What up Unbowed! Funny randomly passing each other by in the city. Felt a little bit like a Fight Club moment there seeing each other in work clothes during midday.

(07-25-2014 12:52 PM)Trev Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 11:40 AM)soup Wrote:  Anyone else get hornier after they have sex?

Absolutely.

I don't utilise Game the same way as the players here as I am in an LTR.

Fucked my girl twice today, she has gone home, but damn am I horny and could easily slide in to some other lizards if they came my way.

But probably just as well I don't since I would drop her like hot coal if she cheated on me.

As they say "I feel you bro" I'm 42 and I've been in LTR's several times. For me I knew it was time when I started thinking more about new "strange" more than I did about the main.

It's a tough road to hoe when you actually have one you care about and you're fighting the urge for strange. Everyone has to choose their own path and sense of right and wrong.

The good thing is you are (apparently) using Game knowledge to maintain your frame in your relationship.

(07-25-2014 12:52 PM)Trev Wrote:  I've been trying to get my Game-denial buddy to take in some knowledge. He has zero Approach Anxiety, but doesn't quite know what to once he has approached. Yesterday he flirted with the sexy lady in my local store, and afterwards asked me to critique his effort. He was pretty good, and was on point with vocal tonality and sexual sub-communication, but no close. He's been flirting with her for over a year now

If your buddy only knew that he's already way ahead of the game by not having approach anxiety. I personally think that's 90% of the game right there. If he's truly fearless then all he needs is a few additional "tools" and he's gonna kill it.

Has he ever read/ visited this forum?

Hey guys, I'm wondering: Is it acceptable to give in?

I mentioned recently a girl who shit-tested me non-stop. I met this chick online. We kiss-closed after a bar date. I went out with her again today and she is the most paranoid girl I've ever had in my company. Every time I escalated she said she had to go (since we hooked up in my car and we both have unavailable homes). That said, she's gorgeous and fun. We went to a bar and had a decent time. She has trust issues because she's never met someone from online and also because she has been traumatically sexually assaulted before.

I wanted to find a way to get us into a private parking lot somewhere so we could bang, but the tests kept coming and coming. After making out at the bar, she asked if I wanted to go out with her friends. She gave me an ultimatum: either I could drop her off so she can go out with her friends or I can come with. I was fed up with her consistently checking her phone to tell her concerned friends that she was safe with me (even though she's seen me before) + I didn't want to see her friends. So I said I wasn't interested. She was ready to leave. We drank a bit more, kissed. I gave in and agreed to go out with her pals because it would allow me more time to open her up. I didn't get the lay (she seems sexually conservative, probably because of the assault claim and her stranger fears), but I pursued and pursued. I got farther than I did last time while escalating, but still not far enough. I'm mad at myself for giving in and chilling with her friends. At the same time, I'm not mad for making out with the girl and touching whatever part of her I pleased as a result.

The girl told me her deep secrets; what's wrong with her life, what she wants, etc. and it was comforting and real. There's a part of me that understands where she's coming from and is willing to put in time to get the bang. But, at the same time, I get annoyed when she goes on her phone and constantly suggests we see her friends. I did McQueen's anti-phone cockblock methods (even the Connery-inspired one) and nothing worked. Whenever I pointed out rudeness it was met with anger.

TL;DR: I gave into hanging with a girl and her friends for slight benefits. Is giving in an anti-Red-Pill thing to do even when it's strategic?

Moreover, any input on this scenario in any way, shape or form (advice or thoughts) would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Renberg

Renberg,

Mixed signals from that one. On one hand, she let you escalate towards sex, which is usually a good sign. On the other hand, she kept you from banging and you listened to a bunch of her problems.

I'd say giving in is not the option to take. It didn't get you what you wanted in this case. But walking away from her invitation to come chill with friends might not have gotten you what you wanted either.

I find it's best to either blow of her counter offer and say she should flake on her friends. Or to say you aren't going but end up going anyway.

Saying one thing and doing another works well for me.

(07-26-2014 10:09 AM)CJ Wrote:  Well, looks like I have another sad story for the old "Girls I should've but failed to bang" thread... ugh, this one stings because it came out of nowhere. I've never had a girl that seemed this involved, just get this distant and then vanish within the span of 5 days.

