Post: #8626

(09-22-2016 02:21 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I have more girls that want to see me than I have free nights to see them currently. I'm turning down pussy for other pussy.

If there are in girls in daily life you see that you'd be intimidated or hesitant to approach now is the time to go full boar at them, they will smell success.

Post: #8627

(09-21-2016 10:52 PM)Rudeman Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 09:46 PM)wi30 Wrote:  I got the repeat bang because I came across as nonjudgmental and told her stories about past hookups to relate.

That's basically my game withe the younger girls:
1) I'm non-judgmental
2) You don't have to hold back with me - I'm opne to anything
3) I'm not clingy - won't try to GF you, but I'll treat you right
4) I have tricks in bed that you will love and most girls will never experience
5) I'm older and sophisticated and can open you to new experiences (restaurants, concerts, knowledge, events).

Get that ASD turned off before you even pull her back to your place.

And yes this works great for sluts. But it also works great for shy. low count girls who need the comfort of knowing they won't be judged.

Exactly right on all counts. The shit girls have told me because I don't judge them....out loud. You wouldn't even believe me. A lot worse things than merely being into 'sugar.'

Post: #8628

Plate said goodbye tonight. Found another guy. Still, strung this one out much longer than expected.

Banged out two freshman in the last two days. Indian and Chinese. Brought a third home tonight, but she left because she has a boyfriend.

Post: #8629

Just had an online girl spiral out of control on me last night because I didn't want to buy her dinner. I'm talking walls of text accusing me of being poor/homeless, not being able to afford a dinner date, and an endless pile of delusions about how she thinks she is some classy and graceful lady that deserves to be wined and dined. I tried something that a lot of people, especially newbies, have talked about: calling a girl out. Spoiler alert: it did nothing.

I should have guessed she was a bit of a weirdo ahead of time as we chatted back and forth on OKC for about two weeks while I was out of town talking about getting together and she refused to text me until I was back in town. Her rationale made absolutely no sense which was a red flag that she was probably a little psycho but she looked hot in her pics so I carried on. See transcript below:

On OKCupid:

Me: Whaaat you put on face masks before you go to bed too? What a coincidence!
Sent Sep 10

Her: Lol Hi Good morning.. aren't you in Oklahoma?
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Just for the week. Business trip. I guess this website knows where I am... creepy (OKC does not do this. I manually changed it on purpose)
Sent Sep 11

Her: How it changes it for you where you go? That's interesting
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Big brother is always watching haha
Sent Sep 11

Her: Well let me know when you're back, we can be spontaneous and smoke a joint and go grab food whenever :-) (In like Flinn. Easy slut status confirmed.)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Meh: shoot me a text. Way easier xxx xxx xxxx
Sent Sep 11

Her: K
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Her: What's Ur name?
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Menya zovut xxxxx
Sent Sep 11

Me: and you?
Sent Sep 11

Her: xxxxx xxxxx
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Well ms xxxx shoot me an el texto
Sent Sep 13

Her: Yeah sure I'll text you but first why don't you let me know what you want to go do or when you want to go on a date? Then I'll text you (makes no sense)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Her: Actually get off in an hour and a half and don't have plans, do you want to smoke a joint and grab some food? (She seems eager and desperate here)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: I'm in Tulsa on business won't be back till after the weekend we can get together then. Texting is just way easier than messaging back and forth on this website
Sent Sep 14

Her: Oh okay now you're not going to be here until the weekend. Yeah I guess hit me up then
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Told you I was in Tulsa for the week remember? If you gimme a number I'll text you when I'm back in town we can grab food and chill
Sent Sep 14

Her: Since I'm not sure that you will even hit me up why don't I just give you my number when you're back in town? Just text me on here and I'll give you the number if you're still interested but I don't want to have people's number in my phone for a week and then you don't text (This logic makes no sense)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Aw you worried I'll flake on ya? Whichever makes you more comfortable I'll just hit you up on here then sure
Sent Sep 14

Her: Ya everyone's a flake.. Ok
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Hola xxxxx
Sent Tuesday

Her: Hey you
Sent from the OkCupid app Yesterday

Me: I'm back in town hmu to chill xxx xxx xxxx

On Text

Her: Hey whats up its xxxx :-) what are you up to tonight? Any plans?

Me: Hola chica unfortunately I am but id love to hang. I'm deff free Sunday night if your down

Her: Sunday evening or Sunday night?

Me: Uh both?

Her: Okay well let me know if you want to go to dinner or something

Me: That sounds rad I'd like that

Her: Okay so are you asking me to dinner then? Like a date? (wtf? this is where she starts going off the rails...)

Me: Lol should I wear a suit and tie? Well grab some grub together sure

Me: Maybe we could make dinner together thatd be fun

Her: You're saying it like I have to bring my own money and pay for myself lol is that the case?

Her: Make dinner? Really? You can[t] take me to dinner the first time we meet? LOL

Me: Lol let's just get drinks and we'll go from there

Her: No thanks

Her: I'm looking for a real man who knows how to ask me on a date and plan a time, not beat around the bush about who has to pay, then ask if we can make some dinner because it's cheaper, and then say let's get drinks first and see. I'm a classy girl not one of these Hoodrats u mess with (Of course you are)

Her: Good luck take care

Me: Adios (I should not have even texted this)

Her: Are you homeless? Do you not have a job? Why are you unable to take a woman to dinner if you're on a dating site!?

Me: Do me a favor and lose my number

Her: Why is your phone getting turned off? LOL no problem I just can't believe that there's so many of you losers on a dating site but you can[t] take a girl on a date. It's all the same shit

Her: Not only that but you've been in my inbox for like the last month or more(2 weeks) trying to talk to me all the time and finally when I gave you my phone number and try to make plans with you, you can't even ask me to a regular dinner, what you don't have 40 bucks? Get the fuck out of here cheap loser trying to get something for nothing not me

Her: Why don't you do all the women on this site a favor and delete your dating profile.

