Post: #1076

(06-20-2015 06:09 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 08:53 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  I've fucked a few girls on this site. The women on it are absolutely vile, there's no other way to put it.

Even after banging some girls a couple of times I am genuinely paranoid of them looking to somehow take my cash and make a run for it, and that they are still nothing more than prostitutes they just having shown it yet.

I had a girl tonight who I fucked a couple of times already tell me on arrival that she's starving. I told her that I just ate, on our way out to a bar she bought food and yes she paid for it. Unfortunately I ended up paying for the dinner (~70 dollars) later as room service and she was not in the mood to fuck. I fingered her and she gave me a blow job but it's not the same. I really don't like spending money on these girls even after banging them as I don't like the feeling of them being there for the free food and drinks as much as my cock. Yes I would have booked her just for drinks later at my room with a 5 dollar bottle of wine (that's always the plan) but she wanted to meet during the day. Lesson learnt. I am not buying girls on this site drinks or food after sex ever again.

Quite frankly, you don't get it.

Eh, I think there is more than one way to play the game, so long as we are getting bangs, we are both winning. I tell them up front that I am not going to give them cash but let them experience my lifestyle(dinners, wine tasting, theater, opera) but will not pay them cash. A lot of the girls are actually cool with this, maybe 25%?

There are still some of the pitfalls from online dating, getting them to not flake on the first meeting is the biggest hurdle for me. Going on facetime first seems to help.

What most of the thread is about is shoring, (telling a hooker you will pay them later and then not paying them), that is a totally valid tactic for the whores that are just in it for the money, beat them at their own game. I will likely try that when I am older, but for now, I see no need.

Post: #1077

(06-21-2015 04:08 PM)germany Wrote:  few of the posters in this thread said that they often did pay the girls from SA money or different gifts like jewelries.

I really though that RVF is a forum without guys who pay for sex... and that bragging about paying for sex
is against this forum rules

Pretty sure those guys are banned?

Post: #1078

To make things perfectly clear PROSTITUTION - funds for favors including sex - is Illegal both buying and selling sex is yes ILLEGAL in most places around the world except Germany and a few isolated poontang ranches in Nevada - plenty of working pros in Vegas but it is still illegal there - with all the free tang in Vegas during the days at the pool parties and at night in the clubs and bars - why PAY any way - most of the girls who visit are already DTF because it is Vegas baby.

If anyone broaches the subject of P2P per visit in any way that is PROSTITUTION and one click and that slore is gone off of SA - Brandon Wade is hypersensitive to media saying he is running a bunch of funds for favors - hooker websites.

The protocol is meet up to see if any chemistry - I say I need to see how they behave in a number of social situations - from beach to ball room to road trips before I decide if there is chemistry - and my I3 move is to isolate (to my room) offer a cocktail (that I stop and buy supplies with them for when bouncing to my room typically a bottle of vodka, scotch, champagne and sodas and waters to put on ice in the room. I use priceline express deals a lot... better than Expedia or Hotels.com etc because if there is no convention in town I often get 3 stars in NH for $65.00 and 5 stars in Boston for $150.00 plus taxes and fees - then initiate - my initiate move is simple - I tell room service to make sure there are two plush robes in the room - Marriott's Boca Terry brand spa robes are plush as new turkish bath towels... I hand her the robe and say why don't you go freshen up - while she is in the shower I stash the condoms in easy reach spots and a small bottle of edible massage oil and hang up my clothes and am waiting naked in my robe with a scotch on the rocks when she comes out... turn on something sexy (Music Videos) on the boob tube and hand her the massage oil and tell her to massage me - about fifteen minutes later I flip over and say do the front (Hint HAND JOB) and then mention you know it is edible - BJ - then when I am ready 10 minutes or so - I hand her a condom and say put it on and get on top...

All sober consensual and legal - if she follows direction well then I watch a movie and if I get hungry order what I want for room service and order something for her (look at her and say "Hamburger rare or medium?") and that is about as much choice as she gets and HORRORS NO phucking minibar - $6 for a bottle of fuji crap imported water - I get Poland Springs large liter bottles at 7-11 for a $1. I tell them the hotel water and spirits are over priced crap and get what I want for the evening on the way. I also only book hotels that have a room fridge or bring one up for no extra cost - be a frugal phucking alpha both with the hotel staff and with the women - they are not there to be your friends - they are there to SERVE you - both hotel staff and the SA SBanglers.

