Post: #9651

It's been awhile since I posted some updates on here, honestly haven't been posting as much as I should be.

Been pipelining alot of girls and dates.

Last week was terrible of 4 dates, 2 flakes, the others were mediocre.

Older Tattoo girl reached out to me but she's touch and go, I had deleted her number also.

I smashed my friends older sisters best friend again last weekend.

We actually pretended we were swingers and picked up this big bootied latina chick, we flirted with her, got her number, she started kissing my girl, and she promised to link up after her relatives dropped her off at home from the bar.

It didn't pan out but I still banged out my girl, she just got breast reduction surgery so I had to go easy on her, still an aggro lad in bed.


What's funny is said girl above her best friend, my buddies sister, I found out she ended up talking to biker girl.

Turns out biker girl told her she was busy and just chilling and I was curious, and I asked home girl to ask biker girl what happened with me and her.

Biker didn't really answer the question and talked about another subject.

After a brief convo with my friend I decided I'm going to call biker girl the next evening.


I ended up calling biker girl, left her a VM and left it at that.

Thursday Morning she texts me telling me that she was sorry she didn't reach out sooner, she's been super busy, her dad in the hospital, taking care of her sister, working alot, she was in LA doing a make up gig a few days and suggested we meet up when she gets back.


I waited a day, and responded telling her yeah figure that was going on with her and asked when she was coming back.

She ended up texting me Sunday evening saying she got back in town late Saturday, that she was riding around and suggested we meet up that night.

We ended up riding to a bar, and talked.

Now I had my hesitations, usually I don't go back to former ex's/flings.

I honestly thought it was pretty much over.

I trusted my gut and hungout with her, I wasn't dissapointed and my gut was correct.


She's just in a truly shitty difficult time in her life.

-Her dads dying, in the hospital a long time, her dad just broke his hip there, they're having trouble finding a place to give his nutrient in his body.
-Her sister is a little shit head in high school and basically she's her mother.
-She's working fulltime at the metal shop, and doing make up gigs on the side when she can.

Overall her life is plain busy, when she does have free time, she's working on her bike or riding alone, to clear her mind.

She apologized for not reaching out to me and ghosting on me, she ghosted on alot of people in her life because everything that was going on.

She still likes me and would like to see me, BUT.

She's spending every minute she can with her dad before she dies, because she'll regret it later if she doesn't.


I simply told her, "I"m not asking for your time, just a heads up"

She apologized again, and the convo went on. She knows I'm "there for her" but I also know she's a very private reserved girl.


I'm at peace with that, maybe we'll hangout, maybe not, she's got her own life to handle.


Overall that gave my ego a boost.


I had 4 dates this week.

Monday - Cute skinny little rocker/ska girl, super fun, bubbly, I liked being around her. She kissed passionately, and texts often. She invited me to a show this Friday, but we ended up on her coming to my hood. Turns out I ended up getting a free VIP ticket to the show she invited me, so I told her we should go, but now she's feeling sick, offered to hangout with her sunday. We'll see, but I want a date 2.

Tuesday -Average girl, a love for a team we both love, with some surprise tits hiding underneath her shit, very polite and sweet. Soft spoken and easy going, we had fun, easy going and her kisses were soft. We text often also, definitely meeting up again.

Weds - Former punk rock girl with some shitty tats, and a semi speech impediment which was cute. Mediocre body, talked alot, a bit try hard, but had a fun time, went for the kiss she gives me cheek, retry and get her on the lips, but she stops me short, saying her lipstick will get on me. I laugh and go home. I sent a her follow up text the next afternoon, silence. Oh well. Of the 3, she was at the bottom of the pile, no loss there.

Thursday - Pierced Tatted semi thick girl with some decent tits and cute glasses. Defininitely raunchy of the 4 this week, pulled her at the bar, choke/pulled hair/madeout on a park bench, and got balls deep in her outside the bar on a dark street in the back of my car.

Read more here:

/thread-11951...pid1540180

4 dates - 3 successful, 1 bang, not a bad week.



Oddly enough a coworker text me last night asking me if my Latin LTR ex's name was (X).

Which I said yes it's X, a bit of of a rush came over me, thinking of a few scenarios.

Turns out my coworker and her husband were at the bar where apparently she's still working at.

My coworker creeped a pic of her, looks like she got one of her arms tatted and sleeved. She still looks good from what I could tell.

I was already drinking and jokingly said you should ask her if she knows me and see how she reacts.

My coworker asked her if she knew me, she got a bit weird and said "yes why?" but my coworker said "oh you I knew you looked familiar I met you at the company picnic"

She brightened up a bit and said oh yeah ok, my ex told her to tell me she said hi.

I know she's got a man still - and I wasn't going to reach to her.

No matter how much a woman touches your soul, it's over and you gotta move on.

I didn't get all emotional about it, I smiled for a second, moved on.

......not to mention I was balls deep in another woman in the backseat of my car outside the bar right after this all happened.



Alright, I'm off the for the week, good luck out there gents, I'm hopping on the Harley and headed to a show !

Post: #9652

Woke up to a girl washing my dishes and making waffles this morning. Good dick changes women.

It's funny because my side girl I've been seeing for a few months thinks I'm ridiculous. Once in a while she starts getting lovey dovey with me and asks me what I want in a woman. My reply never changes, it's always "A nice girl that can take care of my domestic stuff". She always says something similar to "you just want a girl to do your chores". While it's kind of true; I've only tried to explain the dynamics of that kind of relationship to her once and ever since I just turn it into some banter and drop it. Yesterday she says "what do they get in return for this housework, dick". I'm like "Yeah kinda, I have given dick so good the girl wakes up and washes dishes before but there's a little bit more to that". She just laughed and we went about our conversation. I was lying, it's actually lyrics in an SPM song but I thought it was funny as hell. She did too. Being self-entertained is pretty powerful

Well I actually did it today. It's the little things in life that make me happy.I got side girl talking about helping me clean my apartment now too - I'll be pushing for it - even just because she said I was being ridiculous.

