trying to get tind3r working and so far no luck. The extension has been removed from the chrome store. I could download the 0.2.2 tind3r client directory in zip format from the following site https://crx.dam.io/ext/olicollicgbjgnial...dccon.html actual link to file https://crx.dam.io/files/olicollicgbjgni.../0.2.2.zip
**(make sure you have your anti-virus etc on?)

then I can unzip the folder, and install the extension in developer mode , and the extension shows up in chrome. there is a little heart in the upper right hand corner of chrome, that goes to tind3r.com. but then when I go to tind3r.com


(get the extension does nothing)

I've also tried 0.2.1 folder from the same archive, no luck, same result.

the tind3r.com frontend (server) is uploaded on github here: https://github.com/rlesniak/tind3r.com but this is different from the chrome extension client and I don't think it is the issue.

maybe there is somewhere else online the (correct?) 0.2.2.zip chrome extension is uploaded?

anyone else have this working!?

Also came across & downloaded 6tin windos app here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/6tin/9...verviewtab and it seems to be working ok, easy to set location, no other advanced features though

thanks again

I think Quaker is spot on here. It’s the reason I’ve stepped back. I took some amateur pics at obvious places NYC (and using them in Europe as a DHV) and to at extent. My bangs and matches did increase fairly easily and especially in the Netherlands. However, I realized what kind of beast Tinder is and the man you need to become/show you that you are to dominate that app. The girls are all taking turns fucking the top guys on the app for sure. For me I think pro pics are gonna be mandatory and I HAVE to get my body right if I’m gonna do well in my target demographic.

I got fashion nailed to a T since I’m in the business and I can demonstrate a pretty interesting lifestyle since I travel between countries with regularity but I don’t have my body/face dialed in correctly and on top of pro pictures, this is what is holding me back.

For all the guys complaining, I believe there is a way to kill this Tinder thing. No one said it is fair but if you maximize yourself and value through pro pics I think it can be done.

I think I’m 50% closure on girls I meet from Tinder. (my biggest problem is initial attraction) I can only imagine what will happen if I can get off my ass and do this thing right.

(10-30-2018 10:49 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I think Quaker is spot on here. It’s the reason I’ve stepped back. I took some amateur pics at obvious places NYC (and using them in Europe as a DHV) and to at extent. My bangs and matches did increase fairly easily and especially in the Netherlands. However, I realized what kind of beast Tinder is and the man you need to become/show you that you are to dominate that app. The girls are all taking turns fucking the top guys on the app for sure. For me I think pro pics are gonna be mandatory and I HAVE to get my body right if I’m gonna do well in my target demographic.

I got fashion nailed to a T since I’m in the business and I can demonstrate a pretty interesting lifestyle since I travel between countries with regularity but I don’t have my body/face dialed in correctly and on top of pro pictures, this is what is holding me back.

For all the guys complaining, I believe there is a way to kill this Tinder thing. No one said it is fair but if you maximize yourself and value through pro pics I think it can be done.

I think I’m 50% closure on girls I meet from Tinder. (my biggest problem is initial attraction) I can only imagine what will happen if I can get off my ass and do this thing right.

Bro the results will be mind blowing. Pretty much any girl I actually meet from tinder is mine. Sorta like IRL if I get her number and get her out the house I can convert the first time we go out or the second. Tinder will make you lazy, but don't sweat it. You will have busted your ass for your body with diet, cardio and weights and taken care of whatever or what little facial issues you have and you'll got everything a truly high value man deserves.

(10-30-2018 05:52 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Something changed though in the last two years, and the last year especially has been brutal. I used to get like 10 matches per swipe session. Now tinder is just totally defecating all over their app with a severely restrictive 25 swipes per session, annoying pushy Tinder gold and Tinder Plus,

Is it possible that that tinder limits number of right swipes not just for men but for women as well to a certain limit per day?

Is it possible that people get fewer matches since women swipe less compared to the days before Tinder gold or plus due to the women having fewer right swipes?

We all know women will never pay for this app, so if they have limited swipes, they will only selectively swipe right to chad high elo score who gets shown first and hence fewer matches to average joe beta at the bottom of the deck.

