Post: #1

From the NY Times:

Quote:One police officer was killed and another was left critically injured after they were shot in a patrol car in Brooklyn on Saturday afternoon, the authorities said.

The shooting took place near Myrtle and Tompkins Avenues in Bedford-Stuyvesant.

“It looks like they were shot in the upper body,” Deputy Chief Kim Royster said.

She said that a suspect fled into a subway station after shooting the two officers from the patrol car’s passenger side, and that the police had recovered a gun from the scene.

Fire Department officials confirmed that a 911 call came in around 2:50 p.m. reporting that two people had been shot.

Charlie Hu, the manager of a liquor store at the same corner, said he saw two police officers slouched over in the front seat of their patrol car. At least one of the officers, Mr. Hu said, appeared to have been shot in the head.

Multiple sources now report both officers dead.

This is an absolute shame to hear and should be a national outrage.
Of course, in America, respecting police officers is not "in" or popular, so I don't expect much.

Post: #2

Fuck the police coming straight from the underground...

Post: #3

I imagine there will be three to four press days of coverage and not just because of the holidays. No one cares.

Post: #4

I predicted this in a previous post. I'm calling it now: there will be retaliatory responses by police officers, leading to more violent retaliatory responses by unhinged people like this one.

It is disgusting that (in all probability, perfectly good) cops had to lose their lives because of the actions of a few abusers of power and those of a nutjob, but it's also entirely predictable.

Post: #5

I wonder if police officers may start to refuse to police predominately black neighbourhoods. The chances of something going wrong and the political backlash that follows, could be a possible solution in the future.

Post: #6

(12-20-2014 05:48 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I wonder if police officers may start to refuse to police predominately black neighbourhoods. The chances of something going wrong and the political backlash that follows, could be a possible solution in the future.

Black?!

This was in Brooklyn. The place is not only white now, it's very very white. It's like Ivory Snow and the winter snow mixed together. Its like white out and typing paper.

Word on the street is that a couple of Brooklynite artiste hipsters snapped and went on a shooting spree because they're decaf lattes contained, er, caf.

They've already gotten the police artist to sketch one of the perps and he looks a little like this:

Post: #7

Some early indications from press outlets that it could indeed be a "revenge shooting" for Michael Brown and Eric Garner.
This is going to get really ugly over the next couple of days.

Post: #8

This is all because the media inciting uproar over Mike Brown and Eric Garner. Are you SWPLs happy now? Your retarded little hashtag activism is getting police officers killed.

Post: #9

(12-20-2014 05:56 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  This is all because the media inciting uproar over Mike Brown and Eric Garner. Are you SWPLs happy now? Your retarded little hashtag activism is getting police officers killed.

I also blame the American media for this if it was "retaliatory." They misreported the Brown story and incited anger to boost their ratings. I shudder to think how they'll cover this. I'm sure Sabrina Rubin-Erdley is on the case as we speak.

Post: #10

(12-20-2014 06:00 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 05:56 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  This is all because the media inciting uproar over Mike Brown and Eric Garner. Are you SWPLs happy now? Your retarded little hashtag activism is getting police officers killed.

I also blame the American media for this if it was "retaliatory." They misreported the Brown story and incited anger to boost their ratings. I shudder to think how they'll cover this. I'm sure Sabrina Rubin-Erdley is on the case as we speak.

What do you think of the Eric Garner case?

Personally, I think the Brown case is a clear-cut incident in which Brown was responsible for his own death, and the misrepresentation by the media that it was somehow a controversy is disgusting.

Post: #11

Saw this on Twitter

Post: #12

(12-20-2014 06:04 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 06:00 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 05:56 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  This is all because the media inciting uproar over Mike Brown and Eric Garner. Are you SWPLs happy now? Your retarded little hashtag activism is getting police officers killed.

I also blame the American media for this if it was "retaliatory." They misreported the Brown story and incited anger to boost their ratings. I shudder to think how they'll cover this. I'm sure Sabrina Rubin-Erdley is on the case as we speak.

What do you think of the Eric Garner case?

Personally, I think the Brown case is a clear-cut incident in which Brown was responsible for his own death, and the misrepresentation by the media that it was somehow a controversy is disgusting.

If you are so physically unfit that you keel over and die from police throwing your ass down because you are screaming at them, then maybe you shouldn't try to act like a badass towards the police.