Post: #9653

Matched with a girl on Tinder. Thought she looked familiar. She messages me, "remember me?" Took me awhile, but finally realized I had dated her and banged her back in 1998 when we were both fresh out of college. We message a for a few days and finally make plans to meet up. Turns out that the girl is actually still married. She claims she is separated from her husband BUT that they still live together. He knows she dates other people, isn't too happy with it, but puts up with it. Her life story had nothing but drama written all over it, but I think I might still pursue the bang for nostalgic reasons

Post: #9654

I'm in Puerto Vallarta right now and there is a nutritionist student conference happening.

This place is teeming with girls right now.

Facts:
- 80% of nutritionist students are women.
- Most of them are 20 or 21 years old.
- Many of them are hot.

The welcome party was yesterday and they took up an entire section of the boardwalk here. I've never found it so easy to collect numbers at night.

One girl (who had a boyfriend), told me, "I'm here with a group of 40 friends, and some of them would like to meet you." We exchanged numbers.

I've also never seen such ratios at the clubs, 5 girls to every 1 guy. And Mexico being Mexico, the guys don't approach. Where are my RVF brothers when I need them?

I was dancing with one girl from Chiapas, and she's like, you should dance with all my friends too. She put me in the middle and I was grinding with her, another girl behind me, a third one on my side, and a fourth one in front of my girl. We made out a bit, exchanged numbers, no pull. An old gringo tourist with his wife at the club a few tables away was looking over my way with his mouth open.

Hope they subscribe to the mentality of "what happens in Vallarta, stays in Vallarta". These students groups are close-knit, and younger girls are notoriously flaky.

Post: #9655

Had a pretty hilarious encounter last night that you guys will enjoy:

Tuesday I had a Korean who wanted to meet up, turns out when she said “I’m off work Tuesday” it meant she wanted to hangout Monday night (had a great date with Shy Girl that night)

Decided to hit up a random Bumble, called her, she agreed to meet in a few hours, then gave me the “my girl just broke up she needs me” excuse.

I had another MILF who offered to hangout last minute Tuesday, I declined because I had the above plans.

Shy girl offered to take me to Wed’s night game but I declined for reasons above.


I had hit up floppy titted latina girl earlier in the day and she finally responded asking what time to meet, I let that simmer while I found out was going on with the above, tell her 8:30.

She comes right over, she's wearing a leather jacket with long white tee that seems to be kind of dirty, because fashion.

I got excited to see a certain comedy that came up on netflix so I put it on and went downstairs to get her.

We walk back up and sit down and she jokingly complains about how the movies sucks and I should put something else on.

I start laughing and tell her it just got put on Netflix and I’m excited to watch it, she tells me it’s lame, and I tell her that the show she likes to watch is lame, and that another show is way better.

She tells me to change it, I just laugh and tell her she’s free to leave, she laughs and gets up and gets her purse.

She’s still whining, I’m on the edge of the bed and bring her close to me, she isn’t having it.

I laugh and say, “you’re acting like this over some movie ?”

“I drove all the way out here and you can’t compromise on watching something else, actions just speak louder than words with you”

Something in me just snapped – I stood up.

This entitled no sense of humor lizard thinks I need to change everything for her.

Fuck THAT.

I got up and said, “Alright then let’s go”

I open the door to my room, I feel like she stood there for a millisecond not realizing I’d call her bluff.

She walks downstairs and I follow her out, open the garage, she grabs her shoes, and walks right out.

I don’t say a word.

Close the garage, shake my head and laugh.

Something about that whole exchange with her really bugged me, shame, with what she was wearing, which just a long tee shirt, she was probably ready to fuck me (3rd date kate).

The entitlement oozing from her as if she was a 10 was a turn off, so I kindly told her to fuck up.

I ended up watching the entire movie and laughed my ass off, I even got a few new numbers off dating apps in between.

Well, at least I got some mediocre head from her and she's a spitter.

Spitters are quitters anyways.

Post: #9656

So I met up with that chick I smashed last Friday (report given here: /thread-11951...pid1540550)

She's crazy and I fucked up badly. She's very very crazy more on this later.

I picked her up and we went to a beer spot. Had a drink and she started telling me about ANOTHER ex that she had after her marriage. Apparently this ex is super crazy and had a live in gf which she did not know about while they were dating. Apparently they broke up a few months ago and he stalked her or something - RED FLAG #1

Then I joked about her being trouble or whatever and she flat out told me that I should run away while I still can RED FLAG #2

Then she told me that she's seeing a psychologist to work out the failed relationships she's had etc - RED FLAG #3

She menetioned something about my profile and then pulled up my profile. she had at least 25 matches and said she had to go to invisible because she was having too many matches and it was too difficult to be genuine with so many matches. RED FLAG #4

I got us a jug of beer to go and decided to go back to her place to play a drinking game. Just basic stuff where we rolled dice and did some truth/dare, stripping stuff, making out, touching etc. After a bit, we were both only in our bottom undies and making out/touching quite a bit. She was adamant on not having sex tonight though. I sensed that she was semi serious this time so I with withdrew a bit and when the dice rolled "kiss" i would tease her and only give her a peck.

Eventually I took her to her bed and she was still adamant on no sex. She did blow me for a bit but said no sex and said stuff like "I'm trying to protect both of us" or some sort of crazy dramatic thing.

