Post: #51

I just think it should be there as something to fall back on, especially for guys who are disabled or suffering mental health issues. It is a saner society where men at least have the option to get their rocks off. In New Zealand's case where it is legal, they already have the sluttiest women in the world. I would like to see it fully legalised, like that in Australia, it contributes to a saner society.

Post: #52

(12-29-2012 09:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 11:23 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  A-wouldn't your boxers be all wet afterwards?. Instead of having a wet spot on the bed sheet, you are actually wearing it. I cant even imagine how it would feel to pull your jeans over that and walk around with a wet infestation hazard in your pants.

B- it would raise brows/questions with the pro and look ridiculous.

C- Raw dogging a random girl = no problem, hooker = condom +boxershorts and probably white socks and sneakers.

D- ever heard of washing and soaping up afterwards? If you're really paranoid about std's then use hand sanitizer afterwards. Kills everything.

Please don't tell you actually did this once.

I don't know what kind of cheap boxers you wear but I like the kind that fit me well and give proper support.

Water runs right off polyester and also does not hinder any performance.

You can't be serious with a response like this. Now that I've seen the picture of the underwear it's even more laughable. So where exactly goes your dick? Do you cut a hole or pull the fabric aside so you can use the side entrance in front? And in no way the hooker will laugh at you or worse think that you are actually covered in sores or something.

Oh, and the water runs right off! That really helps. Yeah, hookers usually get real wet for guys wearing their underwear while banging.

May I advise this wet suit to you, although the guy in the picture isn't very careful not wearing a facemask and gloves.
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Oh, my "cheap" underwear is Calvin Klein or other brands.

Post: #53

This whore thread isn't realistic. In first-world countries (where most forum members live), quality whores will never be $35/fuck.

Plus, sleeping with a whore isn't as satisfying as sleeping with a normal chick for plenty of reasons (the main one being that whores generally aren't into you since they are fucking you for money).

Post: #54

(12-30-2012 08:54 AM)Magic Bullets Wrote:  I just think it should be there as something to fall back on, especially for guys who are disabled or suffering mental health issues. It is a saner society where men at least have the option to get their rocks off. In New Zealand's case where it is legal, they already have the sluttiest women in the world. I would like to see it fully legalised, like that in Australia, it contributes to a saner society.

Hookers should only be used when in desperation. For example when you tried your best gaming and it still didn't work.

In Holland, going to prostitutes is heavily frowned upon. It's considered for losers only or a bro-thing when you're young and hanging out with your buddies and visit a night club (still frowned upon by just about everyone)

In short: Hookers NO/loser, Gaming YES/winner.

Post: #55

(12-29-2012 06:09 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 05:03 AM)RawGod Wrote:  What the hell? Many of us live in countries where prostitution is legal and the price is not an issue. A john just has a different mentality, what with being fucking losers.

"Many of us" live in countries where prostitution is legal?

Like where?

(12-29-2012 05:44 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  35 $ is damn cheap but I would still choose to game instead.

Yeah, but Neil, you could live off $35 for like the next 20 years couldn't you?

Prostitution is legal in Canada, you can bang a hooker in Montreal for $80-120, You'll find lots of ads by Googling "Montreal backpages".

Banging whores isn't something to take lightly, I feel that once you cross that bridge it has an effect on any guy's head, its not something I'd really recommend but to each his own.

Post: #56

Cost isn't the determining factor for me whether 35 or 200 bucks

Don't care about any morality issues, or whether the girl has feelings for me

STDs are the issue. I've dabbled before (and will in the future) , but never feel the greatest after. Some of the sex had been incredible, but it's no fun worrying about the dome breaking etc
The biggest slut could be considered a virgin compared to a sex worker especially the ones n 3rd world countries (in terms of # partners)
So hookers for me are only when desperate times call for desperate measures
To each his own though don't consider someone using them a loser by any stretch

Post: #57

(12-30-2012 09:09 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  In short: Hookers NO/loser, Gaming YES/winner.

You're very tall, young, and white--none of which you earned by any effort of your own.

