Post: #2401

I was in Staples today, and scoped out the cashiers as I was meandering about the aisles. Of the two, I opted for the short, dark Asian, but the manager was hangin' right there. Correct me if it's overthinkin' it, but I figured that the presence of an overseer would really lower the likelihood of striking up a chat. So, I hung back browsing until her left the scene, and then zoomed up to the register.

While discussing my adventures with a co-worker who's 60, and still takes a swing here and there, he suggested a line to use, which I pulled here . . .

me: Do you date?
her: "Um, yeah. That's fine." (I guess she didn't quite catch the line)
me: So, let's date.
her: Oh, well, I have a boyfriend.
me: You're dating each other exclusively?
her: Yeah.
me: So, you're gonna stuck with this guy?
her: Well, for now.

When she laid that one down, I should've take it as a cue to push for at least a number, but I ended it there.

Post: #2402

Just passed a toll gate and gave my Line ID on a piece of paper to the girl in the booth. I was driving a very ordinary car, but it seems to have done the trick, as she added me. I guess they rarely get those kind of approaches. That's kinda a lazy way, but it works.

Post: #2403

(10-10-2015 09:28 AM)Oskar Wrote:  Was feeling quite out of it today- too much caffeine. But, I didn't back down and made my mind up to approach.

Spent 10 min or so wandering around the store looking for a short girl. I strongly prefer them shorter than me.

Just my luck, girl asked me if I could hand her a plastic bag since she couldn't reach past someone. After handing it to her, I started to ramble about hot cocoa.

She heard my accent said we could switch to English if I prefered. I did. (Good or bad? Need to try it out both ways)

Due to my caffeine jitters, I kept blurting out what I had to say and couldn't think of another statement fast enough.

Next time: 1. less coffee, obviously. 2. S.l.o.w. it down. This will give me more time to think of what to say next.
3. Stop being concerned with content. No one gives a damn about cocoa vs coffee vs tea. More random bullshit is what I needed, and add in some conversation bait about places I've been to etc.
4. Don't smile so much. Filling in silence with smiles doesn't work.

Yeah caffeine is a game killer for me as well. Try taking l-theanine next time you drink coffee to calm yourself down. Another option is to meditate for 15-20 minutes before you do daygame, as that helps relax you.

In terms of silences, they are golden for building sexual tension. But don't smile like a goof. Sexual tension isn't built with smiling.

Post: #2404

While driving, I see a beautiful light skinned black girl in yoga pants, with a statuesque body.. She is walking 3 dogs.

I immediately park my car, cross the street and open her..

me: are you a professional dog walker?
her: haha no these are my dogs
me: nice looking
her: thanks
me: can i ask u something
her: i guess
me: do u date white guys?
her: oh ha im married but thanks im flattered

Next!

--

Driving thru the mall parking lot, a sexy black girl is walking right towards my car..

I stop and roll down my passenger window..

me: u looking for me?
her: are u my uber driver
me: no but i can give u a ride
her: wait what

She walked over to another car, her uber.. I turned my car around and drove up her again..

me: im a normal person i just want to talk to you for a minute
her: ok
me: whats your name?
her: ebony
me: im gio
her: hi
me: i know u gotta go can i text u later
her: sure

She never replied.

Next!

--

I see a pretty white girl wearing all black..

I walk ahead of her on the staircase, as we are exiting, I turn and open her..

me: i love the all black look
her: oh thanks
me: u ever heard of stevie nicks?
her: ya i have fleetwood mac
me: thats right, she had the worlds greatest collection of black clothes, for a girl
her: right
me: i was gonna do an all black day today but decided not to at the last minute
her: haha really

We chatted for a minute, I thought it was going really well.

me: hey u wanna talk again sometime
her: ummm, ill just see u around

Next!

--

I see a cute little asian girl holding herself cause it was cold..

me: its freezing out here
her: i know
me: how was class?
her: oh it was boring?
me: what subject?
her: anthro
me: i like anthro, are u from hawaii?
her: hawaii? no im burmese
me: i love burmese food, can u make me some coconut rice
her: omg my mom makes the best coconut rice
me: can i come over and eat haha
her: no sorry haha

She wasn't interested.

Next!

--

I see a sexy little filapina walking towards me with a purple streak in hair..

me: hey purple rain
her: hey
me: do u know purple rain?
her: um which one?
me: prince
her: oh ya of course
me: ur the purple girl is that right
her: uh huh ya

She keep walking.

Next!

--

I see a thin, toned, pretty, european girl walking with her bike..

I walk alongside..

me: u look so european
her: i do
me: yes i think so
her: im from hungary
me: i was right
her: yes
me: how long have u been here in california?
her: 2 years

We talked for a minute. She wasn't interested.