I tried to work through it but at this point I'm sure I came across as needy... Then she tells me this:

Her: "hey I need to tell you something"

Me: "..."

Her: "I have a business arrangement"

Me: "..." (I was thinking that she was making escorting on the side or something"

Her: "see, when i told you that I last had sex 2 days before having sex with you, this guy I know and I have an arrangement where we're monogamous hook up buddies and I know it's stupid I agreed to being monogamous. But I can't have sex tonight until I talk to him about it even though him and I have only had sex once"

I then tried to say some stuff like "we both like each other and we're here now. Figure that other stuff tomorrow" but still no dice. She then started saying that we can't always have what we want. She also said she is on her rag (which is true, because I could see her pad below her underwear).

RED FLAG #5 - all this crazy drama and some sort of weird hook up situation

A bit more back and forths and making out and her laying on me etc and then said it's best that I should go. I said alright I'm not going to force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. I got dressed. stood by the door and asked her if she was sure. She started kissing me. I said fuck it and took her back to her room.

Tried to escalate, got her shirt off but she was definitely not having sex so I stopped. I was rather disgusted at myself for acting this way and just not noping the fuck out of there initially but eh. Got dressed and just kissed her on the cheek and said I hope she figures out the stuff she's got going on.


I started driving home and 15 min later, she texted me and said it ended awkwardly and she was naive to think that it wouldn't. I was thinking about ignoring the text but against my better judgement, I called her while driving.

She was talking about it being awkward refusing sex and me apparently being upset. I said it shouldn't have been awkward and it's all good but I thought she was talking about it being awkward when she talked about her fuck buddy. I tried to play it cool the best that I could and said the sex is whatever but my main issue is that I don't want to get involved in all this drama where she "belongs" to some other dude. I said we're not dating exclusively so we're free to see whoever but if some guy owns her like that, then wtf am I doing?

She said she was hoping to find something more than just sex. I laughed and lied saying that I think of her as more than just sex but I'm not going to get into some weird thing where I have to battle for her AND she's having sex with the other guy and not me. I told her that she should figure out what she wants to do. She asked me if we have chemistry and I asked her to answer. We both agreed that it was electric (I was playing along).

Then against my better judgement again, I told her to start touching herself. I got home and then we had phone sex.

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Pretty disgusted with my behaviour. This late 30s chick has a sea of red flags and I'm still sticking around? I've dated crazy chicks before and this one seems like she tops all of them. Borderline personality at best, and could definitely be way worse.

First of all, since I was encountering all that BS resistance, since I felt that the bang was off the table at that point, I should have remained cool and ejected. How to eject without looking butt hurt? I should have kept making out for a bit longer and then said "it's getting late and I should go." Had I done that, I would have walked away with not only all the power, but my dignity. The way I played it, I came off as a thirsty desperate loser, making her think that she was some sort of prize. Best play of all? Just leave and never talk to her again.

I need to not be a desperate fucking thirsty loser and fight for older, damaged chicks like this. What does it say about me if I can recognize that this is nothing but trouble but I still want to stick around?

My 14 month dry spell didn't help and of course she's going to be intoxicating but she a dark triad woman that will ruin any man's life. But I'm better than this. I won't make the same mistakes as I've done in the past and my worth is much higher than this. Keep working on game, and hopefully find a few women that aren't completely bat shit insane.

It is tough out there. She had so many matches and so many options. I almost think that it's better to be celibate and live according to higher principles and values than it is to drag myself in the mud and play this game where I'm dirtying myself with low consciousness people.

Post: #9657

(04-06-2017 03:06 AM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  So I met up with that chick I smashed last Friday (report given here: /thread-11951...pid1540550)

She's crazy and I fucked up badly. She's very very crazy more on this later.

I picked her up and we went to a beer spot. Had a drink and she started telling me about ANOTHER ex that she had after her marriage. Apparently this ex is super crazy and had a live in gf which she did not know about while they were dating. Apparently they broke up a few months ago and he stalked her or something - RED FLAG #1

Then I joked about her being trouble or whatever and she flat out told me that I should run away while I still can RED FLAG #2

Then she told me that she's seeing a psychologist to work out the failed relationships she's had etc - RED FLAG #3

She menetioned something about my profile and then pulled up my profile. she had at least 25 matches and said she had to go to invisible because she was having too many matches and it was too difficult to be genuine with so many matches. RED FLAG #4

I got us a jug of beer to go and decided to go back to her place to play a drinking game. Just basic stuff where we rolled dice and did some truth/dare, stripping stuff, making out, touching etc. After a bit, we were both only in our bottom undies and making out/touching quite a bit. She was adamant on not having sex tonight though. I sensed that she was semi serious this time so I with withdrew a bit and when the dice rolled "kiss" i would tease her and only give her a peck.

Eventually I took her to her bed and she was still adamant on no sex. She did blow me for a bit but said no sex and said stuff like "I'm trying to protect both of us" or some sort of crazy dramatic thing.

I tried to work through it but at this point I'm sure I came across as needy... Then she tells me this:

Her: "hey I need to tell you something"

Me: "..."

Her: "I have a business arrangement"

Me: "..." (I was thinking that she was making escorting on the side or something"

Her: "see, when i told you that I last had sex 2 days before having sex with you, this guy I know and I have an arrangement where we're monogamous hook up buddies and I know it's stupid I agreed to being monogamous. But I can't have sex tonight until I talk to him about it even though him and I have only had sex once"

I then tried to say some stuff like "we both like each other and we're here now. Figure that other stuff tomorrow" but still no dice. She then started saying that we can't always have what we want. She also said she is on her rag (which is true, because I could see her pad below her underwear).

