Post: #9676

Thanks for the replies guys.

Ringo, I guess they feel I like relationships. I really do, I enjoy being outside with girls and going to museums with them. This doesn't mean I WANT a relationship. I like these new feelings of abundance that I'm experimenting, I like this sexual variety, and I know I need more experiences with girls if I want a somewhat traditional family along the way (and judging from the old veterans, this is something you will want some day). Thanks again for the input, I will change some things in the future, if only for them. I'm sure you are right, this is my fault for giving too much of a LTR vibe early.

Eugenics, thanks for the advice. I will use that frame in the future with new girls, total honesty should put an end to the paranoia. Sadly I don't think I will be able to do this with these two; but I will use it in the future for sure. Maybe it will be in-congruent with my general values at first, but if I've learn something since I discovered the redpill is that our personalities are malleable as hell.

Post: #9677

(04-08-2017 04:46 PM)realologist Wrote:  

(04-08-2017 03:23 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(04-08-2017 02:57 PM)realologist Wrote:  My 4 year old son has been spitting mad toddler game today.

While riding his bike had one girl stop and stare amazed. He said "Hi. Wanna ride me bike with me?"

Saw another girl that lives down the street. "Daddy help me put my shoes on. I'm going to play with that girl outside."

Comes in 10 minutes later. "I need some dinosaurs to bring to her house and play".

Just make sure he brings them all back...don't want any bad habits forming

+1 if he comes back with extra dinosaurs /toys

No extra toys but there are a 6 kids at that house. 5 are girls. He tried to get them to come back with to our house with "Wanna come to my backyard and come look at all my dinosaurs?" [b]It almost worked until the kids asked their parents.[/b]

It was so hilarious especially since he didn't give a fuck if they liked dinosaurs or not.

Did anybody get video? First steps and first words are often recorded...but first cockblock?...rare indeed

Post: #9678

(04-07-2017 02:58 AM)MediumRare Wrote:  I'm having a little trouble being nice enough to girls and I think I could see better results if I can get the balance sorted.

I am doing ok results wise, +6 new girls for this year (Randomly, 4 of those have come from a mad streak over the last 2 weeks!)

But I hear the same things from every single girl I am speaking to, about how I'm mean/harsh/difficult/hard work/hard to work out/too blunt/impossible to read/evil etc. Most of this is said lightheartedly but it's the same message so I need to listen.

I'm not really a social person and generally keep people at arms length so its part of my personality rather than an intentional front.

I think perhaps the problem is because I dont have any feelings towards them nor really feel inclined to be nice, when I do, it's a conscious effort to 'do nice' for the sake of keeping them around which I think they can see through.

I can't seem to work it out though because some just don't like it and say things like "oohh, that's really nice.... but also makes me feel kind of uneasy, please go back to your normal arsehole self!"

This was me in my early life in a nutshell.

Post: #9679

I feel like I'm losing my edge.

1 girl dropped off the map. Not really sure why don't care enough to figure it out. We were just kind of getting along.

#2 girl stopped texting me after I told her in person she had an attitude problem but I would fix it. May have overdid it a little trying to correct her. She gave me one of those "sorrryyy" after I negged her a little too hard and I legit felt bad and feel like I built some resentment. I won't even try a restart it she never hits me up again. Provoking strong negative reactions in women is counterintuitive to what I'm trying to do, I think I'm too hard on people.

#3 girl and I have been 'fighting' and she's denied me sex twice in a row now. I feel the attraction fading. I'm embarrassed about the whole thing. We're not exclusive and have kind of an understanding but the following is still embarrassing. She texted me yesterday saying she's depressed. After her evading me asking why twice and telling me a half truth I accused her of lying. Took two more lying accusations but I finally got the truth out of her. She has strong feelings for a co-worker and was afraid to tell me. I'm a 8/10 lie detector and shes a 3/10 liar, dont know what she was thinking. She won't accept that she lied the first two times so I call her over today and she comes without much of a fuss. Sat her down and told her I don't really care about her love interest but I do care she tried passing off half-truths and it's broken some trust. She would not admit she lied, she would only admit she left things out of her initial answer. She cried throughout and tried blaming me for her leaving things out (lying by omission) and tried to argue somehow the technical definition of lying doesn't apply to her because she's afraid of sharing her feelings and I'm pushy and domineering. She said she's sick and tired of feeling things for her coworker and agreed to follow my exact directions to make it stop. It's clear to me she's developed strong feelings for me too but she wants her co-worker more. I heard enough girl logic today for the next 10 years and every time I see a hamster wheel I'll think of a girl named [redacted]

Well girl #3 is burnt for sure fellas I can't tolerate unapologetic lying, such blatant attempts to try to manipulate me, and sex denial. That's fucked. Call me an awful person but I'm gonna see if she will actually do what I tell her to ruin her feelings for co-worker dude and try to get one last bang out of her. If I was a better man I would just drop it - maybe I'll sober up by tomorrow.

