Post: #3026

(12-22-2014 02:42 PM)Fury Wrote:  Odd dilemma. I matched with a handful of women before I left the country (Netherlands)for a six week holiday. Knowing that I cannot meet up with them until early February, should I still send a message to establish a connection? Or would the long wait before the first meet up be detrimental?

I would wait until February. They're gonna be around. Don't run game when you can't physically deliver. Tinder girls move on very quickly.

If you can't see them, don't message. The slow burn doesn't work for Tinder in most cases.

When you message Tinder girls, it should be with the intention of meeting them that weekend or the next. I'm sure there are exceptions but remember, we are talking about a girl on an app swarming with hungry dudes. Unless your text game is sharp as fuck (and even then), I can't see you holding interest in a girl from now till February without seeing her.

Post: #3027

Guys, question for you. Is tinder possible if you have no Facebook?

I know I can just make a random one but from what I know it shows common friends and interests. How do I pull off using this app if I've never had a fb?

Post: #3028

(12-22-2014 11:05 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  Guys, question for you. Is tinder possible if you have no Facebook?

I know I can just make a random one but from what I know it shows common friends and interests. How do I pull off using this app if I've never had a fb?

I say create a fake Facebook. Just keep adding people to you get to 50 (I think this is the requirement). They don't really have to be people you know.

Unfortunately you can't use Tinder at all without Facebook. Helps to curb the spam accounts but even that doesn't seem to stop them.

Post: #3029

(12-22-2014 11:54 PM)tallandblonde Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:05 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  Guys, question for you. Is tinder possible if you have no Facebook?

I know I can just make a random one but from what I know it shows common friends and interests. How do I pull off using this app if I've never had a fb?

I say create a fake Facebook. Just keep adding people to you get to 50 (I think this is the requirement). They don't really have to be people you know.

Unfortunately you can't use Tinder at all without Facebook. Helps to curb the spam accounts but even that doesn't seem to stop them.

I don't have any friends on my fake fb and tinder works fine.

Post: #3030

Super basic tip for guys in a major city but I think it's relevant. Say in your profile that you are in the city for a week. This automatically screens for the DTF girls.

My pictures are largely adventurous photos(skydiving, piloting a plane, walking on a catwalk) which lends to the man of mystery narrative.

Post: #3031

How are people's experiences of using Tinder in the UK - outside of London - these days? Can anybody weigh in...anybody getting good traction? Most of my matches have been bots so far...

Edit: I have my age set to 28. Perhaps that's too old already for tinder? I could maybe try for 26, not sure if I can get away with that looks wise.

Post: #3032

(12-25-2014 05:43 AM)Espresso Wrote:  How are people's experiences of using Tinder in the UK - outside of London - these days? Can anybody weigh in...anybody getting good traction? Most of my matches have been bots so far...

Edit: I have my age set to 28. Perhaps that's too old already for tinder? I could maybe try for 26, not sure if I can get away with that looks wise.

I got less matches at 'age' 30 than 29, give it a go, women will believe whatever if they like you. I was getting at least 1 date a week from it.

Age just gets you past the initial filters. You need an excellent first picture and a good selection of others. I had my height and some bait comments in my profile, and a consistent set of messages that I could copy and paste.

Don't get too involved until you've got the girl out.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #3033

(12-25-2014 05:43 AM)Espresso Wrote:  How are people's experiences of using Tinder in the UK - outside of London - these days? Can anybody weigh in...anybody getting good traction? Most of my matches have been bots so far...

Edit: I have my age set to 28. Perhaps that's too old already for tinder? I could maybe try for 26, not sure if I can get away with that looks wise.

The thirst is real, lets just put it that way.

Manc, leeds, Birmingham are good. Its mainly bored single mothers. A single woman with no kids is a fucking pain in the arse I can tell you. All the single younger girls in the 18-26 range want guys at or near to their own age.

Personally Tinder is very good but if you want younger girls in a steady stream you need to get out and run game. Tinder just screens you too hard.

Faking your age to late 20s is good too for younger girls.

Post: #3034

(12-25-2014 11:03 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(12-25-2014 05:43 AM)Espresso Wrote:  How are people's experiences of using Tinder in the UK - outside of London - these days? Can anybody weigh in...anybody getting good traction? Most of my matches have been bots so far...

