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RE: Black men rejecting black women
(07-24-2014 04:36 PM)Moma Wrote: Mentavious, I'm getting a lot of hood lizards where I'm at. One of the reasons is, there seems to be a high percentage where I'm at and two is, their guards seems to be down because I have a foreign accent. As long as I don't act too thirsty, I get to eat.
One chatter hit the nail on the head talking about the need to un-game them. Black lizards are repelled by betas.
(07-26-2014 02:51 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Thought you guys might find this interesting. There's this girl in Russia( I don't talk to her anymore), she's from some small provincial town. She's one of the minority of Russian girls with a brotha fetish. I had stumbled across her music blog awhile back as she actually has great tastes in jazz, soul and hiphop and we talked a bit about music and Russia and random shit. She even sent me some mixes that she made. That was a few years ago and I kinda lost touch with her. Anyway, girl is young and pretty hot. She's now in a relationship with some brotha from Vegas who flies out there to see her. Not to be fucked up, but dude is busted. Though from what I hear it's not unusual for Russian women to date below them on the looks scale. I'm not hating, just stating the obvious. I only point this out to show how much shit changes when you're dealing with the international market. I'll post a few of their FB pics so you see what I'm talking about, but I won't leave them up long. Unless this dude has some mini-celebrity fame or jedi mind tricks game, it's very unlikely he'd get with an American white girl that was that many points above him on the looks scale. That's something I see almost never without fame being involved in some way. But lesson here is that rules can change dramatically when you're talking about foreign women. Looking at her recent FB updates, even though they live an ocean apart, she seems to be absolutely crazy about him. She seems like a real sweetheart too and very smart, intellectually. Speaks like 5 languages, reads all these classic Russian and European literature books, knows history.
This guy ain't even that light. He's about a shade or two lighter than me.
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RE: Black men rejecting black women
(07-26-2014 06:31 PM)kdolo Wrote: Serge Ibaka
African American or Congolese -or West African ???
Nnamdi Asomugha
African American or Congolese or West African ???
Lebron James
African American or Congolese or West African ???
I hate to make ad hominem attacks, but to educated people you guys sound retarded.....
Oprah took a DNA test. To my surprise she has zero European ancestry.
http://www.arogundade.com/oprah-winfrey-...icity.html
(07-26-2014 06:40 PM)Moma Wrote: kdolo is right. I mentioned this before. When people travel they will realise black people look the same. Caribbeans, West Africans, black Americans look the same. It's culture and behaviour that makes the difference. Dress them all in the same outfit and you can't tell the difference.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a Nigerian but you could swop him in for any of the millions of black Americans and you would never know. The list goes on.
The foreign lizards don't really give a fcuk and can't really tell. I used to hit a white lizard for two years that didn't even like Africans.
Yes, and know. I think many are interchangeable, but I generally can spot Africans pretty easily amongst African-Americans. They just have somewhat stronger features, on average. I know in some cases you can't tell, but I think the majority of the time, I can easily tell apart an African-American from an African. You need to fine tune your eye. Just like Koreans can tell a Korean apart from a Chinese or Japanese. Outsiders might not know the difference, but they can see the subtleties.
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RE: Black men rejecting black women
(07-26-2014 07:16 PM)kdolo Wrote: (07-26-2014 07:07 PM)Fortis Wrote: Eh, I mean, I think a lot of men are rejecting black women because a lot of them don't take their health seriously. Obesity is fucking absurd in the black community. I'm light (about 150) and I feel like it's rare when I see a black woman that I outweigh. Now, I know I'm a thin motherfucker, but when a chick who is 5'4 has got 20 pounds on me you know shit is fucked up.
As far as leaving the country for women? I think that's a bit drastic for me, but I cannot judge. If you can't get what you want here, then by all means go elsewhere.
As far as the attitude on black women, I hear shit like this way too much: "i'm not fucking with a nigga if he can't pay my bills or buy me a pair of shoes." Now, I don't know about you, but to me that sounds like straight up prostitution. I could buy a chick a pair of shoes and get laid? I may as well fuck a prostitute, because the second a guy who can buy better shoes for her comes along, she'll drop my ass.
However, I do respect that they're open about it.
Obesity is a problem. agreed.
Leaving the Country ?? check it out. your mind will be blown.
Women and bill payment:
ALL women will want resources from a man at some point especially when the relationship transitions from pleasure sex to "relationship". This is the nature of the beast. We want sex They want security/resources.
