Post: #76

We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

Post: #77

^^^ Beat me to it.

We should never celebrate the death of any individual unless that person had committed heinous crimes against humanity, and at that point it is still subjective.

(12-21-2014 10:59 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  They could have just as easily gone into construction or IT or a million other careers where they wouldn't have to dodge bullets for a living. So a dead cop once in a while is par for the course.

Of course it is to be expected that police officers will be killed in the line of duty, no one is debating that. But what is frightening is that lunatics are running around killing cops in cold blood. On top of that, these people are being enabled by the media and SJW's who distorted the facts of cases to push forth an agenda.

We shouldn't accept the death of any individual and just shrug our shoulders. There is usually an explanation for someone's death and that reason should be used to help deter deaths in the future, whether it be murder, cancer, accidents on a construction site or teens getting gunned down in the ghetto.

Post: #78

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

It's also murder to shoot an unarmed man in the street with his hands in the air. Not to mention choking a man to death over a misdemeanor when police policy clearly forbids chokeholds.

There's a whole lot of murder going on and nobody's hands are clean.

Post: #79

(12-21-2014 12:06 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

It's also murder to shoot an unarmed man in the street with his hands in the air. Not to mention choking a man to death over a misdemeanor when police policy clearly forbids chokeholds.

There's a whole lot of murder going on and nobody's hands are clean.

Did these two men personally shoot the person mentioned or choke out someone on the street until they died?

How does random murder from a group of blue collar men doing their job help society.

I know people want to turn this into an argument about fighting against an occupying force but it's nothing close to that. It's a bullshit argument at best. There are certainly police abuses but nothing that warrants assassination of random men doing their job.

Post: #80

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

Who's celebrating? Not freaking out about something and celebrating are two different things.

Post: #81

If there is some sort of "Nat Turner rebellion" by young black men who have been in & out of the system or mistreated by police, no one should be surprised at this point. America could be on the brink of a new uprising, one the media seems to want to create.

Post: #82

(12-21-2014 12:13 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 12:06 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

It's also murder to shoot an unarmed man in the street with his hands in the air. Not to mention choking a man to death over a misdemeanor when police policy clearly forbids chokeholds.

There's a whole lot of murder going on and nobody's hands are clean.

Did these two men personally shoot the person mentioned or choke out someone on the street until they died?

How does random murder from a group of blue collar men doing their job help society.

I know people want to turn this into an argument about fighting against an occupying force but it's nothing close to that. It's a bullshit argument at best. There are certainly police abuses but nothing that warrants assassination of random men doing their job.

When they put on their uniform they cease to be individuals anymore. They're part of a collective organization ...a gang. Same way prosecutors can charge "innocent" people under Rico for being part of a criminal organization they should be charging the Police as an organization for criminal activities and policy. But they don't because they're all on the same team. That's the issue here. It's a corrupt system. And more cops will die if they don't change their policy.

Post: #83

(12-21-2014 11:34 AM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:43 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Being a cop is a dangerous job. But let's get real. They chose that job voluntarily. They weren't drafted. They chose that job for the high salary, benefits and pension plan that comes with it not for the honor or glory like they want you believe. So if random guys want to roll up kill a few cops I'm not upset about it. It comes with the territory. If you don't want to be shot at then don't be a cop.

Is being a law enforcement officer dangerous in reality or is it just dangerous on television shows and movies? Here is a chart from the Bureau of Labor Statistics National Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries.



and a quote from the report...

Quote:The number of fatal work injuries among protective service occupations was higher by 7 percent in 2013 to 247 fatalities. This was led by higher numbers of fatal injuries involving firefighting and prevention workers. Fatal injuries among firefighters rose 194 percent to 53 fatal work injuries from 18 in 2012. Two incidents alone accounted for over half of the 53 fatal injuries involving firefighters. Fatal work injuries among law enforcement workers were down 20 percent to a new series low of 97 fatalities.

Do you see parades, ceremonies and statues celebrating the guys working in the fields in the chart above? I have worked 3 of the jobs in this graph in the past, at no time did I feel I was in extreme danger.

Comparing construction work fatalities and police deaths, is like comparing apples and oranges though. Both professions are very different thus facing different types of risks.

