Anybody going to watch Canelo vs. GGG 2?

I saw the pay-per view cost and its fucking insane. $85 dollars? Seriously?

It keeps going up every year.

(08-27-2018 10:05 PM)Parras Wrote:  Anybody going to watch Canelo vs. GGG 2?

I saw the pay-per view cost and its fucking insane. $85 dollars? Seriously?

It keeps going up every year.

I mean it's not going to be hard to find free online bro...i need to see ggg put canelo on his ass so bad man

(08-27-2018 10:15 PM)Maistre Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 10:05 PM)Parras Wrote:  Anybody going to watch Canelo vs. GGG 2?

I saw the pay-per view cost and its fucking insane. $85 dollars? Seriously?

It keeps going up every year.

I mean it's not going to be hard to find free online bro...i need to see ggg put canelo on his ass so bad man

I keep having terrible luck with bad connections and viruses up the ass with those bootleg feeds. Just put some more on GGG at -150 and under 11 1/2(!) at +200 this weekend, so figure I'm just gonna shell out for the entrance fee to whatever bar is showing it nearby.

Quite the fight!

Canelo ends up coming up with the win against GGG.

What do you all think?

(09-16-2018 12:15 AM)Parras Wrote:  Quite the fight!

Canelo ends up coming up with the win against GGG.

What do you all think?

I wanted GGG to win, but I'm good with it. It was a very close fight. I think GGG got robbed the first time, however I think the reason for Canelo not looking as good the first time wasn't because of Canelo's ability, but rather, he gave GGG too much respect and had a fight plan that was conducive to him looking not as good in the fight.

GGG got clearly robbed in this one, but that had always been a potential risk if he couldn't knock Canelo out. There is no way Canelo won that match though. One judge gave Canelo the 12th round as stated in the post-match interview with Kellerman - that's the 12th round where Canelo got rocked with a smacking right uppercut from GGG as well as taking all kinds of punishment. It was his worst round, the whole pub I was watching was cheering loudly thinking GGG would even knock him out then. Yet that judge watching the same fight thought Canelo won that one??? No wonder GGG and his crew went straight to the change room. Everyone around me even the Mexicans thought Canelo lost, and we were all shocked.

The boxing itself was pretty damn good. I thought both boxers had great techniques and power, good combos, excellent defense and great chins, which made it a very tight fight. GGG had a far better jab, which troubled Canelo for many rounds but kudos to Canelo for keeping up with his combos and making GGG work hard.

The stupid corrupted judging really ruined it for me.

I bet on GGG and had it 7-5 to Canelo. Not sure what everyone else was seeing :o

I don't mind the decision (it also could have been a draw, or a victory for GGG). However, I can understand GGG frustration, there's no way he lost the 12th round, and he felt he was robbed in the 1st fight.

I'm not sure what GGG strategy will be if there is a 3rd fight. Trying to KO Canelo is difficult, and winning a decision is almost impossible (Golden Boy Promotions will continue to do everything to protect their Cash Cow).

(09-16-2018 07:43 AM)Soyouz Wrote:  I don't mind the decision (it also could have been a draw, or a victory for GGG). However, I can understand GGG frustration, there's no way he lost the 12th round, and he felt he was robbed in the 1st fight.

I'm not sure what GGG strategy will be if there is a 3rd fight. Trying to KO Canelo is difficult, and winning a decision is almost impossible (Golden Boy Promotions will continue to do everything to protect their Cash Cow).

Golden Boy always has at least 1 judge on the payroll, especially if it is a Canelo fight. This time it tilted the bout in Canelo's favor.

Look at the first fight vs GGG, one judge scored it 118-110 for Canelo, which was drastically different than the other two judges scores.

Even in Canelo's loss to Mayweather, which should have been unanimous since Mayweather dominated that fight, one judge scores the fight as a draw when it was anything but that.

I thought Canelo won.

GGG looked gassed, trying to grasp for air every-time he went to his corner.

GGG also looked more beat up than Canelo did. G looked bruised up.

GGG relied mostly on his jab, even Abel Sanchez told him to change it up and not rely on his jab and throw more combo punches.

