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I use Trojan Magnums when I must. I bought a box well over a year ago and still have a bunch left.

Thanks for the recommendation; I'll try the Crowns.

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(11-17-2015 10:24 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I don't know how you "condom always" guys do it. I used a condom the other night with my newest girl because she's on antibiotics for an ear infection and didn't want to risk a yeast infection. Hated it. Felt like a plastic bag on my dick. Went semi soft a couple of times and couldn't cum.

If it ain't raw, it ain't real.

I last for hours if I have a rubber on. No fun in that.

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(11-17-2015 10:24 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I don't know how you "condom always" guys do it. I used a condom the other night with my newest girl because she's on antibiotics for an ear infection and didn't want to risk a yeast infection. Hated it. Felt like a plastic bag on my dick. Went semi soft a couple of times and couldn't cum.

If it ain't raw, it ain't real.

I'm right there with you man but after catching chlamydia for the third time in two years I've rethought my opinion on raw dogging. Yeah chlamydia is a relatively easy cure but it made me start to question why I'm choosing to put my health in the hands of some Tinder slut.

A couple things to try out that have worked for me:

1. Cut out fapping as much as possible. In the past when I would beat it frequently it would be damn near impossible to cum and even stay hard with a condom on. Now if I haven't touched it in days or weeks blasting off inside the rubber is never an issue and it works in my favor by letting me last longer than a minute or two. Banana

2. Try out the "Skyn" line of condoms from Lifestyles. They're non latex so there's no issue with allergies or smell. These by far have felt the most natural for me.

One other thing I've noticed is that if I wear a condom on a first time bang the girl's hamster seems to not fly into hyperdrive. Most of the morning after regrets that women have given me were along the lines of "OMG we didn't use any protection last night, you don't have anything do you??" On the other hand when I've wrapped it up there's a lot less drama post bang.

One of the times where wrapping it up literally saved my ass was when I hooked up with a 21yo Asian girl a year ago. With the younger ones I always wrapped it up since they're statistically more fertile and the chance of an accident is much higher. With this one she texted me a few days later saying she went to the Dr. thinking she had a urinary infection but ended up testing positive for herpes. She texted me freaking out saying to go get tested immediately. I've done enough reading on herpes to know that if she had infected me it wouldn't show up in a test until several weeks later. She later contacted me and said that she discovered it was the guy before me who had infected her. I decided to wait it out and see if I developed any symptoms and thankfully nothing materialized. But thank god for the condom!
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Got the "you can't hook up with other girls besides me or we're done" ultimatum from one of my plates last night. Literally came out of nowhere, got the crying, the "I have feelings for you," whole nine yards. A year or two ago I would've caved on the spot and said okay fine, especially since I actually enjoy hanging out with this chick and she's cute. But even still I'm not sure what to do here. I hate when things are going great for a few months and then they fuck it up.
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(11-19-2015 11:10 AM)Thatdude Wrote:  Got the "you can't hook up with other girls besides me or we're done" ultimatum from one of my plates last night. Literally came out of nowhere, got the crying, the "I have feelings for you," whole nine yards. A year or two ago I would've caved on the spot and said okay fine, especially since I actually enjoy hanging out with this chick and she's cute. But even still I'm not sure what to do here. I hate when things are going great for a few months and then they fuck it up.

Who gives a shit what she thinks do what you want.

If you think she's rad, cool, chill with her for a bit in a mini LTR and see how things go. ONLY if you want to.

The good news is, she brought the "what are we" conversation to the table, so guess who has the power ? YOU.

Things ARE going great, to the point where she wants to lock you down. After all it's the holidays Laugh

Like I said, sure if you want to, try out the mini LTR. BUT do it the right way, tell her sure, but we'll take it day by day.

If you like her but still want to bang other girls:

See her and see other girls, just make sure you lock down your game and phone for this.

It's been almost 2 years with my LTR and I constantly fuck on the side and have plates.

I do enjoy being around my main LTR and do save my "love" for her.

For now I can't just be having sex with one woman, and it helps my LTR relationship, since I'm not needy, nor putting pussy on the pedestal.