But naturally when you do exert some effort-- which I grant you do, your stories and travel are impressive-- you get much better results than others, and project your own situation onto them.

It's easy to call less advantaged people losers. It's also sort of like being a schoolyard bully.

Post: #58

(12-30-2012 08:55 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 09:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 11:23 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  A-wouldn't your boxers be all wet afterwards?. Instead of having a wet spot on the bed sheet, you are actually wearing it. I cant even imagine how it would feel to pull your jeans over that and walk around with a wet infestation hazard in your pants.

B- it would raise brows/questions with the pro and look ridiculous.

C- Raw dogging a random girl = no problem, hooker = condom +boxershorts and probably white socks and sneakers.

D- ever heard of washing and soaping up afterwards? If you're really paranoid about std's then use hand sanitizer afterwards. Kills everything.

Please don't tell you actually did this once.

I don't know what kind of cheap boxers you wear but I like the kind that fit me well and give proper support.

Water runs right off polyester and also does not hinder any performance.

You can't be serious with a response like this. Now that I've seen the picture of the underwear it's even more laughable. So where exactly goes your dick? Do you cut a hole or pull the fabric aside so you can use the side entrance in front? And in no way the hooker will laugh at you or worse think that you are actually covered in sores or something.

Oh, and the water runs right off! That really helps. Yeah, hookers usually get real wet for guys wearing their underwear while banging.

May I advise this wet suit to you, although the guy in the picture isn't very careful not wearing a facemask and gloves.

Dude what have you been smoking lately Neil?

Why the hell would I care if the hooker is enjoying herself or not? If she's not down with anything I do she can bounce, in a world of $35 hookers there's no shortage.

You can just open the middle, the underwear is incredibly flexible and will mold around you easily.

Post: #59

(12-30-2012 08:13 AM)frenchcorporation Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 09:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Civilian girls = Some care for you
Whores = none care for you
civilian girls = normal STD risk
whores = elevated STD risk

In countries where prostitution is legal, like new zealand for example, the sex workers have to get tested monthly

they actually have lower std rates than the general population

That doesn't mean they haven't picked up a whole host of STD's and aren't carriers for them.

Post: #60

(12-30-2012 10:21 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 08:55 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 09:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 11:23 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  A-wouldn't your boxers be all wet afterwards?. Instead of having a wet spot on the bed sheet, you are actually wearing it. I cant even imagine how it would feel to pull your jeans over that and walk around with a wet infestation hazard in your pants.

B- it would raise brows/questions with the pro and look ridiculous.

C- Raw dogging a random girl = no problem, hooker = condom +boxershorts and probably white socks and sneakers.

D- ever heard of washing and soaping up afterwards? If you're really paranoid about std's then use hand sanitizer afterwards. Kills everything.

Please don't tell you actually did this once.

I don't know what kind of cheap boxers you wear but I like the kind that fit me well and give proper support.

Water runs right off polyester and also does not hinder any performance.

You can't be serious with a response like this. Now that I've seen the picture of the underwear it's even more laughable. So where exactly goes your dick? Do you cut a hole or pull the fabric aside so you can use the side entrance in front? And in no way the hooker will laugh at you or worse think that you are actually covered in sores or something.

Oh, and the water runs right off! That really helps. Yeah, hookers usually get real wet for guys wearing their underwear while banging.

May I advise this wet suit to you, although the guy in the picture isn't very careful not wearing a facemask and gloves.

Dude what have you been smoking lately Neil?

Why the hell would I care if the hooker is enjoying herself or not? If she's not down with anything I do she can bounce, in a world of $35 hookers there's no shortage.

You can just open the middle, the underwear is incredibly flexible and will mold around you easily.

Maybe it's the fact that I haven't been smoking much lately the reason for me to be feisty/grumpy.

Let's not discuss this any further. Like I said before, I always like to read your contributions but this one just sounded ridiculous in my opinion. Let's leave it at that. I like a lot of posters but I think I have read some funny/unbelievable/crazy posts from any one of them.

For example I was highly highly surprised with the reactions in the women beating/ghetto ho thread and some of the posters really disappointed me but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate other things they are writing.