Construction work deaths are more likely to be because of accidents, where as police officer deaths and injuries will come from someone violently attacking them. Which is probably why you didn't feel in extreme danger when working in the said jobs mentioned in the above graph.
Same applies to the threats firefighters face when attending emergencies as a living.

Police officers receive training, body armour, weapons and have procedures to ensure that risk to themselves is minimised. Although that still doesn't mean the risk isn't there. If police officers weren't to take such precautions you will probably have a much higher number of police deaths. Interesting to see the decrease in law enforcement deaths. Police work is more practical than theoretical, and from previous bad experiences, they are able to base future training on those scenarios where SHTF.

I would be interested seeing a different breakdown of the data, especially as I imagine there is a greater number of persons working in those jobs than there are police officers.

Police officers and firefighters receive ceremonies, parades and what have you not because they have a higher number of work related fatalities. More so because they are public servants and have a special function for the city/government.

Post: #84

(12-21-2014 12:24 PM)la_mode Wrote:  If there is some sort of "Nat Turner rebellion" by young black men who have been in & out of the system or mistreated by police, no one should be surprised at this point. America could be on the brink of a new uprising, one the media seems to want to create.

We're nowhere near the conditions which precipitated the slave rebellion era in history. There's no current justification for a Nat Turner, John Brown, and sure as shit not a Spartacus type of uprising.

There's injustice going down in society but most of the narrative is being guided and controlled by media and political interests. The reaction is overblown.

Post: #85

(12-21-2014 12:21 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

Who's celebrating? Not freaking out about something and celebrating are two different things.

There's definitely an implicit acceptance of a "they had it coming" type of attitude even on here by some posters. This is not justice. I don't care if they wear the same uniform it's wrong.

This sort of thing is also extremely counterproductive. There will be eventual blowback that you will not believe not just from what you think is the establishment but from the average rational person who has no horse in this race.

Post: #86

(12-21-2014 12:06 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

It's also murder to shoot an unarmed man in the street with his hands in the air. Not to mention choking a man to death over a misdemeanor when police policy clearly forbids chokeholds.

There's a whole lot of murder going on and nobody's hands are clean.

It isn't murder to shoot an unarmed man in the streets when he attacks you and tries to take your gun away from you and shoot you with it.

And the grand jury, after hours and hours of deliberating, decided what the cop did in the Garner case was by policy.

You make it sound like these two police officers didn't have their asses on the line, facing a possible life sentence. They did, and the grand jury determined that they did nothing wrong after going over a mountain of evidence. And in the case of Officer Wilson, he had his life ruined for simply doing his job, because the liberal media spun a bunch of lies to get more readers/clicks.

Post: #87

(12-21-2014 12:33 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 12:24 PM)la_mode Wrote:  If there is some sort of "Nat Turner rebellion" by young black men who have been in & out of the system or mistreated by police, no one should be surprised at this point. America could be on the brink of a new uprising, one the media seems to want to create.

We're nowhere near the conditions which precipitated the slave rebellion era in history. There's no current justification for a Nat Turner, John Brown, and sure as shit not a Spartacus type of uprising.

There's injustice going down in society but most of the narrative is being guided and controlled by media and political interests. The reaction is overblown.

A series of small revolts or lone wolf attacks in major US cities is a possibility, probably not a full-scale uprising.

Post: #88

(12-21-2014 12:29 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 12:13 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 12:06 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

It's also murder to shoot an unarmed man in the street with his hands in the air. Not to mention choking a man to death over a misdemeanor when police policy clearly forbids chokeholds.

There's a whole lot of murder going on and nobody's hands are clean.

Did these two men personally shoot the person mentioned or choke out someone on the street until they died?

How does random murder from a group of blue collar men doing their job help society.

I know people want to turn this into an argument about fighting against an occupying force but it's nothing close to that. It's a bullshit argument at best. There are certainly police abuses but nothing that warrants assassination of random men doing their job.

When they put on their uniform they cease to be individuals anymore. They're part of a collective organization ...a gang. Same way prosecutors can charge "innocent" people under Rico for being part of a criminal organization they should be charging the Police as an organization for criminal activities and policy. But they don't because they're all on the same team. That's the issue here. It's a corrupt system. And more cops will die if they don't change their policy.