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@OTSC That incident would throw me off. Good thing you didn't go raw. Thing is, these things are never really discussed till after the fact. That's likely due to ruining the mood/momentum towards the sexual interaction.
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(11-17-2015 10:24 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I don't know how you "condom always" guys do it. I used a condom the other night with my newest girl because she's on antibiotics for an ear infection and didn't want to risk a yeast infection. Hated it. Felt like a plastic bag on my dick. Went semi soft a couple of times and couldn't cum.

If it ain't raw, it ain't real.

Crown is the way to go.

Plates come and go but herpes is forever. 18 years of child support only feels like forever.
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Date with a cute college student/bartender ( I know ) last night. She shared a crazy story about herself - a recent threesome she had, with a girl friend overseas and a married guy (her girlfriend was the guy's mistress). She told me in a really hushed, almost ashamed tone as if she wasn't sure she liked it.

She then asked me what's the craziest thing I'd ever done. I've done some crazy things in life, but didn't answer her directly.

I could have told her about banging multiple girls in one day, or all the one night stands I've had or other insane stuff I did with friends in college, but it didn't seem right answering a first date/ girl this way. She seemed curious, but also kind of like a test.

I just indirectly answered it.

I've actually had this question come up several times before.

How would you answer a girl you just started dating 'so what's the craziest thing you've ever done?'

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(11-21-2015 01:47 PM)robreke Wrote:  Date with a cute college student

Wow! You are my idol!!

You consistently pull young, college girls more than anyone else on the forum.

I believe you said you are mid to late 40s? And, you live in a small town?

Fuck! I would like to talk to you and learn from you!

Do you approach on college campuses?

Where do you meet these girls?

Thanks!
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(11-21-2015 01:47 PM)robreke Wrote:  Date with a cute college student/bartender ( I know ) last night. She shared a crazy story about herself - a recent threesome she had, with a girl friend overseas and a married guy (her girlfriend was the guy's mistress). She told me in a really hushed, almost ashamed tone as if she wasn't sure she liked it.

She then asked me what's the craziest thing I'd ever done. I've done some crazy things in life, but didn't answer her directly.

I could have told her about banging multiple girls in one day, or all the one night stands I've had or other insane stuff I did with friends in college, but it didn't seem right answering a first date/ girl this way. She seemed curious, but also kind of like a test.

I just indirectly answered it.

I've actually had this question come up several times before.

How would you answer a girl you just started dating 'so what's the craziest thing you've ever done?'

A girl telling me that on the first date is a red flag/slut tell. Automatic disqualification from LTR category.

I'd respond with a sarcastic joke one upping on her, like a 100 girls in one day, killing someone, some other kinds of BS.

It's for sure a shit test, answer it jokingly/exaggerated and immediately move on.

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(11-21-2015 02:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 01:47 PM)robreke Wrote:  Date with a cute college student/bartender ( I know ) last night. She shared a crazy story about herself - a recent threesome she had, with a girl friend overseas and a married guy (her girlfriend was the guy's mistress). She told me in a really hushed, almost ashamed tone as if she wasn't sure she liked it.

She then asked me what's the craziest thing I'd ever done. I've done some crazy things in life, but didn't answer her directly.

I could have told her about banging multiple girls in one day, or all the one night stands I've had or other insane stuff I did with friends in college, but it didn't seem right answering a first date/ girl this way. She seemed curious, but also kind of like a test.

I just indirectly answered it.

I've actually had this question come up several times before.

How would you answer a girl you just started dating 'so what's the craziest thing you've ever done?'

A girl telling me that on the first date is a red flag/slut tell. Automatic disqualification from LTR category.

I'd respond with a sarcastic joke one upping on her, like a 100 girls in one day, killing someone, some other kinds of BS.

It's for sure a shit test, answer it jokingly/exaggerated and immediately move on.

^ Love it. Sometimes I have a tough time hitting the sarcastic/smartass button when it's called for.

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(11-21-2015 01:58 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 01:47 PM)robreke Wrote:  Date with a cute college student

Wow! You are my idol!!

You consistently pull young, college girls more than anyone else on the forum.

I believe you said you are mid to late 40s? And, you live in a small town?

Fuck! I would like to talk to you and learn from you!

Do you approach on college campuses?

Where do you meet these girls?

Thanks!