Post: #13

(12-20-2014 05:53 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 05:48 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I wonder if police officers may start to refuse to police predominately black neighbourhoods. The chances of something going wrong and the political backlash that follows, could be a possible solution in the future.

Black?!

This was in Brooklyn. The place is not only white now, it's very very white. It's like Ivory Snow and the winter snow mixed together. Its like white out and typing paper.

Word on the street is that a couple of Brooklynite artiste hipsters snapped and went on a shooting spree because they're decaf lattes contained, er, caf.

They've already gotten the police artist to sketch one of the perps and he looks a little like this:

Unless that particular spot in Bed Stuy changed DRASTICALLY in the past 2 years from when I lived there, that area is still very black and Latino. You make it sound like it's Poughkeepsie or Central Park West.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brookl...9a9ac531dc

Dude is still illegally selling t-shirts and bric a brac on the street.

Clinton Hill and Fort Greene (which are close by) are whiter than they were 10 years ago, but not lily white.
Not like we're talking Park Slope or Carrol Gardens. (which might as well be Long Island in terms of whiteness)

Despite what people tell you, Williamsburg still has some of its original residents as well. Often times the gentrifiers live in the same buildings, but just have better apartments and 3x the rent.

20 years from now, assuming that the NYC remains the capital of finance and culture, it will be whiter, but there are still a fair amount of black and latinos in Brooklyn.

WIA

Post: #14

Horrifying.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner, though, and I don't think this is the last we'll be seeing of it.

"I predicted this in a previous post. I'm calling it now: there will be retaliatory responses by police officers, leading to more violent retaliatory responses by unhinged people like this one."
You're right. This is exactly what will happen. It's the same as any other insurgency: the government cracks down, which turns more people to the side of the insurgents, which makes them crack down harder... And what can you do to a guy who shoots himself in the head after he murders a cop? Put his corpse in the execution chair? Hire some voodoo priests to raise him from the dead and put him on trial? There's no way the police can get any kind of revenge or closure on this. Which means you're going to have a lot of very angry, very twitchy cops with guns who'll be looking to take it out on somebody. I can't blame them for feeling that way, but I dearly hope that somebody over there has the sense to tell them calm down. Otherwise they'll just ensure it happens again.

There's always a chance that a one-off event stays a one-off event, and isn't repeated. If we see 2 or 3 more of these, then that's when it's time to get real worried.

Of course, the real terror starts when somebody figures out that a cop's got a gun, a radio, and a bulletproof vest, but his family is completely defenseless.
How hard do you think it would be for one of Eric Garner's buddies to pull the name of one of the officers who killed him off the arrest report, plug it into Facebook, find out where his daughter goes to school and what she looks like, and then shoot her as she gets off the subway one morning? That's how the cartels do it in Mexico, and that's one of the things that turned that country into a shithole so fast.

When that happens, that's when things get really bad.

Post: #15

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Post: #16

(12-20-2014 06:33 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 06:04 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 06:00 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 05:56 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  This is all because the media inciting uproar over Mike Brown and Eric Garner. Are you SWPLs happy now? Your retarded little hashtag activism is getting police officers killed.

I also blame the American media for this if it was "retaliatory." They misreported the Brown story and incited anger to boost their ratings. I shudder to think how they'll cover this. I'm sure Sabrina Rubin-Erdley is on the case as we speak.

What do you think of the Eric Garner case?

Personally, I think the Brown case is a clear-cut incident in which Brown was responsible for his own death, and the misrepresentation by the media that it was somehow a controversy is disgusting.

If you are so physically unfit that you keel over and die from police throwing your ass down because you are screaming at them, then maybe you shouldn't try to act like a badass towards the police.

From what I had last heard that the medical evidence in the Garner case did not prove any injury to his trachea.

If this is true, then the media is to blame again. They reported he used an "illegal choke hold". If there was no damage to the trachea, then it would instead be a headlock, which would be legal. And this was the reason the Grand Jury decided charges were not warranted.

Post: #17

(12-20-2014 06:33 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 06:04 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 06:00 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 05:56 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  This is all because the media inciting uproar over Mike Brown and Eric Garner. Are you SWPLs happy now? Your retarded little hashtag activism is getting police officers killed.

I also blame the American media for this if it was "retaliatory." They misreported the Brown story and incited anger to boost their ratings. I shudder to think how they'll cover this. I'm sure Sabrina Rubin-Erdley is on the case as we speak.

What do you think of the Eric Garner case?

Personally, I think the Brown case is a clear-cut incident in which Brown was responsible for his own death, and the misrepresentation by the media that it was somehow a controversy is disgusting.

