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[quote='azulsombra' pid='791501' As to your question about the potential for the average black man to date a cream of the crop Asian-American? .
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I would argue that the "average" man of any type would generally have a hard time of it dating the "cream of the crop " of any other female type......


talking averages and generalities.....right ??
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Exactly.

In the US the average american is making under $50,000 a year and is likely in debt.

The average american male would be a '5' and is likely to date another '5', due to female hypergamy it won't be easy for him
to do better. But if he applies himself he can.

Why be average?

Most people on this forum are not average or at least aspire to be more than average.

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(07-27-2014 05:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Thanks TravelerKai for sticking up for me.

I don't give a fuck about America's "one drop rule." America's racial classifications mean nothing to me nor should they mean shit to any rational minded man. I am a mixed-race man myself so seeing how races combine and mix is extremely interesting. Combine that with the fact that virtually all research on the subject of race mixing is banned due to PC bullshit, and my curiosity only grows.

People need to remember, skin-color is not race. Also, because there is very little research on how race-mixing works, what is unknown is if a racially-mixed person is more like one race or the other? Is it split evenly? No one knows, and this should be a legitimate discussion for inquiry since if you want children someday then knowing how your woman's racial genes will affect your children is important.

Would any man in this forum mate with a woman with down-syndrome? A woman who was born without an arm? A woman with a deformed face? So of course race is yet another consideration to factor. For example, as a Black man, it's probably not such a bad idea to mate with an Asian woman. Consider: Black's typically are associated with lower IQ, but higher sociability. Asians are typically associated with higher IQ, but low sociability. So as a Black man, wouldn't you be interested in having children with an Asian woman who may be able to make children superior to both parents, and have a higher IQ than default Black and higher sociability than default Asian? I personally am mixed with Asian and I am more intelligent than everyone in my family! Seriously, I'm the first guy to have gone to college in almost two generations. Don't tell me this shit isn't real because I get to live it everyday.

I know this shit is taboo, but please have patience with me as my intentions are good. I'm not here to race troll and declare one race is superior to another or anything like that. My opinion is that as rational men, we should look at the races objectively, take the good parts from the bad and pass it on to our children (if you are inclined to have children).

Also, I understand this thread isn't the place to discuss race-mixing. It belongs in another thread. However, my other comment on page 15 (speakeasy has since taken down the pics) was just an observation and I wanted to see what some guys thought about it.

TravelerKai, also thanks for your honesty regarding your own race-mixing. Interesting how your wife did not realize you were mixed. You should ask her if she finds totally dark-Africans attractive, it would be interesting if she said no.

IQ is not just genetic, it is also environmental as well. Overall no one should want a low IQ mate if they can help it. There are also 9 kinds of intelligence, it's a theory much like Evolution but I still heavily subscribe to it. Most of them are not able to be uniformly tested in a standard IQ test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_m...elligences

Overall IQ is a hotly debated topic. It will always be tough to discuss it without someone feeling hurt about it. Most RVFs, especially all the established regulars all seem to be definitely above average on IQ. In a large sense discussions about it shouldn't hurt folks here too much to discuss it every now and then. I never feel hurt about it myself because I had an IQ of 118 at 10 years old, nothing anyone here will say about a black man's IQ is going to upset me. One need only to realize that intelligence is more than just DNA by looking at the multitude of famous black inventors, inventors from Africa, or Neil deGrasse Tyson if you want a recent example.

Actually my wife did think I was mixed when we first met. No she does not find the "blue-black" Africans she saw from Africa attractive. She does think other black american men to be attractive, like my brothers and friends, but usually if they have bodies like mine or better. (large muscles) If I ask her if bruno mars is handsome, she thinks no, because he is too skinny. If I ask her if Tyrese is handsome, she thinks he is pretty good. Ginuwine is attractive to her. It's kinda inconsistent. I kinda stopped caring about that to ask her about it a long time ago to be honest.

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(07-27-2014 08:25 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 05:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Thanks TravelerKai for sticking up for me.