Next!

--

Beautiful, young mixed girl, asian and white, cute as a doll.. I walk along side..

me: I love your sweater
her: thank you
me: very chic
her: hehe
me: how was class today?
her: pretty good
me: are you an international student?
her: no im from long beach
me: oh shit haha like snoop dog
her: yes exactly

We talked for a minute but she wasn't interested.

Next!

--

I see a sexy white girl walking thru the dorms in little short shorts.. What a body! Whew!

me: you have awesome legs are you an athlete?
her: I used to be a gymnast actually
me: oh i see, ya that sport really builds the body
her: ya it does
me: your not doing it anymore?
her: no now that im in college i stopped doing it
me: good for you its important to move on to new things
her: ya thats how i feel
me: how long have u been here in the bay area?
her: only about 5 weeks
me: wow

We talked for a few minutes.

I got her number.

She replied but the texting quickly died.

Next!

--

I see a sexy asian with sort of collar around her neck.. I quickly walk over to her..

me: hey i like your collar
her: thanks
me: are you involved in.. you know, that sort of thing
her: what thing?
me: you know, the whole kind of lifestyle or whatever
her: what do you mean?
me: whats it called? like bdsm or something?
her: no im not

Next!

Lol!

--

I see a beautiful young white girl, dirty blond, healthy tan, round ass, radiant..

She has "Jerry Bears" on her shirt..

me: hey jerry bears!

She turns around smiling and faces me..

me: i like your bears
her: oh these
me: did u go to their last show out here?
her: oh no

I dont think she knew what I was talking about but she was smiling.

me: where are u from?
her: san luis obispo
me: oh that place is cool
her: ya i like it up here tho
me: for sure the city is fun
her: ya
me: so whats ur name?
her: bella

She was sweet and sexy and beautiful, but, not interested in giving me her number..

Next!

--

Just another day!

Post: #2405

Impressive Giovanny. I like your attitude. Next!

Post: #2406

I love reading Gio's puts in this thread. I respect your tenacity and confidence immensely sir!

Post: #2407

Have been reading this thread for a while and am definitely very inspired by the 90+ pages of posts.

I'm doing a 30 day talk-to-a-girl exercise. Had already gotten my 1 for the day (directions) and felt like doing more. After the 2nd warmup, I was going to call it quits and head back home when I saw this cute asian girl up on the trail ahead of me.

Day 2, Asian Girl (20's)

I caught up to her and said I liked her graphic converse. She had trouble understanding me at first, but we talked about shoes (my vans vs her converses) and kept walking in the same direction. I said I noticed an accent. She said she was Chinese and that she looked obviously Chinese. I said maybe she was a mix. She self depreciated by saying unfortunately she's all Chinese.

I flipped the game and asked her to guess where I'm from. She was reluctant but there was a fun tension in the guessing game. I prodded her on taking a guess (in a light playful way) and said that I had taken off my sun glasses to make it easier to guess. She complimented me on my eyes and guessed Mexico. I corrected her and she was surprised. We came upon the part of the trail where I had to head away from her. I said we should hangout unless she already has someone in her life. She responded that she has a boyfriend, but she said she was sure we would run into each other. This was one of the more friendly girls that I've run into in the daytime. No attitude whatsoever and she had a great open vibe.

Post: #2408

Quote:While driving, I see a beautiful light skinned black girl in yoga pants, with a statuesque body.. She is walking 3 dogs.

I immediately park my car, cross the street and open her..

me: are you a professional dog walker?
her: haha no these are my dogs
me: nice looking
her: thanks
me: can i ask u something
her: i guess
me: do u date white guys?
her: oh ha im married but thanks im flattered

Next!

--

Driving thru the mall parking lot, a sexy black girl is walking right towards my car..

I stop and roll down my passenger window..

me: u looking for me?
her: are u my uber driver
me: no but i can give u a ride
her: wait what

She walked over to another car, her uber.. I turned my car around and drove up her again..

me: im a normal person i just want to talk to you for a minute
her: ok
me: whats your name?
her: ebony
me: im gio
her: hi
me: i know u gotta go can i text u later
her: sure

She never replied.

Next!

--

I see a pretty white girl wearing all black..

I walk ahead of her on the staircase, as we are exiting, I turn and open her..

me: i love the all black look
her: oh thanks
me: u ever heard of stevie nicks?
her: ya i have fleetwood mac
me: thats right, she had the worlds greatest collection of black clothes, for a girl
her: right
me: i was gonna do an all black day today but decided not to at the last minute
her: haha really

We chatted for a minute, I thought it was going really well.

me: hey u wanna talk again sometime
her: ummm, ill just see u around

Next!

