Post: #351

(07-26-2014 12:06 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Was out earlier tonight to this gastropub. Place was like 95% white. The only black dudes in there(which numbered about 3) were with white women. All of them 3s and 4s.

Was at this outdoor concert thing going on yesterday. Saw 3 brothas there with white women too. All of them 5 or below.

I think I've only seen one black dude with a girl in the last half year that made me say "damn, brotha came up on that".

There's this red head white girl I know out here, late 30, she has two half black kids. We're just cool through some mutual friends, never messed with her anything. She's decent looking, especially for her age. We went to a club one night and black dudes were giving me props just for being with her and she's maybe a 6 tops. Just fucking ridiculous and pathetic.

Post: #352

(07-26-2014 12:06 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  There's this red head white girl I know out here, late 30, she has two half black kids. We're just cool through some mutual friends, never messed with her anything. She's decent looking, especially for her age. We went to a club one night and black dudes were giving me props just for being with her and she's maybe a 6 tops. Just fucking ridiculous and pathetic.

I think we as black men dig our own graves sometimes. Giving another black man props for being with a mediocre white girl? And complain women don't wants us because we're lower status than other races of men? If that woman was black, she'd be lucky to get half the props.

Reminds me of a Facebook picture I saw recently. A black buddy of mine recently got married to this heavyset white lady. Next to her in the photo was a SMOKING black/brown mixed girl who she was friends with (at least an 8). Status/race didn't matter to me one bit, would've sawed my arm off to take the brown girl over the heavyset white lady. Wonder if many brothas would feel the same way.

Post: #353

Thought you guys might find this interesting. There's this girl in Russia( I don't talk to her anymore), she's from some small provincial town. She's one of the minority of Russian girls with a brotha fetish. I had stumbled across her music blog awhile back as she actually has great tastes in jazz, soul and hiphop and we talked a bit about music and Russia and random shit. She even sent me some mixes that she made. That was a few years ago and I kinda lost touch with her. Anyway, girl is young and pretty hot. She's now in a relationship with some brotha from Vegas who flies out there to see her. Not to be fucked up, but dude is busted. Though from what I hear it's not unusual for Russian women to date below them on the looks scale. I'm not hating, just stating the obvious. I only point this out to show how much shit changes when you're dealing with the international market. I'll post a few of their FB pics so you see what I'm talking about, but I won't leave them up long. Unless this dude has some mini-celebrity fame or jedi mind tricks game, it's very unlikely he'd get with an American white girl that was that many points above him on the looks scale. That's something I see almost never without fame being involved in some way. But lesson here is that rules can change dramatically when you're talking about foreign women. Looking at her recent FB updates, even though they live an ocean apart, she seems to be absolutely crazy about him. She seems like a real sweetheart too and very smart, intellectually. Speaks like 5 languages, reads all these classic Russian and European literature books, knows history.

Post: #354

Now that is an average looking black man. This doesn't surprise me at all. He even looks better than the black kid I'm mentoring in China and he has girlfriends this cute as well. Back when my dad was young men were supposed to get women prettier than themselves. That used to be the norm. The game in the US is fucked up now. SMV is all in favor of busted looking women dating skinny good looking brothers and some brothers got muscles but still date whales. I used to be the same way when I was a beta. These fat and busted hoes are nicer at first, they get mean later. Kosko dialog from another thread about that fat chick hitting on him shows this bad SMV problem is getting worse.

Post: #355

It's funny that guy is considered a black man, when in reality you can clearly see from his skin tone he has mixed white genes already. He's not african dark at all. If he were to have kids with her, the chances are high most of the kids would come out lily white. I've seen mulatto/purebreed-white mixes before, and the results are usually white as snow.

So I wonder if girls subconsciously know if their kids will come out "good" (by white standards) as a result of the mix. I really think girls have some kind of subconscious thing directing them when it's time to have kids.

Post: #356

No offense to you American brothas, but that is a whole different scene down there.

Guys I know that date fat white women are usually doing it for some financial gain, or in most cases to get "papers" to be able to stay in Canada(insert western country). I don't buy the fact that they find these women attractive, it is all economics.