I don't give a fuck about America's "one drop rule." America's racial classifications mean nothing to me nor should they mean shit to any rational minded man. I am a mixed-race man myself so seeing how races combine and mix is extremely interesting. Combine that with the fact that virtually all research on the subject of race mixing is banned due to PC bullshit, and my curiosity only grows.

People need to remember, skin-color is not race. Also, because there is very little research on how race-mixing works, what is unknown is if a racially-mixed person is more like one race or the other? Is it split evenly? No one knows, and this should be a legitimate discussion for inquiry since if you want children someday then knowing how your woman's racial genes will affect your children is important.

Would any man in this forum mate with a woman with down-syndrome? A woman who was born without an arm? A woman with a deformed face? So of course race is yet another consideration to factor. For example, as a Black man, it's probably not such a bad idea to mate with an Asian woman. Consider: Black's typically are associated with lower IQ, but higher sociability. Asians are typically associated with higher IQ, but low sociability. So as a Black man, wouldn't you be interested in having children with an Asian woman who may be able to make children superior to both parents, and have a higher IQ than default Black and higher sociability than default Asian? I personally am mixed with Asian and I am more intelligent than everyone in my family! Seriously, I'm the first guy to have gone to college in almost two generations. Don't tell me this shit isn't real because I get to live it everyday.

I know this shit is taboo, but please have patience with me as my intentions are good. I'm not here to race troll and declare one race is superior to another or anything like that. My opinion is that as rational men, we should look at the races objectively, take the good parts from the bad and pass it on to our children (if you are inclined to have children).

Also, I understand this thread isn't the place to discuss race-mixing. It belongs in another thread. However, my other comment on page 15 (speakeasy has since taken down the pics) was just an observation and I wanted to see what some guys thought about it.

TravelerKai, also thanks for your honesty regarding your own race-mixing. Interesting how your wife did not realize you were mixed. You should ask her if she finds totally dark-Africans attractive, it would be interesting if she said no.

IQ is not just genetic, it is also environmental as well. Overall no one should want a low IQ mate if they can help it. There are also 9 kinds of intelligence, it's a theory much like Evolution but I still heavily subscribe to it. Most of them are not able to be uniformly tested in a standard IQ test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_m...elligences

Overall IQ is a hotly debated topic. It will always be tough to discuss it without someone feeling hurt about it. Most RVFs, especially all the established regulars all seem to be definitely above average on IQ. In a large sense discussions about it shouldn't hurt folks here too much to discuss it every now and then. I never feel hurt about it myself because I had an IQ of 118 at 10 years old, nothing anyone here will say about a black man's IQ is going to upset me. One need only to realize that intelligence is more than just DNA by looking at the multitude of famous black inventors, inventors from Africa, or Neil deGrasse Tyson if you want a recent example.
How ironic! I was just watching this video on the "controversy" of intelligence by Crash Course. It's definitely worth the watch.

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That' a very, very good video. Thanks for sharing that. He spoke too fast, but he covered just about everything very quickly. I liked how he even covered Assesments, the field itself in Psychology. That field is so broad and rife with divergent views among psychologists that specialize in that area, it would blow your mind. My exwife was in that field. I would make the mistake of trying to tag along to try and follow their discussions and seminars and would walk away far more confused than I ever was before it started. I thought my high level of Jungian and MBTI knowledge was sufficient enough to hang, but alas I was wrong. There is so much in fighting in within that field on this stuff, it makes the fighting over addictions being substance based or behavior and the DSM V seem relatively tame in comparison.

