Post: #9626

Apologies in advance for the text wall:

TLDR: Was browsing tinder profiles out of boredom and a slooty chick my gf works with saw my profile and sent her a screen shot. She broke up with me over it.


A series of events culminated to a boiling point the other day and ended a 7 month relationship I was having...

I met a girl on tinder. She had only 6 matches when we met and I was her first and only tinder date.
I was on a test blast at the time (testosterone injections for work out purposes) so I was very h0rny all the time, everytime I'd see her we'd smash a couple times.
I went off test and my drive dropped to the point where I'd only want to smash once or twice a week tops.
Additionally, since I was in such top physical shape (beyond natural limits) she thought she had to match me, and therefore started starving herself, eating only a banana and two rice cakes a day. eventually she lost her curves, body felt bony and face looked gaunt, however, she thought of herself as absolutely gorgeous. Her new bony appearance certainly didn't help my weakened libido.
She began to become fixated on the idea that if I wasn't smashing her twice a day like I used to that I must be cheating on her. I MUST BE. And she accused me of it regularly.
Now - here's where it starts to get messy - she and I met on tinder, which I used to use profusely - and I really did enjoy flipping through profiles, just on the toilet at work, or whatever, with the same morbid curiosity of someone who goes through other people's garbage. One of my gf's co workers, who is a classic sloot, was very jealous that my gf was in a relationship and was wearing a ring around that I bought her, because no guy would ever commit to her, or even talk to her again after a couple smashes. This same girl saw my profile, screen capped it, and sent it to my gf.
My gf waited for me to go to sleep and went on my computer and read through all my recent facebook conversations. A few weeks ago I was discussing an ex of mine with my guy friend who games a lot. She confronted me about it and accused me of cheating with this ex, which never happened. I simply talked about her briefly with a male friend. And she asked me about tinder. I explained my position, and that I never cheated and would never, but that I just scroll through out of interest. Kinda dumb of me to be doing that, but over all harmless.
She said all was forgiven and we could just move on and forget about it and that she loved me with her whole heart.

Later that night she called me and told me she didn't believe me anymore and that she was in fact, breaking up with me, then proceeded to lash out at me in a way I didn't even think she was capable of, calling me a disgusting person, etc, etc. I told her that if she was actually breaking up with me that we had nothing more to talk about, and I wasn't going to stick around to be insulted by her. I wished her a good night and we hung up.

I decided to go no contact for my own sanity and block her on facebook and on my phone immediately. A day has gone by and I unblocked her on my phone in the event that she apologizes, but after that lash out, I'm sure it won't happen, but I truly did love her in the best way that I was capable, so I leave the window open to her to reconcile but not having her blocked.

I blame overall the decline in secks for the problems that escalated. She was restless and jealous and anxious and I think wanted to break up with me anyway. For the record: I never cheated, just looked, and I miss this girl because besides this crazy sheet that just happened, she would cook, clean, vacuum, and sleep with me whenever I wanted. She was beautiful (naturally.. not so much after all the weight loss) and she adored her family and was very close to them.

I don't have many people irl that I'm willing to divulge all of this information with so I'm sharing it with you guys. Maybe you can look at this mess and tell me where I went wrong or what you would do in my situation if you were me right now. 99% chance of me and her never speaking again and me just working on myself to better handle the next one.

Post: #9627

Do not contact her. She will probably beg you to come back in the future.

Move on like you were nexting her. Find other girls.

You know where you fucked up...

Post: #9628

(03-24-2017 12:18 PM)Beijong Wrote:  Apologies in advance for the text wall:

TLDR: Was browsing tinder profiles out of boredom and a slooty chick my gf works with saw my profile and sent her a screen shot. She broke up with me over it.

She is crazy and obsessed. From what you wrote she broke up with you because she likes you too much and was afraid you'll cheat on her. You can do better. Sooner or later she will contact you again.

Post: #9629

I'm about to beat up my second midget this academic year.

Post: #9630

Had a fun weekend banging three plates on Fri/Sat/Sun.

My new flatmate and I are doing a friendly little competition to see who bangs more new girls. I'm at 2, and he's already at 4 new notches just since he's moved in three weeks ago, all 7s or 8s.

