(11-21-2014 12:43 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I swear there's something funny about luck in game.

Bang either come in streaks or it's dry spell. And the bang streak always comes when you have a shit ton of work to do.

haha i'm with you there man. were you able to bang the chick in your Best and Worst lay thread again? kinda curious on what the outcome is.

(11-21-2014 01:22 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 12:43 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I swear there's something funny about luck in game.

Bang either come in streaks or it's dry spell. And the bang streak always comes when you have a shit ton of work to do.

haha i'm with you there man. were you able to bang the chick in your Best and Worst lay thread again? kinda curious on what the outcome is.

Working on it bro. Don't worry, the moment I bang her the whole forum will know I'll keep trolling you guys until someone gives out the price "Asian player of the month"

Thinking about it it's fucked up, we actually did have crazy sex that night except I couldn't put it in. I want to seppuku my dick right now.

It's a little sad when I have more of a drive to close a girl's number, then do a meet and a bang.

Than close a lead, get a meeting or quote out, then close it.

I wish I could get paid to game and close girls, I need to learn how to apply this to sales.

Quite bummed that none of the girls I pipelined for my SG trip worked out. Still banged two others from night game so it wasn't a total loss but would have been nice to convert them.
They seemed like total goers as well but two dropped off as soon as I got into town, 1 turned out to not drink/party and one I got up to my room but wouldn't go through with the bang.
The biggest loss was a tight little 19 year old who was sending me naked pics but when it came time to meet she admitted she was a virgin and wouldn't meet up.
Frustrating.

I feel like I'm going against my own word. This mid 30s Korean woman with two kids have been flirting with me. Usually I don't give a damn but I want that flag. Has a good body for her age but she's got that old in shape body type that most in shape women over 35 have. It's funny though as I've been negging her when she says she's in great shape or it must be the Asian genes. I always reply with'youre still old or something to that nature. That shit has been driving her wild.

So I'm in a really terrible position.

I met an American (!!) girl who's feminine, chaste, and intelligent. She's a religious Catholic. I've been seeing her for nearly two months.

I'm also going to parties with my buddies and seeing tons of college sluts, some of whom I want to fuck. It's just a rough situation.

It's basically a question of long term happiness vs. hedonism. And it's really making me think right now.

(11-23-2014 01:37 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  So I'm in a really terrible position.

I met an American (!!) girl who's feminine, chaste, and intelligent. She's a religious Catholic. I've been seeing her for nearly two months.

I'm also going to parties with my buddies and seeing tons of college sluts, some of whom I want to fuck. It's just a rough situation.

It's basically a question of long term happiness vs. hedonism. And it's really making me think right now.

I hope you're not falling for that facade.

The only harem girl left in my city couldn't come today because she's doing a research paper on "the increasing sexuality in young girls today" due midnight.

The irony is not lost on me.

Once i think of how much effort and time I put into a bang or to get a girl to go out on a date(dealing with their bs, flaking, etc) I nearly become turned off towards that woman completely. I must have sunk hours into these useless women. The amount of effort I've expended chasing women is ridiculous.

I'd love to find an average woman I can park my game with for a bit. Is that too much to ask? I'm sick of opening basic bitches on okc, texting them about their banal lives, managing to entertain them long enough to set up a date, I hate being a clown, dealing with flaking, going on dates and talking about the same stuff on a date, pulling the same moves to get the first date bang.

Not only are they boring women, the sex generally sucks. Don't txt her for a day? she's disappeared. one wrong beta move and they disappear or a wrong text and they say something bitchy.

(11-24-2014 02:26 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Once i think of how much effort and time I put into a bang or to get a girl to go out on a date(dealing with their bs, flaking, etc) I nearly become turned off towards that woman completely. I must have sunk hours into these useless women.