Canelo was criticized in the last fight for "running" like Mayweather. Well in this fight Canelo was the aggressor which is unusual for him and had GGG on the defensive which I feel was the deciding factor in such a tight fight. I absolutely loved the way Canelo kept going forward as he was taking hard shots to the face not backing down. Any other boxer would have been knocked out there. Says a alot about these guys' chin.

Canelo landed more punches to the face, body, liver, etc... overall. While GGG mostly landed jabs to the face, and Canelo still looked relatively clean from the face except the cut on his eyebrow.

And absolutely Canelo won the 12th round. When I saw the Lederman guy give the 12th to GGG, I thought he was joking. I came away thinking Canelo won that last round.

Overall it was a great fight. Canelo was the deserved winner.

People say that GGG was robbed, but almost always in a tight fight like this the judges will always give the fight to the A side which in this case is Canelo. If anyone remembers Marquez vs. Pacquiao, when it got to the scorecards they always gave it to Pacquiao. It took Marquez until the 4th fight to finally knock Pacquaio out.

Same with Mayweather
Same with Pacquaio
Same with any A-side fighter.

I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is in boxing.

(09-16-2018 11:33 AM)Parras Wrote:  I thought Canelo won.

GGG looked gassed, trying to grasp for air every-time he went to his corner.

GGG also looked more beat up than Canelo did. G looked bruised up.

GGG relied mostly on his jab, even Abel Sanchez told him to change it up and not rely on his jab and throw more combo punches.

Canelo was criticized in the last fight for "running" like Mayweather. Well in this fight Canelo was the aggressor which is unusual for him and had GGG on the defensive which I feel was the deciding factor in such a tight fight. I absolutely loved the way Canelo kept going forward as he was taking hard shots to the face not backing down. Any other boxer would have been knocked out there. Says a alot about these guys' chin.

Canelo landed more punches to the face, body, liver, etc... overall. While GGG mostly landed jabs to the face, and Canelo still looked relatively clean from the face except the cut on his eyebrow.

And absolutely Canelo won the 12th round. When I saw the Lederman guy give the 12th to GGG, I thought he was joking. I came away thinking Canelo won that last round.

Overall it was a great fight. Canelo was the deserved winner.

This is spot on. That's exactly why Canelo won. Has nothing to do with A sides.

Lederman is a a horrible scorer and totally infatuated with GGG. Ignore him.

Personally I scored a tie, but I don't disagree with giving Canelo the edge for the aggressive approach and harder hits amounting to more damage. Rabbit punching jabs with no follow ups are not worth as many points as people make it out to be. This isn't a Tae Kwon Do match. Those same jabs would not have scored well in MMA either.

Judging isn't an exact science but when you fight you are rolling dice with certain strategies when you have no idea what certain judges are looking for when they score the bout.

Draw or a narrow victory for Canelo. GGG isn't what people were making him out to be, record is full of nobodies and the decent fighters like Jacobs pushed him very hard. As I've said all along Ward would have beat him convincingly.

Lost both sides of my bets so I'm pretty sore about that. This fight was much more of a draw than the first, so I guess that translates to a Canelo win in Vegas. I'm seriously wondering if GGG will even come out for a third match with Clenelo - age is setting in and Alvaroid's admittedly great chin is going to keep GGG from almost any viable way of victory. When the odds are that stacked against him, I don't know if he'll play along... even for a big payday.

Huh I'm going to have to rewatch the 12th round, because as a casual fan I really thought GGG had that round

Hoping Mayweather is just blowing smoke with his proposed fight against Manny in December

Who wants to shell out another $100 for a repeat of Floyd administering a boxing lesson?

That said, as a fan I can't imagine missing it

I thought GGG won this one easily, just like the first fight. He won't win against Canelo in Vegas. It's also the same reason Joshua will probably not fight in the US, a number of body shots and head shots that Canelo 'landed' were hitting GGG's elbows or gloves. rewatch the fight and you'll see how everytime Canelo goes for the body shot, GGG tucks his elbows into his body. Most ex pro champs I've seen called it for GGG. Over the 2 fights, only 1 scorecard out of 6 from the judges gave the fight to him. Kellerman was riding Canelo's dick all the way through the fight.

