Yeah that’s the shit end of the stick. In North America or Europe you are much more likely to get banned. Then you have to pay a ridiculous amount for a new sim or number.

Can anyone confirm tinder still charges less for Facebook accounts?

I have an older account that is using my original FB (I know right?). It’s only costing me $3/month for tinder gold. I thought it was lowering my age. But that doesn’t seem to work anymore. Standard price on new accounts is $14.99/month.

HOW TO FUCK TINDER

My suggestion to guys stateside. Start making phony Facebook accounts well in advance. When you get suspended or banned just login with a fresh and phony FB. Fuck you Tinder.

Hit restore purchases. Restore saves you from losing $15 plus paying again. Hilarious that this works but I’ve tried for several times now! Fuck you Tinder.

You have to start swiping from zero. So you will match some of the same girls again. Put something on your profile that says “my new phone” or “can’t access old account”.

If you recognize a previous match best to unmatch immediately. Take it offline to WhatsApp or whatever. Avoid getting reported. This is much less of a problem if you are traveling.

Tinder usually will unsuspend your account after a few days (unless you see error 40303). If you don’t see the red suspend screen then forget about using that FB or phone again. It’s burnt.

It’s possible to get around the red suspend screen with a hack. It’s annoying but allows you to respond to matches and tell them you’re closing your account or whatever. I won’t post it here, sorry. Fuck you, Tinder.

If it’s just a suspend, you’ll be tempted to reuse the account later. I don’t recommend this. You're much more likely to be banned after a suspend. Just delete that account. You can use it again later as an emergency backup when your current account gets suspended. It’s my hunch that deleting the account resets your warning thresholds.

The advantage of this method is you only need a few FB to use in rotation. Unlike old phone numbers, old FB can easily be accessed later.

Phone numbers are easy to forget, lose the sim, get recycled, etc. If you’re traveling to a new country and get signed out you can’t receive confirmation texts either.

FB method is good if you travel from country to country. Your cheap sims may still be active but may not get service across the border.

Am I correct in remembering that signing up to Tinder with FB does not require a phone number? Or are they requiring both now?

Setting up a new Facebook is a hassle, but it’s actually a cheaper and easier solution over the long term. To avoid confusing yourself remember to delete the FB once they are banned.

Can anyone confirm the FB Tinder parameters? How old does the FB account have to be? How many friends do I need? I remember having problems when I tried this before despite the account being a month old and having random friends.

I’ll play around with it in the next few weeks to figure out the parameters. Fuck you, Tinder.

(10-15-2018 04:42 PM)MikeS Wrote:  I'm sure this has been asked before but I'm using Tinder for the first time in a few years.
Are you typically presented with several matches (could be many of course depending on your profile and the location) the first days of using a new account or reusing a long inactive one, only for the matches to then drop or dry out completely in a way that seems statistically odd compared to those initial days?

Yes, but this is how it has always worked, as long as I've known the app. It's unofficially known as a "noob boost": https://www.swipehelper.com/2016/11/16/t...algorithm/

(10-15-2018 11:51 PM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote:  Am I correct in remembering that signing up to Tinder with FB does not require a phone number? Or are they requiring both now?

Can anyone confirm the FB Tinder parameters? How old does the FB account have to be? How many friends do I need? I remember having problems when I tried this before despite the account being a month old and having random friends.

You need to have a phone number, no matter what. You used to be able to skip this step by adding at least 100 Facebook friends, but they've changed it and now all accounts require a phone number verification.

Your account can be recently created and can have 0 friends. Neither of those parameters are taken into account.

Trying photofeeler and see which one of my pics is best, I'm not getting enough matches to really tell that way. Anyone who used PF have any correlation showing your best pics get more matches?

Also as a side note I'm a real asshole, I find myself writing "lose weight" and/or "grow your hair out" a lot in the comments for photofeeler. Put in a few "get rid of the green hair you look like a psycho".

(10-17-2018 12:20 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  Trying photofeeler and see which one of my pics is best, I'm not getting enough matches to really tell that way. Anyone who used PF have any correlation showing your best pics get more matches?