On the off chance I don't can I get some players to chime in about how to fuck her and this dude up. I mean she said she wants it and will comply so don't feel too bad. Little backstory - they both work closely in a kitchen together, she's been having work lunches together on and off for a few months, he hasn't made a move on her or asked her out despite her wanting to and making subtle advances on him. They haven't gone on a date or banged - nothing outside of work - I'm as close as I can be to being sure that's the truth.

And just like that harem collapse. It sounds mad SIMP but I do feel stuff for all the girls I see. I appreciate women and their nature, each individual one has something to offer - pussy, good company, a confidante, thoughtful gifts, life improvement, valuable observations (rare), a warm body at night, to be used as a dishwasher or an alarmclock and every once in a while they do a few of those. I've come to appreciate their company and it provokes real emotions from me to be in their presence and interact with them. Though I always know that their affections are fleeting, just like life - I still get sad when 1... or 3 leave or have to be let go. I think soon I'm gonna put in real effort to find a suitable LTR but for now I keep telling myself this is a cop and blow game - once and a while it helps

Post: #9680

TLDR chick gagged and threw up all over my cock yesterday.

Long version...Met a girl I first matched on Tinder with 6 mints ago. Been messaging on and off since but schedules never matched up.

She's 29, final year of a masters degree in osteopathy, pretty face, slightly plump body but slim waist and real curvy with it so still really attractive even though I hate fatness.

Finally met up with her at her place yesterday, had a drink at a couple different places nearby, lot of banter at first with her bragging that she normally rips guys to shreds until she gets bored with them.

I started ripping into her pretty hard and she liked that and became a lot more girly and relaxed. The talk also got sexual and open real fast.

Turns out she's 19 days into her latest drink/drug detox, and she's always had a problem since leaving home at 14!

She was surprised Iv never done drugs which she says is refreshing, but I tell her I think I'm developing a sex addiction.

She says she has one of those too.

Go back to hers and meet the couple she lives with (later tells me they are always bringing girls and guys back for threesomes)

She warms me up some chorizo chicken she'd made for her lunch tomorrow while she eats her chile.

Go and sit in the living room watching Netflix, she changes into her pjs.

After a while I put it on her and we're kissing and her top comes off, lovely tits she's had reduced.

Tells me she's bisexual and loves being choked, slapped, bitten, hair pulled spat on and thrown around, harder the better.

She wasn't bluffing because I was roughing her about harder than Iv ever done before, marking her up and almost drawing blood from biting and she was just moaning all the louder.

She got so wet we both laughed when we realised she had a wet patch that had actually soaked through her knickers AND tracksuit bottoms from me rubbing the outside.

Sticks her hand in her knickers to feel her wetness, I tell her to give me a taste.

She brings out her hand but sucks her fingers herself so I slap her arse and call her a greedy bitch, she does it again and puts them in my mouth.

Throughout all this though, she would never let my hand inside her knickers and kept telling me we can't have sex tonight.

I'm ignoring and think it's deffo on, and she's just testing me so I just kept stopping and starting and escalating.

Eventually im sitting on the sofa and whip my dick out, she jumps on and is dry humping it hard while we're kissing.

I push her off onto the floor to get her to suck it, but she says "no because if I do we will deffo end up having sex".

But then says 'unless you force me to' with a smirk.

I grab her hair and force her head down and she goes to fucking town on it, really good head.

Then she stops and takes a mouthful of water and her mouth feels cold when she starts again.

I start to push her head down harder and all of a sudden, she makes a puking sound and I feel a load of cold water over my dick and balls.

I say "was that water? Were you holding it in your mouth?"

She starts laughing and says "no, look" and sure enough, her fucking undigested chile is all over my groin.

We're laughing but I'm also kind of grossed out by it and go upstairs to wash off.