Like Djemba Djemba I have spent some time in Europe as well, brothas are dating much better quality over there. In London I have friends who are in relationships with every nationality of girls you can think off, all these girls are bangable. One dude I know who has 3 kids is dating a young blonde polish stunner.

On the flipside, I know guys who simply aren't into non-black women. No matter how hot they are, black or nothing. I have been in a situations with a cousin of mine who is like this, we had some "beckys" all up in our faces and he simply ignored them to my disappointment.

Speakeasy that Russian girl you posted is cute, but I wouldn't go far as to say the dude is busted. I find with alot of those girls they are into the vibe or personality of the person. The game stuff simply doesn't apply outside the Western world.

Post: #357

(07-26-2014 10:45 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Like Djemba Djemba I have spent some time in Europe as well, brothas are dating much better quality over there. In London I have friends who are in relationships with every nationality of girls you can think off, all these girls are bangable. One dude I know who has 3 kids is dating a young blonde polish stunner.

This topic came up in the RVF chat today. The intermarriage rate of Black Caribbean's in the U.K is extremely high, around half of the men and 4 in 10 of the women are marrying someone of a different race and it's only getting higher. At this rate they will eventually disappear into the broader population.

Post: #358

(07-26-2014 10:22 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's funny that guy is considered a black man, when in reality you can clearly see from his skin tone he has mixed white genes already. He's not african dark at all. If he were to have kids with her, the chances are high most of the kids would come out lily white. I've seen mulatto/purebreed-white mixes before, and the results are usually white as snow.

So I wonder if girls subconsciously know if their kids will come out "good" (by white standards) as a result of the mix. I really think girls have some kind of subconscious thing directing them when it's time to have kids.

Look at him again, this guy is 100% black, no mix. There are many 100% black guys who look like this. Even if this guy had great grandparents who were white, his white blood is literally irrelevant because he looks more black than anything else. A guy with Chris Rock complexion wouldn't make any difference to her, I believe.

Post: #359

(07-26-2014 10:22 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's funny that guy is considered a black man, when in reality you can clearly see from his skin tone he has mixed white genes already. He's not african dark at all. If he were to have kids with her, the chances are high most of the kids would come out lily white. I've seen mulatto/purebreed-white mixes before, and the results are usually white as snow.
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That is officially the dumbest shit I think have ever heard .......

   

Post: #360

(07-26-2014 02:51 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  I only point this out to show how much shit changes when you're dealing with the international market.

No doubt.

The racial/historical baggage has made the U.S. a strange place.

Chick is definitely attractive even though she's not my type. See, if you're going to go white do it right.

Ha, I should start a meme on that.

(07-26-2014 08:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Back when my dad was young men were supposed to get women prettier than themselves. That used to be the norm. The game in the US is fucked up now. SMV is all in favor of busted looking women dating skinny good looking brothers and some brothers got muscles but still date whales.

My pops and I talk about this all the time.

Shoutout to Roosh's Busted Dudes Test.

In terms of the american smp being jacked up for the average dude (no matter the ethnicity), all I can say to fellas struggling with this is fuck being average.

(07-26-2014 10:22 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's funny that guy is considered a black man, when in reality you can clearly see from his skin tone he has mixed white genes already. He's not african dark at all.

He's definitely "black" in the american sense. Any white admixture that dude has was from several generations ago.

Most of our families run the skin hue spectrum from blue black to "high yella". No "coloureds" like in south africa.

Hell, I'm lighter than that cat but been "black" my whole life (with black parents and grand/great parents on both sides). All I know is that we all have degrees of melanin and common physical features.

(07-26-2014 10:45 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  On the flipside, I know guys who simply aren't into non-black women. No matter how hot they are, black or nothing.

I know a few brothers like this as well. Some because they're on that conscious tip others because that's just what they like.

Although I've been with multiple ethnicities my preference is for girls with shades of melanated skin accompanied by all the features attractive sisters are known for...I can still acknowledge when a woman of another race is bangable though.

Post: #361

(07-26-2014 10:22 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's funny that guy is considered a black man, when in reality you can clearly see from his skin tone he has mixed white genes already. He's not african dark at all. If he were to have kids with her, the chances are high most of the kids would come out lily white. I've seen mulatto/purebreed-white mixes before, and the results are usually white as snow.