Thats how nature made it... dont bash the girls too much for that...
in all societies just about - where the woman has freedom - you are at risk of her dropping you of she finds a a richer, more handsome, more famous, more powerful man ...... that's how nature made it. its called HYPERGAMY and is perfectly natural and normal.
Agreed, but I think it's hysterical when these women say shit like this and then wonder why they're 28+, fat, ugly and single. I'm not mad at them and I'm not condemning them for their nature, but I find it funny when women become so alpha that they flaunt their shit like that and wonder why it doesn't attract their target group (men who've made it past 30 without fucking up horribly).
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RE: Black men rejecting black women
(07-26-2014 07:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote: (07-26-2014 06:31 PM)kdolo Wrote: Serge Ibaka
African American or Congolese -or West African ???
Nnamdi Asomugha
African American or Congolese or West African ???
Lebron James
African American or Congolese or West African ???
I hate to make ad hominem attacks, but to educated people you guys sound retarded.....
Oprah took a DNA test. To my surprise she has zero European ancestry.
http://www.arogundade.com/oprah-winfrey-...icity.html
Does she use skin lighteners/brightners/toners? She has an army for makeup and hair teams as well.
In many ways that does not surprise me. Some black or African Americans are not mixed with any European. Skin colors can vary within the same groups, which is why different groups within Africa have different shades compared with some neighbors. Even before Alexander's time, not all Egyptians were very dark.
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(07-26-2014 07:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote: (07-26-2014 06:31 PM)kdolo Wrote: Serge Ibaka
African American or Congolese -or West African ???
Nnamdi Asomugha
African American or Congolese or West African ???
Lebron James
African American or Congolese or West African ???
I hate to make ad hominem attacks, but to educated people you guys sound retarded.....
Oprah took a DNA test. To my surprise she has zero European ancestry.
http://www.arogundade.com/oprah-winfrey-...icity.html
(07-26-2014 06:40 PM)Moma Wrote: kdolo is right. I mentioned this before. When people travel they will realise black people look the same. Caribbeans, West Africans, black Americans look the same. It's culture and behaviour that makes the difference. Dress them all in the same outfit and you can't tell the difference.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a Nigerian but you could swop him in for any of the millions of black Americans and you would never know. The list goes on.
The foreign lizards don't really give a fcuk and can't really tell. I used to hit a white lizard for two years that didn't even like Africans.
Yes, and know. I think many are interchangeable, but I generally can spot Africans pretty easily amongst African-Americans. They just have somewhat stronger features, on average. I know in some cases you can't tell, but I think the majority of the time, I can easily tell apart an African-American from an African. You need to fine tune your eye. Just like Koreans can tell a Korean apart from a Chinese or Japanese. Outsiders might not know the difference, but they can see the subtleties.
Thanks this is spot on. Chinese know the difference between a Korean and a Japanese walking around in their own countries. There are exceptions like the Chinese in the the Jilin province has lots of Koreans and Korean mixed Chinese in there and it is very hard to tell at times.
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RE: Black men rejecting black women
(07-26-2014 07:47 PM)TravelerKai Wrote: You picking random pictures of American citizen "blacks", athletes at that, does not prove anything. Some Americans are indeed first or second generation removed from Africa. In fact some of those Africans you posted are mixed as well. The Boateng brothers for example are mixed. But we are talking about everyday West Africans, Congo citizens, and Black Americans. Not some handpicked athletes. Have you ever seen people from the Congo while in China? I have. They look nothing like what most black Americans look like. It's not a fucking diss at them or anyone. It's just the damn truth. They look different. Not all foreign women are stupid enough to think all "black" people look alike. When you guys try to force identify all dark-ish people in the Americas as "black" without any regard for their mixed heritage, you are doing exactly what the bigoted forefathers of this country setup and intended us to identify ourselves as (1% drop rule). ..........................................
blah blah blah blah
nothing you have said here today or next to none of it makes any sense.........
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I also disagree that Caribbeans, west africans and black americans look the same, I think the differences are quiet strong in the majority of times, specially when you have been around the world.
