(05-03-2019 05:07 AM)lika91 Wrote:  Im with the king in most of the issues here. I think these are great results and I will also start to invest some more time again, when I have it available.

In one point I disagree though. I think location definitely matters. I cant imagine having success with shirtless pics in countries east and south of Austria.

I understand, what I was pointing out was that location doesn't matter if you're not seeing results anyway. I agree 100% that in some countries a douchebag profile wouldn't work as well. Everything needs to be specific to your region/culture for optimal results.

In Western/Anglophone countries however, superficial douchebag profiles are the most effective way to get quick sex.

Is your shirtless pic your main though? Women say I have a very nice muscular body but I still get fewer matches with my shirtless pic as my main vs a pic of my face

Granted - it’s different types of shirtless pics like you explained. A shirtless pic in a luxury or photogenic background will trump a typical bathroom mirror shirtless pic.

(05-03-2019 03:47 AM)The King Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:41 AM)asianirish1 Wrote:  How has the shirtless picture changed things for you on a match base level and conversational level?

I only started getting laid regularly when using shirtless pics.

You don't want to give off a cheap, toothpaste on the mirror selfie vibe. My picture is of me topless and clean shaven with a black background, and filters applied so the background isn't one solid, black eyesore.

The original is actually a picture I took in my bedroom with curtains closed. I filtered out the entire background so you can't tell where I am. Most people think it was taken in a studio or at a photo shoot.

Using topless pictures won't maximise the amount of matches you get. It will maximise sex, however. Any girls who are not looking to sleep with you extremely quickly will be filtered out automatically. It's a 100% fuck boy profile.

If I wanted more dates I could just use a more conservative profile. I'm not looking for the most dates, however. I'm looking for the most sex. There is a difference between the two. You're not gonna be sneaking in to hotels and college campuses at 1am if you don't have a fuck boy profile.

How did you take it the bedroom? With a self timer?

My friend gets a lot of matches shirtless at the beach, but the picture was captured beautifully under a DSLR camera and he looks great.

I think I'm going to delete my Bumble and Tinder accounts and reinstall/create new profiles after a few days. My first go-round with these apps resulted in 7 matches and 1 bang within a week or two; haven't seen new matches in weeks. I think I've got reasonable grasp now as to how the algorithm works so perhaps I can game it in such a manner to prevent getting shuffled to the bottom of the deck and never getting seen. That or my photos or description suck. Either way going to try again with a fresh start soon.

(05-03-2019 03:32 AM)The King Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 09:26 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 08:58 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  I don't think it's fair to look at his numbers like that. He's basically deleting his account after a day, so you can't use his absolute number of matches against how many girls he fucks in a week. It's not like he's consistently talking to 150 girls throughout the week and he only manages to bang one of them.

if he's deleting his account every day then his numbers are not as good as he thinks.

I consistently get 20-30 matches per week.

If i deleted every day with new account boost i would get way more then that.

so he omitted that information to make himself look like he's got a better profile then he actually does.

Anyways, i still have no plans to come back to tinder anytime soon; it's terribly inefficient compared to night game.

If you deleted your account every day you still wouldn't get results on tinder. You're obviously not getting laid from the app and trying to justify your lack of success by saying "nightgame is better".

You asked about the circumstances like age, location...etc. None of that stuff even matters if you can't get sex from the app anyway. I tried offering some help but you seem to think I'm trying to compare myself to you in some way.

Finally, you talk about the efficiency of nightgame vs tinder. I was bedridden for over a week, could barely leave my house to buy food. I still had sex with 2 girls last week despite this, and all for a few swipes. If that isn't more efficient and cost effective than late nights out and blowing money then I don't know what is.

Don't take offence to this, just listen to what I'm saying and you may learn something.

LOL

tinder more efficient then night game?

ROFL

I just got laid last night after spending $8.50 on a vodka d red bull and spending less then 30 min in the club.

I've never needed even 1 hour to pull a girl from the club.

Literally all my interactions where I successfully fucked the girl where max 30-40 min.

But hey , do you bro, if tinder is working for you then stay at it and enjoy those that 1 in 150 match to sex ratio.