--

I see a cute little asian girl holding herself cause it was cold..

me: its freezing out here
her: i know
me: how was class?
her: oh it was boring?
me: what subject?
her: anthro
me: i like anthro, are u from hawaii?
her: hawaii? no im burmese
me: i love burmese food, can u make me some coconut rice
her: omg my mom makes the best coconut rice
me: can i come over and eat haha
her: no sorry haha

She wasn't interested.

Next!

--

I see a sexy little filapina walking towards me with a purple streak in hair..

me: hey purple rain
her: hey
me: do u know purple rain?
her: um which one?
me: prince
her: oh ya of course
me: ur the purple girl is that right
her: uh huh ya

She keep walking.

Next!

--

I see a thin, toned, pretty, european girl walking with her bike..

I walk alongside..

me: u look so european
her: i do
me: yes i think so
her: im from hungary
me: i was right
her: yes
me: how long have u been here in california?
her: 2 years

We talked for a minute. She wasn't interested.

Next!

--

Beautiful, young mixed girl, asian and white, cute as a doll.. I walk along side..

me: I love your sweater
her: thank you
me: very chic
her: hehe
me: how was class today?
her: pretty good
me: are you an international student?
her: no im from long beach
me: oh shit haha like snoop dog
her: yes exactly

We talked for a minute but she wasn't interested.

Next!

--

I see a sexy white girl walking thru the dorms in little short shorts.. What a body! Whew!

me: you have awesome legs are you an athlete?
her: I used to be a gymnast actually
me: oh i see, ya that sport really builds the body
her: ya it does
me: your not doing it anymore?
her: no now that im in college i stopped doing it
me: good for you its important to move on to new things
her: ya thats how i feel
me: how long have u been here in the bay area?
her: only about 5 weeks
me: wow

We talked for a few minutes.

I got her number.

She replied but the texting quickly died.

Next!

--

I see a sexy asian with sort of collar around her neck.. I quickly walk over to her..

me: hey i like your collar
her: thanks
me: are you involved in.. you know, that sort of thing
her: what thing?
me: you know, the whole kind of lifestyle or whatever
her: what do you mean?
me: whats it called? like bdsm or something?
her: no im not

Next!

Lol!

--

I see a beautiful young white girl, dirty blond, healthy tan, round ass, radiant..

She has "Jerry Bears" on her shirt..

me: hey jerry bears!

She turns around smiling and faces me..

me: i like your bears
her: oh these
me: did u go to their last show out here?
her: oh no

I dont think she knew what I was talking about but she was smiling.

me: where are u from?
her: san luis obispo
me: oh that place is cool
her: ya i like it up here tho
me: for sure the city is fun
her: ya
me: so whats ur name?
her: bella

She was sweet and sexy and beautiful, but, not interested in giving me her number..

Next!

--

Just another day!

Just have to drop in here to say that there is nothing better than reading an approach post by Gio.

Great stuff.

Post: #2409

Awesome approach reports. Gio, yours always entertaining, haha. A lot of people wouldn't cross the street for an approach, but you'd park your car! I have to read this to be more motivated to get out of my comfort zone.

Post: #2410

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Post: #2411

Walked down to my local pub to get some food tonight, it's a quiet night. Stand at the bar to order and an OK looking Brazilian girl stands about 6ft away, waiting. I ramp up the Alpha as I order, deeper voice/animated/direct/cocky joking with the bar lady.
I look at the Brazilian and she holds eye contact, longer than I expected so I maintain but give a little nod of the head, not really flirty though, kind of like you would as respect to a guy that holds eye contact and doesn't look down.

Anyway, I hear her order 2 steaks and a bottle of wine so i figure she's with a guy.
I set myself down and just watch her, she looks over and eyes me 3 times before going off to her table. I decide to take a walk down her end to the toilets to look at the guy who's girl is givinv me the eye. Turns out she's with a friend.

Iv not long separated from my wife so apart from a shit online date, it's my first approach.
Walk past them on way out of toilet, she looks at me again, I stop.
Me: where are you from?
Her: Brazil
Me: are you studying here?
Her: no I'm working, whats your name?
**All fluttering eye lids, flush cheeks, coy head tilt, touching neck**
Me: SB, what's yours blah blah.... Can i have your number.?
Her: yes it's blah blah.
Me: ok I'll text you.

Go and sit and eat my dinner, and wonder if she's DTF so I text asking if she wants a drink at mine later?

No answer so I finish and walk (30 seconds) back to my flat.

Then she replies : Sorry I have to go home soon, but do you like to join my friend and I for a drink?