If you are so physically unfit that you keel over and die from police throwing your ass down because you are screaming at them, then maybe you shouldn't try to act like a badass towards the police.

Ah, so you're saying he got what was coming to him. Poor health is justifiable license to kill for any cop and his buddies who decide to put you in a chokehold (that was previously recognized as dangerous by the NYPD and thus its use was banned) for loudly disagreeing with them? Or did I misinterpret your post?

It_is_my_time,

A chokehold does not necessarily cause damage to the trachea, just as a punch to the head does not necessarily damage the head. C'mon now. The medical examiner (link below) "said compression of the neck and chest, along with Garner's positioning on the ground while being restrained by police during the July 17 stop on Staten Island, caused his death." He also said "Garner's acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease were contributing factors"

I think it's obvious that a fully healthy adult male would have survived this encounter. But in order for that to be important, you'd have to set a precedent that police officers can assume that anyone they are subduing using banned procedures is in good health. I think that's a dangerous precedent to set.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Eri...96151.html

Post: #18

Quote:h, so you're saying he got what was coming to him. Poor health is justifiable license to kill for any cop and his buddies who decide to put you in a chokehold (that was previously recognized as dangerous by the NYPD and thus its use was banned) for loudly disagreeing with them? Or did I misinterpret your post?

He died because of bad health. Reports already came back that he didn't die from a choke hold. Are you suggesting resisting criminals be allowed to do what they want? because obviously wrestling a guy to the ground to get cuffs on is sometimes needed. I did it many times..so what makes me different than the so called KILLER? There was no other way to accomplish what was needed I am sure and cops can't just say "gee he looks big and scary so let let him go".

What kind of society do we want?

One where the easy criminals who surrender get arrested but the resisting one's are allowed to go? Sounds crazy right? Logically the resisting ones are the most dangerous and it is shown in their behavior.

Many criminals have been taken off the street because they were breaking a minor law and during confrontation they got violent, etc.

Transit cops arrest bank robbers all the time. You know why? The robbers think they can do what they want and they enter the subway without paying their fare. Housing cops have arrested guys who just committed rape in the stairwell because they saw a guy pissing in a bush or smoking a joint in the vicinity.

The day cops REFUSE to do their job because they are afraid of a big guy having bad health(that they had no idea of ..they aren't doctors) or whatever is a day I want to move to the suburbs.

Also don't use the BAN word. It was banned bu NYPD decades ago. I believe after that incident where a kid was choked in Queens. That being said..it isn't illegal so it doesn't make the act criminal. State troopers, FBI agents, etc can still do it I suspect. Breaking a work rule .

In reference to the execution:


This is just an excuse for animals to act like animals. You really think those fucks gave a shit about some 300 lbs guy in Staten island?

People are MAD about many things including the economy..which the gov't lies about and says it GREAT. Interesting how it is during recessions that this shit happens.

Anyway here is what MIGHT happen. I am going by the cop gossip. Understand that this WAR of words between the Mayor and PBA president is overshadowing an overdue contract. Yes that is it..always about MONEY. Don't let the politicians fool you!

But the Mayor did go over the line recently and even the governor pointed out he was wrong. The cops have gotten the secret code for a slowdown. But it is a LEGAL slowdown.

Let me explain: The dept hands out the PATROL GUIDE which is like 5k pages of rules and regulations. Most cops don't follow them completely and the leadership is thankful for that because if cops actually followed it to a word NOTHING would get done in this city.

For example: most cars are in bad condition and in violation of work rules of both the union and dept. All the assigned officers have to do is say they are NOT going to drive the car that night and that it needs to go to the shop. If that happens majority of patrol will be grounded.

Cops can also waste each tour doing 1 job..crossing their T's and dotting their I's.

Slow down arrests? NO WAY! what they will do is give NO discretion. Every arrest , no matter how BS takes almost a whole tour to complete. Imagine when a whole platoon collars up within the 1st 45 minutes of work!

They use to do that sometimes when they were pissed at a boss..imagine city wide!

And there is NOTHING the city can do about it since it isn't a violation of the Taylor law!

I almost wish I went back now just to participate. It is/was a long time coming. When cops went on strike in the 70's things improved afterwards.

Worst case scenario ..national guard gets called in. You think they would treat Eric Gardner better? he he he... they are trained to shoot and that is it.