Did some detective work and found she had an online dating profile, so it kind of makes sense at least. Still lame...

At least I know, I'm never playing the "take it slow" because she might actually be a "nice girl" thing again.

On the plus side, I didn't turn down sex from an ex earlier this week on account of this girl.

Thanks for sharing this. I think it's important for the less experienced and or newer members of this forum to realize that learning never stops. That's a lesson that's applicable to the entirety of life's spectrum of experiences.

By the way my pops (old school player) once told me (when I was 12) "they're all whores except your mom and the one you marry". It took a long time for me to understand many of the "wisdoms" he laid on me but I eventually got it. Later on I developed my own "theorem": "they're all nice when your balls are slapping their chin"

Roll out for lunch break from my office, rocking tailored suit looking sharp. In the metro there are two pretty hot girls, look hipster, sitting contemptuously on the metro floor. I check the hotter one out and she locked eyes. We went on a staring duel, pretty intense and I lost when I saw her put on a kinda mocking smirk (I should have done that first). Out of the corner of my eyes I could see her gesturing her friend to look at me. I pass them by and the other girl also looks.

That was intense, and I cant tell if it was sexual. In my head atm I thought they were mocking me, but I knew it was just my hamster running. I feel both humiliated and excited at my submission. I should have approached and kept eye contact.

Game is the benchmark to which we measure ourselves.

(07-29-2014 12:05 AM)Renberg Wrote:  Hey guys, I'm wondering: Is it acceptable to give in?

I mentioned recently a girl who shit-tested me non-stop. I met this chick online. We kiss-closed after a bar date. I went out with her again today and she is the most paranoid girl I've ever had in my company. Every time I escalated she said she had to go (since we hooked up in my car and we both have unavailable homes). That said, she's gorgeous and fun. We went to a bar and had a decent time. She has trust issues because she's never met someone from online and also because she has been traumatically sexually assaulted before.

I wanted to find a way to get us into a private parking lot somewhere so we could bang, but the tests kept coming and coming. After making out at the bar, she asked if I wanted to go out with her friends. She gave me an ultimatum: either I could drop her off so she can go out with her friends or I can come with. I was fed up with her consistently checking her phone to tell her concerned friends that she was safe with me (even though she's seen me before) + I didn't want to see her friends. So I said I wasn't interested. She was ready to leave. We drank a bit more, kissed. I gave in and agreed to go out with her pals because it would allow me more time to open her up. I didn't get the lay (she seems sexually conservative, probably because of the assault claim and her stranger fears), but I pursued and pursued. I got farther than I did last time while escalating, but still not far enough. I'm mad at myself for giving in and chilling with her friends. At the same time, I'm not mad for making out with the girl and touching whatever part of her I pleased as a result.

The girl told me her deep secrets; what's wrong with her life, what she wants, etc. and it was comforting and real. There's a part of me that understands where she's coming from and is willing to put in time to get the bang. But, at the same time, I get annoyed when she goes on her phone and constantly suggests we see her friends. I did McQueen's anti-phone cockblock methods (even the Connery-inspired one) and nothing worked. Whenever I pointed out rudeness it was met with anger.

TL;DR: I gave into hanging with a girl and her friends for slight benefits. Is giving in an anti-Red-Pill thing to do even when it's strategic?

Moreover, any input on this scenario in any way, shape or form (advice or thoughts) would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Renberg

That's BETA! Just kidding, being alpha/having game doesn't mean be an asshole all the time and showing no emotions. Game is about forming a connection with the girl which then gets you laid(hopefully).
If you enjoy spending your time with this girl, which it sounds like you do, then go ahead and do that. It's a sad thing that she was sexually assaulted once, I went through a similar situation with a girl once. Eventually she caved and I turned her into a real slut in bed, you just have to keep working at it.

Sometimes it's easier to give in, I wouldn't call that in any way beta. You just did what was necessary to advance further to the goal of banging her even if it wasn't pretty.
Now about the phone, that's one thing I wouldn't put up with. Tell her straight up she should ditch the phone while you spend time with her as you want to fully enjoy your time together and have better shit to do than watch her texting her friends.