Me: No. Bye

Her: Yeah maybe you'll find some other stupid broke bitch that wants to hang out with you and doesn't realize that you can[t] take it[her] out properly. Maybe you'll get a molested girl where[or?] a girl with no self-esteem. That's your type.

Her: No wonder you're single, and broke. Why don't you get money before you start trying to hang out with people.

Her: BLOCKED (she didn't block me)

Me: (This is where I decided to experimenting with tell her whats up.) If you want the truth it's because your pics look slutty and you kept asking me to smoke weed and grab food. You seem more like an easy lay than some bitch who should be wined and dined. I'm a busy dude and not looking for a girlfriend right now. Just cool fun pepe to meet and spend time with and see what happens. Seems like you're not my type.

Me: And I happen to make a lot of money. None of which I'll be spending on your entitled misguided ass

(The rest of the conversation is all her)

Her: I don't have any slutty pictures (HA!) I'm a beautiful woman with amazing style and taste. I make great money and work for myself, I live by myself and I'm a hundred percent independent (I don't know how or why any of this is relevant but she obviously feels the need to talk herself up after I basically just told her she's a sleazy looking weed slut) I've been abstinent for about 9 months now(???), because I don't have sex with people who don't deserve it. So looks like you would have wasted both of our time if I wasn't smart enough to see through it. Thank God I am smart.(Uh huh...) Don't text this number(I already told her this 1000 words ago)

Her: (Yes she still texting because she feels real guilty about how much of a whore she looks like on her dating profile and I called her out on it) There is no "slutty" picture of me anywhere. You're just trying to make me feel bad because you're broke and not willing to spend money on women. The truth is you're looking for an easy lay where you don't have to spend money. That has nothing to do with me. I was just too smart and saw through it so kindly delete my number and I will be blocking you now. What a waste of a person.

---end---

I checked her profile today. She still didn't block me and she removed all her slutty pics, otherwise I would post them. She had one that was a pro shot of her in a tanktop and underwear sniffing a fat blunt. She also had one in a tight short tank and daisy dukes unzipped leaning up against a car. There were a couple other slutty/hippie pics with facepaint and shit. She removed all of them.

Lesson here is: identify difficult/crazy women early and don't ignore your psycho-meter in lieu of your dick. Also, it's never beneficial to you to tell a girl the real deal. Just let her talk herself out and don't respond. Any little response can feed more into it no matter how innocuous.

This free loading hoe wanted a meal ticket and that was the only thing she was having. I don't see how I could have salvaged this in my favor. She's hot, but she's also 32

EDIT: In hindsight maybe telling her the score was positive. After all it got her to remove her sleazy looking pics in an effort to look a little more wholesome. Meh

Post: #8630

(09-24-2016 01:18 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Just had an online girl spiral out of control on me last night because I didn't want to buy her dinner. I'm talking walls of text accusing me of being poor/homeless, not being able to afford a dinner date, and an endless pile of delusions about how she thinks she is some classy and graceful lady that deserves to be wined and dined. I tried something that a lot of people, especially newbies, have talked about: calling a girl out. Spoiler alert: it did nothing.

I should have guessed she was a bit of a weirdo ahead of time as we chatted back and forth on OKC for about two weeks while I was out of town talking about getting together and she refused to text me until I was back in town. Her rationale made absolutely no sense which was a red flag that she was probably a little psycho but she looked hot in her pics so I carried on. See transcript below:

On OKCupid:

Me: Whaaat you put on face masks before you go to bed too? What a coincidence!
Sent Sep 10

Her: Lol Hi Good morning.. aren't you in Oklahoma?
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Just for the week. Business trip. I guess this website knows where I am... creepy (OKC does not do this. I manually changed it on purpose)
Sent Sep 11

Her: How it changes it for you where you go? That's interesting
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Big brother is always watching haha
Sent Sep 11

Her: Well let me know when you're back, we can be spontaneous and smoke a joint and go grab food whenever :-) (In like Flinn. Easy slut status confirmed.)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Meh: shoot me a text. Way easier xxx xxx xxxx
Sent Sep 11

Her: K
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Her: What's Ur name?
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Menya zovut xxxxx
Sent Sep 11

Me: and you?
Sent Sep 11

Her: xxxxx xxxxx
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Well ms xxxx shoot me an el texto
Sent Sep 13

Her: Yeah sure I'll text you but first why don't you let me know what you want to go do or when you want to go on a date? Then I'll text you (makes no sense)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Her: Actually get off in an hour and a half and don't have plans, do you want to smoke a joint and grab some food? (She seems eager and desperate here)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: I'm in Tulsa on business won't be back till after the weekend we can get together then. Texting is just way easier than messaging back and forth on this website
Sent Sep 14

Her: Oh okay now you're not going to be here until the weekend. Yeah I guess hit me up then
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Told you I was in Tulsa for the week remember? If you gimme a number I'll text you when I'm back in town we can grab food and chill
Sent Sep 14

Her: Since I'm not sure that you will even hit me up why don't I just give you my number when you're back in town? Just text me on here and I'll give you the number if you're still interested but I don't want to have people's number in my phone for a week and then you don't text (This logic makes no sense)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Aw you worried I'll flake on ya? Whichever makes you more comfortable I'll just hit you up on here then sure
Sent Sep 14

Her: Ya everyone's a flake.. Ok
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Hola xxxxx
Sent Tuesday

Her: Hey you
Sent from the OkCupid app Yesterday

Me: I'm back in town hmu to chill xxx xxx xxxx

On Text

Her: Hey whats up its xxxx :-) what are you up to tonight? Any plans?

