Fury's defense is very predictable. Easy to spot on film too when I watched film on him. If he is doing the exact same thing every time Wilder throws his 1-2, then make a fucking adjustment for fucks sake!

Wilder is going to lose if he does not score more knock downs or a KO.

Would it kill Wilder to throw a God damned uppercut? It's like all he knows is jab cross. WTF?

Geeeez! Never seen someone get laid on his ass twice like that and still probably win on points alone. Let's see what the score card is.

A draw.....

Okay. Well that is an automatic rematch.

Wilder needs to work on his combinations and develop an uppercut.

This is a good thing for Fury though, he is back for sure. More trash talking for 6 months at least.

Draw seems like a reasonable result.

TDK

+1 to Fury.

Big Respeckt mon!

That is a real ass man that fears God and loves Jesus Christ.

Holy shit, he just called AJ a big ass chicken!!! Looooooooool!

I think Fury won that one..... But I was shocked when he got up in the last round.

Good to see all the respect in the ring after it was all said and done

Fury got robbed. Sloppy fight.

Have to respect Fury's defense, but he was a bit predictable... he's lucky Wilder just cannot adjust. Every single 1-2 Wilder threw, Fury would duck towards his right. And that's exactly where Wilder found him in the 12th round, with Fury ducking toward his right after the jab, expecting Wilder's right! That 12th round though... even after a boring fight, that's why we watch boxing.

Anthony Joshua is an interesting match up for both. I think AJ can get caught more easily than Fury. Klitschko found him a whoooole lot with his 1-2. That's Wilder's seemingly only weapon, but what a weapon. I like Wilder's chances against AJ.

But I also think AJ might have a decent chance with Fury because he can adjust well as he showed with Klitschko. He fights well on the inside and can mix it up, unlike Wilder. Could be one of those cool boxing triangles, like Morales-Pacquiao-Barrera or, dare I say, Ali-Frazier-Foreman if they all get to face each other down the line.

Tyson Fury is a tank:

Slow-motion replay:

I can see how Deontay Wilder got his 39/40 KOs.

Official Scorecard:

Quote:With scores of 115-111 for @BronzeBomber, 114-110 for @Tyson_Fury and 113-113 - #WilderFury is a draw

Cheekiness from Fury after being knocked down in the 9th:

I'll be waiting patiently for the rematch.


Update: I made a gif of Deontay Wilder's reaction after Tyson Fury got back up in the 12th & the Tyson Fury tongue wagging after he got back up in the 9th.

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"I get knocked down, but I get up again." #204

(12-02-2018 01:21 AM)Built to Fade Wrote:  Tyson Fury is a tank:

Slow-motion replay:

I can see how Deontay Wilder got his 39/40 KOs.

Official Scorecard:

Quote:With scores of 115-111 for @BronzeBomber, 114-110 for @Tyson_Fury and 113-113 - #WilderFury is a draw

Cheekiness from Fury after being knocked down in the 9th:

I'll be waiting patiently for the rematch.


Update: I made a gif of Deontay Wilder's reaction after Tyson Fury got back up in the 12th.

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"I get knocked down, but I get up again." #204

That Wilder GIF is the look of a man who's about to get laid but finally notices the large Adam's Apple.

^ Haha!

Fury wins (on points most likely) at Old Trafford (Man Utd stadium) Spring next year then fights Joshua in a Wembley colossus. I hope he wins. Technically he's a level above all the rest in his era, but he lacks that one-punch KO power unfortunately. Such a cool dude though, and an inspirational comeback.

Have a look at this scorecard:

My reaction to this scorecard:


Self-explanatory rant by Teddy Atlas:

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"That's BS!" #205

Tyson Fury earned a lot of fans after this fight. He can box--he's tough--and he's a great talker. Man, that 12 round knockdown was awesome. He got up like the Undertaker. Then they both talked shit about Anthony Joshua post fight.

