(11-26-2018 03:07 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 02:29 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

(11-24-2018 03:56 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  Today I had a date with a girl I met at bar last weekend. She is definitely 10 and I never had something with girl like this. The date itself was good, we had a lot to talk about and I was surprised, because she´s probably different kind of girl than one would expect according to her looks. Date ended up with french kissing, which is good sign.

But very strange situation happened to me.
We were sitting at a cafe/restaurant, which is one of the better, but still something everybody can afford. At the table next to us there was sitting a woman 35-40 and by the looks she was rich. We were talking about that she changed her hair color 3 weeks ago and the woman joined to conversation and started to compliment her looks and told me to compliment her more.
Then 2 guys 35-40 joined to women and sat together.
We were about to leave and before we left, I went to toilet and when I came back, there was one of the guys standing at our table. He introduced himself to me and went back to his table. Honestly, he seemed to look good. I am tall and muscular, but he was really tall, so I was short next to him, he could be 10 years older then me, bald, had good muscles and generally he was very masculline. He was German and seemed to be rich (actually every German is rich when he comes to my country).
When we came out of the restaurant, I asked her and she told me he wanted her contact. But at this moment we are interupted by the man´s friend, the woman who complimented her before. She started to compliment again and that she deserves the best and someone who can take care of her and started to ask me, what do I do for living and if I am able to take care her well. I answered I don´t have need to tell her and ignored her.

This was very weird. And the worst part is that it doesn´t depend how I react, I was the one who lost and he was the one who won. I didn´t think about it during date, but I can´t get it out of my mind now. I could punch him, beat him, I could use strong word, I could do whatever and he would be always winner. I know that best solution was to remain cool and act like nothing happened, but that still doesn´t make me winner. I was thinking about coming back to the place and fucking him up in front of the bar. How dares he. But that still wouldn´t change anything in my favor, maximally get me into prison.
I didn´t ask her about it, because that would make me unsecure, but she said it was weird, it happens to her often and it made her uncomfortable. But women say something and think different.

I try to do my best, I try to improve everyday and then this guy comes. His SMV was definitely much higher and I can´t change anything about it at this moment of my life. It´s bringing me down so much.

As I think about this, such girl must be really trouble. Everybody is so thirsty about her and she can have every man she wants. I have feeling like even though I succeed and bang her next time, at the end, the moment will come, when I will feel that I am the one who lost the game.

youre sabotaging yourself and have noone but yourself to blame if this goes to shit.

First automatically deciding the guy is better than you. Well from the words of his lady friend he seems like the typical sponsor type man and the woman is either a current or past sponsorette of his who now keeps getting new girls to include in her circle of rich guy friends because once they get older that becomes their value to the group.

Secondly if he has local contacts and is with his circle and he already had an in when you talked to the woman, he will feel emboldened to make a move.

Im 5'8 and it tends to happen with me a lot. am i gonna take it as a measure of my manhood if a guy dares to make a move? Nope. Ive done the reverse at times as well and i know very well that sometimes the guy on the outside has an advantage at times because he can play the bad boy. But the only thing that matters is who she ends up with.

Sure at some point part of her vagina will tingle at these approaches but so what? I cant count the times where a girl is with a very rich handsome guy and you eye fuck her and she ends up smiling back and eyefucking back all night. Has nothing to do with SMV. the guy on the outside is a shiny new thing and can display boldness.

It will happen no matter who shes with. Keep your eye on the ball and stop ruminating over this. Laugh it off and dont even hate the guy.

My last stay in Belgrade i was with a taller chick in a bar and no less than 3 men tried to talk to her, even some american dude when we were leaving. Did i get bothered by it at some level? sure. But i laughed it off and the girl ended up in my bed.

You are right, I realize this things. Just the money and work has been big thing on my mind and I am maybe a little bit too sensitive when it comes to this topic.

Tomorrow I´m gonna hit her and will see. A lot of guys here are advocating for phone call rather than SMS, should I call her? My friend is organizing martial arts tournament on Saturday, so I offer her going with me. It could be good, I was fighting there last time, I know everybody including fighters, a lot of testosterone in the air...

But if she already has something on Saturday, how to suggest different meet up without looking needy? Last 7 months I spent with hanging with average girls and let them doing the moves, this one´s taking my attention a little bit too much and that´s bad.