Do you honestly believe, no bullshit ..that the system is so corrupt that pulling hits on random policemen is a reasoned and sane response to perceived injustice?

Post: #89

(12-21-2014 12:31 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:34 AM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:43 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Being a cop is a dangerous job. But let's get real. They chose that job voluntarily. They weren't drafted. They chose that job for the high salary, benefits and pension plan that comes with it not for the honor or glory like they want you believe. So if random guys want to roll up kill a few cops I'm not upset about it. It comes with the territory. If you don't want to be shot at then don't be a cop.

Is being a law enforcement officer dangerous in reality or is it just dangerous on television shows and movies? Here is a chart from the Bureau of Labor Statistics National Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries.



and a quote from the report...

Quote:The number of fatal work injuries among protective service occupations was higher by 7 percent in 2013 to 247 fatalities. This was led by higher numbers of fatal injuries involving firefighting and prevention workers. Fatal injuries among firefighters rose 194 percent to 53 fatal work injuries from 18 in 2012. Two incidents alone accounted for over half of the 53 fatal injuries involving firefighters. Fatal work injuries among law enforcement workers were down 20 percent to a new series low of 97 fatalities.

Do you see parades, ceremonies and statues celebrating the guys working in the fields in the chart above? I have worked 3 of the jobs in this graph in the past, at no time did I feel I was in extreme danger.

Comparing construction work fatalities and police deaths, is like comparing apples and oranges though. Both professions are very different thus facing different types of risks.

Construction work deaths are more likely to be because of accidents, where as police officer deaths and injuries will come from someone violently attacking them. Which is probably why you didn't feel in extreme danger when working in the said jobs mentioned in the above graph.
Same applies to the threats firefighters face when attending emergencies as a living.

Nope. Most police officers who die in the line of duty die in accidents.

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fata...auses.html

Post: #90

FUCK THE PO-PO!

Post: #91

(12-21-2014 12:31 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Comparing construction work fatalities and police deaths, is like comparing apples and oranges though. Both professions are very different thus facing different types of risks.

Construction work deaths are more likely to be because of accidents, where as police officer deaths and injuries will come from someone violently attacking them. Which is probably why you didn't feel in extreme danger when working in the said jobs mentioned in the above graph.
Same applies to the threats firefighters face when attending emergencies as a living.

Police officers receive training, body armour, weapons and have procedures to ensure that risk to themselves is minimised. Although that still doesn't mean the risk isn't there. If police officers weren't to take such precautions you will probably have a much higher number of police deaths. Interesting to see the decrease in law enforcement deaths. Police work is more practical than theoretical, and from previous bad experiences, they are able to base future training on those scenarios where SHTF.

I would be interested seeing a different breakdown of the data, especially as I imagine there is a greater number of persons working in those jobs than there are police officers.

Police officers and firefighters receive ceremonies, parades and what have you not because they have a higher number of work related fatalities. More so because they are public servants and have a special function for the city/government.

I am comparing apples to apples. I was responding to the myth that law enforcement is a catastrophically life threatening career. Can it be an annoying career? Yes it can be, so are many other careers. Is it an extremely life threatening career? The numbers just don't show it.

edit: Thank you weambulance for the link showing the number of accidental deaths in law enforcement. I would be curious to see the number of deaths due to attack on law enforcement vs. the number of deaths due to attack on bouncers, bartenders, video casino operators and retail cashiers.

Post: #92

(12-21-2014 12:21 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

Who's celebrating? Not freaking out about something and celebrating are two different things.

Bang on - acknowledge and move on. People acting like Scousers on here with their grief hustling.

Post: #93

(12-21-2014 12:04 PM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  ^^^ Beat me to it.

We should never celebrate the death of any individual unless that person had committed heinous crimes against humanity, and at that point it is still subjective.

(12-21-2014 10:59 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  They could have just as easily gone into construction or IT or a million other careers where they wouldn't have to dodge bullets for a living. So a dead cop once in a while is par for the course.

Of course it is to be expected that police officers will be killed in the line of duty, no one is debating that. But what is frightening is that lunatics are running around killing cops in cold blood. On top of that, these people are being enabled by the media and SJW's who distorted the facts of cases to push forth an agenda.