I come back down and she's saying I should go now, it's late so I get dressed but she's hovering and facing me and holding eye contact and I get the feeling she doesn't really want me to go, so I kiss her and move her toward the stairs, spin her round and smack her arse up the stairs.

She goes up, then she stops by her bedroom door and looks at me, and I motion with my head for her to go in, which she does.

I close the door and switch the light out, push her onto the bed and we're kissing, but again with her saying we can't have sex.

I get my dick out and she says really???
But then pushes me onto my back and starts sucking again, but still saying she wants to but can't.

I'm starting to get pissed off with this now and ask why.

She says 'three reasons, which I'm not going to go into now, but some things are worth waiting for"

I laugh and say there will be no waiting, and when she asked what I meant by that, I say 'because I probably won't be coming back here'

This was probably said as a last ditch attempt to seal the deal that night but also in slight irritation at the graft I'd had to put in.

It back fired though and she just got up, switched on the light and said you need to leave as she walked out the door and down stairs.

I got my stuff together and didn't say a word to her. When I came down she was stood by the front door, hands on hips properly trying to stare me out with a pissed off face, but I returned it with a fuck you stare until she looked down.

She looked a mix of disappointed and indignant as I went out the door.
I was pissed off and decided I would go no contact, but had a feeling it would not be long before I heard from her because I think she quite liked me as a possible BF.

8:50 this morning she texts me this.

"Morning. So last night was amusing. Soz for my sensitive gag reflex and for getting the hump but u pissed me off so I'm not really sorry. I thought I'd share a lil bit of info with u if u r only after ONS which btw u should of said. There's an app called Feeld, it's a hook-up site and I have had many good nights from it. Girls, boys, threesomes etc. Someone from tinder told me about it and I ain't looked back since. Enjoy"

We text back and forth a bit and turns out she is also on a no sex detox as well as the drink and drugs, which is why she wouldn't put out.

Says she is bored of ONS and wants something more.

I ignore that message and half hour later she texts this...

"I ain't saying I want a relationship before you freak out"

I laughed to myself as now I knew she likes me and I think I will actually see her again, despite the absolute fuck up she is.

She still has that girly innocence about her unlike some of the more hardened sluts Iv met and seems like she could be fun for a while.

Post: #9681

(04-10-2017 11:58 AM)MediumRare Wrote:  She still has that girly innocence about her unlike some of the more hardened sluts Iv met and seems like she could be fun for a while.

Quote:...I push her off onto the floor to get her to suck it, but she says "no because if I do we will deffo end up having sex".

But then says 'unless you force me to' with a smirk.

Quote:"...There's an app called Feeld, it's a hook-up site and I have had many good nights from it. Girls, boys, threesomes etc. Someone from tinder told me about it and I ain't looked back since. Enjoy"

Quote:We text back and forth a bit and turns out she is also on a no sex detox as well as the drink and drugs, which is why she wouldn't put out.

Post: #9682

MediumRare- That chick sounds like she has BPD. I would NOT stick your dick in that. Repeat: DO NOT FUCK HER.

"Never stick your dick in crazy" is a saying for a reason.

It's exciting at first and I'm sure the sex is fire but having recently dealt with a BPD chick, it's not worth the headache.

Post: #9683

I'm glad I'm not the only person who has the same thoughts as DarianFrey and [email protected] I get it, we want sex and these BPD type chicks can be super intoxicating but why lie to yourself and say that she's got some sort of "innocence" when everything points to the complete opposite end of the spectrum?

Post: #9684

Darien Frey that gif you funny cunt, hahahaha

I understand what you are saying and the risk of getting hooked into drama but I'm pretty good at controlling myself.

And what I meant was she still has 'the appearance' of girly innocence lol she is obviously about as far from it as possible.

But she is fun to be around and I think there is some adventures to be had with her for a few weeks.

Post: #9685

(04-10-2017 01:16 PM)MediumRare Wrote:  But she is fun to be around and I think there is some adventures to be had with her for a few weeks.

If finding a boiling rabbit in a pot on your stove is an 'adventure' then yes, probably.

Post: #9686

Hahaha I have to say I think the whole BPD thing is overdone in this community, just like it's laughable how many women throw the narcissistic, emotional abuser tag on every ex. boyfriend they break up with who wasn't a total walkover.

It's just drama and is part of any relationship breakdown, women are just more excitable that way and prone to crazy antics!