But remember to never put all your eggs in one basket. Keep some other chicks around. If it doesn't work out with her, fine so what you have other bitches. That way you won't care if it doesn't work out

Thank you, guys. I've gone out with her twice. I'll give her one more shot. I have to plan this next date so that the car bang is plausible. Also, she has to be comfortable enough to want to bang me. Challenge accepted.

Dalaran, you ever try playing up more a mysterious rocker/outsider vibe instead of the squeaky clean cut dude? Like growing your hair out more, dressing darker, using quieter more powerful body language.

I think it might give you an edge in your prestation. Maybe get a black 1960s euro style motorcycle jacket.. Like less of a bright Ricky Martin type thing and more of a mod kind of look.

(07-29-2014 09:55 AM)soup Wrote:  Dalaran, you ever try playing up more a mysterious rocker/outsider vibe instead of the squeaky clean cut dude? Like growing your hair out more, dressing darker, using quieter more powerful body language.

I think it might give you an edge in your prestation. Maybe get a black 1960s euro style motorcycle jacket.. Like less of a bright Ricky Martin type thing and more of a mod kind of look.

No honestly I ve never tried, I do the bad boy style but more like what Mc Queen usually promote, blazer and designer jeans with low v neck or unbutton shirt. At this point I think Im really up for a style experiment now. As long as Im done with my internship Im growing my hair and getting a few more accessories and wife beater to go with my leather jackets. Hell even a tattoo

Can you pm me or post here a few example of such style Soup? So that I dont look like a gay rock star. thanks

Just PM you

(07-29-2014 10:44 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 09:55 AM)soup Wrote:  Dalaran, you ever try playing up more a mysterious rocker/outsider vibe instead of the squeaky clean cut dude? Like growing your hair out more, dressing darker, using quieter more powerful body language.

I think it might give you an edge in your prestation. Maybe get a black 1960s euro style motorcycle jacket.. Like less of a bright Ricky Martin type thing and more of a mod kind of look.

No honestly I ve never tried, I do the bad boy style but more like what Mc Queen usually promote, blazer and designer jeans with low v neck or unbutton shirt. At this point I think Im really up for a style experiment now. As long as Im done with my internship Im growing my hair and getting a few more accessories and wife beater to go with my leather jackets. Hell even a tattoo

Can you pm me or post here a few example of such style Soup? So that I dont look like a gay rock star. thanks

Just PM you

You are asian, right? Something like this but without the makeup:


At least that attitude is what I'm saying. Maybe a more mature version of that- like that's what you were like when you were in a punk band as a kid.

These guys play against the stereotype of Asian nerd or friendzone-beta-boy.

Another round of fitting for 2 new suits this week. Can't wait to get them out in the field and see if either grabs more attention before college starts up.

Might get fitted for 3 new dress shirts too, which would make almost twenty in the past year. Wonder if I have a problem....? [/yes]

Also gonna pick up 2-3 new custom pocket squares. I'm overdue for upgrading these.

(07-27-2014 11:47 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 09:38 PM)YoungDominican Wrote:  Damn...shy girls are a whole nother game. Trying to crack this shy girl, got until next week. She's clearly nibbling. I'm going to go super direct on her now.

Shy girls are awesome, as long as they stay with you, they'll open up. Plus, they are usually kinky as hell.

Full story: The girl is staying with my uncle for a bit along with her mom and little brothers and Im here for a week. Her mom is bat shit crazy and paranoid about me and her daughter. It seems that she have had this crazy delusion that I really wanted her daughter (6) and saw me flirting/kissing this girl (8) and got pissed off. She seems to be beefing with me in her head. .

I'm reaching a point in my game where I'm no longer self conscious about approaching a girl that's surrounded by other people.

Earlier today I approached a girl in B&N that was sitting at a table by herself. She wasn't reading a book but she was talking to another group whose table was adjacent to hers. I walked up to her and asked her where she got her shirt from(it had my school's name) and she said she graduated 2 years ago and have kept it ever since. The whole time I'm talking to her, everyone's eyes are on us and I'm feeling the weight of being watched, but I continued the conversation anyway.

Got the number and felt like a total boss after.

(07-29-2014 06:51 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  I'm reaching a point in my game where I'm no longer self conscious about approaching a girl that's surrounded by other people.