So I wonder if girls subconsciously know if their kids will come out "good" (by white standards) as a result of the mix. I really think girls have some kind of subconscious thing directing them when it's time to have kids.

That is because of 1% drop rule's legacy in American culture. We do not properly call people mixed like we probably should due to a litany of reasons. Some of them being that if had an ancestor that was raped by a white man, like myself, he may not have the exact name of the person in his family tree. Speaking of trees, most black people in the US do not have one that fully extends out with their white ancestor's names on it due to census records and birth certificates bearing the names of black fathers incorrectly. This year, my brother and I have been doing alot of work with historical research and DNA testing to complete ours. With me having a degree in History, himself in the medical field, we have found lots of interesting things. Like we are part Choctaw, Cherokee, Haitian, and French. We had already known about the rape from family members already but we are trying to find that white guy's name and what not. We have a white cousin from our French ancestor that we met while researching who wondered if she had black relatives, but her family members vehemently deny it. She even looks dark for a white person. Now she knows the truth and so do we.

If those two have kids, the same thing will happen that always happens. The sperm that fertilizes that egg will have preset instructions as to how dark or light that child will be. I have one sibling that is darker than me by alot. The amount of sun exposure between us is basically the same and irrelevant. Those two people in the photo could have a very dark kid or a very light colored one, like Stephen Curry of the Golden State Warriors. I bet Nemencine could explain it alot better, but the chromosomes already contain an initial skin color hue and each sperm cell is carrying a different initial shade.

To answer your question about whether or not foreign girls knowingly pick these black guys knowing that the mixture will not be very dark or not. I think they do. I think my wife did subconsciously, regardless of what she claims when I asked her about this before. My proof is that when she saw some actual Africans with very dark skin in person for the first time, she was surprised at how dark they really are, and then compared them to me and then talked about the color of our kids in the same sentence. She did know that I am technically mixed but that was only because I told her about that prior. The guy in that photo is barely darker than me. I do however have the nose of a Native American though.

Post: #362

(07-26-2014 12:37 PM)pitt Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 10:22 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's funny that guy is considered a black man, when in reality you can clearly see from his skin tone he has mixed white genes already. He's not african dark at all. If he were to have kids with her, the chances are high most of the kids would come out lily white. I've seen mulatto/purebreed-white mixes before, and the results are usually white as snow.

So I wonder if girls subconsciously know if their kids will come out "good" (by white standards) as a result of the mix. I really think girls have some kind of subconscious thing directing them when it's time to have kids.

Look at him again, this guy is 100% black, no mix. There are many 100% black guys who look like this. Even if this guy had great grandparents who were white, his white blood is literally irrelevant because he looks more black than anything else. A guy with Chris Rock complexion wouldn't make any difference to her, I believe.

Possibly. Foreign women do know that most of us are mixed with white. They are not stupid. They can look at a Congo person, A West African, and an American Black and see differences between all 3. The speculation is tougher to make without cross examining her like a lawyer would.

Post: #363

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Possibly. Foreign women do know that most of us are mixed with white. They are not stupid. They can look at a Congo person, A West African, and an American Black and see differences between all 3. The speculation is tougher to make without cross examining her like a lawyer would.
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NONSENSE

African American - Congolese - West African ?????

   
   
   
   

Post: #364

Serge Ibaka
African American or Congolese -or West African ???
   

Nnamdi Asomugha
African American or Congolese or West African ???
   

Lebron James
African American or Congolese or West African ???
   


I hate to make ad hominem attacks, but to educated people you guys sound retarded.....

Post: #365

kdolo is right. I mentioned this before. When people travel they will realise black people look the same. Caribbeans, West Africans, black Americans look the same. It's culture and behaviour that makes the difference. Dress them all in the same outfit and you can't tell the difference.

Nnamdi Asomugha is a Nigerian but you could swop him in for any of the millions of black Americans and you would never know. The list goes on.

The foreign lizards don't really give a fcuk and can't really tell. I used to hit a white lizard for two years that didn't even like Africans.

Post: #366

Andrew Wiggins

African-American, Congolese, or West African ???

   
   
   

Post: #367

(07-26-2014 06:40 PM)Moma Wrote:  kd Caribbeans, West Africans, black Americans look the same. Dress them all in the same outfit and you can't tell the difference.

