You can upload directly to the app

You may have accidently hit the fb login button

I've already stated i ensured I did not hit FB log in

I'm guessing I need to get a new number/or FB account?

I received the obligatory new profile boost and matched with 12 women. Scrolling through a bunch of early 30s post-walls only solidified my resolve to continue lying about my age.

(04-19-2019 03:32 AM)The King Wrote:  In terms of getting digits on tinder, there are some basic rules as well as exceptions.

If a girl doesn't want to give her digits, 99% of the time she's not looking to meet up. Exceptions can be made for some DTF girls who either want to come straight over while chatting, or who don't want their boyfriend knowing about you.

An example of the above would be a tourist girl who's flying out the next day. Here's a sample conversation:

You: Hey what's up?

Her: Just smoking a J...etc. Wbu?

You: Cool just doing X. How the dude's treating you on here?

Her: Don't really know, I'm actually flying out tommorow lol

(If a girl is about to leave your country in a few hours then don't waste time with stupid games, just move to meet them ASAP)

You: DTF?

Her: Yeah I'd be down

As soon as the girl is down, throw your clothes on and ask her where she's staying. That's it.

Situations like that are rare, but still something you should prepare for. Can often lead to the quickest and easiest sex in your entire life, and I've even fucked legit 8s doing this.

I've seen tinder from a girls perspective after banging like this. You have hundreds of losers sending DiCaprio GIFs, signalling to go out for a drink. A girl leaving in 12 hours doesn't want a date, she wants to get fucked.

For girls who aren't about to dissapear, it's very important to get them off tinder ASAP. All about narrowing the pool of guys you're competing against for the pussy. A guy on the phone has slightly more importance to her than a guy not on her phone.

You should try to get the number in 3-4 messages. All it takes is for a squad of thirsties to spam her tinder, then you find yourself so far down her inbox that she forgets about you.

I wouldn't even bother downloading snapchat. I've added lots of girls who didn't give out numbers on there, and guess how many I've even gotten a date with? ZERO. That's right, none. The app is for attention only.

I've even had girls unfriend on there when I asked for their number again. Don't fall for the trap, just remove the app.

I'm new to instagram so can't comment on that yet.

Key points:

-Push to move off tinder ASAP

-If girl wants sex now, use tinder and keep messages clear and logistical in nature.

-Don't waste time with attention seeking apps that delete all your content (snapchat)

Exchange a few messages then go for the number.

If the response is anything less than an immediate reply with her number, forget it

I've gotten lays by moving to Instagram or Facebook, but as a rule if she fucks around and doesn't give you her number straight away (no matter how realistic her excuse seems) delete her.

Do not fall for "let's talk for a while here first" or "I'll give you my number after the first date". These are lines designed to keep you hanging on and you will never ever ever meet this girl.

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Exchange a few messages then go for the number.

If the response is anything less than an immediate reply with her number, forget it

I've gotten lays by moving to Instagram or Facebook, but as a rule if she fucks around and doesn't give you her number straight away (no matter how realistic her excuse seems) delete her.

Do not fall for "let's talk for a while here first" or "I'll give you my number after the first date". These are lines designed to keep you hanging on and you will never ever ever meet this girl.
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Good additions

It didn't take long to find out that "let's talk for a while here first" translated into being ghosted within a few messages.

I was supposed to meet up with a girl yesterday. I matched her several days ago, got her phone number and setup a date which were supposed to be yesterday, but I've been busy as hell the last couple days and haven't really been in contact with her. So, naturally, she cancelled just one hour before our 'date', with some bullshit excuse. I just replied: 'let me know if you're free another time". I'm not surprised of course. While she was hot last week, she's cold now.

What do you guys do if you can't meet up until like a week later? Do you keep messaging the girl to keep a convo going and having her invested? I just hate communicating over text.

@Arising

I have the same difficulty when meeting girls more than 5 days out. Keep in mind, however, that 99% of the girls I meet know what I'm looking for (I explicitly say that I'm DTF). Because they're aware that sex is the objective, the window of opportunity will be less than with a girl who's just meeting for 'drinks'.

Doing goofy shit like sending ping texts or memes has rarely worked for me, but apparently it works for some guys. The whole beta aspect of keeping up casual communication is very hard for me to pull off, due to my complete disinterest in small talk. If I do this it comes off as not being authentic.

When it comes to the day of the date, I like to send a text much earlier around mid day. I'll keep it 100% logistical "Let's meet in X at Y" that's it. Don't get disheartened if she doesn't respond to your text right away, just make sure she responds within reasonable time. If she doesn't respond the date isn't happening.

Leading up to the date, I send a text an hour before saying "I'll leave my place in X minutes". This is a last minute check to see if she's flaked, as I'm not wasting my time walking to the bar for no reason.

Your situation with the girl cancelling 1 hour before is completely unacceptable, however. You shouldn't even respond to such a dumb text. Also never use the term "let me know" with a girl (or let them say it either). They never let you know.