If she takes direction well she gets to stay for a nice night in a nice hotel as my guest and an solid alpha phuck in the process - works two ways - if at any time they start in on arrangements or money I say look you read my profile it said I am seeking reliable wing women - that means to listen and follow my lead.

They have to sell me how they will provide me an ROI and then maybe just maybe we will talk long term.

Post: #1079

(01-17-2015 11:25 AM)Dantes Wrote:  I was on this site for about two months last year. The majority wanted money, so didn't continue with the site and I focused on traditional gaming.

Fast forward to last month, I signed up for SA again. I was in contact with a lot of attractive girls. Most of the girls made it very clear they wanted money. I found it hard to find girls who were not looking for a straight up cash transaction in some way. This is in NYC by the way.

In my experience most of these girls directly ask for money or an allowance even before meeting in person.

Because SeekingArragement is a website straight for what it says it is:

"Sugar babies" to get money by being company for older, richer men.

Sure, a lot of members who posted here are doing "shoring" - but hacking the SA system, still this doesn´t change what SA is designed for
and what the "sugar babies" are doing on SA everyday.

Even on their official website, SA officially advises the "sugar babies" to negotiate
a monthly money payment from their "sugar daddies":

http://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/b...allowance/

Post: #1080

(06-22-2015 06:43 AM)germany Wrote:  Because SeekingArragement is a website straight for what it says it is:

"Sugar babies" to get money by being company for older, richer men.

Could you please make a point once and for all?

Post: #1081

germany is looking out for our immortal souls. Making sure we do not associate with any women of ill repute.

Post: #1082

(06-21-2015 06:16 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  To make things perfectly clear PROSTITUTION - funds for favors including sex - is Illegal both buying and selling sex is yes ILLEGAL in most places around the world except Germany and a few isolated poontang ranches in Nevada

Wikipedia says completely otherwise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Europe

According to the charts per country,
in almost every country of European Union, prostitution is LEGAL,

and even regulated in eight European Union countries:

In eight European countries (The Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Greece, Turkey, Hungary, and Latvia) prostitution is legal and regulated.

Spreading false informations about this is not helping anyone.

Post: #1083

Do you have anything to actually contribute to this thread?

Post: #1084

(06-22-2015 11:23 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Do you have anything to actually contribute to this thread?

Moral outrage!

   

Post: #1085

Germany, as long as we don't pay to play I see no harm done. I'd rather pay for a 200$ room than a 100$ prostitute; it's different:

Post: #1086

Here is an idea... anyone who is a blatant ageist and ojects to the idea of legal consensual relations between mature men and younger women all over the age of consent not shite all over this topic... otherwise it is ban hammer time.

Post: #1087

(06-22-2015 11:19 AM)germany Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 06:16 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  To make things perfectly clear PROSTITUTION - funds for favors including sex - is Illegal both buying and selling sex is yes ILLEGAL in most places around the world except Germany and a few isolated poontang ranches in Nevada

Wikipedia says completely otherwise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Europe

According to the charts per country,
in almost every country of European Union, prostitution is LEGAL,

and even regulated in eight European Union countries:

In eight European countries (The Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Greece, Turkey, Hungary, and Latvia) prostitution is legal and regulated.

Spreading false informations about this is not helping anyone.

germany, if you have a problem with posts on this thread or the thread in general, there's a report button for that. Your posts reek of moral superiority trolling. If you have disdain for the thread (and it seems you do), it seems you should just ignore it, or use the report button which I've now done for your posts.

As evidence of your trolling, using your very own source (Wikipedia) it's clear that there are 50+ countries in Europe, so the 8 European countries you cited are nowhere near close to "most" countries even in Europe. I've bolded the wording deepdiver used above for you. Perhaps you missed it or misunderstood it as it's wasn't super clear (although I seriously doubt it), but he did state "most" so you stating that Wikipedia shows "completely otherwise" is nowhere near reality.

Moral Superiority Troll from Samseau's post in the types of RooshVForum trolls thread:
/thread-5522-p...#pid439581

Post: #1088

Eh, it's possible something is just getting lost in translation with germany.

Post: #1089

Fact is we do not need pontificating moralist manginas on this topic or on RVF in general.