Also as a side note I'm a real asshole, I find myself writing "lose weight" and/or "grow your hair out" a lot in the comments for photofeeler. Put in a few "get rid of the green hair you look like a psycho".

it's what they need to hear but people put women's feels above all in society.

In Amsterdam for dance event and must have swiped 1000+ profiles and got two matches only. I agree with other posters that Tinder has been on decline and it is dead especially in Netherland.

Back to night game I guess

The most common openers I get from girls are these ones:

"Hi! Who are you?" or "Hiii, who is this nice looking man?" or just a flirty GIF or smiley with eyes made of hearts.

But what are some good response to this? I normally have some great openers myself that shows personality and almost always starts off a good conversation and I have plan where to take it but when the girls write to me it's like I don't know what to respond to a bit odd questions and gifs.

(10-18-2018 08:43 AM)pupdawg82 Wrote:  In Amsterdam for dance event and must have swiped 1000+ profiles and got two matches only. I agree with other posters that Tinder has been on decline and it is dead especially in Netherland.

Back to night game I guess

Damn bro.

I don’t think that’s it though. I just think tinder isn’t for you lol.

All depends if he was getting good quantity and quality before

Tinder is getting harder to use, more bs from the girls, but still worth it to spend 10 minutes a day swiping in my case.

Some setup/optimization tips & my experiences:
-On bluestacks still (barely) do-able to change location for free (using OLD 4.x.x version apk) / other pain in the ass workarounds....(built in bluestacks location app & fake gps apps no longer work to change location with the newer versions of tinder on bluestacks).
-Bluestacks is a pain so...You can also use the web version tinder(dot)com on chrome (desktop not mobile site), and with a little googling, you should be able to set chrome's coordinates (location) wherever you want in chrome developer mode or perhaps fake gps location on other 3rd party desktop or chrome add-on apps. Not sure with Internet explorer, Mozilla, Safari, etc.. didn't work as well for me when I tried briefly so I stuck with chrome.

-As corsega & others have alluded to, it might be worth considering using 2 tinder accounts. My strategy has been one "normal" profile, and one "sex" profile with photos that can't be linked easily. Use care when switching between accounts. You must fully log out...(I personally use separate old cell phone/tablet on wifi for each account for least amount of effort), or at the minimum make sure to clear tinder/facebook/chrome app data on device when switching between accounts. Iphones are harder to log out/clear data on than android. Best to delete the facebook app off device rather than have to deal with clearing data on that too.

-As has been mentioned, but not recently... to start a new fresh tinder account (using google voice voip # to verify): don't sign up with phone # on tinder directly. Get a new free email, sign up for facebook with that email (no need to use facebook or add friends or photos), sign in to tinder. Tinder will then ask you to verify your phone #. You can use a (free in US) google voice # for this verification. Then you should be good to go although tinder MAY ask you to verify phone # again in the future especially if you try to log in with a different device, from a distant location, forget to clear data when switching between tinder accounts, or something else unusual. If you are asked to re-verify phone #, in my experience it doesn't have to be the same one you used initially. I'm not sure how many times you could re-use a phone # for this, with different accounts, I haven't tried it. I suspect this is where people are having issues with getting banned.

Those in the US can get google voice numbers/(free phone # tied to a gmail address (use for texting through gmail, google voice, or hangouts app), must have a actual phone # to link/forward the google voice # to). It's also possible to delete your google voice #/gmail account, and get a new google voice # pretty quickly/easily.

Those outside the US could try other cheap VOIP providers. In the past I used a lesser known 3.99/month voip provider with tinder verification successfully. Or if you do buy a new active sim card with a few minutes on it, use it initially to verify tinder, then call the cell provider & request a new phone # (if necessary tell them you are getting spam calls, too many calls to the old cell owner, or someone is harassing you). You should be able to do this 2 or 3 times or more with one cheap sim and 10 or 100 minutes on it. So really not that expensive. Probably possible to set up a few verified accounts in advance like this, (I've never had problems being banned, but sometimes delete an account and start a new one just for the newbie boost).

With 2 free accounts optimized like this, I'm having at least as much success (meet ups/lays) as I have with one tinder plus account in the "good old days" so many talking about of tinder past. So I let my plus expire & haven't really felt the need to renew it (yet). Gold is worthless, at least for most guys. Plus is marginal..if you're in a big city and often run out of daily likes...OR if you find the extra superlikes useful, probably worth paying for plus. Boosts are seeming to have less and less results.