I disagree, I had similar situation a month ago. I met this 9 Blonde German, In Tel Aviv, When i was with her in tel Aviv (We banged Almost non stop) Every guy hit on her, but I am used to it here since tel aviv and it is very feirce city(tourist girls hitted non stop, and local girls dont go out as guys, results - high competation among men) the moment you leave your girl even for toilet guys hit on her, But as soon as i come back and they see i am with her, they stay away, its something actually israel men respect. they will ask u are u togeder?, a month after i was in berlin for work where she lives and we met again, then weird thing happend , We were sitting togeder in a very soical bar, I actually have let 3 other guys sit with us, because i am social, and after talking to her for 2 hours there, i wanted some other Company, we had nice chat with them, all of us drunk, then i asked a q what is your weird sexual story ever and it was cool chat, they obviously saw she is with me as we were kissing, After i made them feel too comfortable i guess - While i nearly bearly noticed because i was taking to the other guys, the Italien dude asked her number - NEAR ME, then only AFTER he asked mine, according to her "her was nice and wanted to take our numbers and she is closer to him" but i told her you dont know man nature, you naive. So I told her, give him wrong number. Im 5ft9 for record, but i dont fear of anyone. I just gelt such a disrespectful at that moment, i felt like making a mess there, and telling him wtf ? its not my country and 3 dudes there in total, i was nice to them - and that is how u pay back ? it ended us leaving there but after i told them nicely goodbye, but i should not have.

after thinking about it, i think she should have also acted differently and obviously not give the number, The anyoing thing is that because of man - i cant trust any woman anymore, when i see a girl with another guy, im happy for him, i will never cockblock him, even though i can, or in times when a girl told me she is not happy with her BF, im not like that piece of shit, but i find that guys are so thirsty that will cockblock even their friends just to get laid, I dont know, i sometimes see guys as brothers too much and when i give respect i deserve and i will not do it to other man, its quite sad its like, especially in israel. where if they see blond girl, they will chase her, when i was working and she was going beach, a minimum 10 guys approached her, I saw this guys on beach sometimes, they go from one to another. when i go beach, I go have fun, and if pretty girl sits near me, i talk to her, but this PUA guys, just go from one to another and destroy girl Attitude too, miserable people. like really. I feel people take PUA too far, like much far.

When i was in berlin, in her home town, Guys hit on her too all the time, they wait for one moment i am not with her, i was in a club, a black dude that see we are togeder, i kiss her all the time. one moment i went to toilet, he hits on her, like WTF with guys this days, dont you see we are togeder ?
At this stage, i did not react, because we had big fight before and i knew i will not see her again. in club the black dude could not see somthing is wrong.

Yes, it was the feeling of total disrespect. I am not used to this situations, because I look like I can cause a problems
Different case is when the girl is your LTR and you know each other very well. Then it would be funny situation probably for both of us. My ex-fiance was also nice piece of girl and when we went to bar, I usually left her with her female friends to have fun dancing, while I stay with my friends at the bar or with the friends bouncers. Then I came back to her and I saw all the guys trying on them. And I just grab her and start to dance with her and whether the guys understand or magic dance move "elbow to belly" help them. Once some foreigner wanted to take a knife on me.
Diplomacy while letting the othe guy knowing that next step is violence (which I like and am good at). That´s the solution of my taste.
If black guy hit on my girlfriend, that would be trigger for righteous fury.


Yesterday I called a 10 from Saturday, had some casual talk and before I managed to ask her out, she offered me to join her to sauna today. Cool.

Is following girls on Instagram worth it?

(11-28-2018 09:46 AM)Maximummax Wrote:  Is following girls on Instagram worth it?

No, they view "followers" as part of their personal fan base. Unlike Wu-Tang they don't fuck "fans"

Come at her as an equal/superior or don't step to her at all

Thanks for the response
There are some girls I like to game who are in a different city as mine. And I live in Vegas, wondering whether I can use this opportunity to get some girls
What’s your thought on this.
May be good for a plate in future.

One of the things in Roosh's new book was too watch an episode of Seinfeld every day.. check out how triggered these millennials get watching it.. fucking nuts. I'd be able to tolerate that Morgon chick for all of about 20 seconds.

(11-28-2018 03:06 PM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  One of the things in Roosh's new book was too watch an episode of Seinfeld every day.. check out how triggered these millennials get watching it.. fucking nuts. I'd be able to tolerate that Morgon chick for all of about 20 seconds.

Some relevant quotes from video:

Jerry tries to play with a girl's toy collectibles without asking:

"I'd be offended too."

"No means no."