Me: Hola chica unfortunately I am but id love to hang. I'm deff free Sunday night if your down

Her: Sunday evening or Sunday night?

Me: Uh both?

Her: Okay well let me know if you want to go to dinner or something

Me: That sounds rad I'd like that

Her: Okay so are you asking me to dinner then? Like a date? (wtf? this is where she starts going off the rails...)

Me: Lol should I wear a suit and tie? Well grab some grub together sure

Me: Maybe we could make dinner together thatd be fun

Her: You're saying it like I have to bring my own money and pay for myself lol is that the case?

Her: Make dinner? Really? You can[t] take me to dinner the first time we meet? LOL

Me: Lol let's just get drinks and we'll go from there

Her: No thanks

Her: I'm looking for a real man who knows how to ask me on a date and plan a time, not beat around the bush about who has to pay, then ask if we can make some dinner because it's cheaper, and then say let's get drinks first and see. I'm a classy girl not one of these Hoodrats u mess with (Of course you are)

Her: Good luck take care

Me: Adios (I should not have even texted this)

Her: Are you homeless? Do you not have a job? Why are you unable to take a woman to dinner if you're on a dating site!?

Me: Do me a favor and lose my number

Her: Why is your phone getting turned off? LOL no problem I just can't believe that there's so many of you losers on a dating site but you can[t] take a girl on a date. It's all the same shit

Her: Not only that but you've been in my inbox for like the last month or more(2 weeks) trying to talk to me all the time and finally when I gave you my phone number and try to make plans with you, you can't even ask me to a regular dinner, what you don't have 40 bucks? Get the fuck out of here cheap loser trying to get something for nothing not me

Her: Why don't you do all the women on this site a favor and delete your dating profile.

Me: No. Bye

Her: Yeah maybe you'll find some other stupid broke bitch that wants to hang out with you and doesn't realize that you can[t] take it[her] out properly. Maybe you'll get a molested girl where[or?] a girl with no self-esteem. That's your type.

Her: No wonder you're single, and broke. Why don't you get money before you start trying to hang out with people.

Her: BLOCKED (she didn't block me)

Me: (This is where I decided to experimenting with tell her whats up.) If you want the truth it's because your pics look slutty and you kept asking me to smoke weed and grab food. You seem more like an easy lay than some bitch who should be wined and dined. I'm a busy dude and not looking for a girlfriend right now. Just cool fun pepe to meet and spend time with and see what happens. Seems like you're not my type.

Me: And I happen to make a lot of money. None of which I'll be spending on your entitled misguided ass

(The rest of the conversation is all her)

Her: I don't have any slutty pictures (HA!) I'm a beautiful woman with amazing style and taste. I make great money and work for myself, I live by myself and I'm a hundred percent independent (I don't know how or why any of this is relevant but she obviously feels the need to talk herself up after I basically just told her she's a sleazy looking weed slut) I've been abstinent for about 9 months now(???), because I don't have sex with people who don't deserve it. So looks like you would have wasted both of our time if I wasn't smart enough to see through it. Thank God I am smart.(Uh huh...) Don't text this number(I already told her this 1000 words ago)

Her: (Yes she still texting because she feels real guilty about how much of a whore she looks like on her dating profile and I called her out on it) There is no "slutty" picture of me anywhere. You're just trying to make me feel bad because you're broke and not willing to spend money on women. The truth is you're looking for an easy lay where you don't have to spend money. That has nothing to do with me. I was just too smart and saw through it so kindly delete my number and I will be blocking you now. What a waste of a person.

---end---

I checked her profile today. She still didn't block me and she removed all her slutty pics, otherwise I would post them. She had one that was a pro shot of her in a tanktop and underwear sniffing a fat blunt. She also had one in a tight short tank and daisy dukes unzipped leaning up against a car. There were a couple other slutty/hippie pics with facepaint and shit. She removed all of them.

Lesson here is: identify difficult/crazy women early and don't ignore your psycho-meter in lieu of your dick. Also, it's never beneficial to you to tell a girl the real deal. Just let her talk herself out and don't respond. Any little response can feed more into it no matter how innocuous.

This free loading hoe wanted a meal ticket and that was the only thing she was having. I don't see how I could have salvaged this in my favor. She's hot, but she's also 32

EDIT: In hindsight maybe telling her the score was positive. After all it got her to remove her sleazy looking pics in an effort to look a little more wholesome. Meh

Good stuff. Especially when you decided to experiment with her and laid it down pulling no punches and nuked her hamster. Then she bends over backwards to justify herself.

My take is this chick has probably been repeatedly pumped and dumped from online dating and finally her shame and slut defense kicked in and she said to herself "damn it. I'm not going to let myself get pumped and dumped again. I'm going to control the next interaction and make sure the next guy doesn't treat me like a cheap slut. i.e. he's going to take me to a nice dinner before I put out!"

Another huge giveaway, which makes this behavior not at all surprising, is that she's 32. Once an attractive woman reaches this age, she knows the ways of men very well. She's slutted around since she was a teenager and experienced plenty of first date bangs with no call backs/ pump and dumps, etc. They're way more experienced. So, paradoxically, women around 32 to 33 and above demand "real dates" and courtship before they're going to put out. I say paradoxically, because they're not as hot at this age and have less to offer, but demand more, way more, upfront.

Relevant insightful piece on older gals: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2011/02/1...ad-enough/

I day gamed and dated an attractive 34 year old Latina girl earlier this year. Took her out to 4 dates (yes, I'm sad to say more than one dinner) and couldn't get past a kiss goodnight. Never called her back. My current plates are both younger than 30. One was a first date bang, the other a second date. I'm not missing the over 30 dating scene.

Was this girl American?

