A lot can happen within an hour. I'd go with option 1 and bang her in your car.

She'll thank you later for being her first car lay. (Assuming she's never done it before)

Had day 1 yesterday with McDonald's girl (will now refer to her as Fiona in the future). Get ready for story time RVF this one's a monster post.

Met her on Friday, didn't text anything til Sunday, set up for Tuesday. Nothing special, kept to mostly logistics until.. the shit test (or at least I registered it as one.) Whether I handled it well or not, it worked out so that's the main thing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can get away with a lot more shit when you're in a chair.

[after logistics of setting up for Tuesday]
Her: Did you pick up any other redheads on Friday?~
Me: Theres a weight limit on my chair *sends a picture of Fiona from Shrek*~
Her: Woah I think I might make a much cuter looking Fiona~
Me: Pfft prove it - green dress braided hair~
Her: As you wish Gingerbread man ~

Notes:
~ I'm thinking either she's trying to test me to see if I'll say no, adding value to her and her "uniqueness" - or, questioning my value in the sense of is this a regular thing for me or not. Regardless, in light of idgaf and that magical attitude I went for it. I'm unsure if this would be too far without given my situation - thoughts?

~ Now keep in mind this girl is as petite as they come, you'd be asking for trouble if you send this to a fattie but I drive a chair not a forklift. I was betting on her either to try and validate (she seemed to respond best to being "dominated" or inferior so that's what i banked on) or at the very least find it funny, pass the test and move on.

~ Trying to validate herself to me

~ Give her a chance to validate via an act of compliance (she delivered btw )

~ For those of you that don't know, in the Shrek movie the gingerbread man is interrogated and has his legs broken off. Yes.. this girl just made a clever handicap joke XD Idk if I should have responded or not, I actually laughed pretty hard but didn't want to say so and add value. Thoughts?

Fast forward to Tuesday, to meet at a coffeehouse/bistro place. I live in a pretty small town, and this place is close to my house so I just rode in my chair and didn't drive. I get there a few mins early and head towards a booth, park my chair and transfer out (I have use of my legs but I can only stand for about 5 minutes before I'll pass out from blood pooling in my limbs and not enough in my brain). About a minute later I check my phone and she texted me that she just got dropped off and is almost there.

She walks in and this girl did not disappoint, when I first saw her when she was working she obviously had her uniform on so regardless of her really feminine face, it did a pretty good job of hiding her body and she ranked a 7. She came in a shortish (mid thigh or so) lacy green dress with her hair braided across the front and down the side, an easy +1 to make her an 8. As a firm believe in 10's don't exist, this put my mind on edge which is something I'll have to work on.

We're talking and she's giving me "the eyes" and I'm putting in as much kino as I think I can get away with. I don't recall saying before but when i actually do stand up I'm extremely tall (just over 6'7") so my arms, legs, fingers all that are really long. This combined with the size of the table and her sitting on the edge of her seat (basically a living green light at this point - literally) I was able to sit up straight and still be able to reach under the table to her thighs.

I see her glancing at my empty chair (that i conveniently parked beside the table pretty much blocking the view of under the table). I start to think of how I'm going to approach this and decide next time she looks I'll talk about it. Meanwhile, I'm thinking of how I'll frame it - I could play it sensitive and straight forward - tell her straight up, or make a joke and tell her. Since I'm used to making jokes about it anyways I went that route.

*she looks at the chair*
Me: Have you seen White Chicks?
Her: Omg yess I love that movie!
Me: Yeah, *motion to the chair* a big black guy bought me at a bachelor auction.
Her: *giggles* You're so funny but I hope I don't get put in a chair *smiles as she gives me the eye*~
Me: You can ride with me in mine
Her: So no problem with the weight limit then? *doesn't move her lower body but arcs her back and pushed out her chest*
Me: We'll have to see about that *gives I'm going to fuck you eyes*

I then tell her a little about my medical stuff (specifically why I'm in the chair), it's really not first day material so we'll see how that goes and she seemed to be happy that I had use of my legs.

