(06-07-2014 06:56 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 03:32 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 03:24 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I got cockblocked by my ID last night....

Just when I was about to get a room I realized that I didn't bring my ID with me and couldn't book a room.

hahhaaha my ID cockblocked me a bit back too!

In my case, I had given the girl a fake name. Way fake.

I was tabbing out after our last drink and we were on our way to my crib. Waiting to get my card back, I tossed my wallet on the bar top. I have a wallet that has a clear plastic screen on the front you put your ID in. Well that clear plastic thing was facing up.

All of a sudden she says "Well is that so *Real Name*"

I look down, realize my ID is showing, that she busted my lying to her. I of course tried to play it off, saying it was a joke and all in fun and she needs to lighten up and have some fun once in a while.

But hard to recover from that within a couple minutes. Paid for my drink, she didn't want to come to my place anymore, because she had no idea what I was even telling the truth about etc, etc, etc.

Given more time I could have (and have in the past) recovered, but the fact it happened right at the end of our last drink kinda fucked me.

I give my OKC dates a fake name and it adds a level of anxiety as I run into people I know IRL all the time.

How would one recover from giving a fake name if she finds out or how do you fess up yourself without making her think you're weird.

You could tell her it's your middle name. You don't like it so you use the other one

(06-07-2014 02:56 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(06-07-2014 06:56 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 03:32 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 03:24 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I got cockblocked by my ID last night....

Just when I was about to get a room I realized that I didn't bring my ID with me and couldn't book a room.

hahhaaha my ID cockblocked me a bit back too!

In my case, I had given the girl a fake name. Way fake.

I was tabbing out after our last drink and we were on our way to my crib. Waiting to get my card back, I tossed my wallet on the bar top. I have a wallet that has a clear plastic screen on the front you put your ID in. Well that clear plastic thing was facing up.

All of a sudden she says "Well is that so *Real Name*"

I look down, realize my ID is showing, that she busted my lying to her. I of course tried to play it off, saying it was a joke and all in fun and she needs to lighten up and have some fun once in a while.

But hard to recover from that within a couple minutes. Paid for my drink, she didn't want to come to my place anymore, because she had no idea what I was even telling the truth about etc, etc, etc.

Given more time I could have (and have in the past) recovered, but the fact it happened right at the end of our last drink kinda fucked me.

I give my OKC dates a fake name and it adds a level of anxiety as I run into people I know IRL all the time.

How would one recover from giving a fake name if she finds out or how do you fess up yourself without making her think you're weird.

You could tell her it's your middle name. You don't like it so you use the other one

Or just say it's a nickname? Use a fake first name and a real last name?

Pretty much, these last 2 months I've been going out to nightclubs and house parties etc. like never before and im really starting to see the dots connecting. For example what clubs and what days, what attire works best for what type of occassion and venue. Since im not 21 yet alcohol is out of the equation but im starting to consistently pull girls to dance with less blowoffs and it's nice to see the time you've been putting in is actually paying off.

I have long ways to go but the idea of me developing my night game in the way that I am now only gives me the mentality of invincibility when I think about the future (when I finally turn 21) and alcohol will be a nice addition to my game arsenal.

I'll I can say to other players out there is to keep gaming and even if you have a shit night, dont give up on it and know you have the next day or week to make it happen. What you put into something is what you get out of it.

I wanted to have nice openers at hand and go to the clubs once in a while but although some lines worked perfectly fine for another player it failed for me, but why? Because I simply had to get in there for myself and understand the why behind the lines that other player used. You have to calibrate your game, you've got to tailor it to your fitting, your style but simply you just have to get in there and put the time in.

Im no where near where I want to be game-wise and havent even been close to pulling a ONS especially since LA and myself have shit logistics but I can tell you guys as a fellow day gamer and introverted kid, its all comes down to the time and work you put into something. No excuses, simply take action.