Nnamdi Asomugha is a Nigerian but you could swop him in for any of the millions of black Americans and you would never know.

The foreign lizards don't really give a fcuk and can't really tell. I used to hit a white lizard for two years that didn't even like Africans.

Nnamdi and Serge ....could be American.

talk about funny ... I still hit a yellow Dominican lizard who would look you in the face and tell you she doesn't even like blacks, Haitians, and most certainly not any African ......

as if she could tell.......her damn kids are blacker than most African Americans. not to mention mother, father, cousins, etc.....

Post: #368

"Caribbeans, West Africans, black Americans look the same. It's culture and behaviour that makes the difference."

And the cultural differences if you look carefully aren't as great as you would think.....the biggest difference is language....

They way they socialize, dance, music, love of flossing, fashion, love of women with fat asses, the females obsession with their hair and hairstyles/head coverings, place of women in the society, love of tasty full flavored food....etc....

Post: #369

(07-26-2014 06:53 PM)kdolo Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 06:40 PM)Moma Wrote:  kd Caribbeans, West Africans, black Americans look the same. Dress them all in the same outfit and you can't tell the difference.

Nnamdi Asomugha is a Nigerian but you could swop him in for any of the millions of black Americans and you would never know.

The foreign lizards don't really give a fcuk and can't really tell. I used to hit a white lizard for two years that didn't even like Africans.

Nnamdi and Serge ....could be American.

talk about funny ... I still hit a yellow Dominican lizard who would look you in the face and tell you she doesn't even like blacks, Haitians, and most certainly not any African ......

as if she could tell.......her damn kids are blacker than most African Americans. not to mention mother, father, cousins, etc.....

Even if you look at Meek Mills, he looks like he could be from West Africa (see below)



Or Zach Randolph (see below)


Or Gucci Mane (see below)

Post: #370

Eh, I mean, I think a lot of men are rejecting black women because a lot of them don't take their health seriously. Obesity is fucking absurd in the black community. I'm light (about 150) and I feel like it's rare when I see a black woman that I outweigh. Now, I know I'm a thin motherfucker, but when a chick who is 5'4 has got 20 pounds on me you know shit is fucked up.

As far as leaving the country for women? I think that's a bit drastic for me, but I cannot judge. If you can't get what you want here, then by all means go elsewhere.

As far as the attitude on black women, I hear shit like this way too much: "i'm not fucking with a nigga if he can't pay my bills or buy me a pair of shoes." Now, I don't know about you, but to me that sounds like straight up prostitution. I could buy a chick a pair of shoes and get laid? I may as well fuck a prostitute, because the second a guy who can buy better shoes for her comes along, she'll drop my ass.

However, I do respect that they're open about it.

Post: #371

(07-26-2014 07:07 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Eh, I mean, I think a lot of men are rejecting black women because a lot of them don't take their health seriously. Obesity is fucking absurd in the black community. I'm light (about 150) and I feel like it's rare when I see a black woman that I outweigh. Now, I know I'm a thin motherfucker, but when a chick who is 5'4 has got 20 pounds on me you know shit is fucked up.

As far as leaving the country for women? I think that's a bit drastic for me, but I cannot judge. If you can't get what you want here, then by all means go elsewhere.

As far as the attitude on black women, I hear shit like this way too much: "i'm not fucking with a nigga if he can't pay my bills or buy me a pair of shoes." Now, I don't know about you, but to me that sounds like straight up prostitution. I could buy a chick a pair of shoes and get laid? I may as well fuck a prostitute, because the second a guy who can buy better shoes for her comes along, she'll drop my ass.

However, I do respect that they're open about it.

Rule number one is, NEVER listen to what a lizard says. That is a CRUCIAL part of dealing with lizards whether you are marrying them or dating them or trying to bang.

Rule number two is: GAME is imperative.

What I am seeing with black American lizards is, weight issues and attitude. Whether one looks at society taking away power from the community, the bottom line is, there is no accountability for their actions so they can be quite rude and overweight.