I walk back to the pub and pull up a chair, spend 30 mins chatting, then she admits she has missed her train, and asks if I'll wait with her outside until a cab comes.
Her friend leaves and I say il give her a lift the 3 miles to hers.
We go up to my flat to get my car keys and I dont know why, I just didn't think to try and get her to stay for a while! I just had it in my head that I was taking her home. We left and I get some kissing as I drop her off but she grabbed my hand firmly when i ran it down the back of her thigh. I get the feeling she has put me into boyfriend category and will now try and slow things down, have to work on avoiding my nice guy tendencies in future!

Post: #2412

(10-13-2015 05:43 PM)SuperBock Wrote:  Walked down to my local pub to get some food tonight, it's a quiet night. Stand at the bar to order and an OK looking Brazilian girl stands about 6ft away, waiting. I ramp up the Alpha as I order, deeper voice/animated/direct/cocky joking with the bar lady.
I look at the Brazilian and she holds eye contact, longer than I expected so I maintain but give a little nod of the head, not really flirty though, kind of like you would as respect to a guy that holds eye contact and doesn't look down.

Anyway, I hear her order 2 steaks and a bottle of wine so i figure she's with a guy.
I set myself down and just watch her, she looks over and eyes me 3 times before going off to her table. I decide to take a walk down her end to the toilets to look at the guy who's girl is givinv me the eye. Turns out she's with a friend.

Iv not long separated from my wife so apart from a shit online date, it's my first approach.
Walk past them on way out of toilet, she looks at me again, I stop.
Me: where are you from?
Her: Brazil
Me: are you studying here?
Her: no I'm working, whats your name?
**All fluttering eye lids, flush cheeks, coy head tilt, touching neck**
Me: SB, what's yours blah blah.... Can i have your number.?
Her: yes it's blah blah.
Me: ok I'll text you.

Go and sit and eat my dinner, and wonder if she's DTF so I text asking if she wants a drink at mine later?

No answer so I finish and walk (30 seconds) back to my flat.

Then she replies : Sorry I have to go home soon, but do you like to join my friend and I for a drink?

I walk back to the pub and pull up a chair, spend 30 mins chatting, then she admits she has missed her train, and asks if I'll wait with her outside until a cab comes.
Her friend leaves and I say il give her a lift the 3 miles to hers.
We go up to my flat to get my car keys and I dont know why, I just didn't think to try and get her to stay for a while! I just had it in my head that I was taking her home. We left and I get some kissing as I drop her off but she grabbed my hand firmly when i ran it down the back of her thigh. I get the feeling she has put me into boyfriend category and will now try and slow things down, have to work on avoiding my nice guy tendencies in future!

Ya if she came up with you she was probably down. Then again I don't know about Brazilians.

Anyway welcome back to the game.

Post: #2413

I've been having my most success lately approaching women in stores, though I've done a little 'campus game'

The last few weeks:

A hot athletic blonde...late 20s early 30s in grocery. I siddle up to her and ask about some item she's looking at.
Her: blah blah.
Me: (asking more questions about the item)
She tells me.
Me: I detect a little accent. Are you from this area?
Her: No, I'm from yada yada.
The conversation was going good for about 5 minutes. Eye contact, hair flicking
Me: So what brought you to this city?
Her: well, my husband and I moved here because blah blah.
She said this kind of low. I don't know if she was not wanting to bring him up that much or what, but at that point I got disappointed.
I chatted her up another 30 seconds and told her nice to meet you.
When I was leaving the parking garage she saw me driving out and glanced over a few times.

Last week on a local campus: I see a cute blonde walking toward me with yoga pants. As I'm walking past her:
Me: Excuse me, do you know where the law school is?
Her: thinks a second, then starts to explain but doesn't seem sure.
Me: I'm not sure if it's this side of campus or the other.
Her" I think it's the other.
Me: Okay, well, my friend's in grad school and he's waiting for me to meet him.
She pulls up some app on her phone and starts giving me directions.
Me: So, you must not be a freshman?
Her: No, I'm a senior.
I bust her balls a little about being a senior but still not knowing her way around campus. She laughs.
Me: I think you have a little accent, you must be from somewhere else.
Her: Yes Im from ( I forget)
Me: oh cool, I've got a good friend from there ( light high five which she accepts and giggles a little )
Me: So, why'd you pick this school?
She talks about her major ( sports journalism ) for a bit . I ask questions.
Me: yeah, I just moved here so I'm figuring the area out.
Her: Where from?
I tell her. I ask her more about fun things to do in town which she tells.
I ask her name and tell her it's nice to meet her. She asks my name and I tell her.
Me: Hey, I'm in town a few more weeks, could I invite you out for coffee or a drink one day?
Her: Well, I'm taking like 18 hours....
Me: We'll pick a day when you're pretty free.
Her:Ok
Got the number.
I texted her that night and she texted back within a minute.
I texted her after the weekend and no response.