So thanks to every poster on this forum. Keep working on your personal endeavors and putting in quality time and there will be no reason for you not to see results.

Keep hunting players!
OMYG

Had an awesome night, opened sets like crazy, got 2 makeouts and 2 #. One of which was a very strong lead. She was touching me like crazy, giggling, staring into my eyes, and we also made out. I told her that "we're going out for coffee tomorrow" and she seemed genuinely interested. I got her #, went home/to sleep, and this text "exchange" occurred about 10 hours after we last met:

Me: What's up (girl's name), it's Don
Her(after 10 minutes): Hey Don. I'm pretty good. Wbu?
Me(after 15 minutes): I was feeding my crow(SIDENOTE: i just got a baby crow that i'm taking care of, she knows about it, i even showed her pictures of it, bla bla) :> I hope you didn't forget about our agreement from last night 22pm at X spot is ok with u?

And she still didn't reply back. Now granted it's "only" been 1 hour since, it's still possible that she will reply, but i still feel like my text game is really weak. I'm not confident in it at all, i actually hate it. Do you guys have any tips for improving my text game? I currently:
>try to push for the day 2 asap;
>mirror her timing and style of texting;
>Use minimal grammar and emoticons
>Rarely use question marks or exclamation marks
>Try to establish rapport by using "us" and referring to stuff that we discussed last time we met

I recommend doing online game purely to learn text game. You'll have lots of practice and understand the nuisances of text game with a large volume of women.

a question for others here

From my report on the previous page, how do you deal with the cockblocking beta that works at the venue?

I remember soup had a similar problem with that bartender at the bar he visits.

(06-08-2014 07:32 AM)Don Wrote:  Me(after 15 minutes): I was feeding my crow(SIDENOTE: i just got a baby crow that i'm taking care of, she knows about it, i even showed her pictures of it, bla bla) :> I hope you didn't forget about our agreement from last night 22pm at X spot is ok with u?

And she still didn't reply back. Now granted it's "only" been 1 hour since, it's still possible that she will reply, but i still feel like my text game is really weak. I'm not confident in it at all, i actually hate it. Do you guys have any tips for improving my text game? I currently:
>try to push for the day 2 asap;
>mirror her timing and style of texting;
>Use minimal grammar and emoticons
>Rarely use question marks or exclamation marks
>Try to establish rapport by using "us" and referring to stuff that we discussed last time we met

You have a crow? That's fucking awesome. It is late spring and a lot of young birds attempt to fly before they are ready and are left stranded on the ground. Is that how you found it?

Crows are smart as fuck. I bet you could train it to be your wingman and use it to fly around and land on your shoulder at the park and do little dances. Girls love that shit.

Make sure you feed the crow frequently. Young birds need to eat every hour. Don't let that crow die.

All you should be doing is inviting girls over to come 'feed the crow'. Give them a little eyedropper and have them drop in food when the little guy opens his beak up. The girl will get all maternal and revert back to her animal instincts. Pounce on that pussy right after the crow gets fed.

Talk to the crow, ask it questions about your text game and you may get some insight. Crows are known to be purveyors of justice and you should ask them for answers if you feel that you have been wronged. Many people view the crow as a powerful spiritual guide.

The crow might say "you're reply after texting the girl about me was soft like my feathers, you should have just assumed the date was happening. Never use phrases like 'i hope you didn't forget' or ' is it ok with you'. That makes you sound weak. You are not weak, you are a warrior, a protector of the crows. You make decisions and let the silly female humans follow you. And try not to text to much, just set up locations and logistics. Those electric screens you people stare into all the time make you forget about the natural world, forget about the crows..."

hahaha

Goldmund drops a crow game datasheet

I love rvf

(06-08-2014 09:33 AM)Goldmund Wrote:  You have a crow? That's fucking awesome. It is late spring and a lot of young birds attempt to fly before they are ready and are left stranded on the ground. Is that how you found it?