Jerry gets some medicine for girl and has to decide between medicine that makes her drowsy and medicine that doesn't. (To play with action figures, not to have sex.)

"Hilarious that people thought this was okay."

"That's legit not funny."


The funny thing is how inconsistent they are. Why does the Muslim girl find this one offensive but that one not? Or the Asian girl?

The feminist girl is predictably upset over everything.

Except for the episode where a woman makes fun of a guy's little dick. That one she thinks, "stands up to the test of time."

Thoughts on this situation:

Girl that I hit up while on a break with my girlfriend ~ 3 months ago.

Fucked her back in high school (4 years ago).

Single mom but fine. WB 7/10 with a NICE ass and pretty face with decent tits.

She was very down when I hit her up and sent me nudes asking me to fuck her... telling me she missed my dick... etc.

Had to block her on snapchat and instagram when I got back with my ex to avoid any discoveries that I was messing around with her.

Fast forward to last week - single now and hit her up on instagram while drunk (dumb but I have SMV a good bit higher than her) sent a simple "hey troublemaker" and didn't get a response.

Looked the next morning and saw she had a boyfriend claiming her at the time. Okay, understandable. She has told me in the past that she is serious about relationships & not cheating.

Lately she's been liking old posts of mine on instagram and I added her back on snapchat earlier today. No boyfriend to be found on instagram.

Guys, go for another shot to try to bang?

I included the fact that I have a significantly higher SMV than her because I think I didn't hurt myself that much with sending that stupid dm.

Previously she was very impressed with everything I was doing when we were talking last, and I almost got the sense that she was idealizing me since I am probably the highest SMV guy she's been with.

Of course worst thing that happens is she thinks I'm thirsty. Don't care too much what she thinks of me. Tactics? Thoughts?

I noticed banging a girl degraded for me on the same level as watching porn. Yesterday I had a girl coming to my place. I banged her in summer 2 or 3 times and then went radio silent. She asked me if she could sleep at me, because she has some friends/family sleeping in her room/apartment, so I agreed. As she was lying next to me, I proceed to bang her, because I didn´t jerk for few days, but even at the beginning I did with kind of disgust. The more intense it was after I finished. I tried to fall asleep fastly and forced myself to think, that I am laying in the bed alone. I have got this feeling for longer time and I am not able to bang girl more than 1-2 times and then I don´t want to see her again. These girls are bangable, but nothing special. I noticed, that this feeling became much stronger, as the winter came. During summer I was busy catching girls all days.
I really feel I need some high quality girl. I am not talking about relationship or other stupid ideas, but just to spend some time with beautiful and clever girl and bang her.
Recently I wrote about top-class girl I met and she invited me to join her to wellness. This could be the solution to my problem, but I haven´t banged her yet. In wellness, there wasn´t much space for sexualizing (I kind of underestimated the situation). As I drove her home and we were kissing, I asked her to invite me to her home. She said if I really want it, because it´s too late and we both get up early and we can postpone it for later, when we will have enough time for everything. I had starting headache from sauna dehydration, so I said she is right, didn´t push for anything and was happy to go sleep.
I must say I have some feeling inside of me, that I didn´t feel for months in connection with women (except ex). Like my subconscious mind is shouting I need these genes. I must figure out how to bang her. I am sure I will bang her next time we see each other, but I must figure how to proceed to this situation without being needy. She´s getting approached on all basis all day long and I think that I got so close because I lacked neediness (tried to). But it´s really hard to hide the thirst for her and go radio silent. First date was initiated by me, second date was suggested by her, but during the call I made (that was the sauna on Wednesday). I am thinking what would be the ideal time for contacting her again and if I even should, like make her do the turn. Not getting agresively for bang on Wednesday could be also an issue, as I know from history. Because that´s what girls subconsciosly want.

(11-28-2018 04:28 PM)The Golden God Wrote:  Thoughts on this situation:

Girl that I hit up while on a break with my girlfriend ~ 3 months ago.

Fucked her back in high school (4 years ago).

Single mom but fine. WB 7/10 with a NICE ass and pretty face with decent tits.

She was very down when I hit her up and sent me nudes asking me to fuck her... telling me she missed my dick... etc.

Had to block her on snapchat and instagram when I got back with my ex to avoid any discoveries that I was messing around with her.

Fast forward to last week - single now and hit her up on instagram while drunk (dumb but I have SMV a good bit higher than her) sent a simple "hey troublemaker" and didn't get a response.