But then I'm a bit of a fuck up myself and do enjoy it lol.

Post: #9687

Hey man, you seen to be rationalizing putting your dick in a crazy person. It's all fun and games until she tries to ruin your life. We all make the mistake from time to time but members here are speaking from experience.

The sex is invariably good - but is it worth the potential restraining order, is it worth her turning that rough sex into assualt charges, is it worth her seeking out things you care about and trying to ruin them?

Smart, crazy, drug addict, woman - think about that for a second. Procede with extreme caution or not at all.

Post: #9688

(04-10-2017 01:42 PM)MediumRare Wrote:  Hahaha I have to say I think the whole BPD thing is overdone in this community, just like it's laughable how many women throw the narcissistic, emotional abuser tag on every ex. boyfriend they break up with who wasn't a total walkover.

It's just drama and is part of any relationship breakdown, women are just more excitable that way and prone to crazy antics!

But then I'm a bit of a fuck up myself and do enjoy it lol.

I think BPD is definitely a significant issue for players, and that it is more prevalent than one might assume.

In the general population of women, only a small percentage are BPD. But I bet if you reduce the sample size to single women over 25, you'll get a lot more BPD. Reduce that to attractive women, there's more BPD. And then you reduce that even further to chicks who use dating sites/apps, and you're gonna get even MORE BPD.

Why? Because decent-looking chicks who are emotionally-stable are more likely to be taken off the market by guys who want wife material. Mental stability is obviously a huge asset when looking for wifey. As those chicks get married off, the percentage of BPD chicks in the dating market goes up.

BPD chicks probably hop around from guy to guy but are too unstable to stick around for long. Soon, the people around them realize they are not long-term material. So then they have to resort to dating apps to find their next victims, I mean suitors.

Post: #9689

(04-10-2017 01:36 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 01:16 PM)MediumRare Wrote:  But she is fun to be around and I think there is some adventures to be had with her for a few weeks.

If finding a boiling rabbit in a pot on your stove is an 'adventure' then yes, probably.

You think she can cook too?! Damn bro, man up and put a ring on that!

Nah, run for the hills while you still have all your aplendages.

Post: #9690

Been experiencing a serious dry spell

Tinder is useless. Haven't been able to close the deal or get dates that lead anywhere. Feel frusterated.

Post: #9691

I feel weird posting in the players' lounge as I'm far from one and this post certainly isn't about this particular girl but just girls in general and how weird this is. So about a month ago, I logged this day game approach:

Quote:Approach 3: 7.5/10 minimal make up early 20's French girl.

Me: "excuse me.."

she looked receptive.

Me: "i thought you were cute and wanted to meet you"

She said something about being french.

I asked her if she was from Montreal or from France. She's from french.

I can't remember all the details but the convo lasted just over 5 min. I asked her if the french in France are similar to the French in Quebec. She said no not at all. I teased and said if she thinks she's better. She laughed and said yes.

We talked about why she's here. She talked about traveling here solo and that it's her last night here before venturing somewhere else. I said something about wanted to visit France. Asked if there's any asians there she said very few. I spoke a small bit of french to her and said maybe I'd fit in.

I made sure to touch her elbows and her arm lightly throughout the convo. I asked her what she's up to and if she would like to get a coffee right now. She said she had to go back to her hotel to skype her parents with whom she's meeting up tomorrow to travel but maybe we can meet later (or maybe I suggested it). She gave me her whatsapp. I said that I'd be around for another hour and a bit so maybe we could meet in an hour. She said ya maybe.

I said i'd walk along with her because I had to cross the street to go to a store (I noted this because I used to be very awkward in situations where I needed to gracefully eject but I'm better now).

Connection: 2.75/5

Convo fun/flirty factor: 3/5

Notes:

Going by what I wrote, one would assume the convo went well but I think she was just friendly. Her body was angled slightly away from me the whole time and I find that the "maybe" is never a good sign. I didn't "feel" the chemistry. As I progress, I'm sure my intuition of yes and no will be better but I think I have a good feel. She did not reply and my hunch was correct. Need to see if my intuition is just confirmation bias.

I texted her later that day (her last day in my city) and she didn't reply.

So a full month later, she texted me this late last night and my reply today:



Girls - do they even make any sense?