Crows are smart as fuck. I bet you could train it to be your wingman and use it to fly around and land on your shoulder at the park and do little dances. Girls love that shit.

Make sure you feed the crow frequently. Young birds need to eat every hour. Don't let that crow die.

All you should be doing is inviting girls over to come 'feed the crow'. Give them a little eyedropper and have them drop in food when the little guy opens his beak up. The girl will get all maternal and revert back to her animal instincts. Pounce on that pussy right after the crow gets fed.

Talk to the crow, ask it questions about your text game and you may get some insight. Crows are known to be purveyors of justice and you should ask them for answers if you feel that you have been wronged. Many people view the crow as a powerful spiritual guide.

The crow might say "you're reply after texting the girl about me was soft like my feathers, you should have just assumed the date was happening. Never use phrases like 'i hope you didn't forget' or ' is it ok with you'. That makes you sound weak. You are not weak, you are a warrior, a protector of the crows. You make decisions and let the silly female humans follow you. And try not to text to much, just set up locations and logistics. Those electric screens you people stare into all the time make you forget about the natural world, forget about the crows..."

Yes I did find it on the ground, in front of my apartment. I can't bring any girls over unfortunately, i live in a shitty apartment with my whole family - which is is really fucking me up, since most young girls also live with their parents. Regarding the messages coming from a weak frame: this is because in the past i've always erred on the side of being too much of an asshole and now i'm trying to tone it down. I've had some good results, but i still need practice to find the right balance.

The girl ended up apologizing for taking so long to reply, said she was sick and offered to reschedule. I found Roosh's Texting Guide and it cleared a lot of stuff for me. I will also definitely take your advice Valhalla's and start doing some online game, i reckon it can add a lot of value as long as it's done right.

Things that i learned these past days:
- Girls that are hanging out by themselves after 1AM are gold on 2 legs. They're usually very receptive and the chances for a SNL are high with them.
- I really need to stop cutting off short a very good set for a phone# with the hopes of continuing at a day 2. I should push the interaction as far as it can possibly go.
- I think i'm missing out on a lot of opportunities by not opening mixed sets.

So yesterday was a success. I was out early (10:30) at one of my college bars near my university till closing time

and I began the night talking to a lot of girls, getting in that social mood, pulling them out to the patio, joking with them, trolling them, escalating and making out. No pulls but I can see my game increase really well every time that I go out.

During this night, I made some valuable connections with guys who got game and I can learn from. They also got a place on-lock and know all the staff. They're in frats and the amount of pussy these guys bring is mind-bogging, and since I brought them girls, they'll take care of me now. We bonded over some shenanigans at 4:00 am.

I'm trying an exercise of having no more than three drinks, which I think is the sweet spot for me when it comes to gaming. Sober gaming actually allows me to have better interactions because I'm on my 5 senses doing this. I'm also learning to weed out which girls are DTF and which girls are not, and I'm surprised every time it's sometimes not what it looks like, example:

1) Girl with lower back tattoo grinding on my dick soon after I make a couple comments, and is hitting my arm because of my playful sarcasm, pull her in the smoking patio and she wont have it.

2) Girl who looks like a flower-wall and is kinda quiet is looking at the center with her breast pushing out. Make out and took her to her house in 2 hours.

The things that worked best:

1) A booming voice and spread out, dominant body language are money.

2) Touching right away and being aggressive/sarcastic work.

3) “I am afraid that woman appreciate cruelty, downright cruelty, more than anything else. They have wonderfully primitive instincts. We have emancipated them, but they remain slaves looking for their masters, all the same. They love being dominated.” - Oscar Wilde. Making fun of them, being rough with them, making fun of other guys/dj and girl's eyes just light up. I know right, Duh! , but every time is more internalized, which makes me think that this pc vanilla culture is a plot to dominate the world and emasculate guys (again, duh)

4) Being dominant is the key during the whole interaction at night. She doesn't make any decisions, she follows my lead. I'm the CEO, she's my secretary. If the girl starts saying she wants to go here or there, and changing frame, it's time to take control. If you bend, you can forget it pal, you're not hitting that tonight.