Post: #8631

Mentioning anything of substance rather than emotional fluff with tipsy club girls is a sure way to lose them. I need to be more drunk to be able to relate. Whiskey on the rocks first, THEN the vodka soda, next time.

Post: #8632

(09-24-2016 01:18 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Just had an online girl spiral out of control on me last night because I didn't want to buy her dinner. I'm talking walls of text accusing me of being poor/homeless, not being able to afford a dinner date, and an endless pile of delusions about how she thinks she is some classy and graceful lady that deserves to be wined and dined. I tried something that a lot of people, especially newbies, have talked about: calling a girl out. Spoiler alert: it did nothing.

*snip*

This free loading hoe wanted a meal ticket and that was the only thing she was having. I don't see how I could have salvaged this in my favor. She's hot, but she's also 32

EDIT: In hindsight maybe telling her the score was positive. After all it got her to remove her sleazy looking pics in an effort to look a little more wholesome. Meh

The 32 bit should have been a sign with the strange behavior. The two together can only mean weirdo chick.

Post: #8633

So it's going to come down to Friday.

I set a goal at the beginning of September to "Sleep with three new women this month." I didn't get any bangs in all of August, so I made up for it by setting another "reach" goal for myself at the beginning of September.

As September has almost gone, two bangs so far. One was the great yoga first date with the 20-year old recommend it, and the other a beautiful little 32-year old.

Many numbers this month going nowhere. Frustrating. I'm going after better looking women these days. Trying to communicate value in the approach while flirting, and not to mention the number of girls I'm approaching who have boyfriends.

I hate doing things at the last minute, but...September has four days left. I don't think I'm going to magically pull on a Wednesday or Thursday night.

On Friday September 30th, I have a 2nd date lined up with a sexy first year grad student, a 24-year old, a girl I approached when I hit up the University near where I live. Walked around campus and approached a bunch of girls direct, for two hours. Most approaches didn't last past the first minute or two. Of the few numbers I ended up getting, she's the only one I've since met up with.

A thousand things could come up. She could get busy, she could decide she doesn't want to meet, she could rain check, she could be down to hang out but not come back to my place, she could come over but not be down to bang.

On the flip side, it could all go right. I don't know. I'm an optimist.

Will re-post after Friday. Happy Hunting.

Post: #8634

General Stalin - I think you likely avoided a crazy, but I gotta point out that after she offered to smoke a blunt you messaged her about all your business trip stuff and basically came across as more of a provider so of course she treated you that way.

(09-27-2016 01:38 AM)Jagnum Wrote:  So it's going to come down to Friday.

Remember friday at midnight is technically October. Get to it.

Post: #8635

I've been getting consistently an average of 5 notches a month. A lot of my game though is night game. I'm normally working or chilling in the day. I do go out a lot though (3-4x every two weeks).

Post: #8636

@NewDay

Time to level up.

WIA

Post: #8637

Took a break from the forum and was catching up on shit.

Wild extended weekend:

2 weeks ago I flew out of state and partied with friends in a college city, 2 of our friends birthdays.

We did the cabana, and tables at night - doing blow and drinking - I sound retarded approaching girls. Even a cute latina approached us dudes and asked if we're hispanic - you could tell she was a bottle rat. Next.

Wore a Trump related tank top to the day pool party and cabana - lot of people laughed and dug it, didn't get hated on - it's telling.

Our boy who lives in that town flaked Day 1, went ghost on all of us, really pissed our group off, I kinda knew the deal, he moved some chick and her to this city and basically fell off the earth. He showed up Day 2 for a few hours, had some shots, did a bump or 2, then bounced.

He texted us later that week and apologized, he's got alot of anxiety and a controlling girl, I basically told him I love him as a bro and he needs to handle his shit, but take care of himself first.

Anyways me and one of my buddies were last men standing - we went to a black club - I knew walking in that black girls dig me - I just didn't realize how aggressive they were lol. Shit was fun, had a drink and bounced.

Pretty much got wasted, did a tad bit of shitty blow, bonded with good friends, checked out this bad ass gold driving range, somehow snuck into a residence penthouse (that was empty) at our hotel.

I'm not a fan of strip clubs but our friends wanted to really go, so I said fuck it. Apparently I also nuked some stripper at the club, standard approach and "hey" and I immediately cut her off and said I'm not drinking and I'm not here for her, I get the score and what she's gotta do (I actually was at the strip club earlier). Looked like a deer in the head lights.

She cut her shift short and talked to me for 45 minutes, for god knows what, my phone was dead, didn't bother closing, and I could've. There was a stripper taxi driver that we got and my phone died, so I started texting her from my budddies - turns out.....it's connected to his GF(baby momma) basically married iPad.

She saw the entire conversation, basically she was asking to come over, told her to come to the penthouse we snuck into - she dropped the "outcall" line and I laughed. She called twice.

I pass out in my room on my bed, my boy passed out on his. Wakes me up in the morning telling me that my other bro's girls was PISSED - I end up explaining the story and it made sense to her and we joked that I broke up with her, drama avoided.

Last day I was like death but rallied and drank all the way to the airport, we almost got kicked off the plane, and they didn't serve us booze, we even stopped at babes bar afterwards.

Overall, it was fucking fun, I need to brush off the approach rush, I'm usually good drunk, but blown and drunk, not so much.

This week I spent a few 12 hour days to catch up at work, also skipped the gym. It helped alot but I got alot of other shit to do also.

Friends relationships:

Went on another bender Friday (see below) - tired Saturday - but had a bachelor party at a beach house - my boy doesn't seem so stoked about the marriage - I saw his fiance the night before - she was cool that night. But she's a hot head drinking.

I don't know what to make of it - oh well.

My other cocky buddy who gets girls got played - his girl is 21, fake titted, banging 8 body but butter faced fitness model.