I'd love to find an average woman I can park my game with for a bit. Is that too much to ask? I'm sick of opening basic bitches on okc, texting them about their banal lives, managing to entertain them long enough to set up a date, dealing with flaking, going on dates and talking about the same stuff on a date, pulling the same moves to get the first date bang.

Not only are they boring women. Don't txt her for a day? she's disappeared. one wrong move and they disappear or a wrong text ans they say something bitchy.

You got a case of the burnout my friend. That's exactly how I feel from time to time. But let's be honest, the games, the flaking, the closing numbers and getting nowhere, the random radio silence, texts gone wrong, etc. - it's ALL apart online game.

You hunt, you capture, you devour, then...it gets boring. Unless you can pick them up for your harem, which works out nicely, until feelings come along.

This is where gaming in person gives you a breath of fresh air, granted I don't and can't do it often, when I do, it's a great break.

Take some time off and work on yourself.

I might add it helps to have a main HB on the regular. I'm fortunate enough to have one for about a year now. I enjoy my time with her and she complements my life, I can share some positive emotion with her and keep my feelings in check while gaming other girls.

I know the struggle well Valhalla

Travesty put my dick in check -no homo- bro.

This is regards to banging my main without a condom AFTER she's already had an abortion.

Before she was on the shot, she's on the pill now, I always pull out.

Problem is if I start wearing condoms it just has to raise red flags to her: STD, Banging other girls, I'm slowly ejecting out of the relationship.

Now it's a Catch 22 or a Catch 444.

(11-24-2014 02:26 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Once i think of how much effort and time I put into a bang or to get a girl to go out on a date(dealing with their bs, flaking, etc) I nearly become turned off towards that woman completely. I must have sunk hours into these useless women. The amount of effort I've expended chasing women is ridiculous.

I'd love to find an average woman I can park my game with for a bit. Is that too much to ask? I'm sick of opening basic bitches on okc, texting them about their banal lives, managing to entertain them long enough to set up a date, I hate being a clown, dealing with flaking, going on dates and talking about the same stuff on a date, pulling the same moves to get the first date bang.

Not only are they boring women, the sex generally sucks. Don't txt her for a day? she's disappeared. one wrong beta move and they disappear or a wrong text and they say something bitchy.

I hear you there man, but I can tell you with certainty that even if you find that girl you will not be satisfied.

I got into the game to find a girlfriend and I found one. From Seoul, well educated, very feminine and submissive, elegant and classy, not smoking hot but pretty cute. Do everything I ask. Basically the "perfect girlfriend". I thought I could finally relax but I quickly get bored. I started looking left and right and start gaming again. Sometimes the girl isn't half as pleasant as my girlfriend but I still do it. The thrill of the hunt is ir-fuckin-resistible.

I'm currently working on another white girl and it gets so bad to the point that when I'm fucking my girlfriend I actually think about the white girl instead. Then after a few PM exchanges with Onto and JJG I realize it's not about the girl, it's about my own thirst for conquest and my own narcissism. I'm going to fucking burn in hell.

It hits me pretty hard now that I realize there will be no rest from the game. The hunt is eternal. I wonder how the fuck men managed to stay in monogamous relationship throughout history. The boredom and familiarity are detriment to our sense of adventure and self-transcendence.

So much truth in the last few posts. It's something I struggle with constantly.

On one hand, yes, playing the field is repetitive. Valhalla nailed it. At the same time, being in an exclusive relationship with one girl has its downsides as well.

Ultimately you want to get to a level where you meet a girl and can be yourself. Honestly, yes some of these things we've learned should be natural but a lot of what we do is not our true selves. I can't be the only one that wants to be able to find a girl that I can let my guard down with and be vulnerable and not think consciously about every romantic move I make. But at the same time, I don't even know if that's a reality.

Maybe there really are some relationships out there that are grounded in true love and both parties can be themselves with no power struggle but, man, that's gotta be rare, right?

What stage does this whole thing end? When can you truly be free to be who you are without worrying if she's losing respect for you in the process?