5) Not accepting numbers! fuck numbers unless the girl absolutely has no other choice. I want pussy, not a phone, leave them for daygame but when I go out, I'm getting laid or nothing. This all or nothing is bringing out the killer instinct in me

(06-08-2014 11:54 AM)Don Wrote:  - I think i'm missing out on a lot of opportunities by not opening mixed sets.

You're missing out, dude. Sometimes opening mixed groups (best if it's one guy with a lot of girls) is better than opening a set of two girls because:

1) If the guys got different females, and they think you're cool, they'll introduce you and make a "cold" approach, a warm one.

2) "women are not disarmed by compliments, men are" - Oscar Wilde. Tell the guy he got cool shoes/style or tell him that you thought he was a football quarterback and they'll love you (no homo). When rolling solo, you need to make allies, and becoming cool with promoters, alpha guys is the way to go. You don't compete with these guys (sometimes) because they got an abundance mentality. Make them work for you, they'll introduce you to girls, invite you to cool parties later, help you hook up with their girls, and you bring girls to them and they'll repay the favor exponentially.

Remember, girls in pairs of two's and mixed groups with one alpha male is the way to go. Most fruitful results comes from that.

I think I'm getting a case of oneitis for my main chick...

Friday night I dropped off this annoying, but very fuckable, girl and her three male roommates at their place and they invited me in for a couple of beers/to play cards. After the card game was over, the chick comes and sits on my lap and asks me to rate her tits on a 1-10 scale (Gave 'em a couple of squeezes, they were nice) but I told her they were 7s. I thought about taking her down for a second but actually felt a bit of guilt- I've cheated on every girl I ever dated. She was asking for it and I couldn't bring myself to easily close her. Need to snap out of this somehow.

(06-08-2014 11:54 AM)Don Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 09:33 AM)Goldmund Wrote:  You have a crow? That's fucking awesome. It is late spring and a lot of young birds attempt to fly before they are ready and are left stranded on the ground. Is that how you found it?

Crows are smart as fuck. I bet you could train it to be your wingman and use it to fly around and land on your shoulder at the park and do little dances. Girls love that shit.

Make sure you feed the crow frequently. Young birds need to eat every hour. Don't let that crow die.

All you should be doing is inviting girls over to come 'feed the crow'. Give them a little eyedropper and have them drop in food when the little guy opens his beak up. The girl will get all maternal and revert back to her animal instincts. Pounce on that pussy right after the crow gets fed.

Talk to the crow, ask it questions about your text game and you may get some insight. Crows are known to be purveyors of justice and you should ask them for answers if you feel that you have been wronged. Many people view the crow as a powerful spiritual guide.

The crow might say "you're reply after texting the girl about me was soft like my feathers, you should have just assumed the date was happening. Never use phrases like 'i hope you didn't forget' or ' is it ok with you'. That makes you sound weak. You are not weak, you are a warrior, a protector of the crows. You make decisions and let the silly female humans follow you. And try not to text to much, just set up locations and logistics. Those electric screens you people stare into all the time make you forget about the natural world, forget about the crows..."

Yes I did find it on the ground, in front of my apartment. I can't bring any girls over unfortunately, i live in a shitty apartment with my whole family - which is is really fucking me up, since most young girls also live with their parents. Regarding the messages coming from a weak frame: this is because in the past i've always erred on the side of being too much of an asshole and now i'm trying to tone it down. I've had some good results, but i still need practice to find the right balance.

The girl ended up apologizing for taking so long to reply, said she was sick and offered to reschedule. I found Roosh's Texting Guide and it cleared a lot of stuff for me. I will also definitely take your advice Valhalla's and start doing some online game, i reckon it can add a lot of value as long as it's done right.