Oh and if Cops go on strike (or slowdown), possible firefighters will SLOWDOWN. Why? because firemen often get attacked in the bad areas and depend on police to be present during emergencies.

It gets worst..city EMS (FDNY) will also have to slow down because they also depend on police showing up to aided cases.

The ripple effect can be felt!

Again every union I mention is in a contract war with the Mayor. So trust me when I say that there is economics behind all this shit!

Ironically the teachers SOLD out (they tend to do so) but they also will avoid showing up to work when the ghetto has no patrol or emergency response.

MTA trains might slow down because in the 1970's they had their own police force..Transit cops. The cops merged into the NYPD. So I don't see how safe they will feel if cops empty out of the tunnels.

Hre's the slowdown order:
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/ci...discretion


I should also note that Corrections actually did a slowdown years ago and basically fucked up the whole city justice system. The officers all put the buses out of order and thousands of defendant's couldn't get to court.
No one fucks with them. Even Bloomberg was afraid of the union president( he visited the deputy mayors home with 2 guns strapped to him once in a prison uniform).
I am glad Pat Lynch grew a pair of balls.

Post: #19

jimukr104, your best point is the anger at the economy. The economy is a complete disaster right now and the real pain is yet to be felt. We so far have been allowed to throw trillions of dollars away (pay back political donors) and borrow money an unsustainable interest rates. As bad as the economy is right now, it is going to get a lot worse. And there is a lot of very badly directed anger due to it. People have a lot more free time on their hands, and a lot less opportunity. It is a powder keg right now.

Maybe if the Republicans will stick to their word and cut off a least some of the waste and roll back some of the 2,000 page bills full of regulations, we can get the economy to kick start. But I am sure not holding my breath on it.

Post: #20

"This is just an excuse for animals to act like animals. You really think those fucks gave a shit about some 300 lbs guy in Staten island?"


Given that he posted "#Revenge for EricGarner", shot two men, and shot himself in the head, I'm going to say yes, he did really care about it.
He wasn't a looter trying to get a TV. He wasn't a grievance monger trying to get TV time or shake down the government. He cared enough about it that he was willing to die.

Post: #21

Groups of well armed, well organized, well trained, and very experienced men could solve the urban gang-banger and organized gang problem. Law enforcement have their hands tied behind their backs. Criminals don't. It's easy waging war against an establishment that is scrutinized at every turn, just look at Iraq and Afghanistan. You cant fight terror with justice. Terror has to be fought with terror. There is no need for a year long investigation into established gangs to try to bring down the whole cell, which will end up in prison with members for their own cell anyways. It costs the tax payers money and wastes valuable resources. A simple well organized attack solves the problem in one night at the cost of some surplus ammunition.

Terror has to be fought with terror. That is very hard pill for people to swallow, but it is true.

Post: #22

(12-20-2014 07:03 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  He died because of bad health. Reports already came back that he didn't die from a choke hold. Are you suggesting resisting criminals be allowed to do what they want? because obviously wrestling a guy to the ground to get cuffs on is sometimes needed. I did it many times..so what makes me different than the so called KILLER? There was no other way to accomplish what was needed I am sure and cops can't just say "gee he looks big and scary so let let him go".

What kind of society do we want?

One where the easy criminals who surrender get arrested but the resisting one's are allowed to go? Sounds crazy right? Logically the resisting ones are the most dangerous and it is shown in their behavior.

Many criminals have been taken off the street because they were breaking a minor law and during confrontation they got violent, etc.

Transit cops arrest bank robbers all the time. You know why? The robbers think they can do what they want and they enter the subway without paying their fare. Housing cops have arrested guys who just committed rape in the stairwell because they saw a guy pissing in a bush or smoking a joint in the vicinity.

The day cops REFUSE to do their job because they are afraid of a big guy having bad health(that they had no idea of ..they aren't doctors) or whatever is a day I want to move to the suburbs.

Also don't use the BAN word. It was banned bu NYPD decades ago. I believe after that incident where a kid was choked in Queens. That being said..it isn't illegal so it doesn't make the act criminal. State troopers, FBI agents, etc can still do it I suspect. Breaking a work rule .

I can only go by what the medical examiner said, as he's the expert. He stated that the compression of the neck and chest was responsible for Garner's death.