A little while later, she gets a call from her mom that her and her dad are going out in a few mins and she needs her to come home to look after her little brother. (I'm not sure if this was a call for "that's enough time" blah blah blah or if it was legit but one thing was for sure, my girl didn't want to leave ). She told her mom to take him with them, no go, can you go out later?, no go, finally she says fine when will you be home says ok i'll walk and hangs up.

She looks at me, and says she's really sorry she tried (she did) and asks if I'll walk her home. My first thought was that betas would walk her home, but I'm very glad I had the second epiphany (parents out, all signs point to green) this is not gonna be a beta move, a beta would be butthurt and leave.

We start to head out and I realize that I don't know where she lives, like a mind reader she tells me and it's about a 10 minute walk. I start to budget my time, continuing the vibe I had going at the coffeehouse. Once we get to the top of the hill (coffeehouse is at the bottom) and continue down a bit on a flat portion I start to slow down and she mirrors me and we come to a stop.

*she looks at me*
Me: Lets go Fiona *grab her hips and pull towards my lap*

She bites her lip and sits on my lap, she doesn't get seated quite right so I take my hands, one under her legs - the other under her ass and I lift her up to position her better. As I do I feel her breathe kind of "tensely" not quite sure if she wasn't expecting that or what but when I put her back down I put my right hand back towards the joystick and my left hand went to her inner thigh. At this point her face is literally inches from mine, she looks in my eyes and I notice them look down towards my lips. It's on like Donkey Kong. I lean forward and she takes the cue, although I may have leaned forward, that was it - the what followed was all her. We start making out on the street (about 5 mins off the main drag at this point so it's just us around). This honestly has never happened quite like this before, I thank everyone on the forum for the treasured info because without you guys this day would never have happened. She reaches with her right hand and grabs my hand on top, laces her's between and moves it to her ass. I should have moved it myself but having her want that was beyond hot. My left is still on her inner thigh and you can sense the motor starting to purr.

We continue down the street, right hand driving, left across her lap and grabbing her ass, think like a human seat belt. Continuing to talk and as we get really close to her house I ask how old her brother is.. low and behold? He's a baby.

Now I'm thinking there's no parents, the only cock block I'm facing is if her brother is starts to fuss. We get to her house, no cars in the driveway (wasn't 100% sure they were out already or if they'd wait til she got back) but that's a good sign. She asks if I want to come in for a bit and see her brother (yea sure.. that's why.. ) I park in her garage (no pun intended) she gets off and I stand up straight for the first time with her, her face? absolutely priceless. Put my hand on the small of her back, lead her forward as she asks about my height and in we go.

She asks me if I want to sit while she gets some drinks, I do, she comes back and stands in the doorway with drinks. That's my cue to go see her brother. We go and if not enough things can go right he's asleep. She takes the baby monitor and here's me thinking we're going back downstairs nope. She turns the other way from the stairs and takes me to her room. Go in and I'm pretty much at my max for standing so I b line it for her bed. I lay propped up on my headboard and pat the spot beside me. She comes over the make out continues and after a little bit she's on top of me. She takes off my shirt and since my hands were on her ass (learnt that she liked it as much as I did pretty quick) I start to pull at her dress. It's up above her ass now and that's step 1 complete. I start feeling around for where it zips off and find it at the top, I grab it and she giggles and puts her head down kissing my chest (I'm not much aesthetically in the muscles department since I can't handle the gym medically but part of my rehab is to work out as much as I can at home). Now that her face is out of the way of mine I can get a good look at the zipper. I start slow (idk if I should have went fast from the start or not) but as it's going down I notice something. The lime green thong she's sporting Now if you just look at that it's just a thong right? but then you think did she really match it all for a reason..

After seeing that, and being an ass man that zipper was down faster than Usain Bolt. Once it was down she sits up gives me the eyes and bites her lip as she pulls the front down.. revealing? you guessed it a lime green bra to match. This girl can't be over 90 lbs, with what seems like half those allocated to her tits and her ass. Things start to escalate even more as she moves down off my lap, pulls the rest of her dress off and starts to undo my belt.