Things that i learned these past days:
- Girls that are hanging out by themselves after 1AM are gold on 2 legs. They're usually very receptive and the chances for a SNL are high with them.
- I really need to stop cutting off short a very good set for a phone# with the hopes of continuing at a day 2. I should push the interaction as far as it can possibly go.
- I think i'm missing out on a lot of opportunities by not opening mixed sets.

-The crow is your source of power. I bet its a huge reason why that girl gave you her number in the first place.
-Keep name dropping the crow with every interaction you have. Do not underestimate its influence.

MDMA and game:

I took some mdma before I went out on Saturday. I met a girl on the street and 15 minutes later was in her apartment. She mounted on top of me but because of the MDMA I could not get aroused, I tried but it was like that part of my mind was closed off. Eventually I gave up and rolled over to look at her side table. There was a container of Nutella with a spoon inside. I started laughing and said "do you sit IN BED and eat Nutella with a spoon". She got upset and kicked me out so I went and found my friends. I also met Steven Adams (the OKC player).

There's a trick called hammerheading where you take a viagra along with the MDMA to avoid any erection issues. You'll have a killer headache the next day hence the name.

(06-08-2014 03:02 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  -The crow is your source of power. I bet its a huge reason why that girl gave you her number in the first place.
-Keep name dropping the crow with every interaction you have. Do not underestimate its influence.

You're just being a dick now, not even remotely funny.

(06-08-2014 06:55 PM)Don Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 03:02 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  -The crow is your source of power. I bet its a huge reason why that girl gave you her number in the first place.
-Keep name dropping the crow with every interaction you have. Do not underestimate its influence.

You're just being a dick now, not even remotely funny.

Too bad i can't edit my original post, but i just had to add that i just realized you were being passive-aggressive this whole time, but you made sure that you sugar-coated your post by adding some tidbits of info so you wouldn't be warned for posting trash and for trolling. I'm pretty disappointed to realize that douchebags like you have rep and have not yet been banned, i guess you take your time to disguise your trolls. I have to admit it was pretty successful, i'll give it an 8/10.

Went on a date with a girl who talked about her ex a lot and moved my arm away when I put it around her back to stop me from "making moves the first date." It was probably a shit test but between that and the ex-talk, I was turned off. I do have regrets and will try again.

Its funny how whenever I visit my hometown and go out I instantly get in the zone and am like a king. I'm not by any means famous but people know me around. This is really weird, and I want to transfer this to work anywhere I'm gaming and not just back home. Anyways its gonna be a fun summer again, 1,5weeks in, 4 new notches so far.

(06-08-2014 04:29 PM)draguer Wrote:  MDMA and game:

I took some mdma before I went out on Saturday. I met a girl on the street and 15 minutes later was in her apartment. She mounted on top of me but because of the MDMA I could not get aroused, I tried but it was like that part of my mind was closed off. Eventually I gave up and rolled over to look at her side table. There was a container of Nutella with a spoon inside. I started laughing and said "do you sit IN BED and eat Nutella with a spoon". She got upset and kicked me out so I went and found my friends. I also met Steven Adams (the OKC player).

When I was young I used to do a lot of MDMA; I stopped because I started to scare myself with my ability to just get anyone to do anything whilst I was flying.

I'd wake up with girls who I'd met the night before with no recollection of how they got there or more importantly, what I'd said to them; my brain would say anything at all to get them into bed. I began to fear that moment of waking up and not knowing wtf had happened the night before!

For many years I used to carry a small amount of MDMA powder to take before having sex. Just a small pinch swallowed inside a rizla packet and I could fuck all night long.

I stopped all that many years ago though as I thought it was only a matter of time before I managed to kill myself somehow!

Valhalla, I'd just try to avoid the whit knight staff member if I were you.

On a different note, a regular who broke it off with me over Xmas texted me out of the blue the other day. Guess I had some kind of impact on her.