I'm going to use the "ban" word, because banned is a good description of the chokehold the officer used. The police are authorized to use violent and deadly force at their discretion, with the understanding that they are given training to minimize harm when possible, and that they are to abide by this training. This training involves using techniques to bring down criminals in a way that causes minimal medical damage to the subject. If the officer decides to deviate from his training and use techniques that were banned specifically because of their danger to the subject, then I believe he should be FULLY AND COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE when those techniques have unintended outcomes. Is any part of this paragraph disagreeable to you?

This wasn't like me going on RVF at work, technically breaking a work rule. Breaking this rule resulted in the death of a man.

Also, the slippery slope fallacy is often blatantly present in your posts. I refuse to address slippery slope arguments.

Post: #23

(12-20-2014 07:09 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  jimukr104, your best point is the anger at the economy. The economy is a complete disaster right now and the real pain is yet to be felt. We so far have been allowed to throw trillions of dollars away (pay back political donors) and borrow money an unsustainable interest rates. As bad as the economy is right now, it is going to get a lot worse. And there is a lot of very badly directed anger due to it. People have a lot more free time on their hands, and a lot less opportunity. It is a powder keg right now.

Maybe if the Republicans will stick to their word and cut off a least some of the waste and roll back some of the 2,000 page bills full of regulations, we can get the economy to kick start. But I am sure not holding my breath on it.

Good point but about this:

Quote:If this is true, then the media is to blame again. They reported he used an "illegal choke hold". If there was no damage to the trachea, then it would instead be a headlock, which would be legal. And this was the reason the Grand Jury decided charges were not warranted.

Even if it was a CHOKE HOLD it isn't ILLEGAL. It is just not allowed in the NYPD. Understand the difference?

If you show up late to work you can get fired right? You violated a work rule but you can't go to jail or be sued right? You didn't break the law. Nor did that short small guy who couldn't do a proper choke hold.

As long as choke-holds are legal in the state of NY... a cop can't be arrested for negligence (it never murder because there isn't intention).

And here is the bigger problem. Again it is politics. Governor Cuomo is taking the cops side in this for his own agenda even and has little intention of changing state law.

That means all these protests make no sense because De Blassio can't really change the law to appease the protesters. Only the Governor can!

And as it stands regardless if it was a choke hold or NOT...there was no violation of law!

From what I read (ME reports) he couldn't breath because of his OWN WEIGHT constricting airflow when he was on his stomach/chest. I t wasn't constriction of air from his neck so regardless of chokehold or NOT he didn't die from that. I think their have been cases where people died from their own position and weight(often senior citizens) so it isn't impossible.

But again there is no rule telling cops NOT to put people on the ground laying on their stomach (nor do they have EMS/medical training to recognize such stress).

Quite the opposite! Tactic instructors teach for officer safety to always have the perp (he was a perp btw) on their stomach so they can't get up fast to attack and/or so they can't see well. Remember if they don't see the officer it is harder for them to plan an attack.

This raises the question...what can be different? in the future is their other tactics that decrease injury to perp without decreasing officer safety? Not sure..I am not a martial arts expert. And again realize that the corrupt gov't wouldn't even want to spend much more for such training.

Post: #24

(12-20-2014 05:48 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I wonder if police officers may start to refuse to police predominately black neighbourhoods. The chances of something going wrong and the political backlash that follows, could be a possible solution in the future.

Quote:"As a police officer, I'm not going to patrol my beat because it's too dangerous due to the Black residents".

Say that aloud to realize how silly it sounds.

Maybe Santitation workers will strike due trash being too smelly and FDNY won't work because burning buildings are too hot?

I work customer service. The rudest, most aggressive patrons I deal with are predominantly Black ( I am too). If I refuse to deal with them I will be fired. Same will happen to those cops.

You're suggesting insubordination which is ground for dismissal from most jobs. No lawsuit will get them their jobs back or any sort of unemployment benefits so, no it won't happen.

Post: #25

How hard is it to not kill someone?

Jared Loughner killed 6 people, and was taken down ALIVE.

Some guy sells loose cigarettes, something one guy should have given him a ticket for, and is strangled to death. On camera, while screaming I can't breath. And the grand jury decides not to indict. Mainly because the legislation excuses what a person can do as the agent of the state.

You think anyone is protesting over the fact that that cops are driving around cars that need emissions testing?

Distract, distract, distract.

But you're distracting yourself from the truth.

It's too much for your mind to comprehend that the State will allow its agents to take a life for trivial reasons.

Here's one for you,

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/276456...t-incident

A man falls asleep in his bathtub.

For whatever reason makes sense to someone who lives in a lily white suburb, a concerned citizen calls the cops.