I am so good in telling where somebody is from that sometimes is just unbelievable. I am currently in Barbados and there are many blacks here on holiday from US, UK and Canada. Right before I talk to a girl, I already know when she is not from here..last night I approached 3 girls with the ''Are you from the UK?'' I was right the 3 times I asked..one of the times when she replied ''yep'' I guessed that one of them was from Nottingham and she was shocked even though the only thing I heard from her was ''yep''. When they were acting as if they were 10s, I would ask them, ''Are you from the US?'' and they were like, ''how do you know?'', I would tell them, ''that attitude never deceives'' and I would just walk away. Note that I didn't need to hear them talking, just how they move, their body reactions and their faces, it was enough for me to tell where they were from. Just like the difference between a black Colombian and a black american is quiet strong, the same applies from blacks from most of places.
Whites from Russia, from Sweden, from the UK and from the US look all different. This is just the damn truth, period.
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(07-27-2014 03:19 PM)pitt Wrote: I also disagree that Caribbeans, west africans and black americans look the same, I think the differences are quiet strong in the majority of times, specially when you have been around the world.
I am so good in telling where somebody is from that sometimes is just unbelievable. I am currently in Barbados and there are many blacks here on holiday from US, UK and Canada. Right before I talk to a girl, I already know when she is not from here..last night I approached 3 girls with the ''Are you from the UK?'' I was right the 3 times I asked..one of the times when she replied ''yep'' I guessed that one of them was from Nottingham and she was shocked even though the only thing I heard from her was ''yep''. When they were acting as if they were 10s, I would ask them, ''Are you from the US?'' and they were like, ''how do you know?'', I would tell them, ''that attitude never deceives'' and I would just walk away. Note that I didn't need to hear them talking, just how they move, their body reactions and their faces, it was enough for me to tell where they were from. Just like the difference between a black Colombian and a black american is quiet strong, the same applies from blacks from most of places.
Whites from Russia, from Sweden, from the UK and from the US look all different. This is just the damn truth, period.
You are talking about behaviour, pitt not phenotypes (facial features and body types). Cultural difference marks the difference yes. A chinese jamaican behaves much differently than a Chinese guy from China but phenotypically they are the same (or very similar).
An Indo Trini behaves much differently than an Indian from India etc.
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RE: Black men rejecting black women
Thanks TravelerKai for sticking up for me.
I don't give a fuck about America's "one drop rule." America's racial classifications mean nothing to me nor should they mean shit to any rational minded man. I am a mixed-race man myself so seeing how races combine and mix is extremely interesting. Combine that with the fact that virtually all research on the subject of race mixing is banned due to PC bullshit, and my curiosity only grows.
People need to remember, skin-color is not race. Also, because there is very little research on how race-mixing works, what is unknown is if a racially-mixed person is more like one race or the other? Is it split evenly? No one knows, and this should be a legitimate discussion for inquiry since if you want children someday then knowing how your woman's racial genes will affect your children is important.
Would any man in this forum mate with a woman with down-syndrome? A woman who was born without an arm? A woman with a deformed face? So of course race is yet another consideration to factor. For example, as a Black man, it's probably not such a bad idea to mate with an Asian woman. Consider: Black's typically are associated with lower IQ, but higher sociability. Asians are typically associated with higher IQ, but low sociability. So as a Black man, wouldn't you be interested in having children with an Asian woman who may be able to make children superior to both parents, and have a higher IQ than default Black and higher sociability than default Asian? I personally am mixed with Asian and I am more intelligent than everyone in my family! Seriously, I'm the first guy to have gone to college in almost two generations. Don't tell me this shit isn't real because I get to live it everyday.
I know this shit is taboo, but please have patience with me as my intentions are good. I'm not here to race troll and declare one race is superior to another or anything like that. My opinion is that as rational men, we should look at the races objectively, take the good parts from the bad and pass it on to our children (if you are inclined to have children).
Also, I understand this thread isn't the place to discuss race-mixing. It belongs in another thread. However, my other comment on page 15 (speakeasy has since taken down the pics) was just an observation and I wanted to see what some guys thought about it.
TravelerKai, also thanks for your honesty regarding your own race-mixing. Interesting how your wife did not realize you were mixed. You should ask her if she finds totally dark-Africans attractive, it would be interesting if she said no.
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(07-27-2014 05:55 PM)Samseau Wrote: Thanks TravelerKai for sticking up for me.
I don't give a fuck about America's "one drop rule." America's racial classifications mean nothing to me nor should they mean shit to any rational minded man. I am a mixed-race man myself so seeing how races combine and mix is extremely interesting. Combine that with the fact that virtually all research on the subject of race mixing is banned due to PC bullshit, and my curiosity only grows.