Post: #9692

Girl:

1. Just turned 20
2. Very pretty. Dresses feminine, according to her age
3. No tattoos or anything
4. Doesn't speak much, lets her actions talk louder
5. She enjoys my company a lot. Even actively tries to persuade me to spend more time with her, when it makes sense
6. For the last few weeks, after we finish classes she waits for everybody to leave and looks at me with puppy eyes
7. Gave me a few presents in the last months
8. One of my students
   

I'll go for it and see what happens.

Post: #9693

BetaNoMore,

It makes perfect sense. Her situation changed. She got dumped or dumped a guy, her bf cheated on her or whatever. Who cares? You sound mildly butthurt, just play it smooth, no need to talk about the past. Girls live in a moment, acknowledge her re-initiating and stack forward. Again, you're forcing a rapport by asking unnecessary question about bears. Be aloof. She reopened, so she's the one to fall in your frame. Let her chase a bit, instead of relinquishing frame immediately. Game is like that - it's a GAME. Think of it like chess. You develop the pieces, some will be stationary and locked in a position but at some point your opponent will make a move and you respond accordingly. Sometimes it's defense, sometimes, when the time is right, you go to attack, check and mate. You'll have girls contact you out of the blue. Once I closed a girl in October to have her reply only in February with utterly bullshit excuse. That doesn't matter, just acknowledge and proceed to get a bang because if a girl proactively restarts, things are lookingok good, my friend.

Post: #9694

(04-12-2017 10:04 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  I feel weird posting in the players' lounge as I'm far from one and this post certainly isn't about this particular girl but just girls in general and how weird this is. So about a month ago, I logged this day game approach:

Quote:Approach 3: 7.5/10 minimal make up early 20's French girl.

Me: "excuse me.."

she looked receptive.

Me: "i thought you were cute and wanted to meet you"

She said something about being french.

I asked her if she was from Montreal or from France. She's from french.

I can't remember all the details but the convo lasted just over 5 min. I asked her if the french in France are similar to the French in Quebec. She said no not at all. I teased and said if she thinks she's better. She laughed and said yes.

We talked about why she's here. She talked about traveling here solo and that it's her last night here before venturing somewhere else. I said something about wanted to visit France. Asked if there's any asians there she said very few. I spoke a small bit of french to her and said maybe I'd fit in.

I made sure to touch her elbows and her arm lightly throughout the convo. I asked her what she's up to and if she would like to get a coffee right now. She said she had to go back to her hotel to skype her parents with whom she's meeting up tomorrow to travel but maybe we can meet later (or maybe I suggested it). She gave me her whatsapp. I said that I'd be around for another hour and a bit so maybe we could meet in an hour. She said ya maybe.

I said i'd walk along with her because I had to cross the street to go to a store (I noted this because I used to be very awkward in situations where I needed to gracefully eject but I'm better now).

Connection: 2.75/5

Convo fun/flirty factor: 3/5

Notes:

Going by what I wrote, one would assume the convo went well but I think she was just friendly. Her body was angled slightly away from me the whole time and I find that the "maybe" is never a good sign. I didn't "feel" the chemistry. As I progress, I'm sure my intuition of yes and no will be better but I think I have a good feel. She did not reply and my hunch was correct. Need to see if my intuition is just confirmation bias.

I texted her later that day (her last day in my city) and she didn't reply.

So a full month later, she texted me this late last night and my reply today:



Girls - do they even make any sense?

Weak lead.

Not sure why she bothered even texting you back. Sounds like she lives in another country? I wouldn't expect to see her again but she would likely have no problem stringing you along over text for a few days/weeks/months/etc.

A better response would have been "whos this"

Post: #9695

(04-10-2017 01:31 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  I feel like I'm losing my edge.

1 girl dropped off the map. Not really sure why don't care enough to figure it out. We were just kind of getting along.

#2 girl stopped texting me after I told her in person she had an attitude problem but I would fix it. May have overdid it a little trying to correct her. She gave me one of those "sorrryyy" after I negged her a little too hard and I legit felt bad and feel like I built some resentment. I won't even try a restart it she never hits me up again. Provoking strong negative reactions in women is counterintuitive to what I'm trying to do, I think I'm too hard on people.