-I've also experimented with having another 3rd "scouting only" account--- fake with model hot guy or girl photos, in my target's desired age range, and I use that account just for swiping through girls and "recommending to a friend" a couple of the hottest girls that are still somewhat in my niche... -via email link to my main profile. I think if you are too far out of their settings/range, it will show "user not found", and you must click on the link in your email while logged in to the other account within a day or 2.. but it has paid off for me, in terms of showing my profile to girls who likely wouldn't have been shown it otherwise...I do find that frequently enough I match with these girls that my "friend" recommended, and they are in the age range or "tinder ELO score range" that would not normally show up to my main profile at all. Sometimes I use my superlike(s) on them, if appropriate.

tinder has NEVER worked for me.
I get a ridiculously low number of matches.
Bumble and Hinge is a whole different story.
Interesting how some apps "Get" you and others don't!!
also amazing how I was dying a slow death on Bumble until I changed my pics and, voila. Watched the matches grow like weeds.

(10-20-2018 05:40 PM)dirty_old Wrote:  Tinder is getting harder to use, more bs from the girls, but still worth it to spend 10 minutes a day swiping in my case.

Some setup/optimization tips & my experiences:
-On bluestacks still (barely) do-able to change location for free (using OLD 4.x.x version apk) / other pain in the ass workarounds....(built in bluestacks location app & fake gps apps no longer work to change location with the newer versions of tinder on bluestacks).
-Bluestacks is a pain so...You can also use the web version tinder(dot)com on chrome (desktop not mobile site), and with a little googling, you should be able to set chrome's coordinates (location) wherever you want in chrome developer mode or perhaps fake gps location on other 3rd party desktop or chrome add-on apps. Not sure with Internet explorer, Mozilla, Safari, etc.. didn't work as well for me when I tried briefly so I stuck with chrome.

-As corsega & others have alluded to, it might be worth considering using 2 tinder accounts. My strategy has been one "normal" profile, and one "sex" profile with photos that can't be linked easily. Use care when switching between accounts. You must fully log out...(I personally use separate old cell phone/tablet on wifi for each account for least amount of effort), or at the minimum make sure to clear tinder/facebook/chrome app data on device when switching between accounts. Iphones are harder to log out/clear data on than android. Best to delete the facebook app off device rather than have to deal with clearing data on that too.

-As has been mentioned, but not recently... to start a new fresh tinder account (using google voice voip # to verify): don't sign up with phone # on tinder directly. Get a new free email, sign up for facebook with that email (no need to use facebook or add friends or photos), sign in to tinder. Tinder will then ask you to verify your phone #. You can use a (free in US) google voice # for this verification. Then you should be good to go although tinder MAY ask you to verify phone # again in the future especially if you try to log in with a different device, from a distant location, forget to clear data when switching between tinder accounts, or something else unusual. If you are asked to re-verify phone #, in my experience it doesn't have to be the same one you used initially. I'm not sure how many times you could re-use a phone # for this, with different accounts, I haven't tried it. I suspect this is where people are having issues with getting banned.

Those in the US can get google voice numbers/(free phone # tied to a gmail address (use for texting through gmail, google voice, or hangouts app), must have a actual phone # to link/forward the google voice # to). It's also possible to delete your google voice #/gmail account, and get a new google voice # pretty quickly/easily.

Those outside the US could try other cheap VOIP providers. In the past I used a lesser known 3.99/month voip provider with tinder verification successfully. Or if you do buy a new active sim card with a few minutes on it, use it initially to verify tinder, then call the cell provider & request a new phone # (if necessary tell them you are getting spam calls, too many calls to the old cell owner, or someone is harassing you). You should be able to do this 2 or 3 times or more with one cheap sim and 10 or 100 minutes on it. So really not that expensive. Probably possible to set up a few verified accounts in advance like this, (I've never had problems being banned, but sometimes delete an account and start a new one just for the newbie boost).