If women had unlimited right swipes, then it could be a solution to the problem, since they will swipe on more joe betas if chad high elo score ignores her (which he will) since chad has 1000 matches, naturally she will swipe more when she is ignored since she has more right swipes and at least joe beta can get an in to run his text game.

Currently, chad ignores her for 24 hours and after 24 hours she has free right swipes again to swipe a new chad while joe beta doesn't even get shown to her.

If you extrapolate this to all women , then we can see the problem

There is a simple easy way to hack ELO score which I've used many times. I might even want to t take credit for inventing the method as I shared it in the PWF facebook group in 2017, but then again it's not so incredibly original that someone else can't have thought of it as well. Anyways I called it the bait & switch:

1. Create a profile on tinder with your name
2. Use pictures of a male model; I used David Laid and Miroslav Cech
3. Just leave your profile out on tinder in your area for a week
4. During this week, you will be swiped right like 200-300 times
5. As a consequence your ELO score is sky-high
6. Now, before you start swiping yourself, you switch to your own pictures
7. Voila, you now have a high ELO score AND 200-300 matches stacked up

... But if only it really was this simple. In practice literally 30-50% of my matches just straight up unmatch me either immediately or after the first message. Most of the rest still just doesn't respond.

It's not about having a high ELO score and not being seen. It's about not being the top 0.0002%. All the qualms I mentioned before in my rant post are still there; no matter what I do I'm still a 6.5-7 based on my pics (which aren't even that bad as others here have confirmed), and as a consequence I get put in this weird conversation purgatory that Sender talked about as well.

***

But that said I do want to thank you guys for opening my mind about getting pro pics. Fact of the matter all my pics are ultimately just HD selfies, and I'm willing to shill out some bucks to take a shot at having a peak profile.

By the way I've also had some female profiles before just to see what the competition looks like. It is admittedly 90% bad profiles (from what I think the female perspective would be). And as a chick you literally rack up 100+ matches per day. Lol I once had a tinder date with an Asian 3 and she had 3000 matches hahaha it's so over. Anyway my point is sure you don't actually have that much competition, but the problem is either you are the shit or you are nothing, there is no "fair" gradual slope anymore that there used to be a few years ago.

To formulate things more positively I guess the question is what do these girls want to see in a profile and why?

I've probably mentioned this before in this thread. I'm a professional photographer but admittedly my pictures I was using on this app were only mediocre.

I've upped my game and posted some pro photos (self-portraits and one photo of me with another girl who is a hard 8, as a DHV). My matches sky-rocketed, and I was getting match after match after match with almost every right-swipe. But this dries up, fast.

The only way you're put at the top of the stack again is changing your location to another country, and the same thing happens (matching on almost every right-swipe including some hard 7s and 8s before it all dries up).

I'd be about an 8 facially. I'm lean but with tone. Definitely not jacked. I don't have any shirtless pics nor do I have tattoos. I have all my hair and am around 6ft (but put 6'1 on my bio). The only hit to my SMV is the fact I'm 40, but since I could pass for anywhere in my 30s I have 35 down as my age.

After a week of using these new pics I'm currently sitting at 70 matches, having my location set alternately to Warsaw and my hometown.

But I'm still dealing with the fact that 70% either don't respond, or they engage initially but then either back away or refuse to give their number. I actually now hate initiating any kind of conversation because I feel like just another thirsty schlub who's validating this chick and thanked with radio silence.

30% are engaging. But I've been catfished so regularly over the past 12 months that I'm always skeptical of the ones who engage. The good news: I'm still banging girls whose SMV is equal to or higher than mine, so it's still possible, just a harder slog than it used to be. Stay positive, and supplement your online game with real-world interactions.

Using a new sim and restoring purchases on iPhones can result in shadow bans or permanent bans.

Basically you can only get away with this once every 6 months. Tinder doesnt block Apple IDs because they don’t actually know who you are. Apples privacy policy is to generate a unique identifier for each subscription. That identifier is what they are blocking. If you cancel a subscription and don’t make any additional purchases for 6 months then Apple resets that identifier.

The foolproof method is have 6 Apple IDs and rotate through them if you get a ban (assuming you get banned once a month)!

