Post: #401

Never mind, I misread. I thought you said Daygame Overkill was more K selected than your game.

Post: #402

Daygame is the best way to meet women.

Night and online game give you sluts.

Social circle requires insane amounts of investment.

"Lifestyle" game is for fags.

P4P gives you whores.

What else is there?

Daygame 4ever.

Post: #403

I feel like a girl would bail very quickly if this same material was coming out of my mouth. They're sticking with him through multiple pauses and lots of basic, tedious questions.

Has Roosh ever done an approach video?

Post: #404

Never done daygame but respect to you guys who've got the balls to do it.
I was on the bus earlier and there were TWO absolute stunners (My idea of 9's)! Both about 17 years old (16 is legal here no matter how old you are).
I'm like 30 and I just couldnt bring myself to do it. Didn't have the balls to open either one on a packed bus where neither of us could escape. Plus they were earing ear buds. Tried to channel my inner TonyHustle but I couldn't do it lol. I feel like crap now though, if i'm honest!
I got a painful rejection last night, and this feels just as painful even though I didn't even get 'rejected' (other than by myself!)

Post: #405

Its the only way to meet women today. Requires a lot of balls.before you approach smile to the girl first .she if she smiles back then go talk to her, i do not recommend moving sets.

Post: #406

Daygame was a pretty important part of my life. I'll break down how it played out for me:

Age 16-17: Daygamed constantly at a local community college. My buddy and I would go during our free period/lunch and approach. I probably talked to at least forty to fifty girls a week, got good at getting numbers. Zero success cause I was a high school kid living with his parents still figuring out the ropes of game. With that being said I had some awesome experiences, met some cool people in the process, and ended up losing my virginity to a girl I met in high school

Age 18-19: Didn't daygame as much because I went to a huge party university with a great night scene. I went on one daygame run in sophomore year -- did thirty to forty approaches and found a girl who I would FWB for almost two years.

Age 20: Transferred to a new school, stopped seeing the FWB, started daygaming again. I was in way better shape (spent a year rowing/wrestling and powerlifting) and had a lot more confidence. I ended up successfully hooking up with six girls purely off of daygame -- all of them were pretty hot.

Age 21: Realized I was sick of running around campus for hours every day just to have sex -- found a girl I actually liked and "settled down" with her.

In terms of effort vs reward, daygame is one of the worst returns out there. I probably made upwards of a thousand approaches and actually smashed seven to eight girls off of it. I don't think daygame greats like Roosh or Krauser are doing that much better either -- maybe finding success with one out of every fifty to sixty girls. With that being said it can do wonders for your confidence (if you're a newbie), make you fearless when it comes to talking to people, and help you attract women who you meet in other areas.

Like Scorpion said, it's a tool in your kit -- it shouldn't be your entire kit. I personally know a guy who has been daygaming nonstop for the past five years and has had absolutely no success. He has all kinds of bizarre quirks/weird personality traits, but instead of fixing them he just plunges ahead and approaches another fifty HB10s. Don't be like him. Game is a holistic approach to your life, not a way for you to beat your head against a wall.

Post: #407

" I got a painful rejection last night, and this feels just as painful even though I didn't even get 'rejected' (other than by myself!) "

Channel that feeling and use it to force you to approach. I promise you'll feel much better getting rejected than psyching yourself out and doing nothing.

Post: #408

Here in Scandinavia, day game availability and openess of the women depends a lot on the weather. I like to day game on the summer and get decent results, but it becomes harder and tyring to do it in then winter. I guess also depending on your age and how are you dressed will define the areas you can day game and so on. It si not as easy as some guys think, but when done properly the results are good.

Post: #409

Confused why some of you think this is the worst way to meet women. It seems the most “logical”: talking to women st grocery stores, coffee shops, clothing stores, or even the sidewalk. Whereas going out at night is a once or twice a week thing, and online game is very hit or miss. And social circle game seems like a lot of prep and also is a very narrow environment where your friends will come to learn of your dirty deeds and failed pursuits.