With 2 free accounts optimized like this, I'm having at least as much success (meet ups/lays) as I have with one tinder plus account in the "good old days" so many talking about of tinder past. So I let my plus expire & haven't really felt the need to renew it (yet). Gold is worthless, at least for most guys. Plus is marginal..if you're in a big city and often run out of daily likes...OR if you find the extra superlikes useful, probably worth paying for plus. Boosts are seeming to have less and less results.

-I've also experimented with having another 3rd "scouting only" account--- fake with model hot guy or girl photos, in my target's desired age range, and I use that account just for swiping through girls and "recommending to a friend" a couple of the hottest girls that are still somewhat in my niche... -via email link to my main profile. I think if you are too far out of their settings/range, it will show "user not found", and you must click on the link in your email while logged in to the other account within a day or 2.. but it has paid off for me, in terms of showing my profile to girls who likely wouldn't have been shown it otherwise...I do find that frequently enough I match with these girls that my "friend" recommended, and they are in the age range or "tinder ELO score range" that would not normally show up to my main profile at all. Sometimes I use my superlike(s) on them, if appropriate.

(10-20-2018 05:40 PM)dirty_old Wrote:  Tinder is getting harder to use, more bs from the girls, but still worth it to spend 10 minutes a day swiping in my case.

Some setup/optimization tips & my experiences:
-On bluestacks still (barely) do-able to change location for free (using OLD 4.x.x version apk) / other pain in the ass workarounds....(built in bluestacks location app & fake gps apps no longer work to change location with the newer versions of tinder on bluestacks).
-Bluestacks is a pain so...You can also use the web version tinder(dot)com on chrome (desktop not mobile site), and with a little googling, you should be able to set chrome's coordinates (location) wherever you want in chrome developer mode or perhaps fake gps location on other 3rd party desktop or chrome add-on apps. Not sure with Internet explorer, Mozilla, Safari, etc.. didn't work as well for me when I tried briefly so I stuck with chrome.

-As corsega & others have alluded to, it might be worth considering using 2 tinder accounts. My strategy has been one "normal" profile, and one "sex" profile with photos that can't be linked easily. Use care when switching between accounts. You must fully log out...(I personally use separate old cell phone/tablet on wifi for each account for least amount of effort), or at the minimum make sure to clear tinder/facebook/chrome app data on device when switching between accounts. Iphones are harder to log out/clear data on than android. Best to delete the facebook app off device rather than have to deal with clearing data on that too.

-As has been mentioned, but not recently... to start a new fresh tinder account (using google voice voip # to verify): don't sign up with phone # on tinder directly. Get a new free email, sign up for facebook with that email (no need to use facebook or add friends or photos), sign in to tinder. Tinder will then ask you to verify your phone #. You can use a (free in US) google voice # for this verification. Then you should be good to go although tinder MAY ask you to verify phone # again in the future especially if you try to log in with a different device, from a distant location, forget to clear data when switching between tinder accounts, or something else unusual. If you are asked to re-verify phone #, in my experience it doesn't have to be the same one you used initially. I'm not sure how many times you could re-use a phone # for this, with different accounts, I haven't tried it. I suspect this is where people are having issues with getting banned.

Those in the US can get google voice numbers/(free phone # tied to a gmail address (use for texting through gmail, google voice, or hangouts app), must have a actual phone # to link/forward the google voice # to). It's also possible to delete your google voice #/gmail account, and get a new google voice # pretty quickly/easily.

Those outside the US could try other cheap VOIP providers. In the past I used a lesser known 3.99/month voip provider with tinder verification successfully. Or if you do buy a new active sim card with a few minutes on it, use it initially to verify tinder, then call the cell provider & request a new phone # (if necessary tell them you are getting spam calls, too many calls to the old cell owner, or someone is harassing you). You should be able to do this 2 or 3 times or more with one cheap sim and 10 or 100 minutes on it. So really not that expensive. Probably possible to set up a few verified accounts in advance like this, (I've never had problems being banned, but sometimes delete an account and start a new one just for the newbie boost).

With 2 free accounts optimized like this, I'm having at least as much success (meet ups/lays) as I have with one tinder plus account in the "good old days" so many talking about of tinder past. So I let my plus expire & haven't really felt the need to renew it (yet). Gold is worthless, at least for most guys. Plus is marginal..if you're in a big city and often run out of daily likes...OR if you find the extra superlikes useful, probably worth paying for plus. Boosts are seeming to have less and less results.