We shouldn't accept the death of any individual and just shrug our shoulders. There is usually an explanation for someone's death and that reason should be used to help deter deaths in the future, whether it be murder, cancer, accidents on a construction site or teens getting gunned down in the ghetto.

Exactly..it wasn't in their performance of duty. It was an execution. Same as ISIS member beheading Americans.

But it is even worst..the guy instead of doing the crime in his own city decided to do it in NYC. Last I checked he isn't a NYC taxpayer. So now we have death squad tourists visiting here. Like terrorists and wannabe ISIS followers weren't enough!

This will make life less comfortable for locals.
Also if the cops start following the new PBA orders crime is going to rise (it has been already but the captains lie and fudge numbers).

For example, Lynch said cops are now to have back up to EVERY job. Realize that the dept is under manned already. So now instead of 3 minutes to respond to a job it might take much longer since they will wait for backup.

They also said no more tickets or unnecessary arrests. In other words if you house gets broken into..don't expect a car coming anytime soon. Or help if someone is trespassing on your property.

Necessary arrests mean mostly arrests where a victim accuses to guy right on the spot and cops are forced to take them in. Things might become like the 70's in a few months if this ORDER continues. I hear they are going to demand city council impeach the Mayor or else( remember I am logged into the PBA forum lol).

I blame mass media including social media for what is going on. All over the world this new form of communication is causing extremist action. Look at Ukraine crisis and Syria you will see parallels.

Decades ago to become an extremist one actually had to study, join a group and move up in the ranks. Now all one has to do is read a blog lol.

Now as to Asian abuse:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/12/15/p...-protests/

I think guy on Bridge was also Asian.

Less than 10% of the dept are Asian but they seem to be like 1/3 of those attacked.
I think those cowards are thinking Asian guys being smaller are easy targets. Funny, because as cops they are usually the nicest to the perps. We had a guy who use to hug the criminals he arrested.


I wonder if they would attack a tall 6 4 Ivan Drago looking guy.

Post: #94

(12-20-2014 10:01 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  A healthy society depends on respect for the rule of law and those who enforce it. Individual patrol cops aren't the problem, even the bad ones. They're just symptoms of a diseased system.

Quote:I am entirely okay with the cops in this country knowing that a gun could be put on them at any moment. This militarized police force has gotten way out of hand.

Putting the fear of God into cops won't demilitarize them. It'll just make them want to load up even more. And they'll get their wish, because the ruling class is in favor of a militarized police and a police vs citizens conflict. Less focus on the crimes of the powerful.

Of course, that comes with it.

I'm not stupid. I'm entirely aware of the dynamic that:

Cops create protest
Protest creates uprising
Uprising creates cops
Cops create protest
...ad infinitum

This dynamic is as old as governments themselves.

I would have a hell of a lot more support for police if the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of this country were upholding our constitutional rights, but that is not the case. We have been sold out, and if you don't see this then you're not looking hard enough.

The Legislative branch in this country was designed to carry the most power, but for decades there has been a continuing trend of the President and government agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA, local police force) of completely overstepping their authority to wrestle more power and control, and they have succeeded. Our Congress and Senate have failed us, the people themselves have failed to rise up, so if some asshole has the nerve to play "payback" against the police force, good for him. I'm sorry two men had to die and I'm not glad they're dead, but again, in a big picture sense, someone has to fight back. If there was any real justice in this country, there would be millions of armed citizens rising up and holding the entire country hostage until most of our bureaucratic government organizations were dissolved (starting with the NSA and TSA), completely restructured to get local representatives that actually give a shit about the citizens back in power, and get this country back on track.

Post: #95

(12-21-2014 12:48 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 12:29 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 12:13 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 12:06 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 11:59 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We're not living in Roman times where decimation is a thing. Even then there was a good reason for it back then. Anyone that celebrates two random cops being killed is a disgusting piece of shit. This isn't a fight against the system it's just plain murder.

It's also murder to shoot an unarmed man in the street with his hands in the air. Not to mention choking a man to death over a misdemeanor when police policy clearly forbids chokeholds.