Gio, thanks for the compliment. That's something coming from you, though I deal with plenty of dry spells like anyone haha.

I do some day game and some college, but most of those numbers fizzle. I've had more luck with online and a bit of tinder.

I'll PM you.

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(11-18-2015 09:59 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  
(11-17-2015 10:24 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I don't know how you "condom always" guys do it. I used a condom the other night with my newest girl because she's on antibiotics for an ear infection and didn't want to risk a yeast infection. Hated it. Felt like a plastic bag on my dick. Went semi soft a couple of times and couldn't cum.

If it ain't raw, it ain't real.

I last for hours if I have a rubber on. No fun in that.

I never use condoms anymore. I hate em. I used to pull out and just fire the batch on their back or stomach but that ultimately is just me whacking off in my hand. I like jizzing in full surround, heat and moisture...Period

For the last few years I've always just pump until Im close and then pull out and put it in her mouth and blow. The vast majority of times I get full cooperation and compliance especially since I take my time and make sure to eat, finger and fuck them thoroughly first. Make em squirt and you can pretty much take a shit on em if you wanted to

The few times I've gotten resistance has been on a couple of first bangs when the girl turned her head away and refused to let me. I then proceed to fire it on her face or neck or whatever. In those cases I say "Wow everything was going great until you fucked it up." I get up and barely say shit thereafter...

If I never bang her again it doesn't matter. If we do it again she knows full well what's coming (pun intended)

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(11-21-2015 02:35 PM)robreke Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 02:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(11-21-2015 01:47 PM)robreke Wrote:  Date with a cute college student/bartender ( I know ) last night. She shared a crazy story about herself - a recent threesome she had, with a girl friend overseas and a married guy (her girlfriend was the guy's mistress). She told me in a really hushed, almost ashamed tone as if she wasn't sure she liked it.

She then asked me what's the craziest thing I'd ever done. I've done some crazy things in life, but didn't answer her directly.

I could have told her about banging multiple girls in one day, or all the one night stands I've had or other insane stuff I did with friends in college, but it didn't seem right answering a first date/ girl this way. She seemed curious, but also kind of like a test.

I just indirectly answered it.

I've actually had this question come up several times before.

How would you answer a girl you just started dating 'so what's the craziest thing you've ever done?'

A girl telling me that on the first date is a red flag/slut tell. Automatic disqualification from LTR category.

I'd respond with a sarcastic joke one upping on her, like a 100 girls in one day, killing someone, some other kinds of BS.

It's for sure a shit test, answer it jokingly/exaggerated and immediately move on.

^ Love it. Sometimes I have a tough time hitting the sarcastic/smartass button when it's called for.

Being a smart ass sarcastic asshole flows through me, it used to be clown game for a long time.

I feel like this part of me is....me. I love it, the women eat it up, it comes out naturally in all my conversations.

I don't take women seriously on the first date at all, I try to let them do all the talking.

You can tell when you're hitting it too much or not enough, observe what you say and reflect on it. Alcohol helps loosen you up for jokes.

I've found making a woman laugh and be comfortable is the number 1 thing in my book that gets me notches.

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(11-16-2015 11:48 PM)robreke Wrote:  Cute pics on her online profile - 19 year Brazilian Mullatto.

Were you in Brazil for this date? If not, which country and region?
What's your race if you don't mind sharing that?
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(11-21-2015 09:39 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 11:48 PM)robreke Wrote:  Cute pics on her online profile - 19 year Brazilian Mullatto.

Were you in Brazil for this date? If not, which country and region?
What's your race if you don't mind sharing that?

I live in southern USA. She is an American college student but family originally from Brazil.

White dude.

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Didn't want to start a thread on this and did a brief search but couldn't find nothing. I'm sure there are some things but I'm not using the right word combos.

I'm looking on how to proceed with girls that are fun to hang with, do some kissing/hand holding and have vibrant personalities and a feminine attitude but don't put out after two dates. They kind of make subtle hint that they're not considering it for the third date either ( though can't be sure ). You also know they aren't virgins.

They tell you they will have sex, but want to get "comfortable" with you first. Girls who are worth a bit of effort and you would love to bang. At the same time, you don't want to waste your resources and get taken for a ride.

Just invite over for dinner and a movie the next time ( a rather blunt message) or continue cheap dates?....or is it often a lost cause?

