Just got a text from a girl I had a first date with last night. Before the text, a little back ground is in order:

she's 19 and I brought her to my apartment. We were making out on and off. after a bit she popped up and said ' I have to go before I do something I regret' we continued to make out after that , alternating between her saying she wanted to get naked and have sex...to her, literally running away from me laughing but avoiding me and not getting close. Then coming back, kissing, grabbed my dick once or twice...then scuttling off again. She told me she lost her virginity in Jan this year and it was the last time she had sex. So, I just finally took her back to her car. I returned her text this morning about getting together again and she sends me:

"I'm free next wednesday. Although before then, we should probably discuss a few....very awkward things."

I'm thinking she's wanting to lay the "rules" down....so, probably play along to give her plausible deniability...

(12-05-2015 11:51 AM)robreke Wrote:  Just got a text from a girl I had a first date with last night. Before the text, a little back ground is in order:

she's 19 and I brought her to my apartment. We were making out on and off. after a bit she popped up and said ' I have to go before I do something I regret' we continued to make out after that , alternating between her saying she wanted to get naked and have sex...to her, literally running away from me laughing but avoiding me and not getting close. Then coming back, kissing, grabbed my dick once or twice...then scuttling off again. She told me she lost her virginity in Jan this year and it was the last time she had sex. So, I just finally took her back to her car. I returned her text this morning about getting together again and she sends me:

"I'm free next wednesday. Although before then, we should probably discuss a few....very awkward things."

I'm thinking she's wanting to lay the "rules" down....so, probably play along to give her plausible deniability...

Or she has an STD, or she's a dude, or she had an abortion from the last time she had sex and feels weird about it, or [insert stupid hamster BS here]. You could have (should have) fucked her that first date. She was asking for it she just need you to plow through her very weak LMR/ASD.

(12-05-2015 02:36 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 11:51 AM)robreke Wrote:  Just got a text from a girl I had a first date with last night. Before the text, a little back ground is in order:

she's 19 and I brought her to my apartment. We were making out on and off. after a bit she popped up and said ' I have to go before I do something I regret' we continued to make out after that , alternating between her saying she wanted to get naked and have sex...to her, literally running away from me laughing but avoiding me and not getting close. Then coming back, kissing, grabbed my dick once or twice...then scuttling off again. She told me she lost her virginity in Jan this year and it was the last time she had sex. So, I just finally took her back to her car. I returned her text this morning about getting together again and she sends me:

"I'm free next wednesday. Although before then, we should probably discuss a few....very awkward things."

I'm thinking she's wanting to lay the "rules" down....so, probably play along to give her plausible deniability...

Or she has an STD, or she's a dude, or she had an abortion from the last time she had sex and feels weird about it, or [insert stupid hamster BS here]. You could have (should have) fucked her that first date. She was asking for it she just need you to plow through her very weak LMR/ASD.

I've overcome quite a bit of LMR in my day and there was no doing so here.

Let's just say I tried everything that's worked for LMR that I've done before that usually works. Without going into details, did many things, all within bounds. There was no overcoming it.

She really was an inexperienced girl whose hamster was on overdrive. Your suggestions are wrong.

On the text, I just went with a low key 'sure whatever you want to chat about' text and think I'm keeping frame okay from her reply.

re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

(12-05-2015 02:36 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 11:51 AM)robreke Wrote:  Just got a text from a girl I had a first date with last night. Before the text, a little back ground is in order:

she's 19 and I brought her to my apartment. We were making out on and off. after a bit she popped up and said ' I have to go before I do something I regret' we continued to make out after that , alternating between her saying she wanted to get naked and have sex...to her, literally running away from me laughing but avoiding me and not getting close. Then coming back, kissing, grabbed my dick once or twice...then scuttling off again. She told me she lost her virginity in Jan this year and it was the last time she had sex. So, I just finally took her back to her car. I returned her text this morning about getting together again and she sends me:

"I'm free next wednesday. Although before then, we should probably discuss a few....very awkward things."

I'm thinking she's wanting to lay the "rules" down....so, probably play along to give her plausible deniability...

Or she has an STD, or she's a dude, or she had an abortion from the last time she had sex and feels weird about it, or [insert stupid hamster BS here]. You could have (should have) fucked her that first date. She was asking for it she just need you to plow through her very weak LMR/ASD.