As men, do we have to continue the charades for life? Put on the alpha pants even when we don't want to? And I don't mean revert back to beta status and be a pussy. I just mean, I'd like to be able to relax and not have to tackle every shit test with precision. I'd like to go long stretches of time with a girl without having to prove to her I still have a penis. At some point she'd have to realize "okay, this dude is masculine. I don't have to continue the bullshit."

(11-24-2014 05:37 AM)Mister X Wrote:  So much truth in the last few posts. It's something I struggle with constantly.

On one hand, yes, playing the field is repetitive. Valhalla nailed it. At the same time, being in an exclusive relationship with one girl has its downsides as well.

Ultimately you want to get to a level where you meet a girl and can be yourself. Honestly, yes some of these things we've learned should be natural but a lot of what we do is not our true selves. I can't be the only one that wants to be able to find a girl that I can let my guard down with and be vulnerable and not think consciously about every romantic move I make. But at the same time, I don't even know if that's a reality.

There may be rare cases, back decades ago it was likely more of a probability.

I am myself around my main HB, my game has become apart of me and is on autopilot, my improvements are who I am. I'm not really a vulnerable guy to be honest, I don't need to tell my emotions to my main HB, because well, there is no reason to, sure I might complain about a shitty day, but that's all. I've found a great balance with her.

There isn't letting any guard down, she treats me good, so I return the favor. I've let her escalate this relationship, not me, she wants it more than I do.

Quote:Maybe there really are some relationships out there that are grounded in true love and both parties can be themselves with no power struggle but, man, that's gotta be rare, right?

Absolutely, rare, but possible, but gaming is always needed, it should be apart of you, not something you have to think about.

Quote:What stage does this whole thing end? When can you truly be free to be who you are without worrying if she's losing respect for you in the process?

In this day and age, I don't know, it could possibly be never.

Quote:As men, do we have to continue the charades for life? Put on the alpha pants even when we don't want to? And I don't mean revert back to beta status and be a pussy. I just mean, I'd like to be able to relax and not have to tackle every shit test with precision. I'd like to go long stretches of time with a girl without having to prove to her I still have a penis. At some point she'd have to realize "okay, this dude is masculine. I don't have to continue the bullshit."

You shouldn't have to put on a mask and have to bring your A game, it should just be who you are. Just in the last year, I noticed a huge difference in who I am, I can especially tell when I'm drunk out with girls.

It something that has become apart of me and even good pussy isn't changing that.

What you should be doing is flipping the script put the challenges and expectations on her, have her prove she's a real feminine woman.

Have all the expectations on her, also working on inner game is a great start to having strong SMV and having less worry gaming girls and maintaining attraction.

So this happened on my work chat:

kaotic: wait how long have you guys been together ? a year right ? where you getting married ?
co worker: We are getting married in the Bahamas
kaotic: Woah dude
coworker: Not my choice but I am following the word of an ol’ wise man. “Happy Wife Happy Life” I just hope its true hahaha
kaotic: a wise old man told me once happy life no wife hahaha

Seriously ! When will guys wake up.

Remember the golden rule: When a woman says "Let's get one more drink," the time to pull her was two drinks before that.

But what if she says that after the first drink?

I've been doing well recently. Reading the forum has helped - it's not even the specific things, it's just a general feeling you get of "I can fucking do this".

And then success breeds more success.

Went out dancing without any intention of gaming last night, just to relax a bit while planning my next move with this girl. Dressed like a loser without cologne or anything.

Bam, halfway through the night the girl I've been trying to game show up out of nowhere. She never even knew about the place. I felt like I was jumped by some shadow ninjas while taking a piss in front of the White House. Frame was off from the start and I think I lost the girl.

Did I just say something about luck in game a few post earlier? FUCK MURPHY LAW

Next time, suit up to go grocery shopping. Always be game ready. Just go to show game is not something you put on and take off. it has to become you.

