once wrote here that 50s are the "Wiley Coyote" moment for players in the wealthy countries, and I found it pretty true ESPECIALLY mid-50s.

All this is for the West of course.

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