Looked the next morning and saw she had a boyfriend claiming her at the time. Okay, understandable. She has told me in the past that she is serious about relationships & not cheating.

Lately she's been liking old posts of mine on instagram and I added her back on snapchat earlier today. No boyfriend to be found on instagram.

Guys, go for another shot to try to bang?

I included the fact that I have a significantly higher SMV than her because I think I didn't hurt myself that much with sending that stupid dm.

Previously she was very impressed with everything I was doing when we were talking last, and I almost got the sense that she was idealizing me since I am probably the highest SMV guy she's been with.

Of course worst thing that happens is she thinks I'm thirsty. Don't care too much what she thinks of me. Tactics? Thoughts?

Hit her up but make sure:
-You wait a bit
-It's NOT on Instagram (so it doesn't look like double text)
-Be cool

Winter sucks. Last days I spent quite a lot of time crusing the Christmas festivals. There´s not anything to approach! And I must underline I live in Eastern Europe. Today I couldn´t find any single girl worth approaching. They are hidden somewhere or they hide themself under the layers of cloth. And once some good shows up, she has a company.
I bought some nice clothes, nofap for two weeks and in the end there´s not even chance. I wanted to abandon night game, but where else am I supposed to meet girls now.

Roll call - what percent of your bangs are from internet dating?

We always preach that online game should be a supplement to your IRL game, but are you actually practicing it? I was curious to see how much I rely on internet game, and found that in my entire gaming career, 38% of my bangs are from Tinder.

(Ironically one was a girl who I met on Tinder, she curved me, then we ran into each other at a bar and banged)

What's also interesting is that my online game/IRL game ratio is going down, confirming that Tinder is not as good as it used to be.

For me online dating is less than 3% lifetime and about 5% this year.

I'd say 95% of my bangs come from Tinder and Happn. I'm 41 though, so not in the mood for going nightclubbing anymore.

I made out with a model at a bar last week, and I brag ironically because she looked very normal. Just a tall, skinny girl but we got to talking and she showed me pictures all over google and a few fashion magazines she had been in. There's several youtube videos of fashion houses interviewing her after she did runway shows in NYC and Milan.

I was surprised at how normal a model looks in person. No ass, no tits, but the angles of her face are very photogenic under camera light I guess. I didn't think she was even the hottest girl in that bar. There's a real, tangible gap between how your face looks on camera and how it looks in person, I guess modeling agencies understand this.
I gotta say I prefer a normal ho with a plump ass than some 5'11 androgynous freak that cosmo tells me is sexy haha.

I didn't want to flood the forum with useless threads, ut i have a question. Can somebody point me into the best direction of what to say or do after the opener.

Opening has ALWAYS been easy but I never knew what to say after. I recall vivid memories of guys walking up to a girl just to bore them out of their mind. Or guys interviewing girls. I really don't want to be that type of guy.

Is it a matter of "it doesn't matter what you say but how you say it."? Do you guys have a concrete set of questions ready to ask after the initial hello?

(12-12-2018 02:53 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  I didn't want to flood the forum with useless threads, ut i have a question. Can somebody point me into the best direction of what to say or do after the opener.

Opening has ALWAYS been easy but I never knew what to say after. I recall vivid memories of guys walking up to a girl just to bore them out of their mind. Or guys interviewing girls. I really don't want to be that type of guy.

Is it a matter of "it doesn't matter what you say but how you say it."? Do you guys have a concrete set of questions ready to ask after the initial hello?

Depends on your style and mood. Sometimes I'll go for cold read then tease game. Other times I'll do self-amusement game. When I feel like I'm in my head, I'll start my night with some warmup sets and start merging. It's really all about your energy more than your strategy. When you fully embrace your energy, the rest should come naturally.

When in doubt, think push/pull. But your mindset should always be offering value.

Another tip is, whatever the energy of the environment around the girl, have the opposite energy (as in low/high energy). i.e. if the environment is loud and crazy around her, be the cool calm guy and vice versa.

Met up for drinks Sunday night with a girl I met through social circle game earlier this month, however our schedules didn't line up until now. I was reminded why I wouldn't marry a career woman after a few minutes. She literally spoke about her miserable six figure job, her boss who she can't stand (but I wouldn't be surprised if he banged), and her lack of personal life for 15 minutes straight. After one drink, I diverted more of my attention to our bartender (early 20s 7) than the 30 yr old 7.5 in looks/4.5 in personality who was in front of me.