Damn it!
I was extremely close at putting in a bet with a Fury win as a hedge, and a draw as the main bet at 27-1 odds. My reasoning was that Fury would be cheated somewhat and they would make it a draw, sort of like Lewis-Holyfield 1. I have to start trusting myself. (Same with Trump and Brexit, should have put some money on it.) I think it was a pretty fair decision all in all though.

I hate to brag, but I was right on pretty much everything going into this fight. I knew Fury`s flab would be a problem in latter rounds. Had he been fit enough, he would have won it. Wilder has excellent stamina.

(12-02-2018 12:35 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Would it kill Wilder to throw a God damned uppercut? It's like all he knows is jab cross. WTF?

All he knows IS jab-cross...

(12-02-2018 12:48 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  Damn it!
I was extremely close at putting in a bet with a Fury win as a hedge, and a draw as the main bet at 27-1 odds. My reasoning was that Fury would be cheated somewhat and they would make it a draw, sort of like Lewis-Holyfield 1. I have to start trusting myself. (Same with Trump and Brexit, should have put some money on it.) I think it was a pretty fair decision all in all though.

I hate to brag, but I was right on pretty much everything going into this fight. I knew Fury`s flab would be a problem in latter rounds. Had he been fit enough, he would have won it. Wilder has excellent stamina.

Johnny, sorry but you are way off base brother. Had Fury weighed less it is obvious he would have been knocked the fuck out. He was in very great shape actually and looked super sharp.

Weight is power. Size matters.

Forget about the 2 knockdowns. Think about all the other punches he was able to shrug off!!!!

If he fights Joshua next he might trim down more, but he was smart by being the weight he was last night.

(12-02-2018 01:37 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 12:48 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  Damn it!
I was extremely close at putting in a bet with a Fury win as a hedge, and a draw as the main bet at 27-1 odds. My reasoning was that Fury would be cheated somewhat and they would make it a draw, sort of like Lewis-Holyfield 1. I have to start trusting myself. (Same with Trump and Brexit, should have put some money on it.) I think it was a pretty fair decision all in all though.

I hate to brag, but I was right on pretty much everything going into this fight. I knew Fury`s flab would be a problem in latter rounds. Had he been fit enough, he would have won it. Wilder has excellent stamina.

Johnny, sorry but you are way off base brother. Had Fury weighed less it is obvious he would have been knocked the fuck out. He was in very great shape actually and looked super sharp.

Weight is power. Size matters.

Forget about the 2 knockdowns. Think about all the other punches he was able to shrug off!!!!

If he fights Joshua next he might trim down more, but he was smart by being the weight he was last night.

I hear your (fat acceptance) argument, but I think he would do better with less flab in the latter rounds. I think he got hit more towards the end due to his lack of stamina. I hope he improves his fitness before a rematch takes place.

How do you get knocked down twice and win a fight

(12-02-2018 01:04 PM)The Father Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 12:35 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Would it kill Wilder to throw a God damned uppercut? It's like all he knows is jab cross. WTF?

All he knows IS jab-cross...

He needs to fix this shit big time. If anything this fight exposed Wilder for what he truly is. A dude that is coasting, blasting and cruising if you will, on his physical gifts!

Mark my words, he will get "old overnight" when his natural testosterone tanks and he can no longer lay dudes out with 2 punches. If he truly wants to be the best among all the heavyweights of the past like he claims, he better start making adjustments to his fight game or he will become a bum overnight.

Lebron James is a man child and a physical freak of nature, but one thing he has done that separates him from many others like him, is that he was willing to work on perfecting his craft around the time he was 30 or so. Wilder is 33. When he hits 35 he is going to wake up and wonder what the fuck just happened to his drive and energy.

Point out a man child that played any sport at a high level past Wilder's age and did not perfect his craft. I cannot think of a single one. I am curious if anyone else can think of one. Leonard Fournette is 23, so he has time. Adrian Peterson is 33 and is exceptional at so many things, so he does not count either. I'm being serious here, is there any still coasting over 33 on just raw physical talent? Wilder is going to lose the rematch possibly at this rate.