RED FLAG #5 - all this crazy drama and some sort of weird hook up situation

A bit more back and forths and making out and her laying on me etc and then said it's best that I should go. I said alright I'm not going to force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. I got dressed. stood by the door and asked her if she was sure. She started kissing me. I said fuck it and took her back to her room.

Tried to escalate, got her shirt off but she was definitely not having sex so I stopped. I was rather disgusted at myself for acting this way and just not noping the fuck out of there initially but eh. Got dressed and just kissed her on the cheek and said I hope she figures out the stuff she's got going on.


I started driving home and 15 min later, she texted me and said it ended awkwardly and she was naive to think that it wouldn't. I was thinking about ignoring the text but against my better judgement, I called her while driving.

She was talking about it being awkward refusing sex and me apparently being upset. I said it shouldn't have been awkward and it's all good but I thought she was talking about it being awkward when she talked about her fuck buddy. I tried to play it cool the best that I could and said the sex is whatever but my main issue is that I don't want to get involved in all this drama where she "belongs" to some other dude. I said we're not dating exclusively so we're free to see whoever but if some guy owns her like that, then wtf am I doing?

She said she was hoping to find something more than just sex. I laughed and lied saying that I think of her as more than just sex but I'm not going to get into some weird thing where I have to battle for her AND she's having sex with the other guy and not me. I told her that she should figure out what she wants to do. She asked me if we have chemistry and I asked her to answer. We both agreed that it was electric (I was playing along).

Then against my better judgement again, I told her to start touching herself. I got home and then we had phone sex.

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Pretty disgusted with my behaviour. This late 30s chick has a sea of red flags and I'm still sticking around? I've dated crazy chicks before and this one seems like she tops all of them. Borderline personality at best, and could definitely be way worse.

First of all, since I was encountering all that BS resistance, since I felt that the bang was off the table at that point, I should have remained cool and ejected. How to eject without looking butt hurt? I should have kept making out for a bit longer and then said "it's getting late and I should go." Had I done that, I would have walked away with not only all the power, but my dignity. The way I played it, I came off as a thirsty desperate loser, making her think that she was some sort of prize. Best play of all? Just leave and never talk to her again.

I need to not be a desperate fucking thirsty loser and fight for older, damaged chicks like this. What does it say about me if I can recognize that this is nothing but trouble but I still want to stick around?

My 14 month dry spell didn't help and of course she's going to be intoxicating but she a dark triad woman that will ruin any man's life. But I'm better than this. I won't make the same mistakes as I've done in the past and my worth is much higher than this. Keep working on game, and hopefully find a few women that aren't completely bat shit insane.

It is tough out there. She had so many matches and so many options. I almost think that it's better to be celibate and live according to higher principles and values than it is to drag myself in the mud and play this game where I'm dirtying myself with low consciousness people.

NEXT.

Come on, if she was 8+, 18-23 years old, DG or social circle girl met girl, but late 30s, 6? You clearly are overinvested, just after one medicore internet chick bang to write about in such detail. Forget her.

You haven't fucked up, the girl sounds proper crazy. Not a girl type crazy, as all of them are, but proper crazy. Run for the hills before she'd tell you she's pregnant with your kid or something.

Post: #9658

I agree with ksbms. You need to NEXT this girl immediately.

Tell her you met someone else and you have an 'exclusive' arrangement where you don't talk to any other people. Or some other bullshit.

Post: #9659

Shy girl won't get my dick inside her. She has problems getting two fingers inside, she tried but it just didn't work, she was wet as hell so that is not the problem. I'm lost here. We've spent two nights together and I still have to get the notch, fuck my life. I'm providing plenty of comfort as @ksbms suggested, which is working fine. She cried because she thought I was mad at her or something. I don't know if she's a little crazy, completely crazy or just very nervous. Not that I care THAT much, right now I'm visiting my other girl. I will spend 3 days here chilling then go back to my high school town to meet family and friends during the holidays.

I will appreciate your advice regarding how to actually have sex with shy girl, she's the hottest I would bang to date, and I'm losing my mind over this problem lol. Crazy how sexy pussy gets our minds running around. She's saying that it's weird how comfortable she feels around me, specially considering that we don't know each other for long, so I guess I have plenty of time to do it, but still, I'm growing impatient.

Also, a question to the veterans. I'm feeling somewhat bad about being with two girls at the same time. More when I think that they are being very sweet to me. How do you deal with this? I won't settle, I will continue the player path but this is new to me and there are some regretful feelings going on. Also, I'm paranoid about hairs getting on my clothes, people watching us when outside, my whatassp messages. Shit, this shit is stressful. I know you could just say "abundance mentality bro", but I would appreciate something more insightful.

Thanks a lot to the community, if it weren't for you I wouldn't be able to grow like this!

Post: #9660

Got drunk last night and slapped some strippers ass. Beta friends of mine got angry at me and said that they were real men who don't disrespect women. Haha, fun times.

Post: #9661

(04-06-2017 11:53 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Also, a question to the veterans. I'm feeling somewhat bad about being with two girls at the same time. More when I think that they are being very sweet to me. How do you deal with this? I won't settle, I will continue the player path but this is new to me and there are some regretful feelings going on. Also, I'm paranoid about hairs getting on my clothes, people watching us when outside, my whatassp messages. Shit, this shit is stressful. I know you could just say "abundance mentality bro", but I would appreciate something more insightful.

You're thinking about it too much. ENJOY your time with each one when your with that specific girl. Don't think about the other one (which will only result in feeling guilty). Give the girl your with that night all of your attention.

