Post: #9576

Two new girls this week. Atlanta graduate student from Tinder, while I was there for a night. Literally, two drinks and back to my hotel room and it was on. She scratched me though, which I thought was lame. As cool as they think they are, women still want to mark their man. To me thats all that is.

The other, an early 30's careerist in my city. It took a few dates, but I slowed down the process, and it happened easily at her place. For the last two weeks she has been texting me incessantly, and I stupidly gave in and started texting back as often. I was away all week on the road, and we texted all day back and forth. At first I thought the texting was weird, and I even told my mom, I said "mom, I like this girl, but shes texting me like crazy. I think she's lonely or an attention whore." Well stupid me, after we were texting all week back and forth, I come home and say "Im Home!" and she says, Ill see you at the end of next week?!?!??? So after all of that contact, about the same amount as my last crazy Latina ex, this chick blows me off for a whole week when I get home. I could have ghosted her, but my temper popped up and I texted her a string of texts, calling her on it. Needless to say, I wont be seeing her again. But if she was blowing me off for a week, then I really didnt lose anything. This girl used me as an emotional tampon over text, and I fell for it. I got the bang, but given her crazy texting, and me falling for it, it sucked me in and brought me down. Is it weird she looked like and was from the same country as my ex? Same hair, eyes, height, age, weight, body, etc? Yes that happened.

Lesson learned, always maintain text frame, especially early in the interaction. Dont give in and text her like shes a GF. Go dark on her ass. Meanwhile the college student is sending me masterbation snaps from ATL and waiting for me to come back.

Lesson learned, calling girls out is always a bad call. In the moment it feels as good as an orgasm, and 10 minutes later, it feels like you just shagged a fat chic. Dont do it. Put down the phone and walk away.

I built up a big pipeline of online lately, but I am taking a step back. I want to start approaching again and make that my source of woman. Online women always have an agenda, and frankly the ones only looking for sex are annoying these days. Sort of anti-climatic. When no game is required I get bored, as if the interaction is contrived. Call me crazy but sex is easy, thats not even my agenda any longer. Would like to find a mLTR or something longer term, with a higher quality woman.

Post: #9577

Smashed the Latina Nurse - boring vanilla sex - but I needed to fuck something asap.

Hungout with the MILF trainer last night, she's still looking good, in great shape, still funny dorky.

It's like we didn't skip a beat - we haven't hungout since last October - right around the time I met Biker Girl.

Watched Logan last night, pretty good, I like dark gritty movies, it was past 12, she has a kid so I just macked down on her, and sent her on her way.

Wasn't pushing my luck, she's down to hangout this coming week.

Got even more numbers and pipe lining dates for this week, should be good.

Post: #9578

(03-11-2017 07:29 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  Man I be on OK cupid, or tender and I'll run some tight game and get to numbers...

Then I'll get laid or jack off and realize how substandard the ok cupid or tinder girl is

That baby gravy will have us lying to ourselves to get a nut..oh well lol

I call this reality the 'harsh light of day' of online dating. Powerful and sobering. Important to remember when feeling thirsty.

Post: #9579

While I agree you "awaken" after a fapping.

Its a double edged sword - it can make you lazy, ease off on game, and not chase.

I don't fap, I don't watch porn, I'd rather hit up girls to meet up or go chase new leads.


I feel more driven, in the past year and a half I probably have done it a handful of times (put in tended).

I just feel lethargic and bummed after fapping - I'm jacking off to some dude banging out a girl, some girl eating another girl out, some girl flipping her clit and getting paid for me to watch her.

I unplugged a long time ago, I can't go back.

Post: #9580

(03-11-2017 09:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  While I agree you "awaken" after a fapping.

Its a double edged sword - it can make you lazy, ease off on game, and not chase.

I don't fap, I don't watch porn, I'd rather hit up girls to meet up or go chase new leads.


I feel more driven, in the past year and a half I probably have done it a handful of times (put in tended).

I just feel lethargic and bummed after fapping - I'm jacking off to some dude banging out a girl, some girl eating another girl out, some girl flipping her clit and getting paid for me to watch her.

I unplugged a long time ago, I can't go back.

Ditto. I fapped for the last time in December 2015 and made it my new year resolution to never fap again. Whenever I'm hungry and my wife isn't home, I game. I don't need to fap to feel satisfied.

Post: #9581

(03-11-2017 07:38 PM)Vaun Wrote:  Two new girls this week.

Correction; three. Right after I made this post, I got a "hey I'm in town" text from an old friend from San Diego. A girl I have wanted to bang for years. We had a few drinks then got into an Uber to go to a party, and low and behold I had her pants off in the Uber, and we went to my place instead. Feeling pretty tired and bloated from the giant breakfast her and I had. Totally got everything else off of my mind, have a big shit eating grin.