Earlier today I approached a girl in B&N that was sitting at a table by herself. She wasn't reading a book but she was talking to another group whose table was adjacent to hers. I walked up to her and asked her where she got her shirt from(it had my school's name) and she said she graduated 2 years ago and have kept it ever since. The whole time I'm talking to her, everyone's eyes are on us and I'm feeling the weight of being watched, but I continued the conversation anyway.

Got the number and felt like a total boss after.

Ah, you're stepping to another level. Congrats. This is where game starts to get FUN. And when you get good at games, the more fun they are.

I've always loved games where strategy plays a big role: chess, spades, settlers of catan, charades (i'll challenge any motherfucker to some charades)...when you get good at the strategy, can think two steps ahead of the other person, and don't crack under pressure--hello dopamine.

Cheers.

Hostess just came out to talk to me and her boyfriend showed up and have me the mate guarding eyes ha like "you wanna start some shit?"

Probable because I'm dressed very cool right now.

People were moving out of the way for me in the street more today. If you dress like a star, people might believe you are a star.

This is ridiculous. I'm at the airport in Vienna waiting for my connecting flight and they have these lounge couches as part of the seating setup at the gates. There is a girl in front of me, laying on her back and sucking a lolipop in and out of her mouth. It's 9am here and I'm on 3 hours sleep.

Here she goes again. My brain isn't functioning right now to think of an opener, plus she is in all likelihood on my flight. Maybe I'm dreaming all of this, who knows.

Slubu just say anything- like hi or ask her a question "do you know what time it is?" Just to get a conversation going. Maybe just start with "do you speak English?" Like you are going to ask for directions or a recommendation on where to eat.

(07-30-2014 02:22 AM)slubu Wrote:  This is ridiculous. I'm at the airport in Vienna waiting for my connecting flight and they have these lounge couches as part of the seating setup at the gates. There is a girl in front of me, laying on her back and sucking a lolipop in and out of her mouth. It's 9am here and I'm on 3 hours sleep.

Here she goes again. My brain isn't functioning right now to think of an opener, plus she is in all likelihood on my flight. Maybe I'm dreaming all of this, who knows.

When in Doubt, go elderly "Is that a good lolipop ?"

(07-30-2014 08:30 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 02:22 AM)slubu Wrote:  This is ridiculous. I'm at the airport in Vienna waiting for my connecting flight and they have these lounge couches as part of the seating setup at the gates. There is a girl in front of me, laying on her back and sucking a lolipop in and out of her mouth. It's 9am here and I'm on 3 hours sleep.

Here she goes again. My brain isn't functioning right now to think of an opener, plus she is in all likelihood on my flight. Maybe I'm dreaming all of this, who knows.

When in Doubt, go elderly "Is that a good lolipop ?"

Lol, I wouldn't try that for a lollipop. My first instinct would be to ask her where she got it from and say I'm desperate for a sugar hit right now. Then segue into why you need one (because of how tired you are).

Opened a set of 10 girls last night. Made out with one before she admitted she had a boyfriend and exchanged details to keep in touch.

Lollipop girl.

Turns out she was in a group of 3 girls who were way too excited and loud. She was a 6.5, but the level of energy required to keep up with 3 young girls chatting away was too much for me at the time. Of course, I still regret not making the approach.

(07-30-2014 01:07 PM)slubu Wrote:  Lollipop girl.

Turns out she was in a group of 3 girls who were way too excited and loud. She was a 6.5, but the level of energy required to keep up with 3 young girls chatting away was too much for me at the time. Of course, I still regret not making the approach.

There's always going to be fear. The question is which fear are you going to let dominate? The fear of approaching or the fear of regretting not approaching?

Damn, that slut is in fantasy land. Airports need to have 'nap areas' that you can rent out by the hour and take layover bangs.

(07-29-2014 07:14 PM)soup Wrote:  Hostess just came out to talk to me and her boyfriend showed up and have me the mate guarding eyes ha like "you wanna start some shit?"

Probable because I'm dressed very cool right now.

People were moving out of the way for me in the street more today. If you dress like a star, people might believe you are a star.

You know come to think of it, when i was at my companys EOY dinner - I was dressed in a slim suit with a sown in pocket square "Newsreader" style. I got tons of a compliments like GQ, handsom, studly, etc.

It made me feel like I could take on the world, I also found a place that makes super cheap suits that fit good. I really need to invest in some new suits and threads.