I approached a few girls in the grocery but they quickly told me about the item and kind of walked off. They were mostly polite but just said something like "good luck on that"

I also approached a very attractive light skinned black girl who lives in my apartments. I had seen her before and we'd made eye contact. She's got an extremely fit, almost olympic body.

She had just finished a bike ride and was sweaty and ready to get back in the building as I was walking down the sidewalk outside. I kept her talking even though I could tell she wanted to go because she was so attractive.

She did ask me a number of questions about myself so I went for the number after about 5 minutes. She said "well I don't really 'go out'" I said,we could just grab a coffee or tea one day and she agreed. I got the number. I texted her a few hours later and no response.

Yesterday:
I was following a good looking young blonde down the main part of the store as I was on my way to check out. I was thinking of talking to her if she stopped to check out an item. ( I swear 6:00 pm to 7:00 pm is the best time in grocery stores for some reason....I would think it would be closer to 5 p.m.....like 5: 30 to 6 or something since most people get off work at 5 pm, but whatever ) Then, I looked down an aisle and saw an even more attractive blonde/auburn haired girl checking out some stuff. I noticed her nice legs below her dress. I veered off down the aisle toward her.

I stood next to her and picked the same item off the shelf she was looking at ( wine stoppers to keep wine fresh)
Me: Do these things work good?
Her: I don't know, they claim to.
Me: I have a friend who has this kind ( I grabbed it ) that pumps the air out. (I explained how it worked to keep wine fresh)
She seemed impressed and didn't really realize it was oxidation that caused wine to go bad ( Haha!)
She was only making brief eye contact and seemed shy.
Me: So, you've got a little accent, I think you'e from somewhere else.
Her; Yes, I'm from California.
we talked about that a minute or so.
I asked her what she does and when she told me she was in nursing school, I did a light high five which she accepted ( I always look for an excuse to touch them and engage touch as girls remember that more than words)
Her eye contact got more.
She asked me what I did and I told her.
I asked her about fun things to do around town and she told me some stuff.
We taked a good 6 or 7 minutes. I told her it was nice to meet her and that I had to run. We were both sort of smiling looking at each other.
Me: I'd like to invite you out sometime for coffee or maybe a drink?
Her: Sure.
Got the number. Texted her a few hours later. She took almost 3 hours to respond but it was a good lively message. I'm going to message her later in the week and go for a date.

Today at the grocery. I arrive at the same time....about 6.15 pm. I see a good bit of girls walking through the store. I look down an aisle and see an attractive tan young brunette girl looking at peanut butters ( perfect! )
I go down next to her and grab a peanut butter. She studying a jar of one in her hand.
Me: Is that good almond butter?
Her: No
Me; oh...it's not?
Her: Did you ask me if this is almond butter?
Me; well, I asked if it was good or not.
I had good energy and was giving her warm eye contact with a slight smile. I was being a bit forward with my eye contact and smiling, openly flirting. She had big beautiful hazel eyes and was returning my look. We chatted about different kinds of butters for a minute or two.
Me: You have an accent as if you're not from here.
Her: I'm from Iowa.
Me: nice, when I think of Iowa, I think of huge corn fields and cold winters.
Her: yes, that's pretty much true. There's not much to do there.
we talked about that a minute. She asked where I was from. I asked her name and shook her hand and she asked my name.
We chatted another minute or so and the eye contact was good with smiling.
Me: Well, I need to run, but it was nice to talk with you.
Her: Nice to talk with you too.
Me: Can I invite you out sometime for a coffee or drink?
Her: Yeah.
Got the number. I shook her hand again and reminded me of my name and told her we could do something in a few days.
I texted her a few hours later and she texted me after about 35 minutes back.

A few good days of day gaming. We'll see how the date setting process and dates themselves go.

Post: #2414

Showed up to my work at the mall an hour early for a meeting and got done early so I decided to stroll around.

19 y/o Latina HB7 with golden streaks in her hair and cute business attire

I saw her sitting on the bench about 10 meters ahead of me. I assumed she was an employee because the mall didn't open for another hour.

We make eye contact as I walk by, she looks up and smiles warmly. I stop.

HTB: Where do you work?
Girl: Im supposed to be at Vicotria's Secret for an interview, but no one is here!
HTB:Oh I guess they don't want you to work there
Girl: giggles, yeah, right? And where do you work?
HTB: Tells her place of work while inserting a joke about it. We make introductions, I shake her hand

Fellow store owner walks by and says whats up and gives me a little social proof. Thanks G.