Haven't had a great week like this in a while. Feels really good, like I want to go out and approach.

Post: #9582

Great stuff. Funny, how it works. The girls at the end of the day decide when we can fuck them. Sometimes I think it's mostly don't fuck it up game that pays biggest dividends on average.

Post: #9583

(03-12-2017 10:52 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

(03-11-2017 07:38 PM)Vaun Wrote:  Two new girls this week.

Correction; three. Right after I made this post, I got a "hey I'm in town" text from an old friend from San Diego. A girl I have wanted to bang for years. We had a few drinks then got into an Uber to go to a party, and low and behold I had her pants off in the Uber, and we went to my place instead. Feeling pretty tired and bloated from the giant breakfast her and I had. Totally got everything else off of my mind, have a big shit eating grin.

Haven't had a great week like this in a while. Feels really good, like I want to go out and approach.

And after I wrote this post I went out for a few and approached a hot girl standing in the train station. We were both waiting for someone at the same spot. She was taking selfies, so I asked if I could take them for her, she said yes. Then I chatted her up for a little while. Randomly a few of my friends walk by so I say hi to them, and they look at her like, what is Vaun doing with this girl.. They leave, I chat her up some more, turns out she is a model waiting for her photographer. I get the number.. Texts commence now

Lets say I ended up with the girl who blew me off above. I would have missed finally banging my friend, and making this approach today. Getting pissed about that set me off on to a roll.

Post: #9584

(03-10-2017 01:35 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I'm out of town on business. Smokin cigars and drinkin bourbon. I've banged 4 different girls in the past 4 nights. Had one girl start crying right as she came while I was still fucking her. She pushed me off and curled up in a fetal position. I never came. Another girl last night tried to wrangle me into a threesome with her hideous lesbian friend. Told her I was not going to fuck her friend and if she wanted that she could go home with her. She ended up ditching her friend and came to my hotel. She told me to cum inside her because she just finished her period and "wasn't ovulating." I was like nahhh and blew on her tiny belly. Later on in the morning I banged again and came inside. First time I ever came in a girl that didn't have some type of contraception. Weirded me out. Interesting week.

I just mix crushed Plan B into the morning Bloody Mary.

Post: #9585

(03-11-2017 09:33 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  I call this reality the 'harsh light of day' of online dating. Powerful and sobering. Important to remember when feeling thirsty.

(03-11-2017 09:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Its a double edged sword - it can make you lazy, ease off on game, and not chase.

......

I feel more driven, in the past year and a half I probably have done it a handful of times (put in tended).

I just feel lethargic and bummed after fapping - I'm jacking off to some dude banging out a girl, some girl eating another girl out, some girl flipping her clit and getting paid for me to watch her.

I unplugged a long time ago, I can't go back.

Not fapping definitely puts the wolf back in you.
Thats interesting you said it makes you lazy tho, for me it allows me to focus.
I just can't stand trying to get something done and I pop a random erection or I can't stop thinking about sex. shit is mad frustrating

Post: #9586

I keep getting positive results from my plates after a bang or two when they something like the following:

"Oh i left a hickey"
"hehe it smells like a girl in here"
"I left my underwear on your night stand"

and I say something simple like

"That will be fun to explain to my other girls"
"My side girl ain't gonna like that"

It gets stupid positive results and is a source of banter later on, it's actually been a key factor in my whole push/pull game. Makes the girl want to be my favorite; and it's just the truth.

Not only that it opens my plates up to me and they feel comfortable sharing all the info i want to know & didn't want to know about their past and current sexual exploits.

When one of my side chicks called me out on me faking being a player I showed her a picture of a girl doing my dishes in her underwear. Now she's doing my favors (bought me a whole skin care routine and took me out to lunch).

Even what's becoming my main girl is completely fine with me cracking that "joke" every once in a while, a girl that's spending all her free time with me, doing my laundry, cleaning my house, doing my dishes. What the fuck? I must still be a little blue pilled here because this shit doesn't make sense. I feel like I'm treading some dangerous territory playing one girls against another against another.

These girls seem happy to do it though, frame is fucking unshakable. They know I can leave them for another at any time. And they actually seem happy as fuck with me all dreamy eyed and submissive.

Can I get some input? Why is this working so well? Am I going to get my nuts cut off in my sleep?

Post: #9587

Last line is too funny!

Post: #9588

I mentioned it in another thread but my newest plate is a red head and has the best body I've ever fucked. A solid 8.