There's a whole lot of murder going on and nobody's hands are clean.

Did these two men personally shoot the person mentioned or choke out someone on the street until they died?

How does random murder from a group of blue collar men doing their job help society.

I know people want to turn this into an argument about fighting against an occupying force but it's nothing close to that. It's a bullshit argument at best. There are certainly police abuses but nothing that warrants assassination of random men doing their job.

When they put on their uniform they cease to be individuals anymore. They're part of a collective organization ...a gang. Same way prosecutors can charge "innocent" people under Rico for being part of a criminal organization they should be charging the Police as an organization for criminal activities and policy. But they don't because they're all on the same team. That's the issue here. It's a corrupt system. And more cops will die if they don't change their policy.

Do you honestly believe, no bullshit ..that the system is so corrupt that pulling hits on random policemen is a reasoned and sane response to perceived injustice?

Murder is murder. It doesn't matter who is holding the gun.

And yes I believe the system is corrupt. It hasn't been corrupted over time. It's corrupt by design.

Post: #96

Quote:The Legislative branch in this country was designed to carry the most power, but for decades there has been a continuing trend of the President and government agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA, local police force) of completely overstepping their authority to wrestle more power and control, and they have succeeded. Our Congress and Senate have failed us, the people themselves have failed to rise up, so if some asshole has the nerve to play "payback" against the police force, good for him. I'm sorry two men had to die and I'm not glad they're dead, but again, in a big picture sense, someone has to fight back. If there was any real justice in this country, there would be millions of armed citizens rising up and holding the entire country hostage until most of our bureaucratic government organizations were dissolved (starting with the NSA and TSA), completely restructured to get local representatives that actually give a shit about the citizens back in power, and get this country back on track.

No arguments here. So what good is shooting two foot soldiers? Meaningless. On the other hand, if Blankfein, Morgan, Yellen, and co started eating lead for lunch...

Post: #97

If you honestly believe that the Garner and Brown incidents are in any way comparable to the cold-blooded executions of these two beat cops you're either:

1) woefully uninformed, or
2) so committed to a particular ideology you've lost the capacity for rational thought

Murder is unlawful killing with intent. You honestly think the cop who (briefly) applied the (legal) chokehold was trying to kill Garner? Or that Wilson randomly decided to gun down a kid with his hands up, despite all the contradictory evidence?

This guy yesterday walked up to the passenger window and unloaded a clip in their heads. That's murder.

While I personally agree the cops are becoming overmilitarized, irrational comparisons don't further the dialogue

Post: #98

(12-21-2014 01:24 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

Quote:The Legislative branch in this country was designed to carry the most power, but for decades there has been a continuing trend of the President and government agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA, local police force) of completely overstepping their authority to wrestle more power and control, and they have succeeded. Our Congress and Senate have failed us, the people themselves have failed to rise up, so if some asshole has the nerve to play "payback" against the police force, good for him. I'm sorry two men had to die and I'm not glad they're dead, but again, in a big picture sense, someone has to fight back. If there was any real justice in this country, there would be millions of armed citizens rising up and holding the entire country hostage until most of our bureaucratic government organizations were dissolved (starting with the NSA and TSA), completely restructured to get local representatives that actually give a shit about the citizens back in power, and get this country back on track.

No arguments here. So what good is shooting two foot soldiers? Meaningless. On the other hand, if Blankfein, Morgan, Yellen, and co started eating lead for lunch...

I beg to differ.

Nothing will change by systematically replacing specific individuals. What needs to change is the populace.

What does the murder of two cops mean to the populace? Well, to those that are sympathetic, it means a tragedy.

But to those that are not sympathetic to the current power structure, it gives them a sense of retribution and justice, which is VERY powerful.

Post: #99

If a revolution ever occurs in America, you'll need at least parts of the police and military to join. They're not the enemy.