However, here in the south, although they are often fat, they seem cool and do cook and do other shyt etc. It's just the attitude (lack of subservience and high testosterone behaviour) plus weight issues..that can turn off the more well to do black men. Hood cats don't care much, they'll fcuk anything they can get their dycks inside.

Post: #372

@Moma:

I'm curious to know how you came up with the moniker "lizard" to describe women. I find myself almost unconsciously using it now. It's strangely appropriate, somehow.

Where did this term come from? Did you invent it?

Post: #373

(07-26-2014 07:07 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Eh, I mean, I think a lot of men are rejecting black women because a lot of them don't take their health seriously. Obesity is fucking absurd in the black community. I'm light (about 150) and I feel like it's rare when I see a black woman that I outweigh. Now, I know I'm a thin motherfucker, but when a chick who is 5'4 has got 20 pounds on me you know shit is fucked up.

As far as leaving the country for women? I think that's a bit drastic for me, but I cannot judge. If you can't get what you want here, then by all means go elsewhere.

As far as the attitude on black women, I hear shit like this way too much: "i'm not fucking with a nigga if he can't pay my bills or buy me a pair of shoes." Now, I don't know about you, but to me that sounds like straight up prostitution. I could buy a chick a pair of shoes and get laid? I may as well fuck a prostitute, because the second a guy who can buy better shoes for her comes along, she'll drop my ass.

However, I do respect that they're open about it.

Obesity is a problem. agreed.
Leaving the Country ?? check it out. your mind will be blown.
Women and bill payment:

ALL women will want resources from a man at some point especially when the relationship transitions from pleasure sex to "relationship". This is the nature of the beast. We want sex They want security/resources.

Thats how nature made it... dont bash the girls too much for that...

in all societies just about - where the woman has freedom - you are at risk of her dropping you of she finds a a richer, more handsome, more famous, more powerful man ...... that's how nature made it. its called HYPERGAMY and is perfectly natural and normal.

Post: #374

(07-26-2014 07:16 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  @Moma:

I'm curious to know how you came up with the moniker "lizard" to describe women. I find myself almost unconsciously using it now. It's strangely appropriate, somehow.

Where did this term come from? Did you invent it?

Here you go: origin of RVF lizard term

Post: #375

You picking random pictures of American citizen "blacks", athletes at that, does not prove anything. Some Americans are indeed first or second generation removed from Africa. In fact some of those Africans you posted are mixed as well. The Boateng brothers for example are mixed. But we are talking about everyday West Africans, Congo citizens, and Black Americans. Not some handpicked athletes. Have you ever seen people from the Congo while in China? I have. They look nothing like what most black Americans look like. It's not a fucking diss at them or anyone. It's just the damn truth. They look different. Not all foreign women are stupid enough to think all "black" people look alike. When you guys try to force identify all dark-ish people in the Americas as "black" without any regard for their mixed heritage, you are doing exactly what the bigoted forefathers of this country setup and intended us to identify ourselves as (1% drop rule). Yeah they are at fault for why we never fully integrated into American society, but some of that blame can be placed on us as well. I know calling everyone "black" is convenient for discussion purposes, because we all do it right or wrong, but lets not at like we are technically not mixed, as if that fucking rape stuff never ever happened either. That's just disingenuous. It is also illogically incorrect to assume anyone outside of America or the West for that matter automatically assumes and views us all as the same thing technically, culturally, or socially.

You can holler black american unification and solidarity propaganda and rhetoric all you want. That does not remove any perceptions that an outsider will make about what they think you are inside their own country and their own minds. Some Asians think all dark skinned men are from Africa, some think it depends on the country, some think certain ones are just mixed like Obama is, and some just think that person is just a citizen of that country and they do not care for the technical details. Some even think it is just a mere skin color and will call other darker Asians "black" just because that is the word they like to use to describe those people. One time a Chinese person corrected me when I referred to Obama as a black president. He insisted that I call him the first mixed blood president. I laughed at the time, but I understand where he was coming from.

Your perception of what you think your racial identity is, does not make it reality for others. I know that some things Samseau says is not very popular with certain guys here. I have no intention of starting drama about that, but his questions were not stupid or wrong. He brought up an interesting and valid point that was worth discussing. You don't have to agree with everything anyone says for inquiries to be valid questions. That is why we have discussions in the first place.