All I start thinking is that baby monitor better not go off but that quickly exits my mind as she starts to blow me. She keeps looking up at me with that look, hard to describe it but those who have seen it know what I mean. I start grabbing at her tits as she's going at it, then reach up and unclip it, she sits up as it falls off. Enter a set of anti gravity tits, she turns and backs up into what would have been 69 if we were closer in height.

Being an ass man, tits are nice but that's what really turns me on. I pull down the thong and the cherries just keep coming, I start to finger her rub her pussy and in goes the scout. She gasps and asks is that my finger - and I'm like nah its my other dick (my fingers are really long, my middle finger being 5 or 6 inches) she giggles and continues to blow me. Little bit later I go for it and turn her around she's now facing me and my fingers are still inside her as she basically starts to fuck them, I'm not moving them as she goes up and down. I take this as my cue and I reach for my dick, she obviously knows what's up and says no. I wasn't gonna rawdog her anyways but I figured that's what she meant aka get a condom. I say in my wallet then, again she says no. At this point my mind is racing though the "mental RVF" as to what should I do. I decide to not react, and not push through. I figured as much as this could be just LMR as she's certainly shown plenty of green lights along the way but something was telling me it wasn't that. I don't say anything but decide to finish with a bang - of sorts atleast. I proceed to finger her faster than I took down the rest of that zipper and she starts to wriggle around as I'm squeezing her ass. I move my left hand and push against her chest and slam her down on her back. Her eyes widen and I probably could have just cave manned her right there but I didn't.

After that I grab her braid and use it to lead her onto me. I was edging along and now go for endgame. I push her face towards my dick and she starts slow - not the time for that so I start to push her head up and down faster. I say that I'm going to burst so I bring my legs together with her torso in between and flip her back over on her back as I finish. I thought there wasn't gonna be much of a firing range but I was wrong once again, few good ropes to end one of the best nights of my life.

Not that much happened after that, she looked at me and rubbed my cum with her fingers. Got her a box of kleenex and she cleaned herself up. I got out of there soon after that and she said she was going to go finish getting cleaned up. Told me the garage code to get my chair and off I was. Also, one more stroke of genius - 2 cans with 1 daughter home = visitor so took my can, got dressed and bounced.

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I have a buddy's bonfire and camp out on Friday so, I'm thinking me and Fiona will get a little "red hot" there . Still have to set that up but I'm sure she'll be game, just logistically getting her at an overnight will be interesting. Anyone have any advise for that?

I hope you enjoyed that monster post as much as I did at the time as well as writing it. Please critique as much as possible because there's no way this will happen all the time.

Broda

Can we get a TL;DR? ^

(07-23-2014 03:32 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  Can we get a TL;DR? ^

TL;DR Wheelchair game, gave her a ride home on it, passed through LMR, BJ with an artists touch.

PS Good stuff Broda, I noticed alot of the girls I know I'm gonna fuck and they know its one always match undies and bras or wear something hot as fuck the first time you bang them.

Just had ten minutes to kill and that was a great read Broda. Congrats.

I got bored being with my milf even though we're up 9300 gambling. Im feeling she's catching up to my player antics.....

Reading Day Bang by Roosh. I can feel my game literally increasing by the page.

(07-24-2014 12:41 AM)simondice Wrote:  Reading Day Bang by Roosh. I can feel my game literally increasing by the page.

It's deceiving, because your knowledge is increasing but your actual game is barely at all. Game books teach you what to do, but you have to go out and practice what you read to build up the "reference experiences" (to borrow an RSD phrase) you need to be able properly and confidently execute what you've been taught. That' when your game actually increases.

Thanks a lot Christian for the advice on my body language. Its true Im still faking it till I make it so my body language is very rushed, which could give an uncool vibe. I ll work on it.

I remember you said to have open, dominant body language that takes up a lot of space. Wouldnt stretching your arms kinda like this make you more dominant? Why do you say they are they girls stuff?