Had a former regular that I 'unsubscribed' contact me out of the blue, she got soft next because of her insistence on a "traditional relationship"

After her earlier dismissal, her subsequent texts had gone ignored

*Total radio silence* - crickets

She open me Sunday with this: "I'm very, very horny and am looking to see if you want to get together and fuck today"

Later...

"I'm asking because I know you're awesome at it and I haven't been with anyone else."

Nice try on her part, but no dice

Also no soon as I stepped out of my house on Saturday, this spanish cutie (7.5) opened me with "Damn, you smell good"

Turns out she had 6 kids, and a bf that handcuffs (He literally sits outside sometimes until her shift is done)

Of the 5 senses, we cover touch, hearing (voice), and sight most extensively on RVF, but never underestimate the power of attacking ALL 5 of a chick's senses. Talking to women over the years, inevitably they will mention wanting a man that "smells good" as something on their wish list.

Can't count how many regs over the years have asked for a t-shirt that smells like me that they can wear to bed.

Play On...

I, for one, found the crow comments pretty entertaining.

Thought I was done with online game [pof, okcupid, badoo] in my opinion can produce to many dates. Too many dates equal to much money spent. There are the occasional Nempho's I enjoy on there where 2 cocktails at 9pm will get you laid for a weeks without any additional dates. Overall most women I meet online have a glaring reason why they are single. However shit like this weekend always bring me back to online game.

Pretext; I live in Mexico(rosarito beach) and North San Diego.

This weekend online ......

I just so happen to be taking to one U.S. chick and one Mexican chick. They both were free for Saturday. The U.S. chick during the day [suppose to hit the driving range that day. Prefer this activity since I'm pretty good at golf and 320yrd drives should make her wet] and the Mexican chick during the night[nothing specific planned for her]. Even though I scheduled a meet with both I was only gonna do one. Didn't want to be crossing the boarder that much on a Saturday. Now both girls have a kid, not an issue for me. The U.S. chick I was sure had a 2 min. plus it was a day date which usually means no sex anyway. So I decided to go with the Mexican chick.

Online dating from my experience on each side of the boarder is 10x easier than its U.S. counterparts. So get this; the chick lives in TJ while I live 20 miles away in Rosarito. I got her to take a taxi ($4) to rosarito where I promised to meet her. She rolleled up looking better than the pictures which is a nice plus. We walked to my house which took less than 5 minutes. I showed her around the place and she had no reservations about going into my house after kbiwing me for less than 5 minutes. Thos is not so common on the U.S. Side. Made her a cocktail and we left to go watch the sunset on the beach. Perks of a beach house . Wasted 40min. Doing that then went back to the house for another cocktail. Small talk blah blah, I put on some music and bust out a deck of UNO cards. Fellas don't under estimate the power of UNO. I have yet to meet a girl that doesnt like UNO. In her case she needed a refresher course and I don't mind teaching. However on my UNO games I add a twist. Since one on one each player writes on a piece of paper what you want the other person to do and fold it to the side. Now usually you stary with a layup like dance to a song or massage a body part. Eventually after a few cocktails you get to making out or even suck my cock on a folded up paper. Just depends on how far you think the chick will go. Well this chick was ready to go after I had won the second game. I ended up banging in almost every room in the house. The next day [she stayed over] we hit a movie mid-day the new Tom Cruise joint [pretty good movie]. *sidenote movies are $4 in Mexico. I dropped her off at home at that was my weekend of online dating. Still can line up the U.S. chick for later this week. She was kinda fine so I still might see how that goes.

To sum up the whole thing.....internet dating is way better in Mexico. Chicks arent hung up on the $60 to $80 dinner like in the U.S.

Pics below of the two chicks online from the weekend.

Is it alpha or beta to have a hard on when a hot girl hugs you? I know it's alpha to not care but I'm talking about the intrinsic of just having a boner at the moment.