HTB: Damn so they called you up for an interview and left you hanging like that?
Girl: yeah Im gonna leave in 5 mins blah blah
HTB: Just walk up and bang on their outer doors *animated banging motion*, be like "EY motherfuckers, you gonna hire me or what?!"
Girl: Giggles more Yeah I totally should
HTB: Well I have to go make my bank deposit, but it was nice meeting you. shake her hand again
Girl: Yeah, you too
HTB: Do you want to exchange numbers? So if you do get hired maybe we can grab a drink during lunch sometime?
Girl: Yeah sure

My cell phone was recently broken so I had to have her write it on my hand like it was the 80's. Still it felt good to get out of a funk and break into the swing of things again.

Post: #2415

Currently, my #1 problem is bailing on the chats early . . .

Out in front of the University lounge I spot a stunning Hispanic stroll toward the entrance. Very cute face with glasses magnifying her dark eyes, long brown hair, narrow waist, wide hips and a big ass blatantly showcased in a tight cotton gray skirt. Naturally I stall on opening her head-on, but I've recently been trying to gravitate back toward a more indirect style, so I let her pass and scope out where she's heading.

She takes a high round table, and shortly after, I take the one next to her. Using the consistently workable "Is that a good phone?" opener, I'm able to pry her attention from the papers spread amongst the table as we toss a few lines back and forth about the dynamic changes in portable technology.

Even though she was giving me snippets of info to use in order to keep the chat rolling, along with solid eye-contact and smiles, my stalling ramble fueled a pessimistic attitude on my part, figuring that she's having none of my antics. When I would stall, she would immediately bury herself back into her work, and I'd revive the chat momentarily.

After a few minutes of such, I get the fuck up and leave, thanking her for the info. One would think I'd know better by now. She was so beautiful, it just messed me up. Until it's obvious that the interaction is over, keep talking. She never said she was busy or got up and left, or whatever. And she's certainly not going to beckon you to continue talking.

Let her figure out whether or not she wants to get to know you, don't decide that for her! She'll put out a readable sign that it's over and only then is disembarking appropriate. Geez.

Post: #2416

Mess O.
Totally in agreement with you. I had a conversation about fruit juices today but bailed to early.
Me: Excuse me, is this a good juice?
Her: I don't know much about juices.
M: But this one says its not from concentrate. What does that mean?
H: I think its a different type of juice.
M: Which one is better? There are so many types to choose from.
H: I don't really know.
(Not really making eye contact...but not walking away.)

I said thanks and she smiled a bit and said no problem.

Postives:/
I did much better with my tone of voice and facial expressions this time. I really slowed my speech down and didn't smile. Instead I had a slightly confused look on my face.

Points to work on:
Stick with it and ramble more. She was quite reserved and not giving me much to work with, but I needed more talk about the food product. Next time, I'm going to read an article about food before I go shopping so I have more talking points.

Post: #2417

We keep on rollin'.

Post: #2418

(10-17-2015 11:29 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Currently, my #1 problem is bailing on the chats early . . .

Out in front of the University lounge I spot a stunning Hispanic stroll toward the entrance. Very cute face with glasses magnifying her dark eyes, long brown hair, narrow waist, wide hips and a big ass blatantly showcased in a tight cotton gray skirt. Naturally I stall on opening her head-on, but I've recently been trying to gravitate back toward a more indirect style, so I let her pass and scope out where she's heading.

She takes a high round table, and shortly after, I take the one next to her. Using the consistently workable "Is that a good phone?" opener, I'm able to pry her attention from the papers spread amongst the table as we toss a few lines back and forth about the dynamic changes in portable technology.

Even though she was giving me snippets of info to use in order to keep the chat rolling, along with solid eye-contact and smiles, my stalling ramble fueled a pessimistic attitude on my part, figuring that she's having none of my antics. When I would stall, she would immediately bury herself back into her work, and I'd revive the chat momentarily.

After a few minutes of such, I get the fuck up and leave, thanking her for the info. One would think I'd know better by now. She was so beautiful, it just messed me up. Until it's obvious that the interaction is over, keep talking. She never said she was busy or got up and left, or whatever. And she's certainly not going to beckon you to continue talking.

Let her figure out whether or not she wants to get to know you, don't decide that for her! She'll put out a readable sign that it's over and only then is disembarking appropriate. Geez.

(Attractive) girls DO know why we talk to them when there is no obvious agenda (she's your boss, she's your client, etc.). When it's not obvious, they will anyway assume why we talk to them - aka "do you want some dick?" If they wouldn't get it, then these subgroup are idiots and who wants a girl like that, anyway?