As for me, I'll stick to night game for now.

Are Friday afternoons/early evenings worth spending on a boost, or is it a waste since most girls already have plans?

I'd skip Fridays. Most girls have plans and you should too, or at least have the appearance of plans. Unless you swipe on a girl that's pushing for same night plans and she's your best prospect. Yes, I realize the irony of writing this on a Friday night for which I have no plans.

Apparently Bumble and Tinder are busiest on Sunday nights between roughly 6 and 10 P.M. so I would try those nights to see if Boosts provide worthwhile results. If you're boosting and still not getting many desireable matches, your profile probably needs improvement. I know mine does.

(05-03-2019 03:14 PM)jalke63 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 03:47 AM)The King Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 02:41 AM)asianirish1 Wrote:  How has the shirtless picture changed things for you on a match base level and conversational level?

I only started getting laid regularly when using shirtless pics.

You don't want to give off a cheap, toothpaste on the mirror selfie vibe. My picture is of me topless and clean shaven with a black background, and filters applied so the background isn't one solid, black eyesore.

The original is actually a picture I took in my bedroom with curtains closed. I filtered out the entire background so you can't tell where I am. Most people think it was taken in a studio or at a photo shoot.

Using topless pictures won't maximise the amount of matches you get. It will maximise sex, however. Any girls who are not looking to sleep with you extremely quickly will be filtered out automatically. It's a 100% fuck boy profile.

If I wanted more dates I could just use a more conservative profile. I'm not looking for the most dates, however. I'm looking for the most sex. There is a difference between the two. You're not gonna be sneaking in to hotels and college campuses at 1am if you don't have a fuck boy profile.

How did you take it the bedroom? With a self timer?

My friend gets a lot of matches shirtless at the beach, but the picture was captured beautifully under a DSLR camera and he looks great.

The photo is actually a selfie. I'm only visible from the upper abdominals and up. Keep in mind I have long arms and had the one with the camera at full extension. YMMV. Could just get someone to take it for you or use a timer.

^ I feel you. I just moved into my new place so I have unpacking to do.

Funny enough, I got a SNL about a year ago by asking my date to come back and help me unpack after moving earlier that day...

(05-03-2019 06:17 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Are Friday afternoons/early evenings worth spending on a boost, or is it a waste since most girls already have plans?

I've said this before. Fridays and Saturdays are the best nights to get instant sex. I'm posting this after just getting another +1 to back it up.

Essentially the best nights in the club are also the best nights on tinder (at least in my region). That means that Tuesdays and Wednesdays are absolute dog shit.

I'd plan dates on Sundays - Thursdays and keep Fridays and Saturdays free for instant bangs, if they come up.

@ the king:

I also often use a shirtless pic and i get laid over it, but i feel that i could maximise the lay rate because iam not so good at texting. how do you do the texting part? how long before asking for datE?

(05-04-2019 03:59 AM)Tikimalore Wrote:  @ the king:

I also often use a shirtless pic and i get laid over it, but i feel that i could maximise the lay rate because iam not so good at texting. how do you do the texting part? how long before asking for datE?

PM me your current texting routine and I'll share my template with you.

The King, would you be willing to share template with me?

Also interested in The King's texting template.

having a tough time getting matches. I think it's a combination of poor pictures and living in the suburbs. What do you guys suggest for pictures in order to get the most matches? how many and what type?

(05-04-2019 12:01 PM)busterrhymes Wrote:  having a tough time getting matches. I think it's a combination of poor pictures and living in the suburbs. What do you guys suggest for pictures in order to get the most matches? how many and what type?

I'm planning to utilize the Pancake Mouse approach: How to fuck one girl a week from swipe apps with little time investment.

Ok for the guys who were asking, I'm gonna do a write up of my texting approach on tinder and maybe even Whatsapp. It'll be a generic post sent out to multiple people. I'll get on to it tommorow.

In the mean time, I'm experimenting with making new Tinder accounts using only a phone number to log in. I'll feel stupid if it turns out that making millions of email and facebook accounts was completely unnecessary, but we'll see. (had to try this due to Facebook asking for verification on new accounts)

(05-04-2019 12:01 PM)busterrhymes Wrote:  having a tough time getting matches. I think it's a combination of poor pictures and living in the suburbs. What do you guys suggest for pictures in order to get the most matches? how many and what type?