Post: #410

(10-01-2018 11:37 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  Never done daygame but respect to you guys who've got the balls to do it.
I was on the bus earlier and there were TWO absolute stunners (My idea of 9's)! Both about 17 years old (16 is legal here no matter how old you are).
I'm like 30 and I just couldnt bring myself to do it. Didn't have the balls to open either one on a packed bus where neither of us could escape. Plus they were earing ear buds. Tried to channel my inner TonyHustle but I couldn't do it lol. I feel like crap now though, if i'm honest!
I got a painful rejection last night, and this feels just as painful even though I didn't even get 'rejected' (other than by myself!)

Dude, you are literally describing the absolute hardest setting for daygaming. Even the pros recommend to go light and indirect in very a close environment where social "pressure" can be high. I can count the number of times I opened on public transport. If you want to start daygame my best tip is to go to parks. Stationary girls are the easiest to open.

Post: #411

(10-01-2018 03:00 AM)sethg Wrote:  Daygame is the best way to meet women.

Night and online game give you sluts.

Fully agree with this. However, it is not "game" it is just normal approach and talk.

Post: #412

(10-01-2018 11:55 AM)UUU Wrote:  ...I personally know a guy who has been daygaming nonstop for the past five years and has had absolutely no success. He has all kinds of bizarre quirks/weird personality traits, but instead of fixing them he just plunges ahead and approaches another fifty HB10s. Don't be like him. Game is a holistic approach to your life, not a way for you to beat your head against a wall.

I am not surprised. People who need to "game" are just actors. Some of them are good succesfull actors, some of them not.

The truely happy man is happy with himself and then simply approaches a woman, talkes to her and goes to the next step until he reaches his goal (which can be kissing, sex, girl friend, wedding, or whatever).

No "gaming". Dudes, be natural and cool and success will come to you. Work on you, don't believe in "games". Looool!

Post: #413

(10-02-2018 09:34 PM)Hombre Wrote:  Confused why some of you think this is the worst way to meet women. It seems the most “logical”: talking to women st grocery stores, coffee shops, clothing stores, or even the sidewalk.

Indeed, it is also for me the most logical way of meeting new people.

For example,
- I met my ex wife in a supermarket
- I met today's date yesterday on the street in front of a supermarket (she was waiting for taxi)
- I met my current "almost girl friend" last week on the street (other side of the street, she was walking)
- I met my last weeks "kissing and touching" girl in front of McDonalds (she was buying trash food during her break)
- I met my last weeks "sex girl" on the street, near my apartment (she was walking to the tram)

Nothing more easy and more logical than to talk to girls in everyday situations.

Post: #414

(10-01-2018 11:45 AM)zamfir112 Wrote:  Its the only way to meet women today. Requires a lot of balls.before you approach smile to the girl first .she if she smiles back then go talk to her, i do not recommend moving sets.

That's in theory. In practice I go to whatever girl I like and make her smile. That makes fun. Today's date was yesterday not smiling at all, waiting for taxi with ear plugs. I just approached her and talked to her.. Out of the blue. After today's meeting, she is already happy

Post: #415

(10-01-2018 11:37 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  Never done daygame but respect to you guys who've got the balls to do it.
I was on the bus earlier and there were TWO absolute stunners (My idea of 9's)! Both about 17 years old (16 is legal here no matter how old you are).
I'm like 30 and I just couldnt bring myself to do it. Didn't have the balls to open either one on a packed bus where neither of us could escape. Plus they were earing ear buds. Tried to channel my inner TonyHustle but I couldn't do it lol. I feel like crap now though, if i'm honest!
I got a painful rejection last night, and this feels just as painful even though I didn't even get 'rejected' (other than by myself!)

Nothing more easy than that. I had recently a similar situation in the metro. Made my way through the crowd to the girl I wanted to talk to. Stoped next to her and told her something like "Hi, you are so cute, I just HAD to come and say hello". Then we discussed and before I left the metro we exchanged numbers.

Rejections? What kind of rejections? Change your mindset and your whole way of thinking. There is no "game", there is no "success" or "rejection". It's just talking to people and being nice. Everything on top (e.g. getting a sincerely smile, a nice look, a date, etc is a bonus).