@Deluge: yeah Im saving up for a pair of elevator shoes. Cant seem to find heel lifts inserts here in France, and frankly whenever I wear inserts it hurts my feet like crazy. Thinking about getting one of these here:

https://www.bugarrishoes.com/?languageID=en

Those shirts are dress shirts, they are made to be tuck in no? McQueen wear it tuck in in those pics. I recently asked a friend to alter all my tshirts so now I can untuck them

He's saying don't get all broadway/jazz hands expressive with your body language.

A man uses his hands for two things: grabbing or taking things and pushing/punching things away.

Go check out the thread called "video on interesting body language"

You want to draw all the attention towards your crotch,

Imagine each social situation as a painting. Your dick has to be the center of light. That's where your energy needs to be flowing from.

All your bod language should be about drawing women towards the center of your sexual energy.

You want to make your groin accessible to them at all times. Never guard it. Frame it with your hands casually relaxed in your pocket with your thumbs point towards it or through belt loops.

The focus of iron mans body language in that picture is definitely his crotch, which you would probably see more clearly if they framed it lower. It's as if he's offering his cock to the world in that still.

Thanks Soup. You guys are awesome

For now one of my problem is how to translate the dominance body language I have with my gf to other girls I want to game.

With my Korean gf Im cool and dominant as fuck without even have to think about it, but its easy to be masculine when your girl is cute, totally submissive and call you daddy

With girls I havent fuck, especially white blonde petite girls, I fidget more and my frame got pussy whipped. It sucks.

(07-24-2014 02:51 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 12:41 AM)simondice Wrote:  Reading Day Bang by Roosh. I can feel my game literally increasing by the page.

It's deceiving, because your knowledge is increasing but your actual game is barely at all. Game books teach you what to do, but you have to go out and practice what you read to build up the "reference experiences" (to borrow an RSD phrase) you need to be able properly and confidently execute what you've been taught. That' when your game actually increases.

Yes, but I can see some of the mistakes I've made lately, and now I know how to correct them. Of course, it only matters if you practice it.

Broda great story, when is part 2?

(07-24-2014 10:14 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  Broda great story, when is part 2?

Thanks Nascimento,

Called Fiona about an hour ago while I was out, I'm not really experienced in the call vs text decision but I figured since it's not gonna be a cut and dry thing (logistics of getting her overnight). I had said about the bonfire/camp out to her before but nothing much else, gave her details. She was/is game for it, told her to call a friend for a fake sleepover and I'd pick her up from the friend's house and we'd go.

I don't know if there's a better idea but that'd be for future reference because it worked out this time. She called one of her friends and called me back, she says that its all set up if she can come to the bonfire as well. If we were texting I could have posted about it but since it was a call I couldn't really do that. I said I'll find out and to have her text me a picture of her (compliance, plus since it's not my party I'm not gonna just say it's ok) k's are exchanged and we hang up.

Get a text from the girl - we'll call her Amy for future. The dice must be loaded because she's Asian (looks Korean, easy 7) - my buddy loves Asians. Forward the picture on to my buddy explain the situation, get a text back "For sure man you know I could never say no to an asian chick - dibs."

Texted Fiona this time, everything's a go and to give me Amy's address and I'll pick up there. Responds saying they're going to the mall right now anything special I want her to wear. (Green happens to be my favorite colour so I was in luck last time) I say to go for purple get the works and yoga pants.

We're all green lights gents, I have a pretty big tent but my chair is going underneath as well so there'd only be space for 2 anyways.

Any advise on how to play the "third wheel" would be appreciated.

Broda

(07-24-2014 02:39 PM)Broda Wrote:  Any advise on how to play the "third wheel" would be appreciated.

Man idk somethings wrong with my main harem girl she's acting all weird. Had plans to hangout after i gymed. I ended up getting a trim and missed her call and text.

Give her a call could tell she was in a bad mood and I ask what the deal was, she was driving aimlessly, her fam was drama and their remodeling the only bathroom they have. I didnt get into details. Could tell she was angry and irritated.