My money is on the STD. She set it up with the "lost her virginity in Jan." and is going to follow up that she got the herp/genital warts whatever the VERY FIRST TIME she ever had sex.

(12-05-2015 08:02 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 02:36 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 11:51 AM)robreke Wrote:  Just got a text from a girl I had a first date with last night. Before the text, a little back ground is in order:

she's 19 and I brought her to my apartment. We were making out on and off. after a bit she popped up and said ' I have to go before I do something I regret' we continued to make out after that , alternating between her saying she wanted to get naked and have sex...to her, literally running away from me laughing but avoiding me and not getting close. Then coming back, kissing, grabbed my dick once or twice...then scuttling off again. She told me she lost her virginity in Jan this year and it was the last time she had sex. So, I just finally took her back to her car. I returned her text this morning about getting together again and she sends me:

"I'm free next wednesday. Although before then, we should probably discuss a few....very awkward things."

I'm thinking she's wanting to lay the "rules" down....so, probably play along to give her plausible deniability...

Or she has an STD, or she's a dude, or she had an abortion from the last time she had sex and feels weird about it, or [insert stupid hamster BS here]. You could have (should have) fucked her that first date. She was asking for it she just need you to plow through her very weak LMR/ASD.

My money is on the STD. She set it up with the "lost her virginity in Jan." and is going to follow up that she got the herp/genital warts whatever the VERY FIRST TIME she ever had sex.

On second thought, I'll keep it in mind and vet her. It's a possibility.

(12-05-2015 07:38 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

Sounds like an attention whore. Any woman who asks you to follow them on snap chat or instagram just wants another man to oogle over her selfies and tell her how beautiful she looks.

Question: Why would you message her on tinder when you already have her phone number to call and text?

(12-06-2015 02:15 PM)Remington Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 07:38 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

Sounds like an attention whore. Any woman who asks you to follow them on snap chat or instagram just wants another man to oogle over her selfies and tell her how beautiful she looks.

Question: Why would you message her on tinder when you already have her phone number to call and text?

I don't. She wouldn't give me her number, and called me while blocking her number.

She messaged me back today. Now back to the usual bullshit, how was your weekend, blah blah. Yeah she seems like an attention whore. But pretty much all 9's and 10's are. Whaddaya gonna do.

(12-06-2015 03:58 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:15 PM)Remington Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 07:38 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

Sounds like an attention whore. Any woman who asks you to follow them on snap chat or instagram just wants another man to oogle over her selfies and tell her how beautiful she looks.

Question: Why would you message her on tinder when you already have her phone number to call and text?

I don't. She wouldn't give me her number, and called me while blocking her number.

She messaged me back today. Now back to the usual bullshit, how was your weekend, blah blah. Yeah she seems like an attention whore. But pretty much all 9's and 10's are. Whaddaya gonna do.

The whole number blocking thing seems very off to me. My guess is she was bored and wanted something to do to pass the time. To know for sure, try to schedule a date and see how she responds. You don't want a pen pal.

"Haha this is one of the more interesting messages I've gotten" in response to the "married and divorced you in my mind" copy pasta on OKC.

What do I send next brahs?

(12-06-2015 07:06 PM)eatthishomie Wrote:  "Haha this is one of the more interesting messages I've gotten" in response to the "married and divorced you in my mind" copy pasta on OKC.

What do I send next brahs?

"just received a subpoena from my okc ex wife. its been a full 10 minutes. can you testify"

(12-06-2015 06:10 PM)Remington Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 03:58 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:15 PM)Remington Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 07:38 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

Sounds like an attention whore. Any woman who asks you to follow them on snap chat or instagram just wants another man to oogle over her selfies and tell her how beautiful she looks.

Question: Why would you message her on tinder when you already have her phone number to call and text?

I don't. She wouldn't give me her number, and called me while blocking her number.

She messaged me back today. Now back to the usual bullshit, how was your weekend, blah blah. Yeah she seems like an attention whore. But pretty much all 9's and 10's are. Whaddaya gonna do.

The whole number blocking thing seems very off to me. My guess is she was bored and wanted something to do to pass the time. To know for sure, try to schedule a date and see how she responds. You don't want a pen pal.