No harm in starting with a neutral topic but you need to transition at some point and give her a reason why you talked to her in first place. No (attractive) girl will believe you talk to her for the sake of becoming "phone buddies". It takes some balls to accept one will be told "I'm not interested and take it". However, mentally, it takes big brass balls - but not to chat a up girl or two (or god knows how many) but to withstand the blow to one's self-esteem when told no (many times).

So, let's go back to a reason - a clear, verbal indication that a girl can't miss. For example, my mate has a penchant for a dramatic "coming out" during the conversation. He goes with innocuous chat (just like yours about something) but he'll force a girl to decide whether she's in (win for him and green light to escalate) or she's out (win for him because he doesn't waste time) by saying this: "You know what, actually I don't give a fuck about X, I just wanted to talk to you because of Y", where X is this neutral thing (like the phone for you) and where Y is a justification statement, such as "big green eyes" or "you seemed interesting".

Obviously, this has limitations but in game parlance this would come under section of "validating the girl" who "passed a test" so you decide to pursue it further because "she's different" from other girls in some relevant respect. I'd recommend, if decided to use this line, to not skip the "don't give a fuck". Using an expletive indicates even more you don't care and shows a little bit of a badboy attitude and, as we know it, chicks digs guys like that.

Post: #2419

Interesting. I'd been wondering about the possible effectiveness of the "X & Y" route you've mentioned here - I don't think I've tried it yet, out of a desire to maintain the congruency of the chat. On the one hand, yeah, of course she's pretty damn sure as to what this is really all about - and yes, especially if she's blatantly attractive, but the way I've been researching it, the inherently indirect route is all about prolonging that initial topic until a natural seguing can be achieved, lest one "blows the cover" off of the play. But indeed, your fella is employing a different strategy. It seems that he's opting to build the connection more prominently through his medium, as opposed to his message.

I've been doing a fair amount of experimentation along the full spectrum, however I definitely need to expand even further in terms of achieving not only a higher volume of approaches, but ultimately better quality interactions.

Post: #2420

In that spirit . . . today I pulled a solid approach on campus. Up ahead of me on the pathway I see a long-haired Asian wearing a white tank and an ankle-length tan skirt (which is what really drew me in). As she sits down at a bench, I'm thinkin' that this is just being handed to me, so I head on over. She had a somewhat dark complexion, long legs and full breasts, though it looked like her top might've been "fortified" a bit.

A made a remark about the weather, and she seemed very receptive from the start, and so, from that initial topic, I was able to easily toss a wealth of different stuff between us, much of which was based on the many questions she presented to me. As I snuck a few looks at her body, I noted how she was pretty extensively tattooed, including one behind the ear - which I find to be markedly detestable - but the overall caliber of her attractiveness counterweighed that undesirable attribute.

At some point, when we were talking about training in the gym, the boyfriend material came up - he's trying to teach her deadlifts - and so, when that business arises, I routinely either brush past it and roll with the chat, or maybe include him in it for a line or two, unfazed by such a revelation.

We seemed to have a lot in common, and I was able to snag her stylish business card, as she's an aspiring club-promoter or some such thing. She appeared fairly enthusiastic about doing a lunch meet . . . upon her return from an upcoming trip to Miami for a bachlorette party. --snort--

Post: #2421

Since hitting my new university, I've been trying to approach every day or every other day. So far I've done between 30-40 day approaches, supplemented with Tinder. I've banged one Ethiopian girl and one Fijian girl, fingerblasted two Indian girls, and gotten head from one bisexual Filipina. I've found that women here are extremely cliquey and standoffish at night, making daygame and online the best ways to meet them. I'm going to start using this thread as my approach diary.

Today I approached four girls and got numbers from two of them.

Girl 1: Cute black girl with curls and a nice body. Saw her doing some dance moves by herself while listening to music. Asked for directions to some building(my traditional opener), bullshitted about directions for a bit, asked if she forsure knew her way around. She laughed a little, said yes. I teased her a bit about being a freshman, asked her why she was randomly dancing in the middle of the quad. Turns out she's a dance major, and she randomly breaks out into dance out of instinct. Finished by saying "you're cute, let me get your number". Got the number, not sure if I'll get a text back.

Girl 2: Okay-looking Indian girl. Bullshitted about directions, just got straight answers and not much interest. Ejected after a minute, conversation wasn't going anywhere.

Girl 3: Better-looking Indian girl, but the conversation was similarly shitty. She was walking away the entire time.

Girl 4: Cute black girl, not as hot as the dancer. Asked for directions to a coffee place, she ended up walking me all the way there. Made bullshit small talk, asked her about her life. She asked me why I transferred out of my old school, had a conversation about that. Again, closed with the "I know this is a little weird, but you're cute, let me get your number". Got the number, but I'm again not too sure if I'll get a text back.