Anyways I told her im headed to the gym and she said well im gonna stay here and drink smoke to chill out. Im all whats your deal and some sexual jokes about releasing her frustration with me. I was gonna say no babe just come over.

I almost caved in and said fuck the gym i got shit at home I need to do. In the end i told her go just go smoke, eat, and call me after.

You fellas think I did decent ?

Im honestly glad i held my ground and didn't cave. I dont wanna deal with a moody woman.

Lord knows whats going through her head. I need some new prospects that are as hot as this main one.

Luckily im out of town this weekend to Lake Havasu.

I found a way to make flake less annoying. Book a girl or many girls at the same time when you would normally do something that has the same value of meeting her. Say tonight Im going to train aikido, but I do that 4-5 times per week and there are a few girls that I enjoy being with. For me training and meeting these girls have roughly the same value. But training will always be there while logistics sometimes mean you cant get the girl every week.

This way if the girls dont come then I head up to the dojo and kick ass. Flake stings less.

(07-25-2014 03:40 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I found a way to make flake less annoying. Book a girl or many girls at the same time when you would normally do something that has the same value of meeting her. Say tonight Im going to train aikido, but I do that 4-5 times per week and there are a few girls that I enjoy being with. For me training and meeting these girls have roughly the same value. But training will always be there while logistics sometimes mean you cant get the girl every week.

This way if the girls dont come then I head up to the dojo and kick ass. Flake stings less.

Read day bang for tricks to reduce flaking, Roosh dropped some gold nuggets there.

Is day bang really better than Bang? I still havent used all the material I could in Bang

It's not better or worse, it's just different. You could call it a subset of Bang, explaining in a lot of detail one part of it while assuming that you know the other parts well. I found it very useful, but I'd be hard-pressed to stick a label like "better" on it. It's just in a different category.

Banged out this little French girl who has friggin awesome tits.

My interest in girls in like a goldfish's memory.

I'm constantly losing it and finding more attractive girls.

Just when I think I'm have a chick that's all that, I see another that I want.

(07-25-2014 04:27 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Is day bang really better than Bang? I still havent used all the material I could in Bang

Day Bang had a huge effect on my game. Highly recommend. It's the best thing on indirect game I've read.

(07-25-2014 04:27 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Is day bang really better than Bang? I still havent used all the material I could in Bang

Not better, just different. There are more subtleties in day game than night game.
The thing about meeting girls during the day is that you could scare them, even after saying the most innocuous sentence. I thought I had a good method, but Roosh's is far more sophisticated. I complement my style with his method and the results are deadly.

Highly recommended.

European guys RVF'rs are taking game to a whole new level, getting girls to come straight to their place, instadating them, basically skipping the most steps for the most optimal result.

I'm really motivated to begin simplifying getting laid.

The more I game, the more I wonder why there are haters of sources such as RVF. Because game isn't about the success or prosperity of an organization; but it's a focus on the individual. As some of you know, I'm relatively new to the forum (3-4 months) and before joining, I've always had trouble talking with cute girls. Last night, I went out with a gorgeous girl, utilized everything I've learned and passed an insane amount of shit tests. Game's all about self-improvement. Before we made out at the bar, this cute chick said things to me I never expected to hear, such as: "I don't know about you...You're either an asshole or really funny" -- one of the best compliments from a chick I've ever gotten. Just a thought I've been having a lot lately that I'm sure everyone has too. The Red Pill isn't a way to get away with disrespecting others; it's a way to achieve your goals by recognizing the proper ways to act in given situations. There's nothing better than feeling an increase in self-confidence and self-worth while you're in pursuit of things that you didn't think you could capably pursue.

I have a game-related question also. So much of the manosphere is spent discussing when to text a chick back, how many days to wait for a date, etc -- and it all revolves around the need to not come off as desperate. But, wouldn't you only come off as desperate if you ARE desperate? I text a girl back when I'm available, whether it's 2 minutes after or 5 hours after her text. I went out with that girl last night. I'll either hit her up tonight or tomorrow because I'm free early next week and am going to try to secure the bang then. Do noted time requirements matter?

Renberg