I have picked up a lot of good game info to sort the pro $loes from ladies who just want a guy with his shite together... so as much or more value received as given...

Post: #1090

This is pretty much intermediate to advanced game to bang some of those girls, if you can even call them that. It's certainly not for newbies. You can see the prostitutes from a mile away, they are programmed i.e. told by Seeking Arrangement (remember the owner isn't running a whore website as he wishes to portray - even though he pretty much is) to ask you "So what kind of arrangement are you looking for?". Either within the initial correspondence or at some point in the actual date.

The American women all seem to be looking for food - expecting to buy them lunch and dinners, had this far less in Europe. One girl was trying to shame me for not wanting to pick up the tab for dinner for her on the first date, saying "I guess I could buy dinner myself" waiting for me to jump in out of sympathy that a working woman has to pay for something. I got her in my hotel room but kicked her out waiting for the next date. She then tried to shame me for not paying for her taxi back with something like "I need to check if I have enough coins for the bus". Go away you disgusting creature.

Don't let them ruin your frame, if they are clearly whores I don't waste my time with them, some people here do and try to play them and fair play to you but I rather not. Don't even want to think about the 70 year old cocks they may have had the previous night. I stick to the ones who aren't out for allowances/cash up front and run OKCupid game on them just with more qualifiers.

Post: #1091

Eliminate the obvious pros and most girls just want to experience a better lifestyle. If you have game it's not hard.

Post: #1092

(06-23-2015 07:13 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Eliminate the obvious pros and most girls just want to experience a better lifestyle. If you have game it's not hard.

That's pretty much I and others have said the past 40 pages.

Post: #1093

Can one of you guys who have been running this game for a while post some of the techniques / scripts you use to screen girls via text before meeting them?

Had my first SA date last night and got burned. I met up with the girl at a hotel lounge. I ran some textbook date game, three drinks, escalated to make out, then bounced to my hotel room.

As soon as we got into the room, she took a step back and broached the subject of compensation. She asked for 2k / month and 500 upfront for the night. I dropped the hot wheels line about not looking for a hooker, which she acknowledged, but said she'd been burned too many times in the past from guys running our game plan .

I pushed it as hard as I could, used the other lines in this thread, got us both naked and fingered her to orgasm, but she ultimately wouldn't let me put it in without money first, so I showed her the door.

I've got another one lined up tomorrow night. We'll see how it goes.

Post: #1094

(06-26-2015 05:23 AM)Laser Wrote:  Can one of you guys who have been running this game for a while post some of the techniques / scripts you use to screen girls via text before meeting them?

Had my first SA date last night and got burned. I met up with the girl at a hotel lounge. I ran some textbook date game, three drinks, escalated to make out, then bounced to my hotel room.

As soon as we got into the room, she took a step back and broached the subject of compensation. She asked for 2k / month and 500 upfront for the night. I dropped the hot wheels line about not looking for a hooker, which she acknowledged, but said she'd been burned too many times in the past from guys running our game plan .

I pushed it as hard as I could, used the other lines in this thread, got us both naked and fingered her to orgasm, but she ultimately wouldn't let me put it in without money first, so I showed her the door.

I've got another one lined up tomorrow night. We'll see how it goes.

Sounds like too many of us have already gone train on her before.

Solution: just go on a date with a younger, more naïve girl, with a more recent profile. I am amazed but there are about two profiles a day started by girls in my search parameters: 18-20, 5'0-5'10, no fatties, etc.

Post: #1095

(06-26-2015 05:23 AM)Laser Wrote:  Can one of you guys who have been running this game for a while post some of the techniques / scripts you use to screen girls via text before meeting them?

Had my first SA date last night and got burned. I met up with the girl at a hotel lounge. I ran some textbook date game, three drinks, escalated to make out, then bounced to my hotel room.

As soon as we got into the room, she took a step back and broached the subject of compensation. She asked for 2k / month and 500 upfront for the night. I dropped the hot wheels line about not looking for a hooker, which she acknowledged, but said she'd been burned too many times in the past from guys running our game plan .

I pushed it as hard as I could, used the other lines in this thread, got us both naked and fingered her to orgasm, but she ultimately wouldn't let me put it in without money first, so I showed her the door.