Don't even lie to them about being exclusive either. It may seem like a good idea at the time, but it can only bring a web of lies that will bite you in the ass later.

Post: #9662

(04-06-2017 03:06 AM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Pretty disgusted with my behaviour. This late 30s chick has a sea of red flags and I'm still sticking around? I've dated crazy chicks before and this one seems like she tops all of them. Borderline personality at best, and could definitely be way worse.

The biggest step is to acknowledge you fucked up and realize this bitch is crazy.

Quote:First of all, since I was encountering all that BS resistance, since I felt that the bang was off the table at that point, I should have remained cool and ejected. How to eject without looking butt hurt? I should have kept making out for a bit longer and then said "it's getting late and I should go." Had I done that, I would have walked away with not only all the power, but my dignity. The way I played it, I came off as a thirsty desperate loser, making her think that she was some sort of prize. Best play of all? Just leave and never talk to her again.

When she dropped that line, you trusted your gut, you thought that was fucking weird. You simply should've gotten up, gotten dressed, and left.

There's no explanation needed, if you do give one, you can play a little dread game as you're leaving.

Tell her that you don't need the added drama, you don't deal with women "like her", you can think of a few other ideas.

You tried battling her LMR she didn't budge, game recognized to the dude whose fucking her - he's DEEP into her head, but he's also kind of a cuck.

In the end be your own man, GET UP AND LEAVE.

Quote:I need to not be a desperate fucking thirsty loser and fight for older, damaged chicks like this. What does it say about me if I can recognize that this is nothing but trouble but I still want to stick around?

It says you're weak, you need to sack up and say "FUCK this". It means your thirsty and you don't have standards.

This forum will help you change this.

Quote:My 14 month dry spell didn't help and of course she's going to be intoxicating but she a dark triad woman that will ruin any man's life. But I'm better than this. I won't make the same mistakes as I've done in the past and my worth is much higher than this. Keep working on game, and hopefully find a few women that aren't completely bat shit insane.

She's no dark triad woman, she's just a fucked up emotional unstable slut.

It's painfully clear why you're this weak right now, it's completely understandable, you're so close to banging a chick, so you'll try anything to get it last minute.

A year and 2 months has to be rough for not being able to bang.

Quote:It is tough out there. She had so many matches and so many options. I almost think that it's better to be celibate and live according to higher principles and values than it is to drag myself in the mud and play this game where I'm dirtying myself with low consciousness people.

Something hard to swallow, women are more in demand than men, yes, even the ugly ones.

Men are at fault for this because as men, most (outside this forum) don't have standards or will fuck anything, or accept all types of shitty loser females.

Sometimes you've gotta bang a girl called a "slump buster" aka a woman you'd never be seen with in public.


Consider this a lesson, it could've been ALOT worse.

Learn from this, accept what areas you're weak in, begin to work to fix those.

Post: #9663

thank you kbsm, [email protected], and kaotic.

The support and wisdom of this forum and people like you guys who take your time out of your busy days to help out guys struggling with women saves lives and I don't say that lightly.

I talked to a good friend of mine and he basically hit on all the points that you guys hit on and what I know I should be doing. Thanks again.

Post: #9664

The road to sex is paved with good intentions?

No. The road to sex is... paved with a bumpy road and so far the bumps have proven insurmountable. Am I frustrated? Not really. I've learnt a patience of a monk. In the game, emotional control tops everything. In this instalment, two girls enter stage right and... leave stage left.

A Spanish brunette I approached on the street and who showed me a mad interest, including touching, talking a lot, and asking for my facebook (I took her number anyway), I've been with in a sparse messaging contact. Her last message was she'd contact me before she'd go home for a couple weeks, has she had tine to meet up. Didn't reply and forgot about her. Over a week passes, it's Saturday evening, and out of the blue she messages me, in short, what I was up to. Replied I was opened for suggestions, she replied the same, told her to meet up, she said yes and where to meet. However, by the time she sent last message it was 10:25pm.

Girls being girls, don't plan things straight. What transpired was she lived out of town, and by bus it would take her over an hour to get to the bar near my place. Suggested a cab, she said it was way too expensive. I have contemplated splitting 50/50 but she asked if we could reschedule for Sunday but I was leaving for business at 7am that day and by that time it was already past midnight. She said we could meet up after she comes back from Spain.

Approached a half Middle Eastern, half British chick in food section in M&S store. Petite, dark haired, quite sexy, nicely dressed, 6.5-7. First she faced the isle, but she warmed up and opened up body posture, had good 10 minutes conversation, got number. Probed logistics, which will be key - she was finished with uni, and on Friday leaving Scotland and I was out of town for business until Wednesday afternoon. Had good, tough to the point, texting back and forth with her, asked if Thursday would be good for her, she replied yes - my assumption was, if she had an early morning flight, she'd propose Wednesday. I meet people from my social circle Wednesdays, thus Thursday worked for me better as well. Little did I know...

Girls being girls, don't plan things straight. Should have inquired when exactly was her flight on Friday. Leave and learn. First mistake, suggested to meet up at 7:30pm. Should've suggested 6pm-630pm. This will be my default operating time for the first date. Girls being girls, she asked to push until 8pm, she arrived 8:15pm. Messaged her to dress cute, she came wearing trousers, not such a great sign. Went for tea, she took wine from the get go. Girl was a chatter box and not very complaint at the beginning, was leaning back but she'd take time before she leaned in. Had problem with personalising the conversation and then it was 21:40 pm. Told her to finish up the wine so we could move to another spot. Trying to save time (the waiter took way too long to bring drinks in the first place), went straight to pay up at the counter. Made a small talk with a barmaid, then sped her up to leave the venue.