My 2 friends ran into her on a date with another guy, (ironically said cocky buddy had just talked shit on our married friend in a funny ribbing).

Took some pictures, and sent it to our cocky buddy, he hamstered it away that he was getting bored anyways, the whole situation was hilarious because he locked her down in less than two weeks.

BUT posting on social media with hot girls will bring more hotgirls.

One of the friends who took pics ended up a hot mutual friend of ours (she's fucked 3 in our circle) catch is - he's married with a kid and feels a bit scummy for it. I just told him to be cool with her and don't do it again - he probably will - she also wants to hangout again.

Not my marriage, speaking of bitches.

Females:

I still have plates, haven't been on many dates, typical online flakes (just got one flaking right now actually). The trainer is really getting on my nerves, she likes me and doesn't want to lose me, but she gets pissed when I don't text back, claims I'm just fucking her, blah blah. Basically I put her in check and now she's apologizing.

The weird eye girl I banged also, we went raw this time, we both enjoyed it, but it's never happening again. Then she texts me some shit about seeing on tinder, I sarcastically say "because I totally care what I think about people seeing me on there" - she peddled back quick until I told her sarcasm.

I've been hanging out with the biker girl once or twice a week, we fuck every single time, and she does spend the night, I actually don't mind since we're on the same sleep and wake cycle, she's basically a mini LTR at this point, I'll explain why.

I actually enjoy being around her, we go out ever so often, but mostly chill at my pad, watch tv, and fuck. I even go out of my way to finger blast her to cum, before fucking her (shocking I know).

Friday we got out, I meet up with the 2 biggest jacked dudes I know, ones your stand meathead and cocky (and funny) as fuck. The other is a big teddy bear marine turned Mercenary. Both thought biker girl was hot, that I did good (they even called me drunk the next day asking how I landed her).

We all bounced to another bar, had a former coworker now bartender (I'd say a 8.5) compliment my girl - I did a little dancing with biker girl and bartender brought us shots for free.

We bounce, go back to my home bar - see 3 girls I know, have biker girl take photos of us 3, social media post of course. Drink till 3am and bounce to my favorite late night diner.

I end up fucking her a bit in the girls bathroom - that's I think 5 or 6 different girls in that bathroom

We come home, tear each others clothes off, leave a trail up the stairs - we bang for awhile....I ended up blasting inside her - she's not on BC.

I lay with her and we talk about why she's so giddy around me and she definitely dropped the "I really like you" and basically wants to see where it goes. Wake up, send her off, went to work, she took Plan B (she doesn't want kids anytime soon).


Onward:

Biker girl was over last night and I could tell she's still a bit shy and extremely bashful around me, especially with eye contact, it's very clear she likes me alot.

I dig that.

I'm treading carefully, letting her make the "what are we moves".

But honestly she's fucking fun, compliments my life, and keeps things simple.

I'm just gonna enjoy it for now.

I'm still pulling numbers, high rate of going dead or radio silence. Easy enough to get another wave of numbers.



I do find myself not giving more and more a fucking about meeting up with girls. The ROI just isn't worth it in most cases - I can tell just from texting if they're down or not. I find myself more focused on the gym (after a week off I still feel pretty strong).

More focused on work as well - positive vibes moving forward.

Post: #8638

(09-27-2016 08:59 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @NewDay

Time to level up.

WIA

Yea, I need to get back into the day game and trying to set up some travel as well. Theres level to this shit and I'm trying to get to the next one.

Post: #8639

(09-27-2016 06:37 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Took a break from the forum and was catching up on shit...

I'm still pulling numbers, high rate of going dead or radio silence.

Sounds like it was a fun weekend. With good people.

Are you still doing mostly online game...wondering where most of your numbers are coming from this year.

Post: #8640

(09-24-2016 01:18 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Just had an online girl spiral out of control on me last night because I didn't want to buy her dinner. I'm talking walls of text accusing me of being poor/homeless, not being able to afford a dinner date, and an endless pile of delusions about how she thinks she is some classy and graceful lady that deserves to be wined and dined. I tried something that a lot of people, especially newbies, have talked about: calling a girl out. Spoiler alert: it did nothing.

I should have guessed she was a bit of a weirdo ahead of time as we chatted back and forth on OKC for about two weeks while I was out of town talking about getting together and she refused to text me until I was back in town. Her rationale made absolutely no sense which was a red flag that she was probably a little psycho but she looked hot in her pics so I carried on. See transcript below:

On OKCupid:

Me: Whaaat you put on face masks before you go to bed too? What a coincidence!
Sent Sep 10

Her: Lol Hi Good morning.. aren't you in Oklahoma?
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Just for the week. Business trip. I guess this website knows where I am... creepy (OKC does not do this. I manually changed it on purpose)
Sent Sep 11

Her: How it changes it for you where you go? That's interesting
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Big brother is always watching haha
Sent Sep 11

Her: Well let me know when you're back, we can be spontaneous and smoke a joint and go grab food whenever :-) (In like Flinn. Easy slut status confirmed.)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Meh: shoot me a text. Way easier xxx xxx xxxx
Sent Sep 11

Her: K
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Her: What's Ur name?
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Menya zovut xxxxx
Sent Sep 11

Me: and you?
Sent Sep 11

Her: xxxxx xxxxx
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 11

Me: Well ms xxxx shoot me an el texto
Sent Sep 13

Her: Yeah sure I'll text you but first why don't you let me know what you want to go do or when you want to go on a date? Then I'll text you (makes no sense)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Her: Actually get off in an hour and a half and don't have plans, do you want to smoke a joint and grab some food? (She seems eager and desperate here)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: I'm in Tulsa on business won't be back till after the weekend we can get together then. Texting is just way easier than messaging back and forth on this website
Sent Sep 14