I'm sure every poster must have something they hate about me but appreciate me for other things too. Those rep points aren't repping themselves.

Post: #61

(12-30-2012 10:12 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 09:09 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  In short: Hookers NO/loser, Gaming YES/winner.

You're very tall, young, and white--none of which you earned by any effort of your own.

But naturally when you do exert some effort-- which I grant you do, your stories and travel are impressive-- you get much better results than others, and project your own situation onto them.

It's easy to call less advantaged people losers. It's also sort of like being a schoolyard bully.

I was very tall, young and white also in my 20's but went to night clubs sometimes with my friends. Now at 36 and having some game I laugh at the mere thought of it. Not because I think people who use hookers are losers but because I think I have passed that stage and moved on, not needing to do that with my gaming skills nowadays.

Maybe I said it wrong due to my English but I meant to say that even though prostitution is legal, it's still heavily frowned upon in Holland and considered a loser thing to do by the general public. Not be my.

Post: #62

(12-30-2012 09:46 AM)scotian Wrote:  Banging whores isn't something to take lightly, I feel that once you cross that bridge it has an effect on any guy's head, its not something I'd really recommend but to each his own.

How did it screw with your life?

How did it negatively impact you?

Post: #63

Quote:OhioStater commented: Sex is about conquest, which is only bad since it affirms the feminist view “rape is about power”. Rape is about pleasure to a celibate man, but consensual sex is about power to a fulfilled man.

Ya, conquest. I like to conquest as much of the girl as possible, at least for LTRs. And even for one night stands I want to make some sort of connection – or some real conquest. I just don’t see much chance of much conquest going on when it’s a paid transaction.

I like the way you put it. I sometimes use the word intimacy, but that puts off some of the audience. Conquest means basically the same thing and can fit even better.

There is no conquest without submission, and conquest plus submission=intimacy.

I’d love it if we could pay for submission, but women don’t seem to be built to do that. They want indirect rather than direct payments as sex lubricant. Expensive dinners rather than cash. If you pay them outright they tend to look upon you as a client and somehow that fucks up their whole emotional relationship, as if it puts you below her in rank.

Women will submit without much struggle sometimes to a famous or high status man, but you can’t replicate that dynamic with payment. You won’t get the same emotional response or the same type of submission. And for lower status guys we have to seduce, or “jump through hoops”, or charm the pants off of her, and escalate escalate escalate to push past her resistance and get her to submit. The emotional response to a good seduction can’t be replicated through payment either. Submission isn’t just a physical act – it’s an act of being charmed. I don’t see that money really gets around that – not through direct payment anyway. It can be used well as an aid to a good seduction though.

For me it's not about if the whore charges 25 cents or if the total cost of the date leading to the bang is $100. It's not down to just how much the transaction costs. Because I'm not after just a transaction. I'm after a genuine conquest. And I don't get the conquest experience from payment. Or even from being stingy with my coin. I get it from a genuine reaction from the girl. YMMV.

Post: #64

(12-29-2012 04:42 AM)soup Wrote:  and whores could only charge a maximum of $35, would you give up on the game and drop money p4p instead of using your time and resources to learn "The Venusian Arts" ?

Access to the hottest girls for $35 vs. double chin not-so-SIF Mondays...?

I think is undignified of a man to pay for something he ought to be receiving abundantly and for free.

Lets say you where married, and your wife asked you for $35 every time you wanted to have sex. Would that be acceptable?

If a woman demanded that you take her out to a fancy dinner in exchange for a half assed blowjob, would that be acceptable?

Paying for something that is your right is not acceptable.

Sex should be exchanged for sex only. A woman should WANT to have sex with you because she desires you and likes to basque in the radiance of your male energy. Or perhaps, in a worst case scenario, because she is horny and you are the least undesirable of the options available to her. And thats only the worst case. If the only thing a woman might want out of you is money, then, im sorry to inform you that you have been playing the game with an incorrect set of rules.

If you need to bribe them in order to get her acceptance, you are doing it wrong, and your way of thinking is also wrong. Sex is not a reward for good behaviour nor a product to be bought.