However, she's nuts. She has been arrested 4 times for assault. 4 times! I've only known her for a week and a day and she is already texting me crazy shit about how I better not be talking to other girls. I told her my ex (baby mama) was wanting to get back with me. I did this to create just a little dread but that was a mistake. She then goes on a tangent how she usually doesn't date guys with kids and that she won't compete with any woman as she doesn't have to (she doesn't) and she can get good dick anywhere. She thinks I'm a fuck boy.

That's the bad stuff. The good stuff is she feeds my ego with telling me about how hot I am and she loves my dick. She is coming over tonight and wants me to eat her ass. Haha it will be a first for me but I'm down. I told her that if I eat her ass I'm also going to fuck her ass. She liked that. So she's definitely a dirty girl and loves sex.

I thought the challenge of spinning a redhead would be fun. And even though she is crazy hot I just don't know if it's worth the headache. Constant shit tests, covering my tracks, being accused of shit that I haven't done...and it's only been a week!

Post: #9589

^ time to hit the eject button bud

Post: #9590

(03-14-2017 08:47 AM)Snowflake Wrote:  ^ time to hit the eject button bud

Yeah...I know.

But goddammit...why do all the hot chicks have to be bat shit crazy? I mean, they all are crazy but the hotter they are the less they hide it.

Post: #9591

(03-13-2017 11:51 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  Can I get some input? Why is this working so well? Am I going to get my nuts cut off in my sleep?

This is how abundance mentality and solid frame is supposed to work. No need to over analyze or overthink it. Just enjoy and don't let frame slip.

Post: #9592

Went to a newer plate's place last night, we've banged 4-5 times over the past couple of months, always at my house. She didn't have any condoms and I didn't bring any, so the topic of other girls came up.

Her: Did you bring a condom?
Me: No, don't you have any?
Her: No, you're the first I've been with since my divorce last year
Me: Well if you're inviting me over to your place you should have some
Her: Well, are you having sex with lots of other girls?
Me: Mostly just dudes (thanks wi30!)
Her: That's worse!
<we both laugh a lot, I change the subject, make out a bunch more, she's rubbing me all around her wet pussy, I can tell she's conflicted>
Her: You never answered my question
Me: What question?
Her: Are you having sex with lots of other girls?
Me: Well I don't consider us exclusive
Her: I didn't either
Me: Look, I'm fine either way, there's plenty of ways we can make each other feel good (I'd already gotten her off multiple times with my fingers and mouth)
<brief discussion on last time we were tested, proceed to bang raw>

I'm finding that dodging the question/changing the subject of other girls doesn't work really well, they bring it up again shortly wanting to know. Perhaps something with the way I present myself, I don't know.

Post: #9593

^I steal deal with this issue. I'm starting to think it's one of those issues to nip in the bud and stop before they bring it up. But they always do this, wait to go raw then use it as an excuse to corner us.

Post: #9594

(03-13-2017 11:51 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  Can I get some input? Why is this working so well? Am I going to get my nuts cut off in my sleep?

while it seems to us men cruel to play upon their insecurities, you are actually enhancing their enjoyment because women need an emotional spike, even if its dread. when she does your dishes or accepts your seed, she has overcome the dread and has accomplished something.

also, everything in this world is measured on a relative basis. a person in poverty in the U.S. is rich by the standards of some African countries, or by U.S. standards 2 generations ago. Her ability to have you, the mental and emotional reward she gets, is greater when she knows you have options. Doing the dishes is her way of ensuring that she continues to access to the good feelings you give her.

man, thinking about this, I want to hire some models to pose for these kind of pictures for me - doing my dishes, laundry, etc.

I once had an ex girlfriend stalk me. She would know what bars I would go to and hide and spy on me. Then, at the end of the night, she would reveal herself and say goodbye to me in front of my new girl and her friends. The effect that had on my new girl, and even more so her friends, was profound; it was like I was a celebrity.

Post: #9595

Why do you want to hire some models to pose for those kind of pictures?

Post: #9596

@Runs

I tell them not since I broke up with my ex, and we both got tested. Even though there was no ex. Or a test. . . .it looks healthy though. *Rolls dice*

Post: #9597

(03-14-2017 08:26 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  I mentioned it in another thread but my newest plate is a red head and has the best body I've ever fucked. A solid 8.

However, she's nuts. She has been arrested 4 times for assault. 4 times! I've only known her for a week and a day and she is already texting me crazy shit about how I better not be talking to other girls. I told her my ex (baby mama) was wanting to get back with me. I did this to create just a little dread but that was a mistake. She then goes on a tangent how she usually doesn't date guys with kids and that she won't compete with any woman as she doesn't have to (she doesn't) and she can get good dick anywhere. She thinks I'm a fuck boy.

That's the bad stuff. The good stuff is she feeds my ego with telling me about how hot I am and she loves my dick. She is coming over tonight and wants me to eat her ass. Haha it will be a first for me but I'm down. I told her that if I eat her ass I'm also going to fuck her ass. She liked that. So she's definitely a dirty girl and loves sex.