"A SWAT team was summoned."

"They told a judge I had hostages. They lied to a judge and told him I had hostages in my apartment and they needed to enter," said Chadwick."

"While I had my hands up naked in the shower they shot me with a 40 millimeter non-lethal round," said Chadwick."

"They claimed I drew down with a shampoo bottle and a body wash bottle," said Chadwick."

"Chadwick, who hadn't broken a single law when SWAT burst through his door, was taken to the Ft. Bend County Jail with a fractured nose, bruised ribs and what's proven to be permanent hearing loss."

"Ft. Bend County District Attorney John Healy sought to indict Chadwick on two felony counts of assaulting a police officer, but a Grand Jury said no law was broken.

It could have stopped there, but Healy's prosecutors tried misdemeanor charges of resisting arrest, calling more than a dozen officers to testify. Those charges were dropped as well."

What does Chadwick look like? Some poor black "thug" with neck tattoos and a long rap sheet, saggy pants?



Even if you don't give a fuck about racism, and it's evident that I most of you people don't,
you should give a fuck about the police state that you're living in.

Where honest white men can get brutalized for no good reason, and then railroaded by the Justice system, no one is free.

In absolute numbers, more white men are killed every year by cops than black men.

The leaders of the white community should be up in arms about that.

Where's Shepard Smith? Where's Rush Limbaugh? Where's Glenn Beck on this?

Where's the white Al Sharpton to bring these corrupt bastards to justice?

Do white people only care about white on white violence when it happens to pretty little white girls?

Meanwhile it's only the radical fringe like Alex Jones who even mention shit like this.

WIA

(12-20-2014 07:03 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  This is just an excuse for animals to act like animals. You really think those fucks gave a shit about some 300 lbs guy in Staten island?

People are MAD about many things including the economy..which the gov't lies about and says it GREAT. Interesting how it is during recessions that this shit happens.

Anyway here is what MIGHT happen. I am going by the cop gossip. Understand that this WAR of words between the Mayor and PBA president is overshadowing an overdue contract. Yes that is it..always about MONEY. Don't let the politicians fool you!

But the Mayor did go over the line recently and even the governor pointed out he was wrong. The cops have gotten the secret code for a slowdown. But it is a LEGAL slowdown.

Let me explain: The dept hands out the PATROL GUIDE which is like 5k pages of rules and regulations. Most cops don't follow them completely and the leadership is thankful for that because if cops actually followed it to a word NOTHING would get done in this city.

For example: most cars are in bad condition and in violation of work rules of both the union and dept. All the assigned officers have to do is say they are NOT going to drive the car that night and that it needs to go to the shop. If that happens majority of patrol will be grounded.

Cops can also waste each tour doing 1 job..crossing their T's and dotting their I's.

Slow down arrests? NO WAY! what they will do is give NO discretion. Every arrest , no matter how BS takes almost a whole tour to complete. Imagine when a whole platoon collars up within the 1st 45 minutes of work!

They use to do that sometimes when they were pissed at a boss..imagine city wide!

And there is NOTHING the city can do about it since it isn't a violation of the Taylor law!

I almost wish I went back now just to participate. It is/was a long time coming. When cops went on strike in the 70's things improved afterwards.

Worst case scenario ..national guard gets called in. You think they would treat Eric Gardner better? he he he... they are trained to shoot and that is it.

Oh and if Cops go on strike (or slowdown), possible firefighters will SLOWDOWN. Why? because firemen often get attacked in the bad areas and depend on police to be present during emergencies.

It gets worst..city EMS (FDNY) will also have to slow down because they also depend on police showing up to aided cases.

The ripple effect can be felt!

Again every union I mention is in a contract war with the Mayor. So trust me when I say that there is economics behind all this shit!

Ironically the teachers SOLD out (they tend to do so) but they also will avoid showing up to work when the ghetto has no patrol or emergency response.

MTA trains might slow down because in the 1970's they had their own police force..Transit cops. The cops merged into the NYPD. So I don't see how safe they will feel if cops empty out of the tunnels.

Hre's the slowdown order:
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/ci...discretion


I should also note that Corrections actually did a slowdown years ago and basically fucked up the whole city justice system. The officers all put the buses out of order and thousands of defendant's couldn't get to court.
No one fucks with them. Even Bloomberg was afraid of the union president( he visited the deputy mayors home with 2 guns strapped to him once in a prison uniform).
I am glad Pat Lynch grew a pair of balls.