People need to remember, skin-color is not race. Also, because there is very little research on how race-mixing works, what is unknown is if a racially-mixed person is more like one race or the other? Is it split evenly? No one knows, and this should be a legitimate discussion for inquiry since if you want children someday then knowing how your woman's racial genes will affect your children is important.
Would any man in this forum mate with a woman with down-syndrome? A woman who was born without an arm? A woman with a deformed face? So of course race is yet another consideration to factor. For example, as a Black man, it's probably not such a bad idea to mate with an Asian woman. Consider: Black's typically are associated with lower IQ, but higher sociability. Asians are typically associated with higher IQ, but low sociability. So as a Black man, wouldn't you be interested in having children with an Asian woman who may be able to make children superior to both parents, and have a higher IQ than default Black and higher sociability than default Asian? I personally am mixed with Asian and I am more intelligent than everyone in my family! Seriously, I'm the first guy to have gone to college in almost two generations. Don't tell me this shit isn't real because I get to live it everyday.
I know this shit is taboo, but please have patience with me as my intentions are good. I'm not here to race troll and declare one race is superior to another or anything like that. My opinion is that as rational men, we should look at the races objectively, take the good parts from the bad and pass it on to our children (if you are inclined to have children).
Also, I understand this thread isn't the place to discuss race-mixing. It belongs in another thread. However, my other comment on page 15 (speakeasy has since taken down the pics) was just an observation and I wanted to see what some guys thought about it.
TravelerKai, also thanks for your honesty regarding your own race-mixing. Interesting how your wife did not realize you were mixed. You should ask her if she finds totally dark-Africans attractive, it would be interesting if she said no.
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RE: Black men rejecting black women
(07-27-2014 01:43 AM)speakeasy Wrote: (07-26-2014 10:22 AM)Samseau Wrote: It's funny that guy is considered a black man, when in reality you can clearly see from his skin tone he has mixed white genes already. He's not african dark at all. If he were to have kids with her, the chances are high most of the kids would come out lily white. I've seen mulatto/purebreed-white mixes before, and the results are usually white as snow.
So I wonder if girls subconsciously know if their kids will come out "good" (by white standards) as a result of the mix. I really think girls have some kind of subconscious thing directing them when it's time to have kids.
Meant to reply to Samseau earlier on this. Not sure why it's funny he's considered black. His facial features and hair look overwhelmingly of African descent. This guy wouldn't even be considered light skin. Not dark skin either but maybe medium tone. I don't know what his DNA mixture is, but I'm sure he's far from half white because most people that are half white don't have such strong black facial features(wide nose thick lips, kinky hair). Look at Obama or Rasheeda Jones.
You do bring up one good point though, that often times having one black grandparent means that person will not look of African descent at all. Some people(and I often hear racists say this as justification for the one drop rule) say that black features are so strong that it takes many generations for them to become indistinguishable. But that's not really true. Often it's just two generations.
I was just reading an article about former Guns N Roses guitarist Slash. He's half black and white. His mom is actually pretty dark:
![[Image: family-slash-02-mother-ola-hudson.jpg]](http://www.slashparadise.com/background/family-slash-02-mother-ola-hudson.jpg)
He has kids from a white woman and his kids look entirely white.
![[Image: slash-perla-hudson-saul-cash-london-ibiza-family-1.jpg]](http://www.babyrazzi.com/files/2012/07/slash-perla-hudson-saul-cash-london-ibiza-family-1.jpg)
More pics from Slash's family:
http://www.voicesofeastanglia.com/2013/0...rents.html
Show me a white guy who wouldn't bang, and I'll show you a liar.
Both of Slash's parents were attractive, and he came out attractive. His kids have light hair and probably will be faster/taller/more sociable due to the black inheritance from his father.
Now the interesting question to ask: What would Slash's children have looked like had he mated with a black woman? Besides having black skin, what other features would they have?
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(07-25-2014 06:28 PM)TravelerKai Wrote: (07-25-2014 04:29 PM)azulsombra Wrote: (07-25-2014 03:31 PM)TravelerKai Wrote: (07-25-2014 03:12 PM)azulsombra Wrote: (07-25-2014 02:31 PM)speakeasy Wrote: Yeah, there are also a ton of black models that date white men. I can't recall all their names right now. But I'd be willing to bet that the majority of black models are dating white men. How many white or Latina models do you see dating black men? I feel like other men have access to the top 10% of our women, but we don't have access to the top 10% of theirs.