Yeah. She lives far but is in my city often. Trying to set it up. But like I said she's a legit 10, repped by a prestigious modelling agency and all that. So I'm not entirely put off by her behaviour thus far

(12-06-2015 09:37 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 06:10 PM)Remington Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 03:58 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 02:15 PM)Remington Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 07:38 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

Sounds like an attention whore. Any woman who asks you to follow them on snap chat or instagram just wants another man to oogle over her selfies and tell her how beautiful she looks.

Question: Why would you message her on tinder when you already have her phone number to call and text?

I don't. She wouldn't give me her number, and called me while blocking her number.

She messaged me back today. Now back to the usual bullshit, how was your weekend, blah blah. Yeah she seems like an attention whore. But pretty much all 9's and 10's are. Whaddaya gonna do.

The whole number blocking thing seems very off to me. My guess is she was bored and wanted something to do to pass the time. To know for sure, try to schedule a date and see how she responds. You don't want a pen pal.

Yeah. She lives far but is in my city often. Trying to set it up. But like I said she's a legit 10, repped by a prestigious modelling agency and all that. So I'm not entirely put off by her behaviour thus far

No woman is a 10. Perfection does not exist. Do not get onetitis and obsess over this woman. She is an attention whore whose business depends on your likes through social media. I used to date a Persian "model." Her whole life revolves around likes and followers and crap that does not amount to anything in the real world.

Once shit starts hitting the fan (which it will), people will be struggling to try and gather their bearings. Some men, like myself, will be sitting waiting and embracing the apocalypse and watching the world burn thanks to global politics and the pussy that has become the USA.

I don't think I've got one-itis here. I recognize she's most likely a giant attention whore. But I assure you a 10 is a 10 is a 10.

re: the coming downfall of civilization... I'm with you on that, but this thread is not the place to have that discussion.

(12-06-2015 11:34 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  I don't think I've got one-itis here. I recognize she's most likely a giant attention whore. But I assure you a 10 is a 10 is a 10.

re: the coming downfall of civilization... I'm with you on that, but this thread is not the place to have that discussion.

She sounds like an escort or camwhore.

And why the fuck would you follow her snapchat, or let alone even have a snapchat?

(12-06-2015 11:39 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 11:34 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  I don't think I've got one-itis here. I recognize she's most likely a giant attention whore. But I assure you a 10 is a 10 is a 10.

re: the coming downfall of civilization... I'm with you on that, but this thread is not the place to have that discussion.

She sounds like an escort or camwhore.

What makes you say that?

(12-06-2015 10:04 PM)Remington Wrote:  No woman is a 10. Perfection does not exist.

Well, how could you know? It's been around 100 billion people that been on this planet so far. Thus, there were 50 billion females born. That's a pretty big number, isn't it?Now, there's future ahead of us as well. You'd have to have measured every single female that walked the earth and every single feamle that will walk the earth to make this claim empirically true. We've evoloved from simple prokaryotic cells. Single cells without a nucleus that, in the long timeframe of evolution, made us. Us, consisting of trillions of cells working in unison making us who we are, thinking, conscious, planning and reasoning beings - how improbable it seems, yet did it happen! So, I don't think such a fit, as a perfect woman, is impossible. Far from it. Thus, I conclude, your claim is a conjecture, no less, no more. Above all, I wouldn't be so hubristic about knowing it all about non-existence of a perfect female...

(12-05-2015 07:38 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

That awww thanks is a friendzone frank move.

Anytime a bitch asks you to follow her on any social media, she's just an attention whore looking for followers. Don't fall into her trap.

Tell her you got tired of the selfies and same old pictures people post and that you don't have much social media. Or you can't have social media because of work.

If she won't give up her number it really isn't worth it. She saw you pic and didn't reply.

She then messages you again, she's the cat, you're the ball of yarn she's striging out.

Don't fall for this shit man. Sounds almost like a catfish.

Has she sent you any confirmed pics ? Ex. Sending a selfie with a tongue out and a peace sign ?

If not, don't waste your time on these bitches.

I just had a bitch ask to borrow $500 from me and I hadn't even met the bitch yet I promptly called her out and deleted her ass.