-I've also experimented with having another 3rd "scouting only" account--- fake with model hot guy or girl photos, in my target's desired age range, and I use that account just for swiping through girls and "recommending to a friend" a couple of the hottest girls that are still somewhat in my niche... -via email link to my main profile. I think if you are too far out of their settings/range, it will show "user not found", and you must click on the link in your email while logged in to the other account within a day or 2.. but it has paid off for me, in terms of showing my profile to girls who likely wouldn't have been shown it otherwise...I do find that frequently enough I match with these girls that my "friend" recommended, and they are in the age range or "tinder ELO score range" that would not normally show up to my main profile at all. Sometimes I use my superlike(s) on them, if appropriate.

You can use http://www.tind3r.com to easily spoof your location. Works way better than BlueStacks and Tinder's official webapp.

Like you mentioned I run two free profiles now, I got rid of Plus at the start of the summer. And I use http://www.tind3r.com to always stay logged into one account while I use the other account on my phone.

As far as the scouting account, it's definitely a good way to get some of the hotter girls to the forefront with a good Elo score profile. However, keep in mind that Elo score determines who sees YOU, not who you see. So if you kept swiping, you would eventually see these girls anyway. Tinder doesn't hide profiles. Personally, too much work in my case to run a third profile.

Thought tind3r and the Chrome extension were dead.

Wow, I am definitely punished for multiple resets of my profile. Is there any way to circumvent this? I cannot buy new phone number just because of this.

Tinder keeps adding stupid features like gifs and places. All they need to do is allow you to see everyone in your area at once. Select your top 100 people each month. See who does the same. Then get to chatting. Whoever makes an app that does that could destroy Tinder in 6 months. Swiping is so time consuming and stupid. It rewards losers who are glued to their phone more than beautiful people.

(10-20-2018 05:40 PM)dirty_old Wrote:  Tinder is getting harder to use, more bs from the girls, but still worth it to spend 10 minutes a day swiping in my case.

Some setup/optimization tips & my experiences:
-On bluestacks still (barely) do-able to change location for free (using OLD 4.x.x version apk) / other pain in the ass workarounds....(built in bluestacks location app & fake gps apps no longer work to change location with the newer versions of tinder on bluestacks).
-Bluestacks is a pain so...You can also use the web version tinder(dot)com on chrome (desktop not mobile site), and with a little googling, you should be able to set chrome's coordinates (location) wherever you want in chrome developer mode or perhaps fake gps location on other 3rd party desktop or chrome add-on apps. Not sure with Internet explorer, Mozilla, Safari, etc.. didn't work as well for me when I tried briefly so I stuck with chrome.

-As corsega & others have alluded to, it might be worth considering using 2 tinder accounts. My strategy has been one "normal" profile, and one "sex" profile with photos that can't be linked easily. Use care when switching between accounts. You must fully log out...(I personally use separate old cell phone/tablet on wifi for each account for least amount of effort), or at the minimum make sure to clear tinder/facebook/chrome app data on device when switching between accounts. Iphones are harder to log out/clear data on than android. Best to delete the facebook app off device rather than have to deal with clearing data on that too.

-As has been mentioned, but not recently... to start a new fresh tinder account (using google voice voip # to verify): don't sign up with phone # on tinder directly. Get a new free email, sign up for facebook with that email (no need to use facebook or add friends or photos), sign in to tinder. Tinder will then ask you to verify your phone #. You can use a (free in US) google voice # for this verification. Then you should be good to go although tinder MAY ask you to verify phone # again in the future especially if you try to log in with a different device, from a distant location, forget to clear data when switching between tinder accounts, or something else unusual. If you are asked to re-verify phone #, in my experience it doesn't have to be the same one you used initially. I'm not sure how many times you could re-use a phone # for this, with different accounts, I haven't tried it. I suspect this is where people are having issues with getting banned.

Those in the US can get google voice numbers/(free phone # tied to a gmail address (use for texting through gmail, google voice, or hangouts app), must have a actual phone # to link/forward the google voice # to). It's also possible to delete your google voice #/gmail account, and get a new google voice # pretty quickly/easily.