(10-31-2018 08:10 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 05:52 AM)yang2287 Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Something changed though in the last two years, and the last year especially has been brutal. I used to get like 10 matches per swipe session. Now tinder is just totally defecating all over their app with a severely restrictive 25 swipes per session, annoying pushy Tinder gold and Tinder Plus,

Is it possible that that tinder limits number of right swipes not just for men but for women as well to a certain limit per day?

Is it possible that people get fewer matches since women swipe less compared to the days before Tinder gold or plus due to the women having fewer right swipes?

We all know women will never pay for this app, so if they have limited swipes, they will only selectively swipe right to chad high elo score who gets shown first and hence fewer matches to average joe beta at the bottom of the deck.

If women had unlimited right swipes, then it could be a solution to the problem, since they will swipe on more joe betas if chad high elo score ignores her (which he will) since chad has 1000 matches, naturally she will swipe more when she is ignored since she has more right swipes and at least joe beta can get an in to run his text game.

Currently, chad ignores her for 24 hours and after 24 hours she has free right swipes again to swipe a new chad while joe beta doesn't even get shown to her.

If you extrapolate this to all women , then we can see the problem

There is a simple easy way to hack ELO score which I've used many times. I might even want to t take credit for inventing the method as I shared it in the PWF facebook group in 2017, but then again it's not so incredibly original that someone else can't have thought of it as well. Anyways I called it the bait & switch:

1. Create a profile on tinder with your name
2. Use pictures of a male model; I used David Laid and Miroslav Cech
3. Just leave your profile out on tinder in your area for a week
4. During this week, you will be swiped right like 200-300 times
5. As a consequence your ELO score is sky-high
6. Now, before you start swiping yourself, you switch to your own pictures
7. Voila, you now have a high ELO score AND 200-300 matches stacked up

... But if only it really was this simple. In practice literally 30-50% of my matches just straight up unmatch me either immediately or after the first message. Most of the rest still just doesn't respond.

It's not about having a high ELO score and not being seen. It's about not being the top 0.0002%. All the qualms I mentioned before in my rant post are still there; no matter what I do I'm still a 6.5-7 based on my pics (which aren't even that bad as others here have confirmed), and as a consequence I get put in this weird conversation purgatory that Sender talked about as well.

I've been doing the male model thing since late 2016. I believe I ended up finding out that Tinder caches the original photos you use, and then when the girls click on your profile it changes to your photos. So that's why all the girls are unmatching and others don't respond - it's very obvious to them that you are catfishing.

It's a useless "hack", Tinder has already defused it.

Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

Other annoying thing I noticed is half the top picks are obvious escorts and catfishes. Looking good but too sexually suggestive posing with their line or wechats as the only description.

So basically 99% of got girls ignore you on Tinder. Half of them being escorts. Gee thanks tinder. So glad I paid extra to see more hot prostitutes and attention whores.

Tinder is fine if you’re better looking and willing to date down a point or two. But even that can take a lot of time swiping.

Well I don't know if you are a male 8, but you have among the most hilarious nicknames on this forum I have ever seen.

Some questions for guys frequenting this thread:
1. Black and white photos, yes or no?
2. How many photos do you put and what kind of?
3. What is your main profile photo and is it true that first and last one are most important ones?
4. What is the description on your profile?

(11-01-2018 01:43 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Well I don't know if you are a male 8, but you have among the most hilarious nicknames on this forum I have ever seen.

Some questions for guys frequenting this thread:
1. Black and white photos, yes or no?
2. How many photos do you put and what kind of?
3. What is your main profile photo and is it true that first and last one are most important ones?
4. What is the description on your profile?

I have a black and white photo as my main but only because I have to. The colors on it turned out weird when I took it. It's a photo of my physique with perfect indoor lighting (made my own lighting setup, two rim lights coming off the floor and an overhead light. Cut down to around 10% bodyfat to take it and my physique looks amazing.

Profile description is basically all DHV and some cockiness.

Can you give me example of description similar to yours?

(11-01-2018 12:23 AM)Humpty Pump n Dumpty Wrote:  Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

I wouldn't recommend giving "super likes" on hot girls who know that they're hot. You are not gonna stand out with a "super like" to a hot girl anyway, she'll get lots of them anyway from thirsty guys and it won't set you apart anyone else. You're just feeding their egos and they'll just think they're above you.