I was cleaning up my email inbox, and came along an email where I sent my main girl the whatsapp chat log we had since we met and up to the point she decided to stop using whatsapp almost a year ago (she switched to a different messaging app, for security reasons). At that moment, she requested me to send it so she could keep it.

Back in 2016, after we first had sex, we were in full NRE (New Relationship Energy) mode and were very affectionate with each other, almost like teenagers. This I could notice in the text exchanges between us. Phrases like "can't wait to see you" and "I wanna kiss you all night" were common back then. Nowadays we have mind-blowing sex, and are in general good friends, but the affection between us has become more "tempered", more "adult" if you may. Our relationship being open plays a part in that.

I was wondering, if revisiting this chat log with her next time we meet would be a good thing, or would it be counterproductive? I find happiness and pleasure in revisiting good memories, but perhaps it will also be a view at something that passed and will no longer be (the very passionate "first weeks" of a relationship).

Have you revisited old chats with a girl? How did it go?

Need some analysis on this: I travel for work so I've staying at this hotel since last September. Girl at the front desk(let's call her M for short) is cute but I resist gaming her for obvious reasons. We talk, flirt and whatever from then to about mid April. At this time the hotels ops manager leaves and she gets promoted to ops supervisor. The ops manager was a sweet old lady who use to give me Oreo thins whenever I saw her so after she left I asked M if she had any and M says no. I tell M I miss the old manager already.

The next week I arrive at the hotel M says I was at supermarket and I saw these Oreo thins and got them for you. Through some conversation with her and another employee I agree to get her some argan oil from Morocco since I said I was going there and was going to get some for my mother. I go, come back give her the oil and because of our work schedules, vacations and such we interact but nothing happens. Fast forward to September.

I ask her to this carnival that is in the area that I've never been to and she agrees but she ends up bringing another hotel employee (girl) and they bring another girl as well. The carnival is fine we talk etc, but I assumed she asked for the other friend because she wasn't interested. Anyway fast forward a bit and I actually tried asking her out again but the hotel was short staffed and it didn't work out. During this time M gets another hotel employee to inquire about the nature of my relationship with another female employee- we're just platonic friends for the record. Fast forward to this month, over the past two weeks she has actually come up to me and spoke, once in which we shared some Pho at the hotel lobby and a week ago when I asked her to take a personality test. She gave me her results and combed over mine, even said "You crave novelty and don't like stability interesting". We spoke for about an hour and during I asked her out and she said she didn't know her schedule but hold on. M went in the back and looked at it and then came back and told me the days she was available and we set a date.

Because I'm there all the time I got invited to the hotel Christmas party this past Sunday. She came with her mom and avoided sitting next to me and sat at an empty table instead. Eventually we speak and take shots and stuff until 3 am.

While I was drink I invited this couple along for the date- yes I know stupid idea. Anyway we go on the date to an escape room and eventually she warms up and as we start talking while waiting for the other couple at dinner. Couple comes conversation over until we drive back to the hotel. We have one if those deep abstract conversations we're we talk about how she's hard to read and how she doesn't like to be easy to read.

I send her a text saying I enjoyed and hope she did. She doesn't respond but works the next morning that I'm checking out. We speak and at one point she says I feel like there's something you want to say. I tell her that there was but I don't remember. We part ways and then 5 hrs later she replies that she had a good time and thanks!. I texted her today twice and she's constantly taking 1.5 hrs to respond. She responded to my how goes it text with a hey what's up.

I should also mention that she only speaks to me for the most part if I initiate- even if I'm talking about something that I know she is interested in she won't insert herself into it unless I do so. She remembers things we talk about and bring them up in later conversations and stuff so at this point the strange text replies and time make me think this is a L. Thoughts?

PS:She's 23 and got out of a relationship from high school back in May- August but via creeping on her IG all of the ex's pics are still up .

(12-22-2018 09:42 PM)SwaggerJack Wrote:  Need some analysis on this: I travel for work so I've staying at this hotel since last September. Girl at the front desk(let's call her M for short) is cute but I resist gaming her for obvious reasons. We talk, flirt and whatever from then to about mid April. At this time the hotels ops manager leaves and she gets promoted to ops supervisor. The ops manager was a sweet old lady who use to give me Oreo thins whenever I saw her so after she left I asked M if she had any and M says no. I tell M I miss the old manager already.

The next week I arrive at the hotel M says I was at supermarket and I saw these Oreo thins and got them for you. Through some conversation with her and another employee I agree to get her some argan oil from Morocco since I said I was going there and was going to get some for my mother. I go, come back give her the oil and because of our work schedules, vacations and such we interact but nothing happens. Fast forward to September.