It all starts from the pictures. If they're crap you're not gonna be getting matches or dates. Focus on improving the pictures (especially your main) as your first step.

Once that's out of the way, read about reset methods a few pages back and start applying them to get your matches up. Once you have the numbers then you're laughing.

(05-03-2019 08:18 PM)The King Wrote:  The photo is actually a selfie. I'm only visible from the upper abdominals and up. Keep in mind I have long arms and had the one with the camera at full extension. YMMV. Could just get someone to take it for you or use a timer.

Oh that's interesting way to get such a photo.

Btw guys, I've tested out multiple photos of myself and others. Shirtless almost always seems to get more matches. Even those mirror selfies. Some were slight increases, some were significant increases. "Buffer" did not necessarily translate into more matches though. All were done with people with decent bodies, and not with flat stomach

You guys are using shirtless photos as your main?

Shirtless photos are my shit. Take one outside with good lighting, preferably on the beach. Shitty mirror pics are a no no.

I would STRONGLY STRONGLY recommend getting some professional or model shots done. I don't even have professional pictures (first pic was taken with an iPhone with good lighting). My decently quality shirtless beach pic has gotten me a good number of dates, lays, and one awesome LTR in 2018.

Tinder gets a lot of hate, but honestly, I fuck with it. It puts me in contact with girls who I never would have met otherwise. My current location has a pretty dead social scene, but there are tons of bored girls living at home who have nothing to do. It's opened up hundreds of girls who I would never be able to talk to otherwise. There actually is quality on there if you select for it.

One thing I want to recommend is calling the girl before the date. I say some shit like "I want to make sure you aren't some creepy old man". Great personal connection. You want to be a human being she is talking to and spending time with, not an online profile sending her messages. She gets enough of those.

Also, what are your thoughts on waiting two to three days to text a girl after the first date? Went out with this Chinese girl yesterday and made out with her. She's down to meet up again, but I'm busy as fuck this weekend (both with work and with other Tinder girls lmao). Don't want to freeze her out (cause I liked her) but I want to ping her at least once or twice this week. Was thinking of just shooting her a funny meme or something on Tuesday.

And how do you guys handle girls asking if you're seeing other girls via Tinder? I was just going to be honest and say that I'm trying to meet new people, I'm not looking for a serious relationship, I'm just trying to see where shit goes.

I alternate between mine. I have an average face, so only the main thing that stands out about me is my body. My best "clothed" photo shot under dslr quality, currently rivals my shirtless mirror photo. Im hoping to get a shirtless photo outdoors photographed to try up the results.

The funny thing about shirtless pic as a first pic is, that if you ask women, they say that it is a no go and they dont like such profiles. But the truth is you get matches and lays over that. But mostly ons.

Changed my main pic to a suit and tie photo with a good camera, from a wedding. Match rate has gone up a lot.

Had 3 dates in the last 3 days. First one was while I was out of town for a conference. Was straight up about my transient status and it bothered her a ton. Got a little make out but no more.

Number 2 was local to my town. She is a nurse and was on-call so she didn’t drink. Sober date while we ate some bar food. Had my hand around her hip, good kino and eye contact. She suggested a second date at the end and had a little make out.

Third was an easy one. 38-year old filipina, great body with a plastic-surgery face. Suggested a same-night date after some convo, on a Saturday no less. One round of drinks at a fancy winery, bounce to my place for round two. Slight resistance but nothing major. She was super nervous and giggly. Big fake tits and a nice yoga body for her age. Hit it raw twice before taking her back to her car.

All of these dates were set up within 60 minutes of matching

Have been getting a ton of matches and more than usual lately for no apparent reason. I haven't changed any profile info or photos, swiped more or changed location. Any one else had this happening? Could it be related to the recent talk about changing algorithms?

Also, I went out last night with this hot 24-year-old, an 8, who super liked me and we ended up fucking. When it's this easy I start wondering whether I am the one gaming or the one being gamed.