But it can work on that girl who is seen as a 6 by the general society but just happen to be your type or some chick who looks more innocent and lives in the countryside and is more likely to not have her ego crashing through the roof.

(11-01-2018 12:23 AM)Humpty Pump n Dumpty Wrote:  Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

Other annoying thing I noticed is half the top picks are obvious escorts and catfishes. Looking good but too sexually suggestive posing with their line or wechats as the only description.

So basically 99% of got girls ignore you on Tinder. Half of them being escorts. Gee thanks tinder. So glad I paid extra to see more hot prostitutes and attention whores.

Tinder is fine if you’re better looking and willing to date down a point or two. But even that can take a lot of time swiping.

Not sure what city you are in but this hasn't been my experience. You can definitely tell the fake profiles when the girl is too attractive and doesn't have a bio but for the most part i only encounter pros once every several dozen swipes

(11-01-2018 01:43 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Well I don't know if you are a male 8, but you have among the most hilarious nicknames on this forum I have ever seen.

Some questions for guys frequenting this thread:
1. Black and white photos, yes or no?
2. How many photos do you put and what kind of?
3. What is your main profile photo and is it true that first and last one are most important ones?
4. What is the description on your profile?

1. Who cares as long as they look good
2. Depends on how many good ones you have. In a perfect world you'd have 8 really good pics and swap the first 4 out for the last 4 every month or so.
3. Shirtless pic. The first pic is definitely the most important
4. 2 or 3 sentences where demonstrate cliche wit. nothing special

(11-01-2018 03:02 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

(11-01-2018 12:23 AM)Humpty Pump n Dumpty Wrote:  Even as a male 8 I’m delusional trying to get hot girls on tinder. I changed my swipe strategy recently to try and target the hot girls on Tinder.

Go to Top Picks. Message girls on IG direct. Then left swipe. Most never bother answering back on IG or Tinder. So at best a waste of time. At worst I waste super likes and lower my ELO score.

I wouldn't recommend giving "super likes" on hot girls who know that they're hot. You are not gonna stand out with a "super like" to a hot girl anyway, she'll get lots of them anyway from thirsty guys and it won't set you apart anyone else. You're just feeding their egos and they'll just think they're above you.

But it can work on that girl who is seen as a 6 by the general society but just happen to be your type or some chick who looks more innocent and lives in the countryside and is more likely to not have her ego crashing through the roof.

I have tinder plus, so i usually swipe right on a hot chick first to see if she swiped me if not i'll pull out the superlike. The reality is if you have good pics you just need a bump getting to the front of the line and that's where superlikes and boost help

(11-01-2018 02:15 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Can you give me example of description similar to yours?

6"9". Polka jazz DJ by night, insurance actuary by day.

I mix the best appletinis in town.

Bet you don't have more followers than me: [your IG username]

I know I sound like a broken record here, but I'm having less success on Tinder than ever, and I have to think it's due to Instagram. Even slightly above average girls are racking up thousands of followers on Instagram, and they don't know how to handle all the male attention. I know this to be true because I've had girls follow me and still ignore my DM's, not even reading them. If they don't open my messages, they must have hundreds more jamming up their phones.

Maybe it's my game, maybe not. Either way I'm emphasizing IRL game more than ever now.

(10-30-2018 06:07 AM)Sender Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 04:51 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  Meanwhile people in my category, I don't know, maybe I'm like a 6.5 or 7 I have no idea, but the point is that I'm not legit ugly so I still get matches... But meanwhile people in my category get in this weird place where these chicks need to talk to you for like 2 weeks straight with daily entertainment before they want to meet you. I think I find that aspect of tinder the worst of all, the fact that when you are an OK male, it means you don't get to use tinder for what it's for, instead you get to participate in a fucking conversational tight-rope act where one single misstep means it's game over.

I'm having a similar experience. My conclusion is the girls are either a) keeping the conversation open because they're trying their luck with other guys they consider better value and see me as an inferior second option or b) have been pumped and dumped too many times and are now screening viciously.

One solution is perhaps to try and target 'new users' which I'm noticing is possible on many of the apps with the right method. I'm experimenting with this atm.

(I've also asked Corsega to help me get my profile in better shape which he has been kind enough to agree to.)