I ask her to this carnival that is in the area that I've never been to and she agrees but she ends up bringing another hotel employee (girl) and they bring another girl as well. The carnival is fine we talk etc, but I assumed she asked for the other friend because she wasn't interested. Anyway fast forward a bit and I actually tried asking her out again but the hotel was short staffed and it didn't work out. During this time M gets another hotel employee to inquire about the nature of my relationship with another female employee- we're just platonic friends for the record. Fast forward to this month, over the past two weeks she has actually come up to me and spoke, once in which we shared some Pho at the hotel lobby and a week ago when I asked her to take a personality test. She gave me her results and combed over mine, even said "You crave novelty and don't like stability interesting". We spoke for about an hour and during I asked her out and she said she didn't know her schedule but hold on. M went in the back and looked at it and then came back and told me the days she was available and we set a date.

Because I'm there all the time I got invited to the hotel Christmas party this past Sunday. She came with her mom and avoided sitting next to me and sat at an empty table instead. Eventually we speak and take shots and stuff until 3 am.

While I was drink I invited this couple along for the date- yes I know stupid idea. Anyway we go on the date to an escape room and eventually she warms up and as we start talking while waiting for the other couple at dinner. Couple comes conversation over until we drive back to the hotel. We have one if those deep abstract conversations we're we talk about how she's hard to read and how she doesn't like to be easy to read.

I send her a text saying I enjoyed and hope she did. She doesn't respond but works the next morning that I'm checking out. We speak and at one point she says I feel like there's something you want to say. I tell her that there was but I don't remember. We part ways and then 5 hrs later she replies that she had a good time and thanks!. I texted her today twice and she's constantly taking 1.5 hrs to respond. She responded to my how goes it text with a hey what's up.

I should also mention that she only speaks to me for the most part if I initiate- even if I'm talking about something that I know she is interested in she won't insert herself into it unless I do so. She remembers things we talk about and bring them up in later conversations and stuff so at this point the strange text replies and time make me think this is a L. Thoughts?

PS:She's 23 and got out of a relationship from high school back in May- August but via creeping on her IG all of the ex's pics are still up .

So she got out of a 5-6 year relationship less than 8 months ago, and her ex's pics are still up (meaning either 1. he broke up with her or 2. they are still in contact).

Hooked up with a girl I had banged in late October last night, and the conversation post sex turned to NYE plans. I honestly don't have any concrete ones at the moment, however being caught off-gaurd, I didn't answer strongly. (I simply said I dunno what I am doing). She then asked if I wanted to hang out with her, as her parents are fairly well off and having a small get together at their home.

I really don't see her as LTR material, but not sure what to say that won't impact the on-going plate status. Any thoughts?

Yeah absolutely right about that- he moved to another state to pursue his dreams. I know it's not logical but when I asked her what her schedule was she could have curved me there or any other time before so it seems strange to start being funny over text. I mean we did talk about more about her during the drive back so maybe it was getting too close for comfort?

(12-23-2018 11:34 AM)SwaggerJack Wrote:  Yeah absolutely right about that- he moved to another state to pursue his dreams. I know it's not logical but when I asked her what her schedule was she could have curved me there or any other time before so it seems strange to start being funny over text. I mean we did talk about more about her during the drive back so maybe it was getting too close for comfort?

As Roosh once said: "If you can't close, you're just an entertainer".

I have been in a similar situation, and on one end you don't want to risk a woman raise a false rape accusation that could blemish your and your firm's reputations, while she can get fired if she gets it on with a customer. These things fucked up with your game, and in the end you didn't close. Furthermore, her being left by her seemingly alpha boyfriend (DGAF attitude, chasing his dreams), qualifies her as an alpha widow, with all of the associated problems. Chalk it to the game and move on.

For me, an infrequent FB that was introduced to me by a "friend" some months ago has taken two days without replying to my ping text. I gather it's family time and she might be feeling bad for not bringing a "BF" to her house, but I lay her well, so I expected a more prompt response. Anyway, had an incredible night at a love hotel with my main recently, that lifted me up. Remember the lesson: enjoy it while it lasts.

Cheers.

Thanks for the advice and agree on moving on. Obviously I'll still see her every week so I assume I should just act like how I normally did before this or should I just make it strictly staff/guest from here on out? Personally I'd say former since the latter reeks of hurt.