I don't care how interested a girl is from the get go. If enough time passes all that interest will fade, especially for someone you haven't even met in person. You're just a disposible statistic, so just keep rolling your dice and meeting other girls.

(04-20-2019 08:19 AM)Arising Wrote:  I was supposed to meet up with a girl yesterday. I matched her several days ago, got her phone number and setup a date which were supposed to be yesterday, but I've been busy as hell the last couple days and haven't really been in contact with her. So, naturally, she cancelled just one hour before our 'date', with some bullshit excuse. I just replied: 'let me know if you're free another time". I'm not surprised of course. While she was hot last week, she's cold now.

What do you guys do if you can't meet up until like a week later? Do you keep messaging the girl to keep a convo going and having her invested? I just hate communicating over text.

If I know I can't meet then I avoid setting up the date, usually after piquing her interest I tell them I'm going on a trip/vacation/out of town and I let them know when I'm back. I'm having way more success telling them I'm going out of town over being busy.

I think it's a mistake setting up the date too early, she's going to go through the date scenario over and over in her mind and unless you are inviting her to an awesome even she's dying to go to, most likely she would realize it's not worth her time. Usually you want to have one very good conversation when you first match/get her contact and then when you come back have another good one so you can invite her when she's on an emotional high note.

I did the 3-month hiatus reset method on one of my accounts.

Remade earlier today, got 10 likes in a few hours, so it looked to be a solid reset. I ran out of swipes so I bought Tinder Gold (I bought Tinder gold since it appeared my reset was DOA from the start). Matched all my girls (good quality, no trash) in the queue, got numbers.

Likes since purchasing Tinder gold: 1

And, just ran boost. two matches.

I purchased Tinder Gold using the website, so no iTunes account was linked.

I'm giving up on this nonsense

(04-20-2019 06:48 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  I did the 3-month hiatus reset method on one of my accounts.

Remade earlier today, got 10 likes in a few hours, so it looked to be a solid reset. I ran out of swipes so I bought Tinder Gold (i bought Tinder gold since it appeared my reset was DOA from the start). Matched all my girls (good quality, no trash) in the queue, got numbers.

Likes since purchasing Tinder gold: 1

You win Tinder. I give up...

If you used the same google play/apple id as before to purchase tinder gold then you effectively bricked your reset.
Also I advice everyone NOT to buy tinder gold, just stick with plus + boosts.

I revised the post.

I used the web version of Tinder to buy Tinder gold so I only input credit card and email, and bought it that way.

I agree Plus + boosts is all one needs, but I didnt want to waste time swiping through to see who liked me since i already had a handful waiting to match.

It seems like I would have been better off letting my account accumulate likes and THEN buying Gold/Plus

I only bought 1 month subscription, so if the account remains dry, I'll just have to eat the $14-15 loss and just delete and try again

Basic questions here; I want to see what I'm doing wrong.

Before, I had Tinder on a small Western European city - would run out of swipes in like three days, almost no matches.
Now I'm moving between big cities in Asia and I have a better profile with some professional pics. I have matches regularly and almost never run out of swipes. I got a couple bangs with 6s - that's not much, obviously. I'm in my late 30's and never pay for boosts or anything.


- what's the number of matches per day/ week I should be aiming for? What percentage should normally reply? Most of my matches don't want to meet if they reply at all.

- If a girl a) is giving one word answers every so many hours (so no real conversation going) b) gives you a bitchy, dismissive or angry autistic reply at your attempt to banter c) is trying hard to make you chase while grilling you for provider traits (I match a lot of girls around 30 which I would bang and even date if it wasn't for them pulling this shit before we even met).. . do you unmatch them outright or any chance fixing them? Do you keep bad matches for any reason?

- how long do you wait before opening? I usually swipe/match throught the day but open around dinner time when I'm free.

(04-21-2019 02:27 AM)HowOneBecomesWhatOneIs Wrote:  Basic questions here; I want to see what I'm doing wrong.

Before, I had Tinder on a small Western European city - would run out of swipes in like three days, almost no matches.
Now I'm moving between big cities in Asia and I have a better profile with some professional pics. I have matches regularly and almost never run out of swipes. I got a couple bangs with 6s - that's not much, obviously. I'm in my late 30's and never pay for boosts or anything.


- what's the number of matches per day/ week I should be aiming for? What percentage should normally reply? Most of my matches don't want to meet if they reply at all.

- If a girl a) is giving one word answers every so many hours (so no real conversation going) b) gives you a bitchy, dismissive or angry autistic reply at your attempt to banter c) is trying hard to make you chase while grilling you for provider traits (I match a lot of girls around 30 which I would bang and even date if it wasn't for them pulling this shit before we even met).. . do you unmatch them outright or any chance fixing them? Do you keep bad matches for any reason?

- how long do you wait before opening? I usually swipe/match throught the day but open around dinner time when I'm free.