(12-02-2018 01:45 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  How do you get knocked down twice and win a fight

Points.

But I know what you mean though. Wilder was utterly outboxed regardless of his scored knockdowns.

dupe

(12-02-2018 01:43 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 01:37 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 12:48 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  Damn it!
I was extremely close at putting in a bet with a Fury win as a hedge, and a draw as the main bet at 27-1 odds. My reasoning was that Fury would be cheated somewhat and they would make it a draw, sort of like Lewis-Holyfield 1. I have to start trusting myself. (Same with Trump and Brexit, should have put some money on it.) I think it was a pretty fair decision all in all though.

I hate to brag, but I was right on pretty much everything going into this fight. I knew Fury`s flab would be a problem in latter rounds. Had he been fit enough, he would have won it. Wilder has excellent stamina.

Johnny, sorry but you are way off base brother. Had Fury weighed less it is obvious he would have been knocked the fuck out. He was in very great shape actually and looked super sharp.

Weight is power. Size matters.

Forget about the 2 knockdowns. Think about all the other punches he was able to shrug off!!!!

If he fights Joshua next he might trim down more, but he was smart by being the weight he was last night.

I hear your (fat acceptance) argument, but I think he would do better with less flab in the latter rounds. I think he got hit more towards the end due to his lack of stamina. I hope he improves his fitness before a rematch takes place.

You should watch American Football sometimes and take a look at offense and defensive linemen. There are dudes on teams with 4 times the stamina of both fighters and twice the flab. Don't let the fat fool you. Fat does not suck up excessive amounts of oxygen like muscles do. Also sometimes skin is too loose, especially for full contact athletes that have to make weight and still do fast cuts. Nowadays fewer guys do this, but some dudes are still oldskool.

(12-02-2018 02:11 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 01:43 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 01:37 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 12:48 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  Damn it!
I was extremely close at putting in a bet with a Fury win as a hedge, and a draw as the main bet at 27-1 odds. My reasoning was that Fury would be cheated somewhat and they would make it a draw, sort of like Lewis-Holyfield 1. I have to start trusting myself. (Same with Trump and Brexit, should have put some money on it.) I think it was a pretty fair decision all in all though.

I hate to brag, but I was right on pretty much everything going into this fight. I knew Fury`s flab would be a problem in latter rounds. Had he been fit enough, he would have won it. Wilder has excellent stamina.

Johnny, sorry but you are way off base brother. Had Fury weighed less it is obvious he would have been knocked the fuck out. He was in very great shape actually and looked super sharp.

Weight is power. Size matters.

Forget about the 2 knockdowns. Think about all the other punches he was able to shrug off!!!!

If he fights Joshua next he might trim down more, but he was smart by being the weight he was last night.

I hear your (fat acceptance) argument, but I think he would do better with less flab in the latter rounds. I think he got hit more towards the end due to his lack of stamina. I hope he improves his fitness before a rematch takes place.

You should watch American Football sometimes and take a look at offense and defensive linemen. There are dudes on teams with 4 times the stamina of both fighters and twice the flab. Don't let the fat fool you. Fat does not suck up excessive amounts of oxygen like muscles do. Also sometimes skin is too loose, especially for full contact athletes that have to make weight and still do fast cuts. Nowadays fewer guys do this, but some dudes are still oldskool.

It depends on what you`re training for. They might have good endurance relative to other athletes in the same sport, but let them run a 10k, and that mass would slow them down to a great extent. I think Wilder would run circles around those guys you mentioned. (Not Fury though)

I see your point, but in the absolute sense, not relative to the specific sport, excess mass will always be a negative when it comes to endurance. The flabby elite endurance athlete does not exist.


   
Case in point, marathon WR holder Eliud Kipchoge of Kenya.

Either way, both guys deserve mad respect for fighting each other. It was a tough match up for both of them, they're both at the top of their games, and they didn't duck each other. They fought, they risked their records, they got paid. Hope Wilder is gettin some pussy, hope Fury will allow his wife the privilege of massaging his feet while dinner is in the oven...