All in all, conversation was good but couldn't make the chemistry work, she seemed having half her thoughts drifting away. As we bounced it improved a bit but what transpired was she had a flight at 7am and still needed to pack - wasn't sure if she decided she wouldn't bang tonight for genuinely caring about her flight or just a cheap excuse - after all, one fucking suitcase. I think the latter. We got to another bar, she said she wouldn't have alcohol because she needs to be up for the flight. It was my favourite spot, unfortunately, live music and near the booth were we sat there were some drunk girls and started singing very loud. Not the best atmosphere to make out. Checked out upstairs, was quiet. Suggested another drink, she agreed but only to one glass of wine, which she wanted to share. We got upstairs and again, she would be a chatterbox talking about some irrelevant stuff, had to redirect all the time. Wasn't getting any green lights, but a true player escalates on amber. After all, she was there, sitting next to me. Less convenient, because in chairs next to each other but still. Compared her tiny hand to mine, complemented on this and that, started playing more and more with her hair.

Frustratingly, she would every now and then say she'd have to be going soon to catch her flight. Ignored and kept composure. In for a penny, in for a pound. More hair play, went for a kiss. I've never been denied a first kiss in my life. Not one, fucking time. Any time I go for it, girls have seemed to get under immediate spell. This time first time was the charm as well and she was a nice kisser. Finally, got an overt acknowledgement of sexual attraction but it was near midnight and she didn't drink much. Said we should bounce, got outside, kissed more. She liked it but was sobering up and couldn't make it happen. She acknowledged, had it not been for the flight, things might have happened. She said she wouldn't have time to pack, if we went to hers, anyway, decided to walk her back. We walked but the situation deteriorated, she said she wouldn't let me in, and after crossing traffic lights, I kind of slowed down to see her reaction, she kept walking, I came to a halt, she turned around a good few steps ahead of me, smiled, waved, then kept walking away. I turned around and musing over my bad luck, strolled back home fighting against moderate wind. Perhaps should've been more aggressive, tried to pour more alcohol in her, who knows? Things I could've controlled - meet her up earlier, inquire exact logistics of her flight. Never rely on what a girl says.

I presume, I will never see her again, though she lives in London, where she moves back in a week's time. I texted her, "did you make it home?" and she replied "yes, thank you', and with a smiley face (inconsequential perhaps, but it's the first time ever she would use an emoticon at all - sometimes this little things can mean a lot). Interesting piece of information. Dad died when she was 20, now she's mid-twenties, her mother doesn't leave in the UK anymore, so she basically lives by herself in a house in a posh area of London. How could I plan this angle, given this piece of information? I go to London every month or so anyway so don't mind trying a long game, of sorts...

Post: #9665

fuxk man it just seems like there are not enough nice available women where you are, so you are over analysing and over emphasising the outcome of just a couple of dates.

Hard to think abundance in that environment man, it can't be easy.

apart from moving I don't know what the answer is, getting better at nicking birds will only get you so far if there aren't many around, besides being harder to do when u can't get much practice!

Post: #9666

Tinder date flaked. Made out with lesbo who wants to wingman and makeout with me on the reg. She's apparently the university LGBT awareness trainer. Lol.

Got a match on bumble. Little on the thick side but whatever. She's into me.

Post: #9667

I'm having a little trouble being nice enough to girls and I think I could see better results if I can get the balance sorted.

I am doing ok results wise, +6 new girls for this year (Randomly, 4 of those have come from a mad streak over the last 2 weeks!)

But I hear the same things from every single girl I am speaking to, about how I'm mean/harsh/difficult/hard work/hard to work out/too blunt/impossible to read/evil etc. Most of this is said lightheartedly but it's the same message so I need to listen.

I'm not really a social person and generally keep people at arms length so its part of my personality rather than an intentional front.

I'm decent enough looking for my age so it's easy enough to get them in bed, but when I try and be abit nicer to try keep one around for a while, they don't seem to like it and end up drifting away.

I think perhaps the problem is because I dont have any feelings towards them nor really feel inclined to be nice, when I do, it's a conscious effort to 'do nice' for the sake of keeping them around which I think they can see through.

I can't seem to work it out though because some just don't like it and say things like "oohh, that's really nice.... but also makes me feel kind of uneasy, please go back to your normal arsehole self!"

Yet others, if I don't be nice say things like "please! just be nice to me!! A morning text or a compliment would be nice every now and then, not just insults!"

(I dont insult them, just tease a lot)

I can't seem to get it right tho, one or two Iv probably lost through making an effort and maybe seemed too interested but most are through being too cold or disinterested.

It's not a big problem at the moment because there are always more girls around but when I meet someone I like, I want to be able to keep it going and not fuck it up.

Any one else have this issue?

Ps I came out of a 13 year relationship/marriage last year so still adjusting.

Post: #9668

(04-06-2017 11:53 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Also, a question to the veterans. I'm feeling somewhat bad about being with two girls at the same time. More when I think that they are being very sweet to me. How do you deal with this? I won't settle, I will continue the player path but this is new to me and there are some regretful feelings going on. Also, I'm paranoid about hairs getting on my clothes, people watching us when outside, my whatassp messages. Shit, this shit is stressful. I know you could just say "abundance mentality bro", but I would appreciate something more insightful.

Some people are simply able to do this, and some are not. Like you, I can't juggle multiple girls. In part it is because I do not have that callous streak when it comes to girls - fundamentally I see them as a little dumb and vulnerable, and I am uncomfortable taking advantage of that. The other part is that one girl's nonsense is quite enough, the thought of having to find time to talk to multiple girls regularly is too awful for words.