#3 girl and I have been 'fighting' and she's denied me sex twice in a row now. I feel the attraction fading. I'm embarrassed about the whole thing. We're not exclusive and have kind of an understanding but the following is still embarrassing. She texted me yesterday saying she's depressed. After her evading me asking why twice and telling me a half truth I accused her of lying. Took two more lying accusations but I finally got the truth out of her. She has strong feelings for a co-worker and was afraid to tell me. I'm a 8/10 lie detector and shes a 3/10 liar, dont know what she was thinking. She won't accept that she lied the first two times so I call her over today and she comes without much of a fuss. Sat her down and told her I don't really care about her love interest but I do care she tried passing off half-truths and it's broken some trust. She would not admit she lied, she would only admit she left things out of her initial answer. She cried throughout and tried blaming me for her leaving things out (lying by omission) and tried to argue somehow the technical definition of lying doesn't apply to her because she's afraid of sharing her feelings and I'm pushy and domineering. She said she's sick and tired of feeling things for her coworker and agreed to follow my exact directions to make it stop. It's clear to me she's developed strong feelings for me too but she wants her co-worker more. I heard enough girl logic today for the next 10 years and every time I see a hamster wheel I'll think of a girl named [redacted]

Well girl #3 is burnt for sure fellas I can't tolerate unapologetic lying, such blatant attempts to try to manipulate me, and sex denial. That's fucked. Call me an awful person but I'm gonna see if she will actually do what I tell her to ruin her feelings for co-worker dude and try to get one last bang out of her. If I was a better man I would just drop it - maybe I'll sober up by tomorrow.

On the off chance I don't can I get some players to chime in about how to fuck her and this dude up. I mean she said she wants it and will comply so don't feel too bad. Little backstory - they both work closely in a kitchen together, she's been having work lunches together on and off for a few months, he hasn't made a move on her or asked her out despite her wanting to and making subtle advances on him. They haven't gone on a date or banged - nothing outside of work - I'm as close as I can be to being sure that's the truth.

And just like that harem collapse. It sounds mad SIMP but I do feel stuff for all the girls I see. I appreciate women and their nature, each individual one has something to offer - pussy, good company, a confidante, thoughtful gifts, life improvement, valuable observations (rare), a warm body at night, to be used as a dishwasher or an alarmclock and every once in a while they do a few of those. I've come to appreciate their company and it provokes real emotions from me to be in their presence and interact with them. Though I always know that their affections are fleeting, just like life - I still get sad when 1... or 3 leave or have to be let go. I think soon I'm gonna put in real effort to find a suitable LTR but for now I keep telling myself this is a cop and blow game - once and a while it helps

You sound bitter, man. Everything okay? A general feeling of laziness and carelessness with these matters is generally a sign of something else going on, like some kind of stagnation/depression/lack of fulfillment.

Your girl #3 story is weird to me.

The just of what I'm getting is this: She's been backing off from you, denying you sex, and has confessed that she has feelings for a dude she works with?

If thats the scenario then she's already checked out from you so all you're doing from this point on is wasting your time with her. You're not gonna convince her to stop being attracted to another dude, and most likely she's lying through her teeth to you and has totally banged this other dude. Girls don't cold stop fucking another dude unless they are fucking someone else.

Move on and find new girl(s).

Post: #9696

Yeah you hit the nail on the head Stalin, in pretty much every respect.

I am a little bitter, I really liked girl #3. We sat down and talked and parted ways yesterday. Normally I would ghost out but you know feelings and stuff. I think she was a genuinely decent girl but there was just too much shit we disagreed on and in the end we didn't get along very well. I think I stopped gaming her somewhere along the line too. Which as you know is usually a bad idea. And yeah, feelings for another dude, probably banging him, whatever I'm not cool with it. I don't think shes fucked him because shes not a good liar - probabIy is fucking someone else though, couldn't get a clear read on that which means she probably is - no matter at this point. I sat down and really thought about it and even though I'm not trying to wife her up it just feels wrong. So that's that.

I'm a little sad over all that, professional life is stagnating, gotta work on some inner game. It's all good though. I'm still gaming other women, there's no point getting too hung up on something that's already done. I'm not going to ignore it though I want to learn. That's part of the reason why I post here.

Also this level of success with women is new to me. I've been reading over all my old journals and counting the women I've banged and stuff and it's pretty surreal. Post game it's night and day. Going 20+ years with no game and then picking up on the basics really fast and hitting the ground running is jarring. I'm still learning how to deal with the feelings, keeping the ego in check, and all the stuff that comes with it. I guess I'm a little moody haha, not proud of that at all. Also I am the least natural in game I've ever heard of. If it wasn't for places like this I would probably be an incel, or worse - cuffed to some horrible women being a bitch. I don't even want to think about it.