I like this guy.

Post: #9631

Today I realized that most of my fucked-up relationships/ possible relationships were because one of these two things:

1. Lack of comfort (most common);
2. Failure to escalate at the right times.

Good news: at least I know what I am doing wrong;
Bad news: I have to start from 0 with building my pipeline.

Post: #9632

(03-27-2017 09:17 AM)Ringo Wrote:  Had a fun weekend banging three plates on Fri/Sat/Sun.

My new flatmate and I are doing a friendly little competition to see who bangs more new girls. I'm at 2, and he's already at 4 new notches just since he's moved in three weeks ago, all 7s or 8s.

I like this guy.

Ha. My roommate and I are doing the same type of bet. We are seeing who can bang the most new notches for 2017. I currently lead 6-3. Although I was up like 5-0 in February, so he is making up for lost ground.

Post: #9633

^^^^^

Reminds me of years ago in college on Spring Break. One night all the guys decided we were going to have a contest. We'd go out "hogging" and see who could bring back the biggest girl from the bars. It was a running joke throughout the night and no one took the challenge serious, except one guy. He didn't realize we were joke and brought back a 250+lb girl. He's never lived down that one.

Post: #9634

(03-27-2017 02:55 PM)Turnus Wrote:  ^^^^^

Reminds me of years ago in college on Spring Break. One night all the guys decided we were going to have a contest. We'd go out "hogging" and see who could bring back the biggest girl from the bars. It was a running joke throughout the night and no one took the challenge serious, except one guy. He didn't realize we were joke and brought back a 250+lb girl. He's never lived down that one.

Haha I've done that too with some buddies, back in 2006 in Vegas. We even put a hand written sign on our hotel room door that said: "Gone Hoggin'"

None of us took it seriously except one guy. He didn't bring her back to the room but he did dance with her and kiss her. We were sure to get a good pic of him and the hambeast.

There's always ONE guy who takes it seriously. Good guy though.

Post: #9635

I don't think my question is thread worthy, so will put it in here.

Does any of you guys ever approached a girl that was working in a female lingerie shop? And how was the approach?

Today as I was daygaming in city center I glanced this wonderful brunette piece of ass working inside a sexy lingerie shop, as I stopped to check her out from the shop window, she crouched down to pack some lingerie in the drawer, it was a wonderful sight, even the way she did it gave me an instant semi-boner... Then I started to think how the hell am I going to approach this girl, then I turned my back to the window shop and lighted a cigarette while thinking what could be my reasoning to get inside with only women around. I thought that surely a direct approach with all these women (old and young) seeing I would be instantly rejected, and how would I pull an indirect approach in these circumstances? Surely I would not be checking or buying lingerie for my girlfriend, it would be the ultimate shot in the foot, also no one buys sexy lingerie to mom, sister or to other member of the family, also to a girl friend would not be the taken seriously or would be taken by a beta bucks... I then thought that maybe I could say that I was in the lingerie business and was checking out for ideas, but that could turn out to be an expensive lie in the future.

Ended up taking no action...and proceeded my walk.

But it is not the first time that this happened to me though, normally girls that work in these places are hot, and I always feel frustrated by not approaching.

Post: #9636

(03-27-2017 04:36 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I don't think my question is thread worthy, so will put it in here.

Does any of you guys ever approached a girl that was working in a female lingerie shop? And how was the approach?

Today as I was daygaming in city center I glanced this wonderful brunette piece of ass working inside a sexy lingerie shop, as I stopped to check her out from the shop window, she crouched down to pack some lingerie in the drawer, it was a wonderful sight, even the way she did it gave me an instant semi-boner... Then I started to think how the hell am I going to approach this girl, then I turned my back to the window shop and lighted a cigarette while thinking what could be my reasoning to get inside with only women around. I thought that surely a direct approach with all these women (old and young) seeing I would be instantly rejected, and how would I pull an indirect approach in these circumstances? Surely I would not be checking or buying lingerie for my girlfriend, it would be the ultimate shot in the foot, also no one buys sexy lingerie to mom, sister or to other member of the family, also to a girl friend would not be the taken seriously or would be taken by a beta bucks... I then thought that maybe I could say that I was in the lingerie business and was checking out for ideas, but that could turn out to be an expensive lie in the future.