It's clear to me after joining RVF that these apps have had a seriously devastating and pervasive effect on gender relations, particularly in the west. If Tinder was ever to reveal it's user statistics, I suspect many people are in store for a cultural shock. STD rates, for example, are already on the rise. In fact, it feels so significant that I wonder if anyone has yet theorised a causal link between the growth of the manosphere and inceldom with the rise of Tinder?

But there's no point complaining about it. These apps work like a drug and the addiction isn't going away any time soon. Overall, if you're not getting the results you want (once you've maximised your profile) you just have to accept it. Either drop the standards of the women that you're willing to bang and/or focus on other game syles.

My experience, even with good pics has been dire and I'd rate myself 7-8 (probably 9 to a lot of girls) in the pics. I'm 45 but pics pass off as 35 and I pass off as late 30s.

lets say 10000 random swipes
500 matches
50 I will send a feeler text (450 are fugly - either fat or ugly - I live in the UK what do you expect!)
10 will converse with me
5 will date
3 will actually go on a date, 2 will flake

The 3 dates were either too fat, face not pretty enough or something. ROI very poor.

I'm focussing on night game. Besides, I got banned from Tinder.

(10-30-2018 12:13 PM)corsega Wrote:  Consider this: the average male on Tinder gets one match per thousand swipes. This was from a study done a couple years ago.

Holy hell that can't be true.. I get on average 50-150 matchs in the states per day(I have the paid for edition so I get unlimited swipes but I still selectively swipe because too many whales on it compared to bumble where I live), but in South America I get maybe 200+ per day with a high conversion rates of dates/fucks (more dates/fucks in S.A. than the states though) but according to photo feeler I am top 20% in looks and have professional photos with my IG attached showing a few T.V. shows I have been in for some value.

But back to the topic 1 match per 1 thousand? Can you link that study? I cannot believe that to be true.

(11-01-2018 10:14 AM)mellowsedge Wrote:  lets say 10000 random swipes
500 matches
50 I will send a feeler text (450 are fugly - either fat or ugly - I live in the UK what do you expect!)
10 will converse with me
5 will date
3 will actually go on a date, 2 will flake

The 3 dates were either too fat, face not pretty enough or something. ROI very poor.

I'm focussing on night game. Besides, I got banned from Tinder.

Those are actually pretty good rates, given that you actually only had 50 elligible matches as opposed to 500. A 1/5 response rate is not bad, and a 1/3 conversation rate to date is actually pretty good. I've rarely had girls flake though, that might be less of a cultural thing here.

***

But anyways I'm curious about you guy's text game. The ratio's will always be around a 1/3 response rate and a 1/5 conversation to date rate, but I'm wondering what you guys are actually saying to the girls in text, or how many responses you tend to exchange and over what time period?

Being an OK-looking guy, like a 6.5/7 I get the sense I'm being put into a weird conversational purgatory where girls expect me to have a conversation with them over the course of a week+, and also to never have a single awkward thing said during the entire time. For the last 2 years I've found it increasingly harder to strike the perfect balance in conversation and I feel like I'm acting more and more beta because whenever I make too much of a forward proposal I will get ghosted rather than rewarded for making a bold move.

It's really confusing to me and I'm wondering if guys are in the same pattern. I've literally had over 20+ times, when I got a girl to actually respond to a text and have a conversation, (so that's like 1/4 out of a pool of 80 matches), where it all follows a similar pattern.

1. Tried and tested evocative opener > Get response
2. Bit of boring questions mixed with some tried and tested lines > Get interest
3. Make a quick proposal to meet > Get immediate radio silence or a rebuff
4. Sometimes I'll ask what's up (pointless obviously) and it's like > "I first want to have a FUN conversation with someone blabla / I don't know you yet"

I'm at a loss nowadays what the fuck is supposed to qualify as a fun conversation? And why the radio silence when proposing a meet up while that's what the app is designed for in the first place.

I can fully accept and understand that because of my looks-based value I'm classed in a different category than Chad. But I just don't get what kind of category this is supposed to be and how I should deal with it.

(11-01-2018 11:22 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

(11-01-2018 10:14 AM)mellowsedge Wrote:  lets say 10000 random swipes
500 matches
50 I will send a feeler text (450 are fugly - either fat or ugly - I live in the UK what do you expect!)
10 will converse with me
5 will date
3 will actually go on a date, 2 will flake

The 3 dates were either too fat, face not pretty enough or something. ROI very poor.