Got a text from a first date bang today, while scheduling our next meet up. On our second date, she was on her period so got a great hand and BJ. We were supposed to get together tonight, which would be the third meet up, but she said she's got two finals tomorrow and needs to focus. I know it is finals week as I'm talking to a few other co ed girls. I ask her when to reschedule and she sends this:

Her: Friday night. But just for a couple of hours to talk and watch a movie

Now normally, I'd allow a girl plausible deniability and just go with "sure that's fine" but the thing is I pay for this girl's uber to and from my place and, beta as it is, I picked up a small gift for her and she knows about it. So, I don't want to pay for her uber and give up the gift and then her ghost without at least a last bang. In the old days I wouldn't be so concerned with a girl I'd already banged, but with the way girls can ghost these days after a bang or two, a horny guy never can be too cautious.

She's trying to set the frame of the date.

I'm thinking either let her have her plausible deniability, roll the dice and try to close when she's here or send something like "nah that doesn't work for me...." or " and satisfy each other of course...."

(12-07-2015 05:33 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 07:38 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  re: a 10 I'm talking to on Tinder...

I just complimented her name, she said aww thanks. Previously she asked me to add her on Snapchat, which I did, then sent a selfie. She hasn't responded to the snap.

Should I wait for her to respond to the Snap, or should I reply to her Tinder msg? We've been talking for a few days and have talked on the phone for about an hour.

That awww thanks is a friendzone frank move.

Anytime a bitch asks you to follow her on any social media, she's just an attention whore looking for followers. Don't fall into her trap.

Tell her you got tired of the selfies and same old pictures people post and that you don't have much social media. Or you can't have social media because of work.

If she won't give up her number it really isn't worth it. She saw you pic and didn't reply.

She then messages you again, she's the cat, you're the ball of yarn she's striging out.

Don't fall for this shit man. Sounds almost like a catfish.

Has she sent you any confirmed pics ? Ex. Sending a selfie with a tongue out and a peace sign ?

If not, don't waste your time on these bitches.

I just had a bitch ask to borrow $500 from me and I hadn't even met the bitch yet I promptly called her out and deleted her ass.

I think you're mostly right. She's definitely an attention whore, but virtually any young woman who's a 9-10 is gonna be. Show me one who's not, I'll show you a square circle. I'm not investing much time in this one, she messages back, I message back. But not exactly tripping over myself or shelling out money to get a shot. Whatever comes.

How does one salvage being called out for calling someone late at night?

I called one of my Tinder matches after not getting a reply when I texted her in the afternoon confirming our date. I'd gotten her number the night before.

She didn't sound terribly impressed about me "calling at 10".

All's lost?

Background

HER
Rating: 6.5
Hair: Blonde
Age: 28
Profession: Nurse
Site: POF

ME
Game Level: Novice (1/10)

Noticed she had what looked like a large pink dildo in the background of one of her pics.

Chat so far ...

Me: Nice selection of cosmetics but the long pink "thing" looks suspicious
Her: That's because you have a dirty mind lol ... it's a hair roller
Me: True but that's partly your fault!

Any advice on how to proceed?

Lets say girl goes cold after asking when free for date this week --- how long do you guys usually wait to re-engage? I have a good text ready for it that I think will hook her, just want timing to be right.

@BackFromTheBrink, you made a statement. It would be ideal to wait for her response before sending anything else. I've begun to move the conversation forward with statements followed by questions and light flirtation. The only thing you really have to worry about with texting chicks in general...is being at the bottom of the cue and low interest level.

If you have good text game and the girl finds you attractive through your pics and profile...you have a chance of getting the number...and from there it could still be a lot of work getting that girl out...unless she has a high interest level.

@keegs I wait a few days, girls go cold because they have abundance and lack of interest. I've dealt with this countless times...even today.

(12-09-2015 06:27 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  How does one salvage being called out for calling someone late at night?

I called one of my Tinder matches after not getting a reply when I texted her in the afternoon confirming our date. I'd gotten her number the night before.

She didn't sound terribly impressed about me "calling at 10".

All's lost?

Did she confirm?

10PM is late for some girls, but I think in general most chicks view calling them as an annoyance or at least an inconvenience no matter what time of day it is.

You were texting and calling, some chicks may associate this with neediness. I'd choose one or the other and stick with that for the day.

Judging by the fact she was going to leave you hanging on that text, it might have never been there to begin with.

Response times say a lot. Tinder hoes are the easiest to read in this regard.