Post: #100

(12-21-2014 01:24 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

Quote:The Legislative branch in this country was designed to carry the most power, but for decades there has been a continuing trend of the President and government agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA, local police force) of completely overstepping their authority to wrestle more power and control, and they have succeeded. Our Congress and Senate have failed us, the people themselves have failed to rise up, so if some asshole has the nerve to play "payback" against the police force, good for him. I'm sorry two men had to die and I'm not glad they're dead, but again, in a big picture sense, someone has to fight back. If there was any real justice in this country, there would be millions of armed citizens rising up and holding the entire country hostage until most of our bureaucratic government organizations were dissolved (starting with the NSA and TSA), completely restructured to get local representatives that actually give a shit about the citizens back in power, and get this country back on track.

No arguments here. So what good is shooting two foot soldiers? Meaningless. On the other hand, if Blankfein, Morgan, Yellen, and co started eating lead for lunch...

Even worst..he is naive. It is the voters who vote these people in power so ultimately it is the citizens who are responsible.

As for striking back..wrong target. USA isn't EU. Police on the city level jobs are to take care of order in the local community. The FBI and other Federal agencies should be attacked based on his logic. Mc Veign attacked the Feds.

Attacking local cops makes no sense..especially because the MAJORITY is happy with their service. A few thousand welfare guys and liberal unemployed artists on Daddies trust account isn't a majority.

Another thing... rising up because of a CRIMINAL who died by tragic accident makes no sense. It happened a century ago and it will happen in the future. Shit happens all the time and is one resists arrest more likely shit will happen.

For every liberal who sympathizes with these thugs I know there is a guy who thinks we should save money by sitting criminals on top of each other in a chair and firing a large caliber bullet at them. My whole life I met many of these people, both genders and NO they weren't cops lol.

Like a bar fight. If you get in one you risk injury. Again there is no other way to handle such things and I am sure the average NYER is glad their cops have reduced crime.

You really think the average NY'ER gives a fuck that some fat 300 lb black guy had an asthma attack because he refuse to come quietly? If you do I will sell you a bridge.

The only people who care are the ones who:
1. break law themselves and think that they can be next
2. people who actually feel LOW and only hope is to listen to mass media spin shit that makes them feel discriminated.

It is similar to the wall street protests. Remember? majority of population actually hated them for being lazy fucks. Another protest started against them. Just like Maiden..most protests are never majority opinion. I also suspect most are unhappy and unemployed which means they have time to protest.


I live in NYC...my whole life. I got the right to have an opinion here , as I pay taxes, and I will say things in the street is much better than they were 20 years ago, even 10 years ago.

Especially in the ghetto. In the 1990's (crack era) NO SANE resident could play in parks or walk the street there. Now basically it is quiet and people live lives and walk their dogs same as in any other area. It was the cops that did that!

Now as crime rises and more crime will come because of the slow down the thugs will rule the streets again.

I don't care because as crime increases and shit happens in my area...the Russian thugs will form groups to keep out the others and we will have safety by locals again. In other words the 1980's is coming back when every area had a local gang that (was under mafia control) kept the area safe. Basically race /ethnic warfare again.

Return of Sheepsheadbay boys, Kingshighway boys, etc. This was how it was when I grew up. White areas had gangs.

Quote:If a revolution ever occurs in America, you'll need at least parts of the police and military to join. They're not the enemy.

True and yeah we really need a revolution . I mean it is terrible in USA. After all we pay very little in taxes compared to anywhere else. Our standard of living is among the highest and most goods cost less than everywhere else. We have banks that actually keep our deposits safe because it is Federally insured. We have ALL types of food from all over the world. We have mostly freedom of expression. We get to vote.

We even have a higher standard of living for our poor. Avg poor person in America lives like the middle class in most of the world. Avg poor person in America owns a home, has a car and 2 televisions. You be considered rich in Ukraine with that!

But yeah those ghetto fuckers should rebel. They should stand up and NOT take their miserable life anymore because how dare the evil gov't give them welfare checks, medicaid, food stamps, free/low cost rent and energy subsidies and summer camps for their children. In fact now the poor get free cell phones and low cost internet.
http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/...-providers


Our hated police..actually mostly are helpful. They give directions when asked, even rescue puppies once in a while. Certainly they suck. We be better off having police like those in most of the world. We miss torture. We all know after a revolution police are nicer. After all they always are in history( roll eyes)

But yeah we all know cops suck because when they do their job sometimes (rare in absolute encounter %'s) people die. A few times innocent..but more often criminals.And in Brown's case it was justifiable self defense. But majority of Americans love criminals and would prefer that they get away with whatever they want. We all love 300 lbs law breakers who were wife beaters and hum FUCK THE PO PO.