Ended up taking no action...and proceeded my walk.

But it is not the first time that this happened to me though, normally girls that work in these places are hot, and I always feel frustrated by not approaching.

Regret hurts more than Rejection.

Post: #9637

(02-19-2017 07:07 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 08:39 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 08:01 PM)ksbms Wrote:  [quote='ksbms' pid='1510602' dateline='1487163774']
Met with a J-girl studying in Scotland from this

Thanks for the message, I rarely look at this lounge thread.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure your logistics were fucked. You didn't even need to kiss her, much less multiple times, you needed to bring her to your place, If you didn't think she was warm enough you should have taken her to a coffee shop or a fun place for like 15-20 minutes, THEN to the bar, THEN to your house, THEN start kissing. Kino is good but yeah, J-girls may kiss you in public but it adds to the slut alarm thing.

I think that's where you fked up. You can try inviting her to your place and cooking food and having wine or something next time, if she responds back. I wouldn't expect it though, besides you should have multiple women waiting in the wings so that you wont be obsessing over one girl, so what if she's Japanese? Her pussy aint better than anyone else's that is just as attractive as she is.

This bring me to another point. A few guys here may disagree but, I've started to soft next quickly a LOT, I dont really have time to deal with LMR nowadays, so if there are signs that a chick is going to make me have to go through the motions to fuck her, I usually end it before getting to that point, and maybe use her as a point of contact for other women or other things I do, as in activities where I'll invite multiple women to hang out with me, nothing sexual, but to increase my smv. That's a different subject/potential data sheet altogether though.

Basically, the controversial point is this: when she said she "had a boyfriend," that's usually when I know she's going to have some LMR, sure you can fuck her, but USUALLY it's a pain in the ass to do this, and I don't feel like dealing with that. . .I used to not give a shit when I was younger but, back then I didn't really know what I wanted to do. Basically after getting your logistics on lock, feel her out to see if she's going to be a problem when you go back to your place. If she mentions a boyfriend, or keeps asking "where are we going" while you go to your venues, she's most likely going to give LMR, and I usually cut the date short and put her on the back burner.

Thanks for bringing more light to my question, CJ_W.

It appears to me there are significant cultural differences the way Japanese girls perceive the courtship ritual. Didn't realise public display of affection is a big no-no, e.g., kissing (though the date was in the UK so it makes things a tad different) and that, e.g., a girl will go home with you quite easily prior any physical escalation anyway. I found the Sex with Japanese Girls post by Sinapse illuminating into J-girls' mindset - too bad haven't had a chance to read before the date. As he explains:

Failure to escalate things to sex, and you’ll end up on the outside looking in, and many girls won’t even meet you again. [...] If you do not escalate the interaction, the girl is very often not going to see you again, especially if you have met her through cold approach. [...] If a girl is out on a date with you in Japan, most of the time, sex is on the table. And much of the time, if you don’t provide it, she won’t see you again anyway.

Now it looks to be exactly the case, since 48h passed since my messaging her about meeting up again, and guess what, no reply.

Live and learn.

Not really an update, more of an observation than anything else.

Was standing outside the uni building looking good and looking to my right, then I see the Jap (ca. month passed since my last text) with her friend walking close by. As they walk past me, she does the double take, smiles, even raises her hand a bit, then I wink at her. Not that I expect anything but I think it's good to show a perfect composure, don't look butthurt or avoid eye-contact. Girls, in romantic context, are often children who rarely know what they want. Treat them as such. Her loss.

Post: #9638

One of my rotation just dropped off. Said she won't fuck me anymore because I told her she's good in bed but wouldn't date her.

Two things came out:

1. She's way more entitled than she has cause to be (19, hasn't done shit with her life, slut in the worst way)

2. There are precious few women I actually connect with at an emotional level.

Post: #9639

Something weird happened to me today.

I matched with this 18yo 7/10 off tinder. Even checked ID, pussy was legit. Laid down some game, got her to my apartment on the premise of drinks/movie. We hit it off pretty well I honestly felt like i had a little bit of connection to this girl. We get to my bedroom, start making out etc. All my complience tests up until this point were a go. She did absolutely everything I said. I told her to get me a glass of water - she did it. I told her to take off her clothes as we were making out - she did it. So far so good.