Post: #416

(10-03-2018 05:47 PM)Endless Escapes Wrote:  

(10-01-2018 11:37 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  Never done daygame but respect to you guys who've got the balls to do it.
I was on the bus earlier and there were TWO absolute stunners (My idea of 9's)! Both about 17 years old (16 is legal here no matter how old you are).
I'm like 30 and I just couldnt bring myself to do it. Didn't have the balls to open either one on a packed bus where neither of us could escape. Plus they were earing ear buds. Tried to channel my inner TonyHustle but I couldn't do it lol. I feel like crap now though, if i'm honest!
I got a painful rejection last night, and this feels just as painful even though I didn't even get 'rejected' (other than by myself!)

Nothing more easy than that. I had recently a similar situation in the metro. Made my way through the crowd to the girl I wanted to talk to. Stoped next to her and told her something like "Hi, you are so cute, I just HAD to come and say hello". Then we discussed and before I left the metro we exchanged numbers.

Rejections? What kind of rejections? Change your mindset and your whole way of thinking. There is no "game", there is no "success" or "rejection". It's just talking to people and being nice. Everything on top (e.g. getting a sincerely smile, a nice look, a date, etc is a bonus).

You mean the rejection the prior night?
Oh, I just opened some girl at a bar and asked her how her night was going and she looked at me like a weirdo and was like ''Do I know you?'' and I was like ''Not yet. I just thought i'd say hi'' and then she was like ''Yeah, you're not my type i'm afraid. But if you wanna do me a favour, you can get me that handsome barmans number!'' and pointed at the handsome dude behind the bar. I tried to play it off and maybe treat it like a shit-test and laughed and agreed that he was handsome and was like ''Yeah, i'd fuck him!'' and then carried on trying to talk, but she kind of put her palm near my face as if to 'dismiss' me so that she could better get the attention of the handsome dude without me distracting her. Then she called him over adn told him he was hot adn flirted outrageously without him doing anything. I bailed shortly after. Felt like crap lol.

I actually felt worse when someone told me that with good game, one should be able to pull EVERY girl he wants too. No excuses. ''Looks don't matter.'' It's all about game. Some people write in a way as to suggest that they have a 100% approach to lay rate and even though i'm convinced these are just oddballs lying on the internet, when people write like this, I naturally assume they must have teh life experience to back up their claims and then I desperately want to bring them out with me, have them wear an 'ugly mask' and watch them bang every hot girl they apparoach!

Post: #417

Nobody bangs 100% of the girls they approach, not even close. Even if they did who cares they're not you.

Gio (older dude who bangs college girls) says something like "if I approach 100 19 year olds at least one of them is getting fucked".

Don't let stats get you down just try to enjoy yourself and be self amused. If you're getting 1/10 girls to give you their number you're doing well. If 1/3 of those give up the ass you're doing great especially for a semi-beginner.

The whole looks vs game thing is played out. Not gonna get into it there's probably 10s of threads on it. Play with the hand youre dealt. Looksmax, get good at game, your efforts will get you what you want proportional to what you put in. Just like everything else in life

Post: #418

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Post: #419

Does anybody follow that daygamer Bradicus on YouTube? He's just posted his itinerary for the next few months. It includes Europe and America. He is permanently on the road it seems. My question is this - how do these semi-famous pro daygamers fund this lifestyle? Some of them haven't even released any books. Are they really making enough cash from social media affiliate programs and/or tutorship to afford this nomad lifestyle?

Sidenote: Bradicus's logo is "BS" and he really needs to change that.

Post: #420

(10-19-2018 01:15 PM)griffinmill Wrote:  Does anybody follow that daygamer Bradicus on YouTube? He's just posted his itinerary for the next few months. It includes Europe and America. He is permanently on the road it seems. My question is this - how do these semi-famous pro daygamers fund this lifestyle? Some of them haven't even released any books. Are they really making enough cash from social media affiliate programs and/or tutorship to afford this nomad lifestyle?

Sidenote: Bradicus's logo is "BS" and he really needs to change that.

Yeah I'm curious on this too. Not to be a hater but I have just as much game as most of these guys but I doubt I'd be able to generate the funds via pickup to fund this kind of lifestyle. Whenever I suggest I'm interested in working for them they aren't very interested either and that to me suggests that there isn't that much demand. Not sure!