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Nice dicussion guys. I know you' re not suppose to make a generalization, but I will. Every black dude at one point had a girl who was a pest to them. I mean daily trash talking and play fighting to the point of a serious agruement that leads into serious threats. The point where classmates or fellow witnesses just say " Y'all should fuck already. " So all the bickering eventually ends either two ways. The last dispute almost led into a fight making both of you sulk off and keep your distance like a bad marriage couple. Or shockingly when the man gets the attention of another girl. That when she decides to be friendly while undermining the relationships. So years later, the two of you meetup and she have a confession. " You know something name? I always thought you were cute. " And you are shocked because you are having flashbacks of her calling you ugly, gay, challenging your manhood, and threaten to get you jump by friends or family,etc.,. What part of the game is that? This black girl method cause a lose-lose situation. At this point, even if you knew the girl like you, you don' t escalate because of the unnecessary drama.
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(07-28-2014 08:58 AM)Jukes Wrote:  Nice dicussion guys. I know you' re not suppose to make a generalization, but I will. Every black dude at one point had a girl who was a pest to them. I mean daily trash talking and play fighting to the point of a serious agruement that leads into serious threats. The point where classmates or fellow witnesses just say " Y'all should fuck already. " So all the bickering eventually ends either two ways. The last dispute almost led into a fight making both of you sulk off and keep your distance like a bad marriage couple. Or shockingly when the man gets the attention of another girl. That when she decides to be friendly while undermining the relationships. So years later, the two of you meetup and she have a confession. " You know something name? I always thought you were cute. " And you are shocked because you are having flashbacks of her calling you ugly, gay, challenging your manhood, and threaten to get you jump by friends or family,etc.,. What part of the game is that? This black girl method cause a lose-lose situation. At this point, even if you knew the girl like you, you don' t escalate because of the unnecessary drama.

I haven't had one of those since Junior Highschool honestly. Lost quite a few bangs and LTRs that way, but I was hopelessly beta, virgin, and probably too obsessed with sports (basketball and baseball), books, pokemon and games, and martial arts. When I got to high school I quickly tried to correct that mess with all those girls, I was way too late. Other dudes had corrupted them big time. Pregnancy, drugs, etc. All of them were good girls too. 2 of those, still bother me inside, a little bit even though I have no real reason to care about that anymore. I guess me treating them like that and ignoring them was part of why they wanted me so badly. I had game before I knew what game was.

This style of conflict used to seem to me like something only black people did, but I bet it isn't due to stories shared with others I met years later, like with my old college classmate from South London. He isn't black, but Indian-white mixed. He had similar experiences.

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(07-27-2014 04:03 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 03:19 PM)pitt Wrote:  I also disagree that Caribbeans, west africans and black americans look the same, I think the differences are quiet strong in the majority of times, specially when you have been around the world.

I am so good in telling where somebody is from that sometimes is just unbelievable. I am currently in Barbados and there are many blacks here on holiday from US, UK and Canada. Right before I talk to a girl, I already know when she is not from here..last night I approached 3 girls with the ''Are you from the UK?'' I was right the 3 times I asked..one of the times when she replied ''yep'' I guessed that one of them was from Nottingham and she was shocked even though the only thing I heard from her was ''yep''. When they were acting as if they were 10s, I would ask them, ''Are you from the US?'' and they were like, ''how do you know?'', I would tell them, ''that attitude never deceives'' and I would just walk away. Note that I didn't need to hear them talking, just how they move, their body reactions and their faces, it was enough for me to tell where they were from. Just like the difference between a black Colombian and a black american is quiet strong, the same applies from blacks from most of places.

Whites from Russia, from Sweden, from the UK and from the US look all different. This is just the damn truth, period.

You are talking about behaviour, pitt not phenotypes (facial features and body types). Cultural difference marks the difference yes. A chinese jamaican behaves much differently than a Chinese guy from China but phenotypically they are the same (or very similar).

An Indo Trini behaves much differently than an Indian from India etc.

Are you telling me that if you see the nigerian football team at the airport, you wouldn't be able to tell where they were from, could you mistake them for being americans? What about the US basketball team, would you mistake them for being from an african country?

Put it this way, even nigerians born in the US or UK look different from nigerians born in Nigeria. I remember when I saw the Nigeria basketball team, I was surprised that those nigerian players were nigerians, anyway, I did a quick check on the internet and found out that most of them were born in the US and they were just playing for the country that their parents come from.