We even love terrorists arrested being held in Cuba. That is why Obama will make it easier to visit them and take a fruit cake to them.

We all know that we only give cops gun s to look cool and not actually use them. Or use their sticks or hands. We want them to just stand there and look pretty!

Our ambulances show up (most of the world they DON'T). But after a revolution we all know ambulance drivers are happy to work harder for NO SALARY.

Our medical system is insane but we should hate the high quality compared to most of the world and we all know that after a revolution things are much better. The doctors will give free care to show support!(rolls eyes)

The teens of thousands that die in hospitals each year due to malpractice, mixing records or picking up infections in hospitals is A OK . We don't need to protest the health system or execute doctors because we all know they are allowed to make mistakes and cause unneeded death..unlike cops!

We shouldn't execute drivers who are killing people on the road by accident every year. Or hold the car manufacturers responsible for not making cars that drive themselves.

A death..tragic or NOT is only protest worthy when a guy in a blue uniform does it. Although we actually armed such guys with weapons because WE UNDERSTOOD this might happen sometimes.

We never protest that we are stuck living in a society where we can't enter half of our own cities due to high crime and thugs that live there. And it is worst because we tie our law enforcement hands.

And as one of our geniuses on RVF said , you can sympathize with the ghetto thug who lives off gov't , breaks the law and even does violent things to cops and others(Brown) because after all people have a right to vent and get revenge although no one did anything personally to them on anyone they know. I guess it is true... every thug is our brother when a man in blue hurts them.

But we can't sypathize with the dead cops that died for no reason because they work for the MAN. The same man who gives us roads, services, military protection, and a economy that works better thn 90% of the worlds nations.

Sure nothing like a revolution to hurt the stock market . After all why shouldn't we be jealous with those who have money to invest and make more jobs. Just because we rather by an ipod than put money in 401k.


Now the real reason: some members must actually think girls are going to swoon for them and that feminism will just disappear. The women folk will thank you for you revolt and go back to being mothers and good wives. After all it isn't like they will need to work to survive considering most of the economy stops and they can just survive on your sperm. Maybe you be better off working hard and getting plastic surgery if you unhappy with who you attract?


Here is the reality: The minority(not talking race here) of this country who wants to fight the system, mostly uneducated, under employed , bloodsucking parasites on the very gov't, will always be unhappy and want change.

Cops are the MOST visible agent of gov't that most people see so of coure they get attacked. DMV workers get attacked also because they represent gov't and people get frustrated after waiting on line.

Thank god the majority of us are content and know we have better than most places. They will crush the rebellion because they are the ones who have guns, ex military/police and have something to protect. They outnumber the ghetto thugs and maybe when it is all over we will end welfare, foods tamps, etc so those thugs have to actually get a job.

Ok now after I clearly made fun of our own country men(including over the head of some of own members here,but they deserve it by being anarchists) lol),

:banana:what will this revolution look like?

Show me the country, utopia that we plan on forming. Please point out the other countries around the world that created this after a revolution?

French Revolution? NAH

Bolshevik Revolution? NAH

Cuban one? NAH

Iranian revolution? NAH

Ukrainian revolution? NAH..they have no pot to piss in and the new gov't is more oppressive.

American revolution? hmm... well reality check.
Things didn't improve for the majority and certainly not for minorities. Slavery lasted longer because of it than it would have under British rule. Elites got richer and poor stayed poor or died in one of the following wars.

Another thing that sets apart our revolution is that it was started by rich educated elites.

But we all know our new revolution will be better since it will be done/run by criminals, their supporters, ghetto uneducated and unemployed welfare recipients, trust fund hipster artists, rap stars, 300 lb fried chicken eater disabled, transvestites and Gay, and Al Sharpton.

Yeah my money is on this working out (rolls eyes). Hitler(in his grave) and Putin must be laughing at this. Our countries degenerates will have a revolution and somehow our nation will keep its place in the world.

Is it just me that sees Somalia, Liberia coming to a theatre near you soon?