Had this basic 6 I banged twice months ago show up to my house, she pretty much invited herself over by text, I didn't notice this at first but she walked inside with a pea-coat, hosiery, and this betty paige looking lingerie outfit.

I was caught a big off guard, one of the best standing up blowjobs that I got off from.

She stared up at me, deep throated, and swallowed. I didn't fuck her though.

Fuck I just wish she lost some weight, stopped dying her hair and grew it out - she'd be this cute latin girl with big ass perk tits !

I know I shouldn't be doing it but I quite like a girl I met recently. I hate how liking a girl totally fucks your game.

Met her at a Halloween party and she instantly caught my eye. Athletic body and Scandinavian heritage so nice blonde hair and blue eyes. Also an aggressive vibe to her (not sexual aggressive but mess with me and I'll fuck you up aggressive) which for some reason I found really attractive and scary at the same time, very weird.

Anyway, got her number at the party and dropped her a message a couple of days later and organsied to meet for a drink the next week.
Date went well, great conversation, plenty of laughs, bit of kino but I totally pussied out on the make out. Very pissed at myself.
However I should point out that she is in the process of getting divorced (at the age of 28, no kids) and is therefore not keen on getting into another relationship, which is fine by me. I could tell she liked me by the body language but then I could see her realise this and consciously correct herself when she started to get too into it.

I then went overseas for a week with work and she snap chatted me the whole time I was over there.
She is now going overseas for 5 weeks (I knew this before our first date) so no chance of a second date for a while.
Questions is, should I respond to her contact while she is away or just ignore her?

I know I shouldn't be giving a crap about the outcome with her but I do and that annoys me.

Went on a date with a bi polyamorus girl

She's fucking several people guys and girls, and mentioned various threesomes, etc. it turned me off and i didn't even want to kiss her at the end of the date.

Perhaps it was a stupid move. I could have used her for threesomes but the burn out is causing excessive aloofness.

It's been coming for a while but one of my plates finally "wanted to talk" tonight. It actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I thought she'd want to go into a relationship or be exclusive so I'd have to let her go but thankfully none of that.
Instead she said that she wasn't down with me "dating someone else at the same time" by which I clarified that she didn't care if I hooked up with other people just that there wasn't someone else I was continuously seeing.
Of course I told her I wasn't "dating" anyone else. Which is kind of true, as she is the plate I see the most (once a week), however I do have other girls I see on a semi-regular basis and of course I'm always hunting for new talent.
She seemed ok with that as we banged afterward. Only time will tell what her hamster makes her do.

Had things end with the German girl that I've been seeing her for the past couple of months.

What basically ended up happening was that I had a moment of indiscretion and intimated that I was seeing her on a regular basis only because I was sick and tired of dealing with the girls and nightlife here in Hamburg. She didn't like that.

After an awkward extended talk I ended up telling her that "if we weren't having sex I wouldn't see a point in us hanging out together." She said that made her feel used and that she couldn't keep seeing me on that basis.

What I realized afterwards was that I truly didn't care whether or not she wanted to keep seeing each other or not. The second she closed the door behind me I was over it. No feelings of guilt or regret at all. I had the notion that, logically, I should feel some sort of guilt or conscience for basically making her feel used - but truly, I couldn't feel anything like that at all.

I'm starting to realize that one of the things that's changed about me in taking the redpill is an increasing lack of ability to emotionally connect with the women I chase - or even to see them as anything other than sexual targets, at all. Even when I daygame, sometimes the girls start to meld into one another - to the point where I'll see one girl and think, for a few seconds, that I've already approached her. They're starting to all blend together.

The redpill's made me completely vacant emotionally when it comes to women. Maybe that's the true sign I've internalized it.

HSLD

Thanksgiving Night - one of the best nights of the year to fuck a (near)stranger

On my way out to see if I can help a chick make some bad decisions tonight

Wish me luck...