I've got another one lined up tomorrow night. We'll see how it goes.

I have a not too dissimilar story from last night.

Had a couple of drinks with a girl at a bar. Things were going well, lots of kino. She was looking for a kiss I could tell but I resisted it. Took a taxi to a bar closer to my place. Had a drink there, walked a bit to my place. All the standard stuff.

Started kissing her in my bedroom, then all of a sudden she says let's sit down for a bit. The words then blurted out as per the SA prostitute manual: "What kind of arrangement are you looking for?". I told her I'm happy to share my lifestyle. She said men do that anyway. She told me you realise you're on a website called Seeking Arrangement? Considering I had sex with another girl the previous day and wasn't desperate I just kicked her out of the house. She was shocked, "you do realise I didn't say I'm looking for something". Good way to make herself believe she's not a prostitute. Some of these girls are waiting for you to literally be in a position of sex with a penis in your hand before asking for money/gifts such that you can't refuse to say no. This website is a double edged sword with higher quality but some of the biggest gold diggers known to man, and you don't know what you're getting until the night is over. I agree to generally avoid girls who have been on that website for too long.

Post: #1096

There are so many girls on this site that if you mess up the first 1 or 20 times then it's no big deal as the numbers are there.

Post: #1097

I tell them straight up before i meet them that i don't do cash per meet or monthly allowances. Ok so I don't get as much interest as I could , but it saves a lot of time. Girls flake out soo much anyway. However as it's been said the numbers are there , I could have a date most nights of the week if I had the time.

I look for the good girls; who would be happy to date without a cash hand out. I mostly take them back to my place, booking a hotel in the hope of some action is too costly .

Post: #1098

OK I just had a SA text storm with the most entitled sloe - no matter her bad attitude was an immediate disqualifier as my wing woman.

I basically re-frame the entire arrangement (prostitute) discussion that SA is teaching at their various SB$ugar$ummits - thus the idea of cash for company is eliminated from the equation - they can either push for instant cash ($loe Hoing Pros) and get NEXTED or be one of my wing women in for the long run and income/equity play on a skillz for thrillz basis.

"Wing Woman (My definition) means that you are MY dedicated female protege, mistress, lover and a partner in life who I mentor and who is my confidant who I teach my life's wisdom to and share my secrets with in business and otherwise... basically a working partnership of equals who do a great job "getting each others back". I have no kids and no baggage no alimony and no child support and am not looking for any divorce drama. You being a woman of rare quality, femininity and grace may naturally desire to create new life just like you which I would be open to and for which I would insure a substantial legacy."

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty combined with Brilliance lights the world and motivates great men to great achievement.

(Yeah the beauty quote is my original Deepdiver line - it tends to resonate with their inner 50 shades romantic hamster.)

Basically I leave nothing to interpretation - subtlety being wasted on the typical hamster - it puts sex squarely on the center of the table in return for the privilege of learning and working to be my wing woman personal assistant.

Think intern or commission based FWB PA.

I firmly believe that you can only trust a woman so long as she is energetically into deep connected sex with you - you can tell when they are having a deep orgasm riding you on top - their heads hang down their eyes close and their hips shudder involuntarily as they focus on the orgasms spasm in their vaginas - even the pro sloes have a hard time banging multiple SDs at a time - their holy grail being in one sponsored exclusive kept woman status arrangement. It takes a real hard core prostitute/escort to keep a rotation of men whereas men have no problem compartmentalizing sex separate from an exclusive relationship. Our job is to spread and plant our seed - ladies job is to be selective of what seed is actually planted... thus the necessity to learn game as a life long and evolving pursuit for the true Alpha Neoman.

Post: #1099

The only reason the trim is throwing up walls is because she doesn't believe you.

Yeah, Hotwheels is not wordy.

Edit- Dress well, be a dick, whatever..... This shit isn't rocket science...

Post: #1100

Man, if I had a fucking nickle for every time I hear "What kind of arrangement are you looking for?"

I just tell them "Read my profile" and bug off. Lately I've switched to "a girl who likes to have fun and can be good arm candy" and at time add "I don't care about your degree or fluency in sarcasm".

Yeah, a lot of these bishes have said they've "been burned" before. Lol, this guy pumped and dumped a girl. What did she do? She told me that was assault, 2 mins later she said that was rape.