I thought the challenge of spinning a redhead would be fun. And even though she is crazy hot I just don't know if it's worth the headache. Constant shit tests, covering my tracks, being accused of shit that I haven't done...and it's only been a week!

Crazy=great sex... (there's a thread somewhere)

Molested as a child + eating disorder=the gold standard

Post: #9598

I don't usually like RSD videos, but this one stood out to me because of how closely it paralleled my own experience. After reaching an intermediate level in the game, I hit an extremely strong sense of player burnout, which hobbled me game-wise for over a year.

The causes of this were varied. Banging girls off of daygame and Tinder made me realize how little sex matters to most women, and that there was a good chance that almost every woman on campus had banged a variety of dudes from a variety of backgrounds. This fucked with my head despite knowing this fact academically. Banging a black girl who had only banged black football players, nailing other girls after asking them for directions, and other such instances was a pretty huge mindfuck for me -- I was shocked that these things even worked. I got extremely jaded and pessimistic about what this meant for society -- how could you trust any woman in this society, if she had been dressed down by such a massive variety of guys?

I also started getting sick of some of the retarded shit that women pull -- I had one girl ask me to eat her ass while refusing to make out with me because it was too intimate. I later had an experience where halfway through fingering a girl, she whipped out her phone and started texting her boyfriend of seven years "I love you" -- something that left me intensely disgusted and disillusioned with the game. I wanted no part of a person who could straight up lie and betray someone who had been there for her for years.

Then the sheer brutal effort of daygame -- spending hours of my time to finally hook up with a hot girl, only to have her ghost on me. All of this together was enough to drive me temporarily crazy and completely burn me out with women.

This video definitely helped me make sense of this phase in my development. I'm at a stage where pulling women off of online, daygame, or nightgame isn't super difficult, but I'm having trouble motivating myself to meet women after repeatedly having such mindfuck/bad experiences with them. Collecting notches is meaningless at this point, as is having casual sex with women who I don't particularly like. If you're in the same position as me, I recommend you give this video a watch.

It talks about enjoying the process, rather than caring too much about the result -- about having fun with game as opposed to just using it as a way of getting laid.

Post: #9599

(03-15-2017 03:31 PM)RunsWithScissors Wrote:  Went to a newer plate's place last night, we've banged 4-5 times over the past couple of months, always at my house. She didn't have any condoms and I didn't bring any, so the topic of other girls came up.

Her: Did you bring a condom?
Me: No, don't you have any?
Her: No, you're the first I've been with since my divorce last year
Me: Well if you're inviting me over to your place you should have some
Her: Well, are you having sex with lots of other girls?
Me: Mostly just dudes (thanks wi30!)
Her: That's worse!
<we both laugh a lot, I change the subject, make out a bunch more, she's rubbing me all around her wet pussy, I can tell she's conflicted>
Her: You never answered my question
Me: What question?
Her: Are you having sex with lots of other girls?
Me: Well I don't consider us exclusive
Her: I didn't either
Me: Look, I'm fine either way, there's plenty of ways we can make each other feel good (I'd already gotten her off multiple times with my fingers and mouth)
<brief discussion on last time we were tested, proceed to bang raw>

I'm finding that dodging the question/changing the subject of other girls doesn't work really well, they bring it up again shortly wanting to know. Perhaps something with the way I present myself, I don't know.

You're hesitating and letting her lead in this exchange. It's a good idea to bring condoms anyway (even if you want to raw dog, starting with a condom before she can request one and then ripping it off halfway through rarely gets a protest - in her mind you're usually safe but so caught up in the moment with her that you're making an exception) but if I was caught without and she asked if I brought one the first thing that pops to mind would be to say "why, you got something I need to know about?", laugh and immediately go back to playing with her. This puts her on the defensive and associates a negative rush with the question making it less likely to come up again.

When a girl is rubbing your cock around her wet pussy you're already stalled at the green light with cars honking behind you - grab her by the back of the neck (primal submissive spot) and put it in.

Going down on a girl and then quickly moving up and kissing her while you put it in works too.

The "dudes" line is decent, another along the same line is "just you at the moment but twist my arm and I might let you bring a couple others in" which again puts her on the defensive.

Post: #9600

Been banging out new pussy left and right lately. Can't stand condoms- especially during long, hard sessions. I'm convinced they're giving me occasional post-coitus burn. All is well when I finish- until a few minutes later when it starts to feel irritated and painful down there.

Also getting solid and/or unsolicited responses from online chicks and my text pipeline. Must have something to do with the cycle of the moon, or perhaps these women need some winter warmth.