The climate, nutrition and quality of life really makes our facial features different from one another.
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(07-28-2014 09:20 AM)pitt Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 04:03 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 03:19 PM)pitt Wrote:  I also disagree that Caribbeans, west africans and black americans look the same, I think the differences are quiet strong in the majority of times, specially when you have been around the world.

I am so good in telling where somebody is from that sometimes is just unbelievable. I am currently in Barbados and there are many blacks here on holiday from US, UK and Canada. Right before I talk to a girl, I already know when she is not from here..last night I approached 3 girls with the ''Are you from the UK?'' I was right the 3 times I asked..one of the times when she replied ''yep'' I guessed that one of them was from Nottingham and she was shocked even though the only thing I heard from her was ''yep''. When they were acting as if they were 10s, I would ask them, ''Are you from the US?'' and they were like, ''how do you know?'', I would tell them, ''that attitude never deceives'' and I would just walk away. Note that I didn't need to hear them talking, just how they move, their body reactions and their faces, it was enough for me to tell where they were from. Just like the difference between a black Colombian and a black american is quiet strong, the same applies from blacks from most of places.

Whites from Russia, from Sweden, from the UK and from the US look all different. This is just the damn truth, period.

You are talking about behaviour, pitt not phenotypes (facial features and body types). Cultural difference marks the difference yes. A chinese jamaican behaves much differently than a Chinese guy from China but phenotypically they are the same (or very similar).

An Indo Trini behaves much differently than an Indian from India etc.

Are you telling me that if you see the nigerian football team at the airport, you wouldn't be able to tell where they were from, could you mistake them for being americans? What about the US basketball team, would you mistake them for being from an african country?

Put it this way, even nigerians born in the US or UK look different from nigerians born in Nigeria. I remember when I saw the Nigeria basketball team, I was surprised that those nigerian players were nigerians, anyway, I did a quick check on the internet and found out that most of them were born in the US and they were just playing for the country that their parents come from.

The climate, nutrition and quality of life really makes our facial features different from one another.

I'm not 100% sure about facial features, but hair and skin are things I now quickly notice. My exwife is Nigerian, she grew up in the US though. When I met her and she told me she was Nigerian I was blown away because she looked different from the other ones in our college. She had the accent of a blonde Texan woman. She was completely whitewashed in behavior too, which probably attributed to her different looks. If you are not going to eat garri, stew, fufu, yams, and plantains etc. all the time but the junk Americans eat, that might mean something. She used to trick other Nigerians as well. Half of them could tell and half of them could not tell she was. A very small select few could tell she was Yoruba right off the bat. No one ever mistook me for a Nigerian while around her nor would ask.

In fact one time she went to Nigeria for a first time visit and they made her wear her clothes a certain way because they were going to go to certain areas that are a little rough and the locals would instantly know she is an American, and they did not want her to get robbed or harassed.

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(07-27-2014 08:25 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  IQ is not just genetic, it is also environmental as well. Overall no one should want a low IQ mate if they can help it. There are also 9 kinds of intelligence, it's a theory much like Evolution but I still heavily subscribe to it. Most of them are not able to be uniformly tested in a standard IQ test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_m...elligences

Interesting list. It has a flaw of not listing mathematical intelligence. Many people think logical intelligence is the same thing as mathematical intelligence, but they are not the same at all.

Generally, when people speak about IQ they are either measuring logic or math. I agree there is a lot more to the human mind than these two, but there's no denying logic and math are the heavyweights.

Quote:Overall IQ is a hotly debated topic. It will always be tough to discuss it without someone feeling hurt about it. Most RVFs, especially all the established regulars all seem to be definitely above average on IQ. In a large sense discussions about it shouldn't hurt folks here too much to discuss it every now and then. I never feel hurt about it myself because I had an IQ of 118 at 10 years old, nothing anyone here will say about a black man's IQ is going to upset me. One need only to realize that intelligence is more than just DNA by looking at the multitude of famous black inventors, inventors from Africa, or Neil deGrasse Tyson if you want a recent example.