Edit: I have my age set to 28. Perhaps that's too old already for tinder? I could maybe try for 26, not sure if I can get away with that looks wise.

The thirst is real, lets just put it that way.

Manc, leeds, Birmingham are good. Its mainly bored single mothers. A single woman with no kids is a fucking pain in the arse I can tell you. All the single younger girls in the 18-26 range want guys at or near to their own age.

Personally Tinder is very good but if you want younger girls in a steady stream you need to get out and run game. Tinder just screens you too hard.

Faking your age to late 20s is good too for younger girls.

Yeah that's the other thing I've immediately noticed here - the amount of single mothers using tinder. Often holding a baby in one of the pictures, or even a separate picture of their baby!

Might try lowering my age a bit, and maybe getting a new facebook account in case I got blacklisted for mass-liking in the past.

Post: #3035

You will find less fuck ups in the lifestyle department on Tinder. OKC is the dumping ground for them and I rarely see those types.

The girls who identify as some fifth gender stereotype who hate men but secretly want dick o the sly are all over OKC and Tinder is left alone. For now.

I have no idea about London but I have heard a lot of gays and trannies using it with catfish pictures or glammed up photo's of themselves.

Post: #3036

Quick question. Does Tinder blacklist your account if you use Tinderly for mass liking? I'm already at a disadvantage due to "uncontrollabe circumstances", so I'd rather not waste my time liking bitches manually who auto-swiped left at the sight of my face. And as of late, the only matches I get are bots.

Post: #3037

Post: #3038

Something I run into is a large amount of younger women who are very reluctant to give out their number. I have to run something like comfort/rambling/daygame on them for a while before they deem me "safe" enough for it, and then it takes a while before I can get them on a date. Has anyone else run into this issue?

1. These chicks are almost always between 18 and 22, usually at the younger end of this spectrum.

2. They're beautiful, but the pics are not "slutty"

3. Fewer bodyshots, more face pictures.

Perhaps these girls are on Tinder more for attention than company, or they're part of the female population that's not on the level of the experienced Tindergurl on open-leggedness?

Anyone go tany experiences or tips on how to move things faster with these chicks? ABC seems to work, but only after several tried and too much fucking time(or maybe my game is just too loose).

Post: #3039

If you could estimate, how many girls do you swipe right on to get a match? I'm finding it takes me a lot of right swipes to get a match, but then again I've been very selective (no mass liking).

I could go day game right now and get an instant date in less than 5 approaches, but it's taking way more than 5 to get a match on Tinder, even though I'm in the same city. I'm trying to "adapt" to these apps, since more girls are getting on it, but my online results can't come close to matching my real life results.

Does anyone get better results on Tinder than regular gaming? I find this hard to believe, unless your photos are unrealistically better than how you appear in real life.

Post: #3040

(12-28-2014 11:33 AM)Roosh Wrote:  If you could estimate, how many girls do you swipe right on to get a match? I'm finding it takes me a lot of right swipes to get a match, but then again I've been very selective (no mass liking).

I could go day game right now and get an instant date in less than 5 approaches, but it's taking way more than 5 to get a match on Tinder, even though I'm in the same city. I'm trying to "adapt" to these apps, since more girls are getting on it, but my online results can't come close to matching my real life results.

Does anyone get better results on Tinder than regular gaming? I find this hard to believe, unless your photos are unrealistically better than how you appear in real life.

It depends completely on what you look like and where you are. To get comparable numbers you have to ask guys who are in the same place. The tinder population has massive turnover so even a guy in your location 6 months ago who looks like you will have a different experience.

Post: #3041

Philippines - 1 or 2, Being picky
Home - 60+? (minus the bots) Swiping everything

Post: #3042

(12-28-2014 02:46 AM)Merris Wrote:  Something I run into is a large amount of younger women who are very reluctant to give out their number. I have to run something like comfort/rambling/daygame on them for a while before they deem me "safe" enough for it, and then it takes a while before I can get them on a date. Has anyone else run into this issue?

1. These chicks are almost always between 18 and 22, usually at the younger end of this spectrum.

2. They're beautiful, but the pics are not "slutty"

3. Fewer bodyshots, more face pictures.

Perhaps these girls are on Tinder more for attention than company, or they're part of the female population that's not on the level of the experienced Tindergurl on open-leggedness?