Post: #65

i dont have any moral problems with it other than i hate giving women money. i am young and dont NEED to buy sex but when im old say 60 plus id rather pay for it with hot 20 year olds than be in relationships with 40 plus broads. but i dont think it will come to that as i will just retire to SEA where age gaps arent much of a problem for the local women. but if i had to live in a first world country at 60? how else are you going to get 20 year olds unless you are very rich? game only improves things somewhat it doesnt help 60 year old men banging 20 year olds in first world countries.

one of my favorite charlie sheen quotes, when asked why he pays for prostitutes, “I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.”

Post: #66

(12-30-2012 11:09 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 04:42 AM)soup Wrote:  and whores could only charge a maximum of $35, would you give up on the game and drop money p4p instead of using your time and resources to learn "The Venusian Arts" ?

Access to the hottest girls for $35 vs. double chin not-so-SIF Mondays...?

I think is undignified of a man to pay for something he ought to be receiving abundantly and for free.

Lets say you where married, and your wife asked you for $35 every time you wanted to have sex. Would that be acceptable?

I get your thinking, but I bet there are millions of men who would rather pay their wife $35 and tell them to leave.

Post: #67

(12-30-2012 11:19 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 11:09 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 04:42 AM)soup Wrote:  and whores could only charge a maximum of $35, would you give up on the game and drop money p4p instead of using your time and resources to learn "The Venusian Arts" ?

Access to the hottest girls for $35 vs. double chin not-so-SIF Mondays...?

I think is undignified of a man to pay for something he ought to be receiving abundantly and for free.

Lets say you where married, and your wife asked you for $35 every time you wanted to have sex. Would that be acceptable?

I get your thinking, but I bet there are millions of men who would rather pay their wife $35 and tell them to leave.

Post: #68

(12-30-2012 11:19 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 11:09 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 04:42 AM)soup Wrote:  and whores could only charge a maximum of $35, would you give up on the game and drop money p4p instead of using your time and resources to learn "The Venusian Arts" ?

Access to the hottest girls for $35 vs. double chin not-so-SIF Mondays...?

I think is undignified of a man to pay for something he ought to be receiving abundantly and for free.

Lets say you where married, and your wife asked you for $35 every time you wanted to have sex. Would that be acceptable?

I get your thinking, but I bet there are millions of men who would rather pay their wife $35 and tell them to leave.

Hookers keep a ton of marriages intact. Which keeps Fathers around to be Fathers. Without hookers i'd imagine the divorce rates would be 75% to reflect the state that almost 70% of marriages are sexless whiten a few years.

Post: #69

(12-30-2012 10:43 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 10:12 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 09:09 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  In short: Hookers NO/loser, Gaming YES/winner.

You're very tall, young, and white--none of which you earned by any effort of your own.

But naturally when you do exert some effort-- which I grant you do, your stories and travel are impressive-- you get much better results than others, and project your own situation onto them.

It's easy to call less advantaged people losers. It's also sort of like being a schoolyard bully.

I was very tall, young and white also in my 20's but went to night clubs sometimes with my friends. Now at 36 and having some game I laugh at the mere thought of it. Not because I think people who use hookers are losers but because I think I have passed that stage and moved on, not needing to do that with my gaming skills nowadays.

Maybe I said it wrong due to my English but I meant to say that even though prostitution is legal, it's still heavily frowned upon in Holland and considered a loser thing to do by the general public. Not be my.

Neil, it's considered a tacky tourist attraction, right?

Post: #70

(12-30-2012 11:50 AM)soup Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 10:43 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 10:12 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 09:09 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  In short: Hookers NO/loser, Gaming YES/winner.

You're very tall, young, and white--none of which you earned by any effort of your own.

But naturally when you do exert some effort-- which I grant you do, your stories and travel are impressive-- you get much better results than others, and project your own situation onto them.

It's easy to call less advantaged people losers. It's also sort of like being a schoolyard bully.

I was very tall, young and white also in my 20's but went to night clubs sometimes with my friends. Now at 36 and having some game I laugh at the mere thought of it. Not because I think people who use hookers are losers but because I think I have passed that stage and moved on, not needing to do that with my gaming skills nowadays.