I'm focussing on night game. Besides, I got banned from Tinder.

Those are actually pretty good rates, given that you actually only had 50 elligible matches as opposed to 500. A 1/5 response rate is not bad, and a 1/3 conversation rate to date is actually pretty good. I've rarely had girls flake though, that might be less of a cultural thing here.

***

But anyways I'm curious about you guy's text game. The ratio's will always be around a 1/3 response rate and a 1/5 conversation to date rate, but I'm wondering what you guys are actually saying to the girls in text, or how many responses you tend to exchange and over what time period?

Being an OK-looking guy, like a 6.5/7 I get the sense I'm being put into a weird conversational purgatory where girls expect me to have a conversation with them over the course of a week+, and also to never have a single awkward thing said during the entire time. For the last 2 years I've found it increasingly harder to strike the perfect balance in conversation and I feel like I'm acting more and more beta because whenever I make too much of a forward proposal I will get ghosted rather than rewarded for making a bold move.

It's really confusing to me and I'm wondering if guys are in the same pattern. I've literally had over 20+ times, when I got a girl to actually respond to a text and have a conversation, (so that's like 1/4 out of a pool of 80 matches), where it all follows a similar pattern.

1. Tried and tested evocative opener > Get response
2. Bit of boring questions mixed with some tried and tested lines > Get interest
3. Make a quick proposal to meet > Get immediate radio silence or a rebuff
4. Sometimes I'll ask what's up (pointless obviously) and it's like > "I first want to have a FUN conversation with someone blabla / I don't know you yet"

I'm at a loss nowadays what the fuck is supposed to qualify as a fun conversation? And why the radio silence when proposing a meet up while that's what the app is designed for in the first place.

I can fully accept and understand that because of my looks-based value I'm classed in a different category than Chad. But I just don't get what kind of category this is supposed to be and how I should deal with it.

If you already have working lines that get the number, then once you have that you need to set up something fast before the next chad does as pretty much any girl that's 6/10+ swipes right and gets a automatic match for the most part. Lately I just say, "now that we've matched does that mean were official?" with the typical response being a highly positive one and 90% of the messages I start out with that I get the number within 3-4 more messages(It works for me, so I'd give it a try. If it doesn't work then go back to your material).

If a girl says she wants to get to know you more, all I can contribute to that is: https://www.rooshv.com/the-talking-ratio as I rarely get that issue.

(11-01-2018 10:14 AM)mellowsedge Wrote:  lets say 10000 random swipes
500 matches
50 I will send a feeler text (450 are fugly - either fat or ugly - I live in the UK what do you expect!)
10 will converse with me
5 will date
3 will actually go on a date, 2 will flake.

The 3 dates were either too fat, face not pretty enough or something. ROI very poor.

I'm focussing on night game. Besides, I got banned from Tinder.

Probably a wise move to convert to night game. I'm still learning that the hard way, I think.

What did you get banned for?

I've noticed they chilled a bit on the banning. The realized that disposing of male clientele who basically fund their whole venture are not an unlimited resource lol. Still shows how little they give a fuck about guys - though that's hardly surprising in this male hating world.

(11-01-2018 09:48 AM)redbeard Wrote:  I know I sound like a broken record here, but I'm having less success on Tinder than ever, and I have to think it's due to Instagram. Even slightly above average girls are racking up thousands of followers on Instagram, and they don't know how to handle all the male attention. I know this to be true because I've had girls follow me and still ignore my DM's, not even reading them. If they don't open my messages, they must have hundreds more jamming up their phones.

Maybe it's my game, maybe not. Either way I'm emphasizing IRL game more than ever now.

Do you refresh your age to keep it low? I can only imagine that if someone has aged say 3 years since the start of tinder that you've aged out of an awful lot of girls ranges. How many 22 year old girls have their ages set above 25 in the west?

Would love to know the average age search range for girls, I genuinely wonder if I even show on most of the girls that I've swiped on.

^^ I've matched with girls 10 years younger than me. But girls who like older men are in the minority. I'd imagine young girls have their age range no higher than 5 or 6 years above their own.