Of course, within any population, no matter the race, intelligence will greatly vary. And your IQ is over 1 standard deviation, you've got nothing to worry about.

I predict your kids are going to be some smart sons of bitches. Just remember the Asian genes grow up slower than other races. I myself was smaller and kept my baby-face until I was 25. Hell, I didn't bang my first 18 year old girl till I was 25. Being Asian means you have a slow start but powerful finish. So most likely your kids will grow up slower than you did, but they will also be smarter, so if you have any sons just be sure to make sure he works hard in his teenage years so he can be a king in his twenties and thirties. You may need to reassure him that even though he's invisible to women at 16, he won't be at 26.

Quote:Actually my wife did think I was mixed when we first met. No she does not find the "blue-black" Africans she saw from Africa attractive. She does think other black american men to be attractive, like my brothers and friends, but usually if they have bodies like mine or better. (large muscles) If I ask her if bruno mars is handsome, she thinks no, because he is too skinny. If I ask her if Tyrese is handsome, she thinks he is pretty good. Ginuwine is attractive to her. It's kinda inconsistent. I kinda stopped caring about that to ask her about it a long time ago to be honest.

Yeah of course you don't need to ask her if she finds every guy attractive or not. However, it doesn't hurt to ask a few generalities and the fact she doesn't find a pure-breed Black attractive is very interesting. Again, this supports the theory that (healthy) women are instinctively attracted to the types of men that will produce superior results.

My last "serious" girlfriend (7 months) told me she preferred mixed-race white guys, and that after we banged and I told her I was part-asian. That's pretty remarkable for women to have preferences like that without even knowing anything about the man they bang. It truly makes me suspect something subconscious is going on.

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(07-28-2014 11:39 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Interesting list. It has a flaw of not listing mathematical intelligence. Many people think logical intelligence is the same thing as mathematical intelligence, but they are not the same at all.

Generally, when people speak about IQ they are either measuring logic or math. I agree there is a lot more to the human mind than these two, but there's no denying logic and math are the heavyweights.
I think you meant mathematical reasoning—there's no such thing as mathematical intelligence. Logic, by its very definition, encompasses areas of abstractions, reasoning, numbers and critical thinking.
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^ Math is stuff like (a * b) + c = x/z.

Logic is stuff like A -> B, ~B -> ~A, A v ~B.

Believe it or not, it uses two very different parts of the brain. I have near perfect logical skills (got a perfect score on my LSAT logic games section) but my math skills are average. Likewise I've met mathematicians who couldn't frame an argument to save their lives.

Logic and math are very different. Early in the 20th century, many logicians tried to prove that math could be reduced to purely logical axioms, and it failed. It was defeated by Godel's Incompleteness Theorem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic#Mathematical_logic

Quote:One of the boldest attempts to apply logic to mathematics was undoubtedly the logicism pioneered by philosopher-logicians such as Gottlob Frege and Bertrand Russell: the idea was that mathematical theories were logical tautologies, and the programme was to show this by means to a reduction of mathematics to logic.[8] The various attempts to carry this out met with a series of failures, from the crippling of Frege's project in his Grundgesetze by Russell's paradox, to the defeat of Hilbert's program by Gödel's incompleteness theorems.

It's a very common misconception to think logic and math are the same, but they are not.

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(07-28-2014 11:39 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 08:25 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  IQ is not just genetic, it is also environmental as well. Overall no one should want a low IQ mate if they can help it. There are also 9 kinds of intelligence, it's a theory much like Evolution but I still heavily subscribe to it. Most of them are not able to be uniformly tested in a standard IQ test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_m...elligences

Interesting list. It has a flaw of not listing mathematical intelligence. Many people think logical intelligence is the same thing as mathematical intelligence, but they are not the same at all.

Generally, when people speak about IQ they are either measuring logic or math. I agree there is a lot more to the human mind than these two, but there's no denying logic and math are the heavyweights.