I used to have this really bad habit of being like "well fuck this" - I mean everyone does that from time to time but I was on another level. I would straight up leave the town I was in with a backpack not saying a word to anyone. Ditch my burner phone (up until last year I only bought burners) and hitchhike to wherever and start a new life.

With women I want to do the same thing, nexting girls hasn't been a problem for me. It's something I want to work on though, I really do want to have longstanding relationships with women. That's one of my goals in game but it's fucking weird like I know I shouldn't put that vibe out - or if I do I gotta mask it or dilute it because it dries pussy up like no other. There's also not a whole lot of material I can find that adresses that. I guess it's back to the basics of game, keep the girl attracted to you and be ready to leave when you can't finesse it.

Seems like most cats wanna bang hordes of new girls and fuck I do too. But I find mini-ltrs and the few ltrs I've had really satisfying. That good like soul deep everything is right in the world kind of thing which is honestly part of the problem too. External validation is addictive and it's pretty good, everyone needs it a little bit no matter what anyone says (barring some severe mental illness or whatever) - that said though an internal source of validation or contentness is paramount. No source of external validation will fix that, at least that's how I see it for myself.

So it's just shit to work on. I'm all good. I'm gonna keep working on this shit and myself and gaming other girls. Thanks for asking if I'm good, you're a G man.

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(04-13-2017 12:32 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  Seems like most cats wanna bang hordes of new girls and fuck I do too. But I find mini-ltrs and the few ltrs I've had really satisfying.

That's the rub for me. It's like I can't even get a connection with a female anymore post-game because I know that:

Men love Women, Women love Children, Children love puppies.

You never really HAVE a girl. It's just your turn. It's cruel and that sucks but that's life. You make the most of it and make yourself a better man.

Keep your head up Eugenics. I enjoy your posts so don't go disappearing on us. All of us men are in this thing together.

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We all have the classics. Read the stoics, learn to be detached. I go around doing stoics style exercises. I'll put some examples so you know what I mean. Sometimes I like to take long walks by my own, from my place to the river, walking down my beautiful old town. I see very different kinds of people along the way, some that I don't like, some that I do. And sometimes I will see a father walking with his kid, or a beautiful girl lost in her thoughts...just the kind of people I like to exist; and then I remember that they will die. And I try to be ok with it and enjoy their presence and what beauty they bring to the world. They are temporary beings, like me, and I have to learn to appreciate them as such.

Another one. When I'm falling asleep, cuddling with a girl I like, and feeling her hair against my skin, I think about how she will leave me some day. The reason does not matter, I know she will leave because I won't commit, or even if I were to, one of us would die. This is...sad, but when you think about it long enough that sadness becomes a "happy sadness", one full of acceptance. Makes me appreciate those moments even more. Then, little things like never looking back even if I pass by something I like...you get the picture. I try to live by stoicism, I know it helps, and so I encourage you all to give it a try.

To expand a little and to empathize with you, I found that my 1st girl is leaving for three years to finish her studies after summer. You see? I knew she would leave. Tomorrow we're going to spend 2 days by the beach, it will be fun. On the other hand, this gives me relief, I no longer have the problem that my bad calibration caused. Now I can continue with the other girl without feeling guilty.

Post: #9699

(04-13-2017 11:37 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Weak lead.

Not sure why she bothered even texting you back. Sounds like she lives in another country? I wouldn't expect to see her again but she would likely have no problem stringing you along over text for a few days/weeks/months/etc.

A better response would have been "whos this"

Ya I'll make sure she doesn't just string me along for attention. I just found it really strange.

She does live in France but has been visiting my city for the past few months. We exchanged messages over text last night and it turns out that she went to live in the wilderness for a month (on some island a few hrs from here) after I approached her. She said she's coming back to the city sometime within the next week or two. I'm treating this as a weak lead and not investing anything at all and certainly not expecting anything.

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Got my English flag last night. Met her 2 am on a crowded dance floor and 10 minutes later it was like "You're tall, I like that, let's go and have a good shag". Her face was so-so but she had a nice slim body and dressed pretty well - probably used to being surrounded by thirsty guys.

My country is supposed to have the highest ONS rate, but it seems like the sluttiness is on another level with the English girls.