Her: Oh okay now you're not going to be here until the weekend. Yeah I guess hit me up then
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Told you I was in Tulsa for the week remember? If you gimme a number I'll text you when I'm back in town we can grab food and chill
Sent Sep 14

Her: Since I'm not sure that you will even hit me up why don't I just give you my number when you're back in town? Just text me on here and I'll give you the number if you're still interested but I don't want to have people's number in my phone for a week and then you don't text (This logic makes no sense)
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Aw you worried I'll flake on ya? Whichever makes you more comfortable I'll just hit you up on here then sure
Sent Sep 14

Her: Ya everyone's a flake.. Ok
Sent from the OkCupid app Sep 14

Me: Hola xxxxx
Sent Tuesday

Her: Hey you
Sent from the OkCupid app Yesterday

Me: I'm back in town hmu to chill xxx xxx xxxx

On Text

Her: Hey whats up its xxxx :-) what are you up to tonight? Any plans?

Me: Hola chica unfortunately I am but id love to hang. I'm deff free Sunday night if your down

Her: Sunday evening or Sunday night?

Me: Uh both?

Her: Okay well let me know if you want to go to dinner or something

Me: That sounds rad I'd like that

Her: Okay so are you asking me to dinner then? Like a date? (wtf? this is where she starts going off the rails...)

Me: Lol should I wear a suit and tie? Well grab some grub together sure

Me: Maybe we could make dinner together thatd be fun

Her: You're saying it like I have to bring my own money and pay for myself lol is that the case?

Her: Make dinner? Really? You can[t] take me to dinner the first time we meet? LOL

Me: Lol let's just get drinks and we'll go from there

Her: No thanks

Her: I'm looking for a real man who knows how to ask me on a date and plan a time, not beat around the bush about who has to pay, then ask if we can make some dinner because it's cheaper, and then say let's get drinks first and see. I'm a classy girl not one of these Hoodrats u mess with (Of course you are)

Her: Good luck take care

Me: Adios (I should not have even texted this)

Her: Are you homeless? Do you not have a job? Why are you unable to take a woman to dinner if you're on a dating site!?

Me: Do me a favor and lose my number

Her: Why is your phone getting turned off? LOL no problem I just can't believe that there's so many of you losers on a dating site but you can[t] take a girl on a date. It's all the same shit

Her: Not only that but you've been in my inbox for like the last month or more(2 weeks) trying to talk to me all the time and finally when I gave you my phone number and try to make plans with you, you can't even ask me to a regular dinner, what you don't have 40 bucks? Get the fuck out of here cheap loser trying to get something for nothing not me

Her: Why don't you do all the women on this site a favor and delete your dating profile.

Me: No. Bye

Her: Yeah maybe you'll find some other stupid broke bitch that wants to hang out with you and doesn't realize that you can[t] take it[her] out properly. Maybe you'll get a molested girl where[or?] a girl with no self-esteem. That's your type.

Her: No wonder you're single, and broke. Why don't you get money before you start trying to hang out with people.

Her: BLOCKED (she didn't block me)

Me: (This is where I decided to experimenting with tell her whats up.) If you want the truth it's because your pics look slutty and you kept asking me to smoke weed and grab food. You seem more like an easy lay than some bitch who should be wined and dined. I'm a busy dude and not looking for a girlfriend right now. Just cool fun pepe to meet and spend time with and see what happens. Seems like you're not my type.

Me: And I happen to make a lot of money. None of which I'll be spending on your entitled misguided ass

(The rest of the conversation is all her)

Her: I don't have any slutty pictures (HA!) I'm a beautiful woman with amazing style and taste. I make great money and work for myself, I live by myself and I'm a hundred percent independent (I don't know how or why any of this is relevant but she obviously feels the need to talk herself up after I basically just told her she's a sleazy looking weed slut) I've been abstinent for about 9 months now(???), because I don't have sex with people who don't deserve it. So looks like you would have wasted both of our time if I wasn't smart enough to see through it. Thank God I am smart.(Uh huh...) Don't text this number(I already told her this 1000 words ago)

Her: (Yes she still texting because she feels real guilty about how much of a whore she looks like on her dating profile and I called her out on it) There is no "slutty" picture of me anywhere. You're just trying to make me feel bad because you're broke and not willing to spend money on women. The truth is you're looking for an easy lay where you don't have to spend money. That has nothing to do with me. I was just too smart and saw through it so kindly delete my number and I will be blocking you now. What a waste of a person.

---end---

I checked her profile today. She still didn't block me and she removed all her slutty pics, otherwise I would post them. She had one that was a pro shot of her in a tanktop and underwear sniffing a fat blunt. She also had one in a tight short tank and daisy dukes unzipped leaning up against a car. There were a couple other slutty/hippie pics with facepaint and shit. She removed all of them.

Lesson here is: identify difficult/crazy women early and don't ignore your psycho-meter in lieu of your dick. Also, it's never beneficial to you to tell a girl the real deal. Just let her talk herself out and don't respond. Any little response can feed more into it no matter how innocuous.

This free loading hoe wanted a meal ticket and that was the only thing she was having. I don't see how I could have salvaged this in my favor. She's hot, but she's also 32

EDIT: In hindsight maybe telling her the score was positive. After all it got her to remove her sleazy looking pics in an effort to look a little more wholesome. Meh

About the most funny thing I've read this morning. Too bad you dont troll her a little bit. I wouldnt even bother going this far if it was not for my own amusement.

She needed to be taught a lesson. I would have taken her to the fanciest restaurant, then pull the plug on her mid way and leave her ass hanging with the bill. Since she is so rich and independent that shouldnt be a problem right?

Oh, and her profile link please

Post: #8641

If she was independent then she could buy her own dinner.....