Post: #421

I feel like day game would be more beneficial than night game. Girls think of the interaction as more romantic and special than night game. They associate it with destiny or something.

Post: #422

I have picked up the skill of daygame quite late (started with almost 35 to do it regularly, with a few stints before when I coincidentially met a well-known daygamer, and we winged), before that I couldnt bring myself to do it. Just too low self-esteem. With the help of alcohol I have been a good nightgamer from my mid.twenties onwards, but results got even better after 30 when I gave less and less of a shit what girls think.

In daygame I only have 2 lays to my name though, after more than 1000 approaches (some near misses as well) Whereas from nightgame I got laid 14 times this year alone already.
Just last week I had two dates, one was 19, the other a bit older (maybe 23, didnt ask). Converting the dates into lays is my struggling part. When they dont drink much like in nightlife.

Getting contacts is easy, I get 1/4 on longterm average.

But after all, the freedom to talk to any girl you want in any situation is still priceless.

Post: #423

(10-19-2018 03:50 PM)bigbadpua Wrote:  I have picked up the skill of daygame quite late (started with almost 35 to do it regularly, with a few stints before when I coincidentially met a well-known daygamer, and we winged), before that I couldnt bring myself to do it. Just too low self-esteem. With the help of alcohol I have been a good nightgamer from my mid.twenties onwards, but results got even better after 30 when I gave less and less of a shit what girls think.

In daygame I only have 2 lays to my name though, after more than 1000 approaches (some near misses as well) Whereas from nightgame I got laid 14 times this year alone already.
Just last week I had two dates, one was 19, the other a bit older (maybe 23, didnt ask). Converting the dates into lays is my struggling part. When they dont drink much like in nightlife.

Getting contacts is easy, I get 1/4 on longterm average.

But after all, the freedom to talk to any girl you want in any situation is still priceless.

Are these your batting averages in Latvia? Or are you talking about in the Anglosphere?

Post: #424

(10-19-2018 04:04 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  [quote='bigbadpua' pid='1871996' dateline='1539982216']
I have picked up the skill of daygame quite late (started with almost 35 to do it regularly, with a few stints before when I coincidentially met a well-known daygamer, and we winged), before that I couldnt bring myself to do it. Just too low self-esteem. With the help of alcohol I have been a good nightgamer from my mid.twenties onwards, but results got even better after 30 when I gave less and less of a shit what girls think.

In daygame I only have 2 lays to my name though, after more than 1000 approaches (some near misses as well) Whereas from nightgame I got laid 14 times this year alone already.
Just last week I had two dates, one was 19, the other a bit older (maybe 23, didnt ask). Converting the dates into lays is my struggling part. When they dont drink much like in nightlife.

Getting contacts is easy, I get 1/4 on longterm average.

But after all, the freedom to talk to any girl you want in any situation is still priceless.

Are these your batting averages in Latvia? Or are you talking about in the Anglosphere?
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In Latvia, yes. Not the best place for daygame I assume.

Post: #425

To answer the original question OP presented - "Is daygame the worst way to meet women?", I'll give my take on it:

I think it's a very inefficient way to meet/bang women

I'm going to get shit for saying that (because this is a game forum) but after making more than 500+ approaches, thats the conclusion I came to.

But this relates to my specific life.

Let me explain:

I work a corporate job 10 hours a day, am starting a side business, learning 2 languages, and have many, many other side projects I am working on. For me, time is a huge factor. And going out and getting ready and daygaming is very time consuming. I also live in a city where people are not too open and are always in a hurry. Making dozens upon dozens of approaches, having meaningless conversations, then setting up dates (i.e. text game), then going on those dates, then more text game, then inviting her over just for a lay/bang doesn't seem all that worth it. Why not just night game and go straight for the bang that night? Or just secure a date through online game?

So my conclusion is that it's not worth it.

However, I can say that I have gained a lot of "inner game" through daygame. I have learned how to have impromptu conversation, learned how to approach, and most importantly, learned how to accept rejection. The number of times I have gotten rejected is unbelievable, but I am not numb to it. This ability to not fear rejections has helped me enormously in my life in so many ways.