Honestly, even in L.A. it was a rare day that I saw a black man with a woman of ANY race(including black) that was over a 7. Now if you're famous like Eddie Murphy with the blonde in the pic above, then you can bend the rules. But you don't see brothas that aren't famous with chics anywhere near that quality.
Admittedly tho Speak u have made it known that you have no patience for the hollywood scene (where many of the LA 7s and above are concentrated) and I dont think u spend much time in Baldwin Hills, Long Beach etc and the black LA scene so it makes sense that you wouldnt be seeing those kind of couples with any regularity.
Sometimes I feel like we lived in different cities. Check out a poppin hollywood club on a saturday,... any saturday or 3rds st promenade on a Sunday...any sunday and tell me u wont see any brothas with a 7 or above.
America is not pussy paradise for most brothas but its not pussy paradise for most white dudes either and nowhere near as hard as it would be for a Indian dude for example. Important to keep it all in perspective.
That's a fair statement. I do not know speak's background well enough to comment on that, but even my small victories with non blacks in the 7-10 range here feel too unique to just me. Your average black guy is not going to date a two 7's and one 9 Asian woman even once in the US. The amount of work I put in was very hard too.
But what about long term in CA? You say it's alot better there. Are any of these catches capable of longterm dating? Or are all these prospects just mere lays? McQueen has said many times that game is hard out there in LA. He said if you could game there, you could game anywhere else. Is any of that long term possible?
Me and Speak hangout so we talk about this stuff a lot. The hollywood scene is not easy for a brotha or anybody else to get a 9. But u get what u put into it, if u cant get an 8 or 9 in LA its not your race thats holding you back, could be your looks, swagger, connections, game or something else thats lacking.
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u said the average brotha isnt gonna date two 7's and one asian 9 in the states? Dude, ive never even seen an Asian 9 in the states and I live in Socal. The average brotha isnt attracted to Asians and the average asian chick isnt into brothas in the states so that goes both ways. But for the record I do have a homie from New Jersey that moved to LA and just married a Asian chick. This is his second marriage but dude is so yellow I wouldnt even call him black. He looks like the producer swizz beatz.
You never seen an Asian 9 or a 10 before? I dunno what to tell you man. Are you one of those kind of guys that says Scarlett Johansen is a 9 because there is no such thing is a 10? I have been to LA 2 times so I do not know what you guys have over there or not enough to know.
I do not understand what is so offensive about what I said. Your average black man. YOUR AVERAGE black man. Do you know what average means? Not the one going to college and graduating with a 3.8 GPA in finance and drives a new 7 series at 28 years old. Not you and all the black men you probably hang with if you guys are good at killing it out there in Cali. Most black men in this country do not live in California. Most do not even live in Texas for that matter. We all spread out. We cannot all date fly honeys. I'm not putting down on any blacks in here or outside of RVF. I'm making an honest assessment here. Most guys get 4-6 women and are usually content with that more or less. That is just an honest life assessment. Asians are not that commonplace all over the states in all areas in the first place. So the access already is low. Most stick with their own kind like others have said in this thread. So that makes the availability even lower. So with that said, how likely is your average black man going to be able to date Asian women in the 7-9 range in the United States? If you think it is likely you need to flesh out more details as to why you think that way. This is not about whether or not Black guys are attracted to Asian women or not. I'm talking about availability and access.
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Nothing you said was offensive to me, I didn't take it that way. I said I never saw an asian 9.......in the STATES. I have been to Asia before and I saw better looking women there. I have absolutely zero yellow fever though. I've seen cats drool over average looking Asian women before just because they are Asian, but to each their own. Not hating just making an observation. As to your question about the potential for the average black man to date a cream of the crop Asian-American? Very unlikely due to the reasons you just stated. I never argued otherwise.
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RE: Black men rejecting black women
(07-27-2014 06:47 PM)pitt Wrote: Kdolo what about using some arguments instead of attacking members without any constructive arguments?
You obviously haven't followed this thread.
All I do is drop knowledge with constructive arguments....
but there comes a point where you realized that you are either being trolled or dealing with someone with very low reasoning capacity.....
I am still trying to decide which....
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