Quote:Overall IQ is a hotly debated topic. It will always be tough to discuss it without someone feeling hurt about it. Most RVFs, especially all the established regulars all seem to be definitely above average on IQ. In a large sense discussions about it shouldn't hurt folks here too much to discuss it every now and then. I never feel hurt about it myself because I had an IQ of 118 at 10 years old, nothing anyone here will say about a black man's IQ is going to upset me. One need only to realize that intelligence is more than just DNA by looking at the multitude of famous black inventors, inventors from Africa, or Neil deGrasse Tyson if you want a recent example.

Of course, within any population, no matter the race, intelligence will greatly vary. And your IQ is over 1 standard deviation, you've got nothing to worry about.

I predict your kids are going to be some smart sons of bitches. Just remember the Asian genes grow up slower than other races. I myself was smaller and kept my baby-face until I was 25. Hell, I didn't bang my first 18 year old girl till I was 25. Being Asian means you have a slow start but powerful finish. So most likely your kids will grow up slower than you did, but they will also be smarter, so if you have any sons just be sure to make sure he works hard in his teenage years so he can be a king in his twenties and thirties. You may need to reassure him that even though he's invisible to women at 16, he won't be at 26.

Quote:Actually my wife did think I was mixed when we first met. No she does not find the "blue-black" Africans she saw from Africa attractive. She does think other black american men to be attractive, like my brothers and friends, but usually if they have bodies like mine or better. (large muscles) If I ask her if bruno mars is handsome, she thinks no, because he is too skinny. If I ask her if Tyrese is handsome, she thinks he is pretty good. Ginuwine is attractive to her. It's kinda inconsistent. I kinda stopped caring about that to ask her about it a long time ago to be honest.

Yeah of course you don't need to ask her if she finds every guy attractive or not. However, it doesn't hurt to ask a few generalities and the fact she doesn't find a pure-breed Black attractive is very interesting. Again, this supports the theory that (healthy) women are instinctively attracted to the types of men that will produce superior results.

My last "serious" girlfriend (7 months) told me she preferred mixed-race white guys, and that after we banged and I told her I was part-asian. That's pretty remarkable for women to have preferences like that without even knowing anything about the man they bang. It truly makes me suspect something subconscious is going on.

Logical intelligence includes mathematics because mathematics itself all part of logical reasoning.
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The reason why mathematics is associated with reasoning is because numbers can be interchanged with words or other things and it would still need to be logical in order for it to fit the pattern it is trying to prove. Pattern finding and analytic study can involve numbers or words, or both.

It's still a theory at the end of the day, much like much of mathematics itself. For you to think this association is a flaw in that theory was most expected. You are not the first person to say that. If Gardner had made it 10 types instead of 9, by separating that out, it would not be too different in a big picture.

One reason I think he keep it in there, is the idea that before formal mathematics that us Westerners are familiar with, existed in certain civilizations, people still had ways of logically solving puzzles. Construction based ones, quantity counting, etc. If you gave a Mayan construction engineer a modern typical IQ test in his language, would he score high on it? What about an Egyptian pyramid architect? These men were creating math concepts we still use today, but in no way are they not intelligent if they were to score under 80. These men could probably teach a civil engineer or architect a few things today. No doubt if you could bring one here today, his brain would be getting picked for hours.

My kids may not start slower than I did, despite my high IQ, and having smart parents and grandparents, but merely because of the improvement in racial society, class, and general opportunities that we all have now. Not only that, having a red pill father might make things much different as well. I often wonder about if I should write books about being a red pill father after my kids reach a certain age. I wonder what lessons that I thought them worked and which ones were ignored by them and what techniques were useful. My parents did alot with what they had available to them, but technically I should be able to raise a higher standard of children. I do not think they would argue against that statement if you asked them. I hope to have a son some day soon as well. I think he will have a much higher quality of life from having a game aware father. My nephews would benefit as well, like I did from my uncles that are Naturals.

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Traveler, I believe you wrote that right after I made the post about logic and math above. They are not the same, really! It's been proven via logical proof that math cannot be reduced to logic. I read the proof myself, it was the most complex logical reasoning I've ever had to do in my life. Took a month to figure it out. Hardcore stuff, Godel was.