To be completely honest with you I think she likes you. Or she wouldn't keep messaging you. I had a girl last week keep asking me to buy her a drink at the club. I told her I need to know her a little better before I spent money on her. She started going crazy but she was still down for the team.

I'm probably one of the most cheapest guys here so I definitely understand not spending dinner on a chick you don't know. I have no problem being called cheap by women because I know I'll never go broke.

Post: #8642

Back in the day, this game thing was about putting the eventual sexual relationship on fast forward. Any guy could get a date, but it'll be three months of data before you could get a blow job.

That's exaggerated, but the price of sex was higher for most guys. But most guys knew the score. You didn't come to the game never having had a date, or not played spin the bottle.

What was assumed, what was unspoken was,
1) basic socialization
2) basic dating
3) basic understanding of women

Nowadays, I've stopped assuming that.

Is it my experience, participating on forums that attract the outliers?

Was my prior understanding flawed, I.e. This is how its always been?

Or has the overall culture stopped being able to socialize the majority with the basics?

WIA

Post: #8643

Putting the sexual relationship on fast forward sounds right, and I know for me personally a big part of that is being more direct with my intentions. And a huge part of that is really figuring out for myself what it is that I want. I used to be happy getting the attention of a woman, yes I wanted to have sex with her but didn't want to scare her off by showing it. More and more often now when I meet a woman I'm no longer thinking "does she like me" instead I'm thinking "do I like her?" I share this to point out that, if I'm understanding your question correctly, I do think overall (at least American) culture isn't able to socialize as well and a lot of guys need help figuring this out. I don't know that I'd call forum members outliers necessarily but definitely a concentration of guys brought together with a generally similar interest.

Post: #8644

@Runs with Scissors

That's the normal progression.

WIA

Post: #8645

Checked into a hotel yesterday, a couple trashy but bangable chicks covered in tattoos came up right behind us. Made some banter, they were from the area (unclear if current residents) and checking into the hotel for whatever reason. Went out to a bar for dinner and got mostly cold responses from women (was probably overdressed which can be as bad as underdressed in my opinion), although did meet another small business owner who was voting for Trump, abeit reluctantly. Back to the hotel passing the two trashy chicks in a corridor stopped and asked "So where do the locals go out around here?"
They kept going and tossed out a couple bar names in a disinterested tone.
Get back to the hotel room and tell the guys "Jesus, even the tatted up sluts from the lobby weren't into me."
"Yeah they're into each other. We were checking out the pool and they were in it playing tonsil hockey"
Not sure if I feel better about them not liking me because they're lesbians, or worse for not trying harder and missing out on a potential threesome.

Post: #8646

Got two questions for you gents.

1) I have recently acquired a fuckbuddy and I've been gaming her according to BlurredSevens' Modern Harem How-to Thread. I've been keeping about a week or so in-between our meetings. Our next meeting should be a date (I was going to cook dinner with her) according to the schedule, but I'm questioning whether I should do that and instead do another booty call.

She threw the "what are we?" at me pretty quick, but I just ignored and deflected the question until she decided herself we were fuckbuddies and told me she was happy with our "arrangement".

The reason I am questioning whether I should do a date or not is that recently she's been saying things that have made me suspicious. She'll text me just to talk to me. Tell me that's she's only fucking me (several times). In short, I think she's starting to like me. I am not interested in a relationship in college.

So the question is, how can I reinforce to her that we are fuckbuddies? Should I go along with a date or booty call?


2) This is less of a question, but more of a collection thoughts on my direction in game that I would like to get your input on.

So far, I have only been trying night game in college, but I would like to expand. I think I should move into social circle, class, and online game as well.

The problem is that I never lived in the dorms, so I never got a chance to develop my social circle and after freshman year, people settle in. I haven't figured out how to break into new social circles yet.

Most of my classes are small, so I don't wanna game girls there that I have to see for the entire semester. Maybe I take "don't shit where you eat" too seriously.

As for online game, because I'm in a college town, it should still be pretty lucrative, but unfortunately I do not have any good pictures of myself, and I don't know where to take any.

When I talk to girls, apparently I give out a strong player vibe even though I'm far from it. I don't really know what it could be. The only thing that I can think of is that I am extremely confident and apparently attractive. Should I be concerned about this and start working on toning my vibe down?
Also, I've heard I can be too creepy or "too much". I was pretty drunk at the time though because I consider talking to people 1-on-1 one of my strengths. I am hoping this issue should be resolved if I stop drinking so much in a single night.

I dress well for a college campus, and I am not bad-looking, so I get plenty IOIs from girls, I just have a problem of knowing when to close/escalate/isolate. Something I need to figure out and learn for myself. Unfortunately I haven't met anyone that I can game with and learn from.

Any thoughts, advice, or comments on the above would be appreciated

Post: #8647

1) how did you pull the FB? that sets the scene for relationship.

But if you dress well, attractive, etc - exactly what would make her *not* want a relationship with you?

2) college game

Join organizations. So easy.

3) online game pics

There is a thread on this, it's not always about abs, foreign locales and exotic cats

WIA

Post: #8648

1) SNL from a party, but what you say is true. I just want to make sure I keep the framing the relationship as FB.

2) I'll look for some more social organizations, perhaps a dance club would be a good place to start.

3) I just messaged one of my art major photographer friends and arranged to get some good pictures taken soon.

Thanks WIA, I just needed that little push to get off my ass and get things done.

Post: #8649

(09-28-2016 07:39 PM)angryrussian Wrote:  1) SNL from a party, but what you say is true. I just want to make sure I keep the framing the relationship as FB.

2) I'll look for some more social organizations, perhaps a dance club would be a good place to start.

3) I just messaged one of my art major photographer friends and arranged to get some good pictures taken soon.