A lot of people love the game, some just love the pussy. For me personally it's the latter, I much prefer to limit myself to stints with high quality girls. I would rather fuck one 9 for 6 months until I'm bored than add 10s of notches of variable quality. It's a preference and a character type thing, one that is probably best just come to terms with.

Post: #9669

(04-06-2017 12:19 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 11:53 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Also, a question to the veterans. I'm feeling somewhat bad about being with two girls at the same time. More when I think that they are being very sweet to me. How do you deal with this? I won't settle, I will continue the player path but this is new to me and there are some regretful feelings going on. Also, I'm paranoid about hairs getting on my clothes, people watching us when outside, my whatassp messages. Shit, this shit is stressful. I know you could just say "abundance mentality bro", but I would appreciate something more insightful.

You're thinking about it too much. ENJOY your time with each one when your with that specific girl. Don't think about the other one (which will only result in feeling guilty). Give the girl your with that night all of your attention.

Don't even lie to them about being exclusive either. It may seem like a good idea at the time, but it can only bring a web of lies that will bite you in the ass later.

Thanks, this makes sense. I will have to have a conversation with the first one, as this went too far into a relationship dynamic. And I will be sure to not let this happen with shy girl again. I guess I'm inexperienced.

(04-07-2017 04:13 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 11:53 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Also, a question to the veterans. I'm feeling somewhat bad about being with two girls at the same time. More when I think that they are being very sweet to me. How do you deal with this? I won't settle, I will continue the player path but this is new to me and there are some regretful feelings going on. Also, I'm paranoid about hairs getting on my clothes, people watching us when outside, my whatassp messages. Shit, this shit is stressful. I know you could just say "abundance mentality bro", but I would appreciate something more insightful.

Some people are simply able to do this, and some are not. Like you, I can't juggle multiple girls. In part it is because I do not have that callous streak when it comes to girls - fundamentally I see them as a little dumb and vulnerable, and I am uncomfortable taking advantage of that. The other part is that one girl's nonsense is quite enough, the thought of having to find time to talk to multiple girls regularly is too awful for words.

A lot of people love the game, some just love the pussy. For me personally it's the latter, I much prefer to limit myself to stints with high quality girls. I would rather fuck one 9 for 6 months until I'm bored than add 10s of notches of variable quality. It's a preference and a character type thing, one that is probably best just come to terms with.

Hmmm, that might be part of the equation. To be honest, I like the feeling of abundance, makes me calm and more bold, and more happy. But yes, I feel guilty...I will see how this develops, maybe being more upfront about me not compromising would make it easier

Post: #9670

^ First things first - do you want a relationship?

Girls feed on your energy, if you are open to being serious, they sense it and respond.

If you don't, it's relatively easy to keep it casual. Meet them once every 10-14 days, keep contact to a minimum in between meets, don't lie, don't make promises - just be present and enjoy their company while they are there.

I've been juggling 4 girls for a couple of months now, two of which for quite a while (#1 about 10 months, #2 about 6).

They come over, we cook or smoke a joint or watch a movie, bang like demons (courtesy of NoFap), and then they leave. It's a great time. They know what's up.

I'm not a player. I like banging girls multiple times rather than one night only. I enjoy their company. But I get bored very easily, so this variety keep things interesting for both me and them.

I go out with them once in a while, usually to walk around or eat ice cream. No paranoia. I always triple check the bed and bathroom for hair though, .

This is just another case of you diving into yourself and figuring out what you want. As long as you are being real with the girls (this means not lying; it doesn't mean tell them everything), there should be no guilt.

Post: #9671

Currently seeing 3 girls. To expand on ExploringReality's guilt

I give each one my full attention when I'm with her. No girl has mentioned exclusivity or motioned that they want to be with me and only me. Not a single one. Believe me it's never good to assume that; and it goes both ways.

Whatever you may think about the default template for relationships there really isn't one especially in this day and age. Most girls are playing the field and fucking around and if they don't even mention exclusivity you can bet they are fucking/snapchatting nudes/talking to other men. The ones that do bring up exclusivity are too probably, but i'll handle that case by case.

There's no reason to feel guilty if you're casually seeing someone, hell - even seeing them every day. There is absolutely no reason to be paranoid, check hair, all that shit. You may want to do it out of politeness to your female company but there's another way to play it to.

Feel free to leave out a hairband, bobby pin, girls shirt, or whatever clearly feminine item around. It's even better if you hide it a little bit and they somehow find it - because then they feel guilty for snooping but you bet your ass they will bring it up. When they bring it up keep your frame and remind her there has been no mention of exclusivity, you never lied about seeing other women, you did nothing wrong. Fuck don't even do that, just say "thats my friend [girls name], I should get that back to her". Watch her lose all of her leverage trying to get you to drop other women, cuff her, and make her the one - or maybe she freaks out and is gone for good - or maybe she doesn't care at all - whatever. Just don't lie to them when they ask for exclusivity or if you are seeing other girls. By all means evade the question but don't lie.

My frame lately is incredibly callous and open. I joke about seeing other girls all time but it's just serious enough. Girls don't even ask me "what are we" because they already know. I spend a lot of time making the times I am with these girls good times, i go out of my way to be entertaining, charming, pull at their heart strings and fuck them right. In return I expect them to behave and not cause me problems and I plant seeds in the back of their mind that they are replacable. I used to kind of emulate these behaviours but it's become a lot more congruent lately, I really am ready to be done with any of these girls at any time - I'm not gonna lie I might be sad or a day or two but that's my problem. What ends up happening is they value my company, typically comply with what I say, and every once in a great while one of them will go out of their way to try to impress me. It's pretty good.