Maybe I said it wrong due to my English but I meant to say that even though prostitution is legal, it's still heavily frowned upon in Holland and considered a loser thing to do by the general public. Not be my.

Neil, it's considered a tacky tourist attraction, right?

Most Americans seem to think at prostitution is only legal in Amsterdam but there are window hookers all over the country.
I don't think most people see it as a tacky tourist attraction but rather something for dirty old men and loser guys. There is no strip club culture in Holland. Only night clubs which are frequented by criminals and semi-criminals. Of course there are just regular guys going but those clubs have a bad reputation.

The second option would be to go to the famous hookers behind the windows which is considered as no class and seedy/dirty because girls get forced to be there sometimes.

Third option would be the worst one. Street hookers. We're talking 10 dollar blowjobs from junkies with teeth missing.

Furthermore, Holland has its unique problem of loverboys, although it's spreading throughout other Nordic countries too. Loverboys are without doubt nearly all immigrant guys (mostly Morrocans) who sweet talk a high school girl into a relationship and give them presents and make the girl totally in love with him.
After a while, they say to the girl that they have money problems because of the expensive gifts they gave them (jewelry,clothes) and criminals will hurt them if they don't come up with cash. They ask if the girl wants to have sex with some guy for money. The girls (usually weak and vulnerable with mental problems) will do everything for the guy because they're so much in love with the guy who told them fantastic stories and promised them a good future. The loverboys then start viciously pimping the girl out to just about everyone. Girls getting kidnapped and beaten all the time. Sometimes they work as window hookers and will be chained to a radiator after the last costumer leaves.

It's a truly horrible form of prostitution. Just imagine having a 15 year daughter being forced to have sex with old arabs.

So yes, going to prostitutes is very much looked down upon in Holland.

Post: #71

I've never paid for a hooker, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't.

I'd rather bang a hot hooker than jerk off. But in the same way that jerking off leaves me feeling wanting, I know that banging a hooker would most likely do the same. I would use this experience to fuel my drive for gaming bitches, and only fall back on hookers under certain circumstances.

Honestly, I've always had a fantasy of being super rich (100 mil or so) and once a year or so just drop 50G on a night of complete and utter excess. Rent a penthouse suite in Manila or someplace that gets a lot of bang for the buck, and have about 25 smoking hot hookers come over, have some Lechon Baboy catered, maybe rent a few zoo animals walking around and circus performers, and just have a giant fucking party with hookers jumping on trampolines, open bar, everyone gets shitfaced and I just have girls crawling all over me all night.

But back to reality: I think having cheap sex readily available would eventually shift the culture here a bit. Some other things would need to take place to de-stigmatize it, but overall I think it would be good for gender relations in the U.S.

Post: #72

I don't even know if prostitution is legal or not in the country I live. I just don't care. Game on!

Post: #73

There are a few states in the US where it's legal. Nevada comes to mind. In the other states prostitutes are called escorts. Everyone knows the deal. They just want it off the streets. We have a nice Puritanical image to uphold.

Post: #74

(12-30-2012 02:09 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  There are a few states in the US where it's legal. Nevada comes to mind. In the other states prostitutes are called escorts. Everyone knows the deal. They just want it off the streets. We have a nice Puritanical image to uphold.

The principle behind escorts is that you're paying for her time and company, which isn't against the law. The sex part is purely a decision made by two consenting adults, so there is some form of plausible deniability regarding whether the client paid directly for sex. We all know that most dudes can get a woman to accept a free meal or tickets to a show without the expectation of sex...HA HA!

Post: #75

(12-30-2012 02:09 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  There are a few states in the US where it's legal. Nevada comes to mind. In the other states prostitutes are called escorts. Everyone knows the deal. They just want it off the streets. We have a nice Puritanical image to uphold.

Prostitution is actually not legal throughout the state of Nevada. Only in certain counties.

Quote:Legality of prostitution in Nevada, by county. Counties in red do not permit prostitution. Counties in yellow contain at least one active brothel. Counties in blue allow prostitution, but do not have any active brothels.