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Yech! Reminds me of the spaghetti mess of why psychologists cannot agree or figure out how to properly assess or test areas of intelligence. Haha!

What you posted and game ethic posted makes sense though.

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Back to the topic at hand.

How do you feel about your offspring being mixed? Then the chances are great that they will marry white and your grandchildren will be white. Look at Slash's mom and now she has white grandchildren.

I have dated mostly non-black females all my life but this aspect always has me thinking.

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(07-28-2014 06:01 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Back to the topic at hand.

How do you feel about your offspring being mixed? Then the chances are great that they will marry white and your grandchildren will be white. Look at Slash's mom and now she has white grandchildren.

I have dated mostly non-black females all my life but this aspect always has me thinking.

I am more worried about her becoming a an idiotic hamster more than who she marries. My families have all sorts of shades and mixtures already. I listed what I am mixed with. What will be interesting is if the Chinese roots will ever expand or not or just vanish into whiteness or blackness. Like if I have any sons will they marry Han Chinese women or marry Western white women? Maybe they will get black women? It would be funny if I had one of each that paired up with each group, like one goes back to black, one goes white, and one goes Chinese or Asian.

Will the future really look like that National Geographic thread in RVF?

Who knows....

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rudebwoy, the Oedipal complex allegedly kicks in regarding mixed relationships. I grew up in London which is one of the world epicentres of mixing black and white and I saw plenty of variables. They say mixed males will go for lizards who are like their mothers so if their mum is white, they will seek out white lizards.
If their mum is black they will seek out black lizards.

For mixed females, the same would probably apply.

I know a mixed guy from Tooting and he usually would go for mixed lizards or black ones. His mum was a black Jamaican.

On the other hand I know another one who had an Irish mum. He would nearly always go for white lizards but he sometimes would smash some mixed ones that came across his path.

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(07-28-2014 07:02 PM)Moma Wrote:  rudebwoy, the Oedipal complex allegedly kicks in regarding mixed relationships. I grew up in London which is one of the world epicentres of mixing black and white and I saw plenty of variables. They say mixed males will go for lizards who are like their mothers so if their mum is white, they will seek out white lizards.
If their mum is black they will seek out black lizards.

For mixed females, the same would probably apply.

I know a mixed guy from Tooting and he usually would go for mixed lizards or black ones. His mum was a black Jamaican.

On the other hand I know another one who had an Irish mum. He would nearly always go for white lizards but he sometimes would smash some mixed ones that came across his path.

I've never heard of this Oedipal complex in mixed relationships. Maybe its a UK thing. Just off the top of my head some of the cats I know with a white mom and black dad:

1 married a half chinese-half guatemalan
1 married another half bw chick
3 married full black chicks
1 is in a LTR with a white chick
1 married a southeast asian chick

Doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason. People just hook up with who they are attracted to. Funny that.

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azul, well the UK outlook on race is very basic. I think America blows it wide open (never been to Brasil).

First time I stayed in Miami (decades ago), one cat I know was light skinned. Based on my limited outlook, I thought he was half white and half black (mixed as we call in the UK). Nope. He was Haitian, perhaps one of his grandparents may have been white or something but he identified as black Haitian.

In the UK, cats would be in a rush to claim that mix. So I guess people are a bit more open across the pond here..or maybe not.

It's quite interesting at times to say the least...

Slightly unrelated but lizards like this (see video) blow away my perspective of race. For the Toronto guys, she's in Toronto so you might buck up on her during your haunts..




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(07-26-2014 08:05 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Please let's get back on the topic, we are all Africans and black people.

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(07-31-2014 11:51 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  This thread needs more Kdolo.

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(07-22-2014 11:30 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  I'm not sold on Brazil being a black man's paradise. Seems most these dudes are just paying for pussy down there.

If you ever find that paradise, STFU!, don't go blabbing about that shit on the internet or your spot might become Simp City, especially if it is somewhere easy to get to for lazy mofos.

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