I feel like my biggest sticking point is that I'm only going for attractive dark-skinned women, which narrows down my dating pool somewhat. I seem to have lost all attraction for white and Asian women, to the point where I only feel motivated to approach one or two per week...a lot of the hotter white girls here are in top sororities, and come off as total ice queens. I love black and brown women, but if I exclusively approach them, I run the risk of approaching literally all of the hot ones. Bit of a dilemma for me, since I rarely find Asian girls that I'm genuinely attracted to, and I rarely meet white girls whose personalities I can stand for more than thirty seconds.

Post: #2422

^ Don't give in. Once you have work, grad school, and so on to contend with unless you start a successful business and retire early you won't have better access with the amount of time again. You don't have to lie or play games. You are about as high on the social order for a freshman girl as it gets in life. You can just be direct without bullshit.

Ice queens, over farming dark skin girls - fuck it after you leave that campus it will be a distant memory. Such a great place to build a solid base of game though. Make a mission to approach 30 underclass sorority ice queens I bet you will bang one at least. I'd say that's worth it. Do it just because it is difficult.

Those bangs are the ones that really permanently up your inner game. The regular ones you usually go for are nice but over the long run they don't add to your total confidence as much.

Post: #2423

(10-20-2015 07:02 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ Don't give in. Once you have work, grad school, and so on to contend with unless you start a successful business and retire early you won't have better access with the amount of time again. You don't have to lie or play games. You are about as high on the social order for a freshman girl as it gets in life. You can just be direct without bullshit.

Ice queens, over farming dark skin girls - fuck it after you leave that campus it will be a distant memory. Such a great place to build a solid base of game though. Make a mission to approach 30 underclass sorority ice queens I bet you will bang one at least. I'd say that's worth it. Do it just because it is difficult.

Those bangs are the ones that really permanently up your inner game. The regular ones you usually go for are nice but over the long run they don't add to your total confidence as much.

You have a point. I've been going for a demographic of girls that I know really like me, and this doesn't test my game very much at all. I literally have five minute conversations with these girls, then call them to my room to smoke and caveman once they're there. It works great, but I don't really feel like it involves much skill at all...and yeah, banging black girls is fun, but I don't really feel like the process tests me in any way.

The hotter white girls are problematic for me, though...I genuinely can't stand most of them. They're a little different here than in UCSB; in UCSB I met plenty who were cool, mellow people, but a lot of them here have princess syndrome to the extreme. I don't doubt that I can bang one if approach enough, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to motivate myself enough to put up with them. What I love about black and Indian girls is that they frequently make great fuck buddies, and I don't mind actually spending time with them. The vibe I get from the hotter white girls is simply off-putting and unattractive.

I definitely will broaden my net and try to talk more unconventional types of women, though. Thanks for the advice.

Post: #2424

This morning I was at the line at a cafe when a girl came and stood behind me. After a bit of hesitation I looked back. Was a cute girl with blue eyes.

Do you come here often.
Actually I've been here only a few times.
Me too actually.Do you work here.
No I'm a student. What about you.
I work for blah blah

The title of my job made her laugh.
Wat do you study?
Finance.

Then it was my turn to order. After ordering I sat at a table next to the counter. She went and sat at table a bit far away, smiling at me on her way. A bit later a girl joined her. After finishing my bagel I told myself you only live twice (before knowing you live only once and after) so on my way out went to their table and told her if she was interested to get to know a man who does blah blah (my vocation). She smiled and throw the boyfriend out. I wasn't annoyed at all.

Should I have stayed by her and rambled as she was ordering? Admittedly my talking wasn't good enough, not funny enough (like I could've joked about her becoming the wolf of wall street after getting her degree) or baiting enough.


On the way home I went to an organic shop near where I live. There was a cute girl working there and I, inspired by posts on this thread, had planed for silent acquisition. Now she wasn't there BUT another one, a 10! Tall and cute with wavy blond hair. Asked her if she was new in the shop. There was an old lady behind me in the line standing to my right but fortunately the credit card reader was slow enough for another cashier to become vacant. I put the phone on the counter with something like "girl wearing big glasses" in the name field. I almost got an erection as she tapped her number! A few months ago I wouldn't even dare to do something like this. Got a bit nervous when she handed me my phone and said "have a nice day".

My text game is not so good. I guess I shoot her a line tonight or in the morning.

Post: #2425

Texted her about an hour and a half after getting her number with an "Are you new to the area" but got no response. I don't know maybe she thought I asked her the same question I asked in the store, or maybe just not interested. Don't know how to behave when I go to the store again.