After making out I start fingering her, getting ready to see how wet she is for insertion. Moist, but not dripping wet. I start kissing on her neck, figering her, then I start biting a little bit as she looks like the type that would be into that (almost all are anyway). As I'm biting her she says in almost a shout "NO MARKS ABOVE THE NECK". So being the cocky bastard I am i say "and what would you do about it". She says "I'd punch you in throat". Of course i say "how about you try punching me in the throat then...(pause)...that's what I thought" and keep biting her (lightly guys, not enough to leave a mark).

Then out of fucking nowhere this girl starts rehearsing feminist rhetoric like it's the bible, i swear I've ever seen anything like it IRL. "NO MEANS NO, IT'S MY BODY, I TOLD YOU NO MARKS". She took a playful dominate remark and made it into an almost (literal) legitimate concern. My dick was about 3 seconds from being in her at this point but even then I know it's best to pull away. I stop the sexual escalation copletely and start asking her why, empathizing with her. She said she worked in a kitchen and has bills to pay (lies she still lives with her parents), can't have anyone leaving marks, all this bullshit. We spend about 30m going over the dynamics of a sub/dom relationship - a conversation which i enjoyed telling her the finer points of. Like how if someone is physically bigger than her can do anything they want; society can only protect her so far but "I am a nice guy, i would never do anything you objected to". Etc etc etc. Then I tell her it's time to go and drive her home.

The drive home was really awkward but I still managed to make decent conversation, engaging her the best I could trying to build some attraction before I dropped her off because I was honestly scared of some weird false rape allegations at this point but I think I'm good. We parted with a hug and some false fond farewells and that was that.

I have never had a girl not comply past that point. She was completely intent on not acting feminine and asserting her rights as if she were a man. Listen I don't really care about the manosphere that much and politics even less - even though I actively engage in a man's forum about getting women and all that. I was more just insulted that she would come at me in a masculine manner and then challenge me physically. I was in a state of shock and couldn't even believe it. I'm not opposed to slapping women either, I have done it in the past several times with different women, I don't even care when you know you have a woman you can slap her if she challenges you or you're past the point of no return. But this was different.

What actually happened - this girl wasn't turned on enough by me, she resisted/rebelled against my authority as a man, I didn't have the heart (scared of legal implication) to correct her behaviour and had to let her go - or be a bitch and comply with her frame and continue. I let her go.

I'm kinda mad, i really wanted to fuck her. She had a nice tight ass and some good titties it would've been fun.I have never been scared of a woman pulling some bullshit and trying to do the whole false-rape thing before. I yielded to the power of feminism and bitch-sympathetic laws today; and it feels awful. Fuck. Integrity is a bitch and so is the legal system. Fuck feminism, that could've been good.

Post: #9640

Quote:As I'm biting her she says in almost a shout "NO MARKS ABOVE THE NECK". So being the cocky bastard I am i say "and what would you do about it". She says "I'd punch you in throat". Of course i say "how about you try punching me in the throat then...(pause)...that's what I thought" and keep biting her (lightly guys, not enough to leave a mark).

Then out of fucking nowhere this girl starts rehearsing feminist rhetoric like it's the bible, i swear I've ever seen anything like it IRL. "NO MEANS NO, IT'S MY BODY, I TOLD YOU NO MARKS". She took a playful dominate remark and made it into an almost (literal) legitimate concern

Sounds to me more like you miscalibrated the situation: it's entirely possible (given that this chick is 18) that she's living with her parents and doesn't want them asking any questions about why she has teeth marks or hickeys on her neck.

Even if that's not the case, if she's that serious about it that she freezes up and shouts about it, it's obvious that it's a no bueno to continue with it. At this stage in the seduction you want to keep things flowing smoothly, and avoid any possible combo-breakers that would keep you from getting the bang. You could always just let up on the neck and then continue as usual. Nothing special would have been needed: just pause for a couple of seconds, a quizzical smirk (maybe one word, just 'sure', or 'alright'), and then resume foreplay (minus the neck nibbling I suppose).

If you want to see what's up with the weird reaction you can just ask her after the bang.