I've just been so used to either first date bangs, second date bangs or ghosts after the first date that this is a new situation to me I've run into a few times lately...

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My mojo was really working last week; I banged four girls in one week. Only one was a notch, but still....

First was a girl I had banged a few times and when she started putting on the pressure to be exclusive I said "nah." She went no contact for a month, then I got a text on a Monday "Come over and pleasure me." Which I did.

Couple of days later I heard from a married soccer mom I bang every few months when she's in the mood. We text semi-regularly, both friendly chat and sexting and pic exchange. This time it was sexting and finally she said she was grocery shopping and could she come by on the way home. Well, sure. Three minutes after knocking on the door she was on her knees with my cock down her throat. After a great BJ she left and texted "Thank you." No ma'am. Thank YOU.

Third was a girl half my age who lives in another city who I bang about once a month. She drove over for an evening of sex and BDSM fun.

Finally, a girl I finally banged two months after our first date. It was our sixth date. Can't remember the last time I've gone on that many dates without sex. Maybe a decade. Normally I give it two, maybe three dates if she's better quality and I'm out. But in this case it was a conjunction of her having class and being raised with Old World values, logistical and scheduling issues, and my deliberately slow playing her because I was impressed with her and had a bit of a crush on her and didn't want to fuck it up. By the fifth date she was the aggressor and I had denied her invitation to come in due to my schedule. Finally, I asked her to my house for some of my Cooking Game and invited her upstairs for an after dinner drink. After a couple of sips we started kissing, and then I pulled back and said, " We are GOING to fuck NOW". She grinned and her clothes went flying off. I pounded her extra hard for a long time, maybe partly as a little "revenge" for having to wait, but mostly because the long build up had brought my desire for her to a peak. I really wanted this girl more than I have a girl in years. Now she texts me almost daily about sex- can I show her different positions, can we try this or that. This type of girl is a real joy compared to the ragged out, cynical sluts one has to contend with these days.

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Sounds like they put you on the boyfriend track instead of the fuck immediately track. Some girls are like this a may fuck guys only once they become their "boyfriends". Most likely the type of girl that hops from one to another without ever staying single long.

Your idea of cooking dinner and a movie could work. That way you have it just you two in your spot alone.

If it doesn't work and get no bang but you still have fun with her does it really matter?

I don't think so.

Just make sure to have other plates spinning to bust those nuts for you.
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(11-22-2015 09:01 PM)robreke Wrote:  Didn't want to start a thread on this and did a brief search but couldn't find nothing. I'm sure there are some things but I'm not using the right word combos.

I'm looking on how to proceed with girls that are fun to hang with, do some kissing/hand holding and have vibrant personalities and a feminine attitude but don't put out after two dates. They kind of make subtle hint that they're not considering it for the third date either ( though can't be sure ). You also know they aren't virgins.

They tell you they will have sex, but want to get "comfortable" with you first. Girls who are worth a bit of effort and you would love to bang. At the same time, you don't want to waste your resources and get taken for a ride.

Just invite over for dinner and a movie the next time ( a rather blunt message) or continue cheap dates?....or is it often a lost cause?

I've just been so used to either first date bangs, second date bangs or ghosts after the first date that this is a new situation to me I've run into a few times lately...

You're right that this is more of a rarity in the US. In my experience it's also been either 2 dates to bang or usually nothing.

I feel like a lot of guys here get bothered by the girls like you mentioned above. However, as long as they're good company and not holding out on sex as some control tactic (yours doesn't sound like this), I don't see the issue. Keep meeting her 1x/week, minimize the time and money input. Focus your energy on other girls. Some never come around but a decent amount do. Is it worth it? Not always but if she's hot/feminine enough I don't see why you should prematurely drop her.

I'd schedule most of your dates at your apartment/house from here on out. I like getting some groceries, recently gnocci (still surprised a lot of girls haven't tried this) and a light salad, and tell her to bring a bottle of wine. I get her to help me make the salad, especially chopping up random vegetables. Throw on a movie, escalate part way through. Got a 3rd date bang like this last month.
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(11-19-2015 12:28 PM)kaotic Wrote:  
(11-19-2015 11:10 AM)Thatdude Wrote:  Got the "you can't hook up with other girls besides me or we're done" ultimatum from one of my plates last night. Literally came out of nowhere, got the crying, the "I have feelings for you," whole nine yards. A year or two ago I would've caved on the spot and said okay fine, especially since I actually enjoy hanging out with this chick and she's cute. But even still I'm not sure what to do here. I hate when things are going great for a few months and then they fuck it up.