Anyone go tany experiences or tips on how to move things faster with these chicks? ABC seems to work, but only after several tried and too much fucking time(or maybe my game is just too loose).

You should probably just next them. Difficult girls stay difficult.

Post: #3043

(12-28-2014 12:01 PM)bigbait Wrote:  Difficult girls stay difficult.

Sometimes, someone posts something so simple, that we know is true, but it hits you on the head. Thanks.

Post: #3044

I feel like younger girls give out their number much easier than older chicks (out of highscool)

I've got good pics of myself partying, traveling, and one suited up. There's a decent percentage of girls who actually look at what you have to say. So I have my career, my size (a plus), and stuff about traveling.

You guys gotta sell these younger girls a dream. It's not about what you think is cool but what they think is cool.

I'm having limited sucess with girls out of college. I've only gotten one bang from a girl 25+.

Edit: I wrote this and it let me to believe that some of you guys are in higher competition arenas. Maybe a guy like me is an an area with low compeition so there I stick out.

And to be honest Tinderbis a low percentage game. If you get the number from 30-50% of the girls you match then call it a win

Post: #3045

(12-28-2014 11:33 AM)Roosh Wrote:  If you could estimate, how many girls do you swipe right on to get a match? I'm finding it takes me a lot of right swipes to get a match, but then again I've been very selective (no mass liking).

I could go day game right now and get an instant date in less than 5 approaches, but it's taking way more than 5 to get a match on Tinder, even though I'm in the same city. I'm trying to "adapt" to these apps, since more girls are getting on it, but my online results can't come close to matching my real life results.

Does anyone get better results on Tinder than regular gaming? I find this hard to believe, unless your photos are unrealistically better than how you appear in real life.

I find that deleting the account then recreating it will make you pop up first on the girls' screens.

Another potential issue could be that your city is played out, which is the case for a lot of the world sadly. I regret never being able to dominate tinder really, with the exception of late 2013 when it was so much easier and the girls weren't so creeped out.

I was just in Jakarta - a city which everyone praised on here for Tinder - and the quality was average and the hotties were already such attention-whores. Daygame always will yield better results, although there's nothing quite like setting up a date while in the office.

Post: #3046

(12-28-2014 11:33 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Does anyone get better results on Tinder than regular gaming?

This is a trick question.

I get different results on Tinder than regular gaming.

When you game on the street, you are leveraging emotional attraction.

When you use Tinder, you are leveraging physical attraction. Game is secondary.

To bang an 8 on Tinder, you have to be an 8 or higher; no exceptions. Tinder is a marketplace and physical appearance is the only currency. Nobody beats the market. You can increase your volume but you'll never trade 1 blue widget for 2 blue widgets.

But on the street...that is where the game is played. That's why you can get a date in 5 approaches or less with a girl who wouldn't have matched you on Tinder. You're not relying on leveraging 1 single asset, but rather an entire arsenal of finely tuned weapons: vibe, style, confidence, tone of voice, presence, look, body language, the look in your eyes, and, of course, your game. None of those things come into play when a girl first sees your photo on Tinder.

Post: #3047

I'm still swiping, over 300 and nobody I'd want to fuck. Maybe it's time to start looking at more than the main picture, they look good there and then lose points on the others.

Post: #3048

@Merris. I have encountered some girls with this attitude. Regardless of the cause, which you will never know for sure, next them. If a girl is reluctant to give you her number, you can bet she doesn't want to fuck you.

Probable causes are: they only use the app when bored, are attention-whores, are already creeped by other dudes or, at best, are shy.

Post: #3049

I've tried different types of messages and matches don't always reply to the first one. Is that common?

Post: #3050

(12-29-2014 05:13 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I've tried different types of messages and matches don't always reply to the first one. Is that common?

Yes, the girls are getting gamed by every single beta orbiter in the world that has game because he is hiding behind a screen. They will only respond if you are at the top of their list in terms of looks.

I don't get why they aren't just more selective because every guy will swipe right to the hotties. I guess it's like how I felt in BKK when every girl matched me and I just couldn't handle the volume. Tinder was so much better in 2013.

BTW I've just downloaded Hinge, which has much better quality, although I'm not sure of how well it will work internationally.