Thanks WIA, I just needed that little push to get off my ass and get things done.

1) college girl, SNL bang...chances are low that she has a ton of notches. So she is probably not sure how to navigate a purely sexual relationship.

"Our next meeting should be a date (I was going to cook dinner with her) "

^Boyfriend treatment


"She threw the "what are we?"

^"Am I your girlfriend?" Is her question.

She'll text me just to talk to me.
^Girlfriend behavior

Tell me that's she's only fucking me (several times).
^Trying to defend her ego. She clearly wants more. And if she's young, she's probably brainwashed as to how things are supposed to go.

"I fuck him, and then he becomes my slave...I mean boyfriend" THOSE ARE THE RULES!!!..RIGHT?

In short, I think she's starting to like me.
^You're probably right.

You still haven't told us much about the bang - but chances are if you're a "catch", and you suggested "dinner @ your place" date - she's getting boyfriend signals from your behavior.

And if you play it hard - she's still going to fuck you in an effort to change your mind.
But eventually she's going to get frustrated.

You're not really dealing with
- Her feelings. her feelings for you (which are stupid, you're both young, you're not the one for her)

- Your own feelings - You don't even realize that by planning a date, making dinner, you're not totally on board with this chick just being something to entertain your dick with. You're unconsciously giving her boyfriend treatment - even though you only want a chick you can poke.

With further info, we could go give you better advice - but off top

1) You need to keep your own ideas, thoughts, behavior, mindset in congruence with your action. If you were planning a date, you weren't planning to be out getting new tail.

So decide on what you want, and act accordingly.

2) To reinforce "The I'm not boyfriend material"

You can't

a) Beta down - she'll like that (for the first 3-18 months - domestic bliss, new relationship energy as the kids call it)

b) Alpha up - She'll really like this. This will make her chase harder and invest more.

What she actually needs is a boyfriend, and you just be her backdoor man.

If you can't handle her getting her emotional needs and some dick when you're not fucking her - she's going to persist with trying to turn you into a boyfriend and getting mad and frustrated (or worse, you'll cave).

A lot of young girls will fuck a dude because what they really want is his time, attention, and affection. Fucking the guy is the only way the know how to get it. And for a guy that's top shelf, that's the price of admission. Whereas a regular dude, that'd be more than enough.

Furthermore - what's the male equivalent of skrillex hair cuts, tattoos, feminism, et cetera - What makes a guy look like a manwhore, but not a possible husband?

This is harder to pull off as a guy, because when a chick starts to take a liking to us - she accepts us warts and all at first, and then starts the slow beta-ization. I remember when my college GF talked me about of cutting the springs on the Civic. *shudders*

The best thing I've seen in terms of keeping a girl in sex kitten mode is ramping up the sex. It's not just P into V, it's exploring fantasies.

*for those keeping score - This kind of goes against the overall game - in that great sex for a girl is often sex with a great man - not great sex with a man. - which is borrowed/stolen from Scorpion*

She has no problem sucking strange dick in Cabo during Spring Break. Never see that guy again, it doesn't count.

Not to get too dark side/red pill - but a lot of these chicks going to hotel rooms with 2 NBA players really want to fuck two guys, it's a fantasy for them. (and sometimes they're scammers)

But usually these NBA guys don't know how to handle the chicks mentally. She wants to be a slut, but only if no one finds out. If they do find out, shame hits. Shame hits, they lash out. Now she's been raped.

So you might want to get her to do some shit she wants to do - but she would feel ashamed to do. Like you can date a known slut, but she won't take it in the ass for the man she loves. Only the guy she's fucking. The guy she's fucking won't get any of her affection and tenderness though. Goes back to framing.

You'll have to use your noodle to think of ways to make her feel like it's Spring Break when she's with you, and then turn back into the future wife of some Christian Republican when she's not.

Love to hear the other vets on this

WIA

Post: #8650

WIA—post of the day.



If I recall the BlurredSevens' model it's about —

keeping her close, but not too close. Spreading out the amount of time between meets.

If she wants to text you in between meets, let her and respond, but don't invest too much in the text conversation. Then hit her up one day out of the blue and tell her it's a great day for drinks and tell her to come over. He's got posts on this too.

As for fantasies - that's a good idea. Besides, you'll be much further ahead of your college friends doing some crazy shit with her.

I'm all for playing into her fantasies. It's not uncommon for me to ask this to a girl while we're both in bed, usually after sex. It's about uncovering her fantasies.

"So what are sexual fantasies you have that you've never acted out?"

(She might tell you, or she might punt and say, "i'm not really sure." - and in that case you lightly offer up suggestions).

"You know...some girls like to be dominated, others like role play."

(She might tell you role play, and then you can ask her what kind. Or she might reply, "I like to be dominated." and then you might say)

"Let me guess...some choking right?"

(She'll say no not that, or she'll smile mischievously and then you can ask)

"So a little or a lot?"

That's it, you've gotten her to tell you her fantasy. Next time you meet up you'll go out and make it happen.

As WIA says, she's young, you're young, but you can blow her mind that way.

And if she asks about yours, you can say:

"What gets me off is doing whatever is going to get the girl most freaking out. For me, you enjoying it is going to make me enjoy it most. That's the truth."

As far as making dinner with her, I'm going to disagree.

I think that's perfectly suitable to do with a FB.

Choose a simple recipe. There's coconut curry chicken or something that's a staple for a cook-to-bang strategy. Basically something easy, something with a 30 - 45 minute in the oven cook time, and something that will turn out tasty.

When it's cooking, guess where you're going to be...your bedroom.

Taking her out to dinner is much more boyfriend. Cooking dinner with her is like inviting her directly over for drinks, except you now have a few meals in Tupperware instead of a hangover.