Those outside the US could try other cheap VOIP providers. In the past I used a lesser known 3.99/month voip provider with tinder verification successfully. Or if you do buy a new active sim card with a few minutes on it, use it initially to verify tinder, then call the cell provider & request a new phone # (if necessary tell them you are getting spam calls, too many calls to the old cell owner, or someone is harassing you). You should be able to do this 2 or 3 times or more with one cheap sim and 10 or 100 minutes on it. So really not that expensive. Probably possible to set up a few verified accounts in advance like this, (I've never had problems being banned, but sometimes delete an account and start a new one just for the newbie boost).

With 2 free accounts optimized like this, I'm having at least as much success (meet ups/lays) as I have with one tinder plus account in the "good old days" so many talking about of tinder past. So I let my plus expire & haven't really felt the need to renew it (yet). Gold is worthless, at least for most guys. Plus is marginal..if you're in a big city and often run out of daily likes...OR if you find the extra superlikes useful, probably worth paying for plus. Boosts are seeming to have less and less results.

-I've also experimented with having another 3rd "scouting only" account--- fake with model hot guy or girl photos, in my target's desired age range, and I use that account just for swiping through girls and "recommending to a friend" a couple of the hottest girls that are still somewhat in my niche... -via email link to my main profile. I think if you are too far out of their settings/range, it will show "user not found", and you must click on the link in your email while logged in to the other account within a day or 2.. but it has paid off for me, in terms of showing my profile to girls who likely wouldn't have been shown it otherwise...I do find that frequently enough I match with these girls that my "friend" recommended, and they are in the age range or "tinder ELO score range" that would not normally show up to my main profile at all. Sometimes I use my superlike(s) on them, if appropriate.

Thanks for sharing your tricks, a lot of guys come to brag on this thread or to bash other dudes but many are actually using tricks to optimize their account and don’t share them, instead they just tell you « tinder is still good for me ».

I am not on tinder since a few months and not planning to use it again unless I travel very far from home.
I think your post is very informative for a dude whose results decreased on tinder (mine decreased drastically, that’s why I stopped using it), but ultimately I think it’s not worth trying to optimize an app which is doing everything to lower a man’s SMV and maximizing the chicks one.

I am quite sure at some point a better app for men will be created, more generally I think at some point men will gather to defend themselves against the aggressive feminism which denies their masculinity and is spreading very quickly and everywhere.

(10-21-2018 05:54 AM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote:  Tinder keeps adding stupid features like gifs and places. All they need to do is allow you to see everyone in your area at once. Select your top 100 people each month. See who does the same. Then get to chatting. Whoever makes an app that does that could destroy Tinder in 6 months. Swiping is so time consuming and stupid. It rewards losers who are glued to their phone more than beautiful people.

Agreed but Tinder is just pricing the pussy at the maximum they can, they are making it more and more difficult for men so that they spend more and more money, I believe the best IRL players won’t necessarily do well on tinder, you need to have time to spend on it, be kind of geeky OR be a 8,5/9. Ultimately game has very little to do with having success on tinder and I say this as a man who had great success with it in the past.

(10-21-2018 01:22 AM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Thought tind3r and the Chrome extension were dead.

Still going strong for me.

(10-21-2018 05:54 AM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote:  Tinder keeps adding stupid features like gifs and places. All they need to do is allow you to see everyone in your area at once. Select your top 100 people each month. See who does the same. Then get to chatting. Whoever makes an app that does that could destroy Tinder in 6 months. Swiping is so time consuming and stupid. It rewards losers who are glued to their phone more than beautiful people.

The point of an app company is to optimize for user engagement, i.e. how much time you spend on the app. Tinder knows exactly what they're doing, and no one would ever start that company because of that.

Having gold confirmed for me that Tinder is dead, I'm not going to bother with it again until after I move. Using the exact same pictures as 2 years ago I'm getting zero matches. Would have gotten at least 10 by now 2 years ago.

I think gold is actually a scam, when you don't have it they're lying to you about other girls who matched with you already. After you sign up they mysteriously disappear.