In any case, I definitely get the feelings of frustration right now, best to keep moving forward and on to the next one!

Post: #9641

Yeah I agree with thebassist. Of course, it's easier to think of a better response in hindsight. But something like 'ok' or 'sure' and then a grin would have been better. Or something corny like 'The only marks I'll leave will be on your soul". When you're that close to the bang, you just have to be prepared for an all out blitz of LMR, no matter how much comfort you have built prior. Always be on guard.

Plus she's young, so she is being fed this feminist bullshit 24/7. She is probably used to beta men with weak frames. You just have to play the game and adapt to the rules of your target. Once your dick enters vagina, then the whole situation changes and you're in 100% control no question. So your response may have gone over better after you had banged her.

Post: #9642

Things are going good. I spent 4 days traveling with the girl I broke my dryspell with, she's investing a lot, texting constantly, etc. So it should be more or less safe for some months. You never know though. Anyhow, it's cool to be able to relax a little.
Yesterday I had a date with another girl, 19, very petite and super shy. I kiss-closed her. Now, I could use some insight from you guys. This girl is extremely shy, really looks like she doesn't have much experience with men. Hell, she was out of air after the kiss, she was really nervous. She wanted to spend the whole evening with me, grabbed me like if I was going to escape at any moment...cute but a little weird. Well, we made plans for this next sunday, I'll be cooking at my place. Hopefully everything goes well. So this is the problem: I text her today saying that she has homework to do and that I want to see a nice place at her parent's town she's visiting this weekend. The context was specific enough as to know that I was asking for a pic, and nothing else. She said " what do you mean? that you want to come with me?". I was like wtffff is going on, and said I only wanted a pic. Do you see why I'm worried? This, and other things, are weird.

Now, I could categorize her as just cute and socially weird due to inexperience or whatever, but...I don't know, I'm confused. Have any of you deal with something similar? I'm really lost with the whole pic thing hahaha

I plan on night-gaming on friday and saturday, hopefully gaining some new leads. Some bros are going to go out as well, so it should be fun.

Post: #9643

(03-30-2017 09:05 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Yesterday I had a date with another girl, 19, very petite and super shy. I kiss-closed her. Now, I could use some insight from you guys. This girl is extremely shy, really looks like she doesn't have much experience with men. Hell, she was out of air after the kiss, she was really nervous. She wanted to spend the whole evening with me, grabbed me like if I was going to escape at any moment...cute but a little weird. Well, we made plans for this next sunday, I'll be cooking at my place. Hopefully everything goes well.

Your brief description points likely towards the fact you're dealing with a virgin. She might've been to embarrassed to tell you this in fear or being laughed at. If that's the case, give plenty comfort and little to no asshollery. Don't oversexualise (be it verbally or physically) things until in the bedroom. You can ask her outright if she's a virgin in a joking way ("your kisses... as if you were a virgin"). If this appears to be the case, plenty of assurance that it's totally fine.

Enjoy popping that cherry.

Post: #9644

(03-30-2017 04:46 AM)thebassist Wrote:  

Quote:As I'm biting her she says in almost a shout "NO MARKS ABOVE THE NECK". So being the cocky bastard I am i say "and what would you do about it". She says "I'd punch you in throat". Of course i say "how about you try punching me in the throat then...(pause)...that's what I thought" and keep biting her (lightly guys, not enough to leave a mark).

Then out of fucking nowhere this girl starts rehearsing feminist rhetoric like it's the bible, i swear I've ever seen anything like it IRL. "NO MEANS NO, IT'S MY BODY, I TOLD YOU NO MARKS". She took a playful dominate remark and made it into an almost (literal) legitimate concern

Sounds to me more like you miscalibrated the situation: it's entirely possible (given that this chick is 18) that she's living with her parents and doesn't want them asking any questions about why she has teeth marks or hickeys on her neck.

Even if that's not the case, if she's that serious about it that she freezes up and shouts about it, it's obvious that it's a no bueno to continue with it. At this stage in the seduction you want to keep things flowing smoothly, and avoid any possible combo-breakers that would keep you from getting the bang. You could always just let up on the neck and then continue as usual. Nothing special would have been needed: just pause for a couple of seconds, a quizzical smirk (maybe one word, just 'sure', or 'alright'), and then resume foreplay (minus the neck nibbling I suppose).