It was a great fight though and both of these guys have iron faces. Was great to watch and next time you wanna watch boxing guys just lookup buffstreamz

(09-17-2018 04:32 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Who wants to shell out another $100 for a repeat of Floyd administering a boxing lesson?

That said, as a fan I can't imagine missing it

That's exactly how i feel...it's like when a chubby girl with no underwear bends over...i know I shouldn't look...I know I'll feel dirty in the morning...but i know I'm gonna look!

I thought ggg won. Seemed like he was ahead on points. Bullshit

(09-17-2018 05:05 AM)Kieran Wrote:  Draw or a narrow victory for Canelo. GGG isn't what people were making him out to be, record is full of nobodies and the decent fighters like Jacobs pushed him very hard. As I've said all along Ward would have beat him convincingly.

Ward fought in a higher weight class and finished his career 2 weight classes above. You're not comparing like for like.

The timing of this fight is what edged it Canelo's way. If the fight had been made back when Canelo willingly gave up the belt rather than face GGG who was his mandatory challenger at the time I think we would have been looking at a different outcome. Sad to say but no boxer can beat father time and GGG is now on the slide.

Oscar might be a cross dressing coke fiend but he's not silly when it comes to boxing.

I read Oscar De La Hoya is thinking of running for president





https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oscar-de-la...president/

Joshua this weekend against Povetkin, get his mandatory out of the way.

Lomachenko's next fight against Pedraza has been set for Dec 9th. Brilliant, love the way Lomachenko boxes, both the WBA and WBO Lightweight straps are up for grabs.

I'm a big boxing and sports enthusiast in general but I think sometimes we forget that at the highest level these things are meant to be entertainment and with the amount of money at stake is anyone surprised that Canelo won I mean he brings to much money you even had boxing professionals saying if it goes to decision GGG would lose again because Canelo brings to much money. So now I just watch these guys to learn or just have an entertaining night at the bar talking to other hobbyist about the sport

(09-17-2018 05:50 PM)bojangles Wrote:  I thought GGG won this one easily, just like the first fight. He won't win against Canelo in Vegas. It's also the same reason Joshua will probably not fight in the US, a number of body shots and head shots that Canelo 'landed' were hitting GGG's elbows or gloves. rewatch the fight and you'll see how everytime Canelo goes for the body shot, GGG tucks his elbows into his body. Most ex pro champs I've seen called it for GGG. Over the 2 fights, only 1 scorecard out of 6 from the judges gave the fight to him. Kellerman was riding Canelo's dick all the way through the fight.

It was a great fight though and both of these guys have iron faces. Was great to watch and next time you wanna watch boxing guys just lookup buffstreamz

(09-18-2018 01:50 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  I thought ggg won. Seemed like he was ahead on points. Bullshit

Guys, pro boxing is scored different than Olympic or amateur boxing. If this was in the olympics or similar, GGG would have won unanimous decision.

You could maybe make the argument that GGG spent way too much time in amateur boxing, fought opponents that are not anywhere near skilled enough to beat him, and finally got exposed by a fighter with a strong chin (along with good speed and power)?

Doesn't he have something like 350 amateur fights?

Just a thought.

I'm more familiar with how amateur boxing is scored as I've boxed in amateur but explain to me how pro boxing judges can score that 12th round to Canelo? GGG very clearly won that round. That was probably his best and most dominant!

Don't get me wrong, I think Canelo boxed terrifically and had an unbelievable chin to take such GGG power punches and the aggression to keep going forward too, but I don't think he did anywhere near enough to take the belts from the current champ as a challenger. Going forward alone is not enough to score major points, or else Ali would've never won so many fights with him running backwards most of the time (while landing shots on his opponents mind you).

I don't watch amateur boxing though haha, I do watch a lot of pro boxing and did train for a couple of years(I'm no pro though). I agree with StrikeBack and still stand by what I said about GGG actually glancing a lot of shots with his gloves plus using his elbows to block body shots.