I registered on photofeeler today and according to votes there, my pictures are generally attractive but they could improve. Nevertheless that was evidence that my pictures are not the fault I am not getting any matches but because of algorithm that punished me for repeated profile resets.
Swipehelper website really opened my eyes regarding algorithm and how the app really works. I managed to reset profile using my mom's phone number (LOL) and I must say, it is real. Tinder behaves as I am brand new user and I am shown profiles I haven't seen before. Even have some likes but I haven't matched yet with anyone.

Tinder gets worse and worese(germany). Until 1,5 years ago I didnt need gold and had mass matches, also with some hot women. Nowadays I have gold but it still sucks ass. The golden tinder days are over. I dont exactly know what happened, if tinder changed the algorithmus to force the men to pay, but it is still worse with gold. Or the men women ratio has gone insane.

(10-21-2018 01:04 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  Having gold confirmed for me that Tinder is dead, I'm not going to bother with it again until after I move. Using the exact same pictures as 2 years ago I'm getting zero matches. Would have gotten at least 10 by now 2 years ago.

I think gold is actually a scam, when you don't have it they're lying to you about other girls who matched with you already. After you sign up they mysteriously disappear.

It's possible that you're shadowbanned. Happened to me recently. I just suddenly stopped getting matches, and the little box where it tells you the number of people who have liked me disappeared. I think the disappearance of this like counter is how you can tell if you've been shadowbanned.

(10-21-2018 01:04 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  Having gold confirmed for me that Tinder is dead, I'm not going to bother with it again until after I move. Using the exact same pictures as 2 years ago I'm getting zero matches. Would have gotten at least 10 by now 2 years ago.

I think gold is actually a scam, when you don't have it they're lying to you about other girls who matched with you already. After you sign up they mysteriously disappear.

If you want to PM me the photos you're using I'm happy to review.

Try Plus instead of Gold, there is zero point to using Gold, but Plus gives you unlimited swipes, which means way more chances of getting matches.

I live in a city of under 100,000 and I'm having no success with Tinder. I match with a lot of girls (2-5 a day when I'm using the app) but I can almost never convert those matches into dates (successful only twice out of around 100 matches). Are these poor results normal or will anyone offer me a better structure dictating how an interaction should take place? I've tried reading the previous posts but 95-99% of the nearly 300 pages seem to be unhelpful.

I know I'm asking for help while offering nothing in return, but I'm new around here so I'm still trying to figure out how I can contribute and create value in this community. Any help (with my bio, pictures, msgs, etc) you guys are willing to offer will be sincerely appreciated.

(10-21-2018 04:40 PM)psuednym45 Wrote:  I live in a city of under 100,000 and I'm having no success with Tinder. I match with a lot of girls (2-5 a day when I'm using the app) but I can almost never convert those matches into dates (successful only twice out of around 100 matches). Are these poor results normal or will anyone offer me a better structure dictating how an interaction should take place? I've tried reading the previous posts but 95-99% of the nearly 300 pages seem to be unhelpful.

I know I'm asking for help while offering nothing in return, but I'm new around here so I'm still trying to figure out how I can contribute and create value in this community. Any help (with my bio, pictures, msgs, etc) you guys are willing to offer will be sincerely appreciated.

That's a bad conversion rate. I have good messaging game and convert around 1 in 7 of my matches into a date in the hardest city in the US (San Francisco).

Your bio and photos clearly aren't the problem, as you get 2-5 matches a day, which is far above average. I get a match a day with my photos completely maxed out, on a non-Plus account.

So the problem must be your conversations. Post some screenshots here and we can break them down.

I have tinder gold and I am still getting easy 50+ matches a day. I don't know if your selectively swiping but don't. Swipe yes on all and wait for the good ones to come through. Its also a goldmine if your traveling to SA. Just put your location to Bogota or somewhere like that and swipe all yes and see how many hot bitchs you get.

Unless your tinder profile/pictures are complete shit then you need to learn to do a profile correctly because for most women, they actually do read that shit.

In the states the conversion rate from talking on the app to number is maybe 4-5 girls out of 10 and date maybe 1-2 out of 10. In SA conversion rate is about 9.5 girls out of 10 for getting the numbers and 5-6 out of 10 for 1st date and then 2-3 out of those 10 for lay by first/second date.