My philosophy is that there are too many girls on Tinder to waste time on anyone who is giving you shit. This includes snark, calling your opener "cheesy", being dismissive, giving one word answers, not responding for 48 hours, being unececcarily bitchy, any attempt to put you in the provider box "what are you looking for on here?" / "I've had my fun now it's time to get serious", and just generally not treating the whole thing with fun or light-heartedness. You want a girl who is pleasant (says hahaha a lot) and is able to banter with you while at the same time asking timely, genuine questions about yourself. There are few girls like this, sure, but those are the one you should focus on.

It doesn't matter how hot she is, you're frustrating yourself with girls who are autistic and entitled.

No likes so far today. I guess I did brick my reset

(04-21-2019 12:53 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  No likes so far today. I guess I did brick my reset

Did you keep using tinder web or did you log back into your phone?

I used both simultaneously. Had no issues before I got gold.

I got less matches running boost than as a non paying user.

I can’t get a new number. Or new fb. But maybe. New , remade account + buying tinder plus on new iTunes account Would give decent results.

I’m running out of ideas at this point. I’m ok if I don’t get a ton of matches like I used to. But zero is just unacceptable.

Fortunately the girls I matched yesterday are pretty down and I fucked one last night. So the purchase wasn’t a complete waste. But I basically got 2 hours of value from a 30 day purchase. There has to be a way to overcome this app

I recently reactivated from same phone and same number and I noticed a huge increase in my results. Before it used to be matches the first two days then nothing now it’s pouring in and quality matches at that.

I did put up better pics though. I don’t know what changed with the algorithm but I’m liking it.

I used new number and immediately got matches, which proves that all my previous accounts were shadowbanned (used same number for reset every time). Unfortunately, almost no replies and 0 dates so far. Nearest girl is 50 km away.

A few hacks I discovered for tinder algorithm:

-never unmatch. For some reason if you do it a few times you will stop getting new matches. I've done this 4 or 5 times over the years and its always the same.

- answer back to first messages or you will stop getting matches (even if you aren't into the woman) just make a generic response to keep your tinder rating high

- talk to your matches. Again, not sure why, but the more you talk with your messages the more you will keep getting matches. Probably because it proves you are not a bot or something

- time: swipe around 7pm to 10pm and you will get more matches. This is probably just to do with more people being online at the same time and tinder programmers want you talking to your matches.

Hope this helps.

A recap:

Account #1:

Remade yesterday after 3 month hiatus. Get 10 likes in queue in few hours.. Buy Tinder gold. After buying Tinder gold, only 1 like in queue in past 30-36 hours. account is officially dead/shawdowbanned/whatever. Zero engagement on it now.

Account #2: Made tonight using Google voice. Free account. No gold, plus, etc. ~15 likes in queue in past few hours.

Account 1 still has zero likes in the queue, despite having Tinder Gold, and having the same photos as Account #2.

So now I am thinking its two potential takeaways from this:

1.) Tinder loads freshly made free accounts with matches in the queue to encourage them to buy Tinder Plus/Gold. These accounts are given algorithm placement priority to get more swipes (i.e., noob boost). Once they get your cash, its fuck you and back to lower priority in the algorithm.

2.) Tinder does not do the above, and the reason account 1 went ghost is because somehow buying Tinder gold associated my account with some mechanism/trigger that caused it to be shadowbanned. This means that even if you successful reset, one wrong move can immediately make your account useless.

Luckily tonight I met a dtf girl very keen on Bumble, so I dont have to worry about Tinder's bullshit for the next few days.

Did you use same google play account you bought Gold last time? If that is the case, then you have triggered shadowbanning because of that.

No I used the web version to buy gold, so it was just credit card and email. If anything, my Tinder app, which has been used to make all of my accounts, was downloaded using the same Apple ID, so they could have tagged me that way too. I dont know what happened, but I contacted support and got a refund.

I'm not playing the guessing game anymore. Just going to use a free account until there's a 100% proven way to stop getting handicapped by the app.

griffinmill wrote:

[ My philosophy is that there are too many girls on Tinder to waste time on anyone who is giving you shit. This includes snark, calling your opener "cheesy", being dismissive, giving one word answers, not responding for 48 hours, being unececcarily bitchy, any attempt to put you in the provider box "what are you looking for on here?" / "I've had my fun now it's time to get serious", and just generally not treating the whole thing with fun or light-heartedness. You want a girl who is pleasant (says hahaha a lot) and is able to banter with you while at the same time asking timely, genuine questions about yourself. There are few girls like this, sure, but those are the one you should focus on.

It doesn't matter how hot she is, you're frustrating yourself with girls who are autistic and entitled. ]

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Yes, very few, the only girls I dated (and banged) were having a good attitude from the start.

Once I managed to dominate a girl that was being snarky and have her qualifying herself and putting effort into her responses. The moment I tried to build comfort she ghosted. Next time I'll keep the act all the way see what happens. . .

I have gold and just successfully resetted. 13 new matches but they stopped roughly 12 hours after reset. I performed another reset a few minutes ago; we'll see how it goes