Once in a while I do drop a little beta-bait and make some complicated implication that I am looking for the right girl, but if they don't bite they don't bite. I'm not giving myself to a woman that wouldn't do the same and there's no shame in that.

This one girl I posted about which has colloquially become known as "underwear girl" to one of my side girls (showed her pictures of her doing my dishes in her underwear) kind of floated off into the distance and it was just so fucking casual I couldn't help but laugh. A couple days before she was due to make a trip out of state she started acting distant and flakey. Our last text exchange was like this

Me: Hey are you going to make time to come see me before you leave?
Her:[blah blah blah girl shit] I'm super busy and me and my friends are going to the coast then sunday I'm really busy too
Me: I wouldn't worry about it
Her: oh, okay

Haven't heard from her since. This was a girl that was acting like she loved me too. Now guess whos doing my dishes, loyal side girl. Funny part is underwear girl has matched with me on tinder twice since. I could probably have her back without a whole lot of trouble. Why I don't? I feel disrespected because she was suppose to come see me before she left, she told me she wouldn't be fucking any other dudes while she was gone, and i cought her slipping a few times just enough to make me mad. She's already been replaced.

It kind of sucks but that's just the way you have to play it until you find a girl that will dedicate herself to you and actually put in effort and care about you in a serious way. Until they absolutely prove that to me I just enjoy things for what they are. Two people enjoying eachother's company, the social dynamic, having great sex and passing the time.

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Here's an example of something I did last night. I had a potential new client come in that owned a jewelry store and i gave him a free marketing consult and made plans to handle his web prescense. As a thank you he had asked if I had a girlfriend and i help up 3 fingers and said "tres" (he was a spanish dude). He just laughed and said he had a watch for me and I should give it to the right one. That got me thinking.

Had this chubby 6 girl over same day and fucked the shit out of her after some banter and visiting and stuff. 3rd time seeing her, 2nd time at my place. After I fucked her we were settling down into a movie and we started talking to eachother about our days. I told her about the spanish gentleman and told her what happened word for word what I just told ya'll. Then I just told her I'm just going to sell it. She immediately replied "are you lying?". I said "haha no, what do you think I would give it to the two other girls". All in a pretty cocky tone trying to be funny. I forgot what happened after but we got along great and fucked in the morning - no problems. She actually got more complient after that, we're working on a little attitude problem of hers.

So today I actually went and picked up the free womens watch, not a great piece but it's pretty okay, could be pulled out for a semi-formal event nothing too tacky. Loyal side girl's birthday is today so I gave it to her went and had the links taken out by my soon to be jewelery client. I usually don't give gifts to women but I honestly feel she deserved it and it costs me nothing. She's been buying me gifts and doing me favors since about a week after I met her a month or so ago. That may be a mistake but time will tell. Chubby 6 put in her place. Loyal side girl said she loved it and I built some SMV because jeweler guy treated me well and wouldnt let me pay for his service all in front of her, jeweler guy got to see I wasn't bullshitting about having women and everyone walks away happy. This kind of congruence helps me be happy and never feel guilty

Post: #9672

My 4 year old son has been spitting mad toddler game today.

While riding his bike had one girl stop and stare amazed. He said "Hi. Wanna ride me bike with me?"

Saw another girl that lives down the street. "Daddy help me put my shoes on. I'm going to play with that girl outside."

Comes in 10 minutes later. "I need some dinosaurs to bring to her house and play".

Post: #9673

(04-08-2017 02:57 PM)realologist Wrote:  My 4 year old son has been spitting mad toddler game today.

While riding his bike had one girl stop and stare amazed. He said "Hi. Wanna ride me bike with me?"

Saw another girl that lives down the street. "Daddy help me put my shoes on. I'm going to play with that girl outside."

Comes in 10 minutes later. "I need some dinosaurs to bring to her house and play".

Just make sure he brings them all back...don't want any bad habits forming

+1 if he comes back with extra dinosaurs /toys

Post: #9674

(04-08-2017 03:23 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(04-08-2017 02:57 PM)realologist Wrote:  My 4 year old son has been spitting mad toddler game today.

While riding his bike had one girl stop and stare amazed. He said "Hi. Wanna ride me bike with me?"

Saw another girl that lives down the street. "Daddy help me put my shoes on. I'm going to play with that girl outside."

Comes in 10 minutes later. "I need some dinosaurs to bring to her house and play".

Just make sure he brings them all back...don't want any bad habits forming

+1 if he comes back with extra dinosaurs /toys

No extra toys but there are a 6 kids at that house. 5 are girls. He tried to get them to come back with to our house with "Wanna come to my backyard and come look at all my dinosaurs?" It almost worked until the kids asked their parents.

It was so hilarious especially since he didn't give a fuck if they liked dinosaurs or not.

Post: #9675

(04-08-2017 04:46 PM)realologist Wrote:  

(04-08-2017 03:23 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(04-08-2017 02:57 PM)realologist Wrote:  My 4 year old son has been spitting mad toddler game today.

While riding his bike had one girl stop and stare amazed. He said "Hi. Wanna ride me bike with me?"

Saw another girl that lives down the street. "Daddy help me put my shoes on. I'm going to play with that girl outside."

Comes in 10 minutes later. "I need some dinosaurs to bring to her house and play".

Just make sure he brings them all back...don't want any bad habits forming

+1 if he comes back with extra dinosaurs /toys

No extra toys but there are a 6 kids at that house. 5 are girls. He tried to get them to come back with to our house with "Wanna come to my backyard and come look at all my dinosaurs?" It almost worked until the kids asked their parents.

It was so hilarious especially since he didn't give a fuck if they liked dinosaurs or not.

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