Who gives a shit what she thinks do what you want.

If you think she's rad, cool, chill with her for a bit in a mini LTR and see how things go. ONLY if you want to.

The good news is, she brought the "what are we" conversation to the table, so guess who has the power ? YOU.

Things ARE going great, to the point where she wants to lock you down. After all it's the holidays Laugh

Like I said, sure if you want to, try out the mini LTR. BUT do it the right way, tell her sure, but we'll take it day by day.

If you like her but still want to bang other girls:

See her and see other girls, just make sure you lock down your game and phone for this.

It's been almost 2 years with my LTR and I constantly fuck on the side and have plates.

I do enjoy being around my main LTR and do save my "love" for her.

For now I can't just be having sex with one woman, and it helps my LTR relationship, since I'm not needy, nor putting pussy on the pedestal.

Real shit Kaotic. Thanks for the advice. I was with her this weekend and gave her the "let's try it out, take it day by day." Should be interesting to see how it plays out.
11-22-2015 09:53 PM
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RE: Player's Log / Lounge
(11-22-2015 09:01 PM)robreke Wrote:  Didn't want to start a thread on this and did a brief search but couldn't find nothing. I'm sure there are some things but I'm not using the right word combos.

I'm looking on how to proceed with girls that are fun to hang with, do some kissing/hand holding and have vibrant personalities and a feminine attitude but don't put out after two dates. They kind of make subtle hint that they're not considering it for the third date either ( though can't be sure ). You also know they aren't virgins.

They tell you they will have sex, but want to get "comfortable" with you first. Girls who are worth a bit of effort and you would love to bang. At the same time, you don't want to waste your resources and get taken for a ride.

Just invite over for dinner and a movie the next time ( a rather blunt message) or continue cheap dates?....or is it often a lost cause?

I've just been so used to either first date bangs, second date bangs or ghosts after the first date that this is a new situation to me I've run into a few times lately...

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Sounds like these type of girls are putting you into the resource/provider/boyfriend category.

Nip that in the butt, especially if you don't see them as LTR material.

Cook dinner with her, have a few drinks, watch a movie. It's intimate, fun, and can get the job done.

Make it a SNL situation - if she doesn't give it up, ghost on her, see how she responds.

Don't play her games and regain the frame.

NOTE: I never kiss or hold hands on dates - I keep them guessing. I'll only kiss them if I know I can't get the bang and I'm saying good night.

I won't even kiss them on the second date if we're out or any PDA, that's for girls I've banged already or mini LTR's.

(11-22-2015 09:53 PM)Thatdude Wrote:  Real shit Kaotic. Thanks for the advice. I was with her this weekend and gave her the "let's try it out, take it day by day." Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

Either way, expect the worst, let her hamster spin and let her qualify herself. That's the most important thing, if she wants to be your woman, make her earn it.

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11-23-2015 01:42 AM
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RE: Player's Log / Lounge
(11-22-2015 09:01 PM)robreke Wrote:  I'm looking on how to proceed with girls that are fun to hang with, do some kissing/hand holding and have vibrant personalities and a feminine attitude but don't put out after two dates. They kind of make subtle hint that they're not considering it for the third date either ( though can't be sure ). You also know they aren't virgins.

They tell you they will have sex, but want to get "comfortable" with you first. Girls who are worth a bit of effort and you would love to bang. At the same time, you don't want to waste your resources and get taken for a ride.

If you are having fun and are truly enjoying her personality and demeanor, who cares she doesnt "puts out"?

Just keep having fun with her. Youll have sex eventually. If all you care is getting laid, then yes, stop wasting time and resources and go out with the ones who are down to fuck.

No time spent with a woman you like is wasted. Its only wasted if you didnt enjoyed yourself with her around.

Take attention away from attention whores and all that is left is whores.

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11-23-2015 03:09 AM
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