If you want to see what's up with the weird reaction you can just ask her after the bang.

In any case, I definitely get the feelings of frustration right now, best to keep moving forward and on to the next one!

Nailed it.

Anything other than "Okay", "sure", "cool", "no problem" should be discarded at that point.

Upside if you continue to bite, tease:
- She gets more aroused despite her clear request not to do it
- You get off on biting/teasing.

Downside:
- Lose the bang
- Girl freaks out
- Possible

You can always tease or be agressive in other ways (check out this post), but there's no way around losing the bang.

Don't beat yourself up about it.

Post: #9645

(03-30-2017 03:35 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  After making out I start fingering her, getting ready to see how wet she is for insertion. Moist, but not dripping wet. I start kissing on her neck, fingering her, then I start biting a little bit as she looks like the type that would be into that (almost all are anyway). As I'm biting her she says in almost a shout "NO MARKS ABOVE THE NECK". So being the cocky bastard I am i say "and what would you do about it". She says "I'd punch you in throat". Of course i say "how about you try punching me in the throat then...(pause)...that's what I thought" and keep biting her (lightly guys, not enough to leave a mark).

Strange but... the key mistake was to engage in a rational conversation - no rational conversation persuades a girl to get over the last hurdle of LMR. Her was verbal and it seems you tried to dissipate it in one of the worst possible ways. Could've deflected with "your skin is so soft", mentally acknowledge her request (be it rationally justified or not) and secure the bang. Once banging her, having left marks on skin wouldn't have mattered anyway. At worst, you wouldn't have seen her again. Live and learn.

Post: #9646

(03-24-2017 12:18 PM)Beijong Wrote:  Apologies in advance for the text wall:

TLDR: Was browsing tinder profiles out of boredom and a slooty chick my gf works with saw my profile and sent her a screen shot. She broke up with me over it.

....

I don't have many people irl that I'm willing to divulge all of this information with so I'm sharing it with you guys. Maybe you can look at this mess and tell me where I went wrong or what you would do in my situation if you were me right now. 99% chance of me and her never speaking again and me just working on myself to better handle the next one.

A couple things about your story that could/should have gone differently. You can't control jealous sluts that are going to try to sell you out to your girl, but what you can do is control your own actions. For one, your girl should not have access to any of your social media profile(s). She shouldn't be able to get on your computer, and further more shouldn't be able to login to your account(s). It's okay to have a Tinder profile, and if she finds out about it so what? You tell her you haven't used it in months "since we met" and the profile is still up. Whatever. Deny deny deny. That's the rule. If she wants to press you on it then you tell her to either drop it and move on, or walk out the door.

Also, rule of thumb, if a girl is really paranoid about you sleeping around often times its an issue of projecting and she is the one sleeping around.

To sum up: in the future just keep your shit on lock and always give plausible deniability.

Post: #9647

You guys are definitely right. Still could've easily got the bang with an "ok" and a little smirk. And to be honest even in th moment I knew that. Even though it's stupid I couldn't let it go.

I was a little drunk (about 4 IPAs deep in about an hour) and I stupidly let my ego get the better of me. The situation could've been handled with a lot more class and tact. Even though I know you don't address concerns like that logically with women I did it anyways, stupid. Not even just bad game; I had an ego malfunction. In the future I don't think I'm going to drink around women I haven't already fucked, and I probably shouldn't drink at all.

Thanks for the insight fellas, ya'll keep me sane.

Post: #9648

Whenever a woman gets aggressive or tries to take control in the bedroom I have felt so disgusted and turned off, I just stopped doing anything. I think she also felt the same thing. So I don't blame you at all.

If a woman shouted NO MEANS NO MY BODY MY RULES at me while I was escalating to sex, I'd tell her to put her clothes back on there and then.

Post: #9649

Eugenics, you let your ego get to you buddy. She wasn't trying to take control, she was just giving you a heads up. If some hoe tried to do something you didn't like, I'm sure you'd let her know.

Sometimes it's better to get something than nothing.

Post: #9650

